| Subject: |
Contitution Vote and Voting in General |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" germanicus@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:44:03 -0400 |
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Salvete Omnes!
It is with great pleasure (and not a little relief) that I hereby announce
the recent changes to the Constitution approved by the Comitia Centuriata
have been ratified by the Senate this day. The full and updated version of
the Constitution will be posted on the web site tonight or tomorrow.
I'd also like to bring up two issues that this last vote brought up. The
first is the issue of multiple issues per vote. Several people expressed
displeasure with the fact that there were so many individual changes in a
single bill. Constitutionally, there is nothing to prevent this, and I think
it would be a mistake to mandate "one-issue-one-vote". I can easily foresee
circumstances when it would be clearly appropriate to have more than one
issue in a single bill (for example, two issues that are closely linked).
I will, however, agree that this time around there were too many, and too
disparate issues in a single bill. I personally won't be making that
particular mistake again.
The other issue is the length of time allocated for the vote. Originally I
had wanted to time things so that the newsletter would come out with the
vote, and people who are without email would have time to vote. Looking over
the situation, however, I think that the number of people without email is
so small (one or two at present), that it would be possible to send them a
letter explaining what was being voted upon, or a phone call to read the
bill, and then allow them to vote via snailmail.
Given that, I think the next votes that come up (which will be very soon,
just to correct one or two last little niggling things, such as that
more-trouble-than-it's-worth month name) will have a MUCH faster turnaround
time. No need to have a two-week voting period.
Let me ask an opinion of everyone, though; when it comes time to vote for
Magistrates at the end of the year, do you think it would be appropriate to
send out a voter guide via snailmail and only accept votes via snailmail?
Give people a lot of time to mull over their decisions, allow candidates to
campaign, etc.? The exact mechanism isn't spelled out anywhere, and
elections are going to be upon us before you know it!
Living and learning,
Flavius Vedius Germanicus, Consul
"The Roman Republic is Reborn!"
Nova Roma
Post Office Box 1688
Morristown, NJ 07962
<a href="http://www.novaroma.org" target="_top" >http://www.novaroma.org</a>
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| Subject: |
Re: Contitution Vote and Voting in General |
| From: |
pythia kingan@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 04 Aug 1998 14:47:52 +0000 |
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Flavius Vedius Germanicus wrote:
> send out a voter guide via snailmail and only accept votes via snailmail?
> Give people a lot of time to mull over their decisions, allow candidates to
> campaign, etc.? The exact mechanism isn't spelled out anywhere, and
> elections are going to be upon us before you know it!
Ave Vedius!
I think the snail mail idea is very good for one particular reason.(And it is
typically Apollonian;-). Although I am not a stickler for protocol, I do feel a
formal guide and the fact that people would have to "hand" vote, would give the
election more dignity. It may be more of a pain, and perhaps some will not vote,
but if we are serious, that we should be able to take the extra time.
All the best,
Pythia
>
>
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| Subject: |
Roman Days? |
| From: |
pjane pjane@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:42:27 -0400 (EDT) |
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Wasn't there talk of another Roman Days or similar event in Maryland next
month? Anyone got details?
Patricia Cassia
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| Subject: |
Re: Contitution Vote and Voting in General |
| From: |
pjane pjane@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:42:35 -0400 (EDT) |
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>Let me ask an opinion of everyone, though; when it comes time to vote for
>Magistrates at the end of the year, do you think it would be appropriate to
>send out a voter guide via snailmail and only accept votes via snailmail?
No, I'd much rather allow online voting.
Patricia Cassia
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| Subject: |
Re: Roman Days? |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" germanicus@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 4 Aug 1998 15:18:16 -0400 |
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There is, but it's not a Roman event per se. It's a combined reenactment
event for all sorts of periods. The Roman contingent will be relatively
tiny; I certainly don't think it'd be worth the drive, but I would certainly
hope that our Citizens down there would have a supply of flyers on hand, if
they're going to be attending anyway...
