Subject: Re: test
From: pjane pjane@--------
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 06:47:04 -0400 (EDT)
S. Ullerius wrote:
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>Salus et Fortuna, Slave Omnes!

no, no, we're not all slaves! ;)

Patricia Cassia





Subject: Re: test
From: Megas-Robinson amgunn@--------
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 07:22:08 -0700
Salus et Fortuna, Salve Patricia Cassis

S.Ullerius, at your service:

We share a descriptor, my non-Roman, modern era middle name is Patrick,
from my father's Irish background I suppose.

pjane wrote:
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> From: p-------- p--------@--------
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> S. Ullerius wrote:
> >
> >Salus et Fortuna, Slave Omnes!<<Mea Culpa ;{0 OBESE DIGITS & Late-Night
digital gymnastics >>
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> no, no, we're not all slaves! ;)
>
> Patricia Cassia
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Subject: Re: test
From: Megas-Robinson amgunn@--------
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 07:40:05 -0700
Salus at Fortuns, Salve Ericus,

My beloved grandfather is a D'Orazio from a small village in Molise
province. The nearest large town is Campo-Basso. I'm going on a
conversation I had with my mother about the results of my uncle's
geneological survey of the D'Orazio name and origins.

She also said he found a report of a tomb of a possible ancestor amongst
the ruins of a legionary retiree settlement on the Mediterranean coast
of Hispania. It appears that my esteemed ancestor was a soldier by the
name of M(arcus?) Horatius, who lived in the latter half of the first
century BCE. Apparently, one of his grandsons travelled back to the
Abbruzi-Molise region, and the generations went on from there.

I would like to state for the record, I haven't seen the documents my
uncle possesses, we live 3000 miles apart, and he keeps tenuous contact
with the family. I am informed that he is recently reconciled with my
grandfather, so I may yet obtain copies. I shall post the evidence if I
do.

As for caretaking, I've been told that the tomb is a bone depository in
a cave on the family lands and Papa D'Orazio has a vague memory of
attending a memorial service there just before his father moved their
part of the family to America before World War I. He was 4 or 5 at the
time.

May All the Holy Ones send Thee and Thine Blessings,

S. Ullerius Venator, Citizen

Ricci wrote:
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> From: R-------- razenna@--------
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> I think I read it in the archives of this listmonstermom. Your gda is
> from Italia and took care of the old tombs. Right? Where in Italia? I
> wonder if it is near my ancestral village.
>
> Ericius
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Subject: Re: topic
From: Megas-Robinson amgunn@--------
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 07:54:51 -0700
Salus et Fortuna, Salve Oebalus;

For a good overview of these philosophies, and Skepticism, look to a
college or better-level non-academic bookstore near you. I have, from a
philosophy course, the textbook series "Readings in the History of
Philosophy" which give a good overview of various disciplines through
the words of the originators or students thereof. the volume of
immediate attention woulb be "Greek and Roman Philosophy after
Aristotle" edited by Jason L. Saunders. The edition I have was
published by the Free Press (div. MacMillan Publishing Co., NY), the 9th
printing of the 1966 edition.

Blessings of the Holy Ones to Thee and Thine,

S. Ullerius

Oeb--------@-------- wrote:
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> From: Oeb--------@--------
>
> In a message dated 98-07-31 22:56:26 EDT, you write:
>
> << From: "Flavius Vedius Germa--------s" germa--------s@-------- >
> I must confess, I've been interested in the differences between Stoicism and
> Epicurianism. I am far from an expert. Anyone able to give a clear and
> simple breakdown of the differences?
>
> Germanicus >>
>
> The first step for someone like me who is new to Nova Roma, is to read Roman
> authors who subscribed to these philosophies. A few titles would be greatly
> appreciated.
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Subject: Re: topic
From: SDmtwi@--------
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 17:30:38 EDT
> The first step for someone like me who is new to Nova Roma, is to read Roman
> authors who subscribed to these philosophies. A few titles would be greatly
> appreciated.

Salve,

For stoicism at least, I'd strongly recommend reading Epictetes and
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus. The more important works of these authors (along
with a huge colleciton of other classical writings) can be found on-line at
the Internet Classics Archive. I don't remember the URL offhand, but any
search engine will get you there with ease.
If you want a more physical source of reading material, Penguin Books
has a whole series of excellent translations of classical works.

Vale,
T. Labienus Fortunatus