Germanicus
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
> Subject: [novaroma] Roman Days?
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> From: p-------- p--------@--------
>
> Wasn't there talk of another Roman Days or similar event in
> Maryland next
> month? Anyone got details?
>
> Patricia Cassia
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: Roman Days? |
| From: |
pjane pjane@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 4 Aug 1998 15:11:13 -0400 (EDT) |
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>From: "Flavius Vedius Germa--------s" germa--------s@--------
>
>There is, but it's not a Roman event per se. It's a combined reenactment
>event for all sorts of periods. The Roman contingent will be relatively
>tiny; I certainly don't think it'd be worth the drive, but I would certainly
>hope that our Citizens down there would have a supply of flyers on hand, if
>they're going to be attending anyway...
When is it? I'm inquiring because some of our Pagan members might be
interested in going if they can combine it with the Mystic District
festival (I love that name), which is Sept. 11-12.
Patricia Cassia
"Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it."
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| Subject: |
Re: Contitution Vote and Voting in General |
| From: |
Anita Megas amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 04 Aug 1998 16:20:41 -0700 |
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S. Ullerius Venator rescribes:
Salus et Fortuna Omnes!
Having voted in the affirmative, I applaud the Senate confirming the
will of the People of Nova Roma.
As to multiple issues voting. I would support seeing a ballot on a
single issue or not more than 5 or six closely related items. 17 was a
bit much, even for someone like myself who has been involved in the
State and Politics of the SCA's imaginary micronation. But, with a
little work and thought on my part I soldiered on through it just fine.
Your admission in regards to the last ballot shows wisdom.
Your comprimise position on informing those with temporal rather than
ethereal communication methods looks fine to me.
My personal opinion is that a fortnight is a good period of time for
deliberate thought. Too short a time may appear that the Consuls and
Senate are trying to cut off commentary from the Patricians and Plebians
who are not at the center of things.
If the majority of Citizens have ethereal means of communication, I
think that the State can save expenditure of monies by using temporal
means only for those citizens who are firmly fixed in the temporal
world. Although, the voting period must take into account the time lag
for the slowest means of communication that Nova Romans utilize.
I do think that voting for Magistrates should take place by temporal
means. This way each citizen can be identified by a previously
submitted sigil. We don't want to repeat the excitement of the
Ancestors elections. But, by all means do engrave a deadline in our law
of the Twelve Tables.
I am a Citizen from north of Germania. I come from a village which had
monthly town meetings, and sent representatives to the yearly district
assembly, I find discourse on important matters to be a great
responsibility of the Citizenry, both Patrician and Plebian.
May the Gods favor All Citizens, Friends and Allies,
S. Ullerius Venator
aka
Steven Ullrsson, an Asatruar
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| Subject: |
Re: Contitution Vote and Voting in General |
| From: |
"Mike" vergil@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 4 Aug 1998 18:18:25 -0400 |
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>Flavius Vedius Germanicus wrote:
>
>> send out a voter guide via snailmail and only accept votes via snailmail?
>> Give people a lot of time to mull over their decisions, allow candidates
to
>> campaign, etc.? The exact mechanism isn't spelled out anywhere, and
>> elections are going to be upon us before you know it!
>
>Ave Vedius!
>
>I think the snail mail idea is very good for one particular reason.(And it
is
>typically Apollonian;-). Although I am not a stickler for protocol, I do
feel a
>formal guide and the fact that people would have to "hand" vote, would
give the
>election more dignity. It may be more of a pain, and perhaps some will not
vote,
>but if we are serious, that we should be able to take the extra time.
>All the best,Pythia
>
Salvete
This is a very good idea! Sending in a postcard with your vote on it
should be the least does to vote.
Vale L Equitius Cincinnatus
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| Subject: |
Re: Roman Days? |
| From: |
"Mike" vergil@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 4 Aug 1998 18:31:46 -0400 |
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>There is, but it's not a Roman event per se. It's a combined reenactment
>event for all sorts of periods. The Roman contingent will be relatively
>tiny; I certainly don't think it'd be worth the drive, but I would
certainly
>hope that our Citizens down there would have a supply of flyers on hand, if
>they're going to be attending anyway...Germanicus
>> Wasn't there talk of another Roman Days or similar event in
>> Maryland next
>> month? Anyone got details? Patricia Cassia
>>
Salvete
LegioXX (Maryland) is camping out at Marietta Mansion on the weekend of
Sept. 26-27. There will be a 14th century group there as well. So this is
not a BIG event but should be just a good as Roman days as we have been at
this date/site for a number of years. I would think that anyone doing a
Roman theme would be welcome. If anyone wants to come up/down/out let me
know so we can get things planed.
Valete L Equitius Cincinnatus, Praetor
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| Subject: |
Re: Contitution Vote and Voting in General |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 04 Aug 1998 21:07:29 -0400 |
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pythia wrote:
>
> From: pythia kingan@--------
>
> Flavius Vedius Germanicus wrote:
>
> > send out a voter guide via snailmail and only accept votes via snailmail?
> > Give people a lot of time to mull over their decisions, allow candidates to
> > campaign, etc.? The exact mechanism isn't spelled out anywhere, and
> > elections are going to be upon us before you know it!
>
> Ave Vedius!
>
> I think the snail mail idea is very good for one particular reason.(And it is
> typically Apollonian;-). Although I am not a stickler for protocol, I do feel
a
> formal guide and the fact that people would have to "hand" vote, would give
the
> election more dignity. It may be more of a pain, and perhaps some will not
vote,
> but if we are serious, that we should be able to take the extra time.
>
I agree with Pythia. Not only does it seem more dignified, but there's
something very definitive about mailing it in. And, too...the deadline
is the deadline.
Also, I'll get to use my Roman signet ring which I just happen to have
gotten from Imperium...
F. Claudia
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| Subject: |
Re: Contitution Vote and Voting in General |
| From: |
Ricci razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 04 Aug 1998 18:15:47 -0700 |
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My take, and thoughts, during the current moment, is that while the idea
of a voters' handbook for the magistrates election is that it is a nice
idea.
Some problems come from the postage costs. Added to the cost
of an ounce or two of pages to almost One Hundred citizens is
the higher rate to the citizens that are outside the mundane
boundries of the USA. Those could cost a few bucks each to mail.
The enclosed postcard idea would not work for them, and would
just add weight to the overseas mailing.
A mixed approach might be necessary.
(If we want to get as many citizens voting as possible.)
*) Send out "the Word", via the net and word of mouth,
that the Magistrates' Elections are coming up.
And that Citizens should decide whether they want
a hardcopy of the Handbook in the mail, or on-line.
*) Have a Voters' Handbook on-line. Citizens who
will be satisfied with an on-line, have it.
*) Those who need it by snailmail are to let the Censors
know. There are citizens who are not on-line, so I have
heard, this will give them a way to vote. This will have
to involve an "official ballot postcard".
*) I don't know what to do (yet) with the non-wired outside
the US. Somebody will think of a reason before I get my
next email.
*) Perhaps the provincial governors can help the process,
in some way.
Okay. Enough on-line brainstorming.
I want to go to the Taverna.
bene vale
C. Aelius Ericius
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| Subject: |
Eagle |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 04 Aug 1998 21:16:06 -0400 |
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Deadline for The Eagle submissions is Friday.
Get those magic fingers on the keyboards. E-mail your stuff in Text Only
or MSWord to m--------on@--------
And if you don't have a subscription, you're going to miss some nice
articles, nifty graphics, plus a funny Roman joke from one of our
brilliant but obviously twisted Latin scholars.
F. Claudia
"Let those who don't want none have memories of not gettin' any."
-- Brother Dave Gardner
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| Subject: |
Nova Roman Priesthoods |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" germanicus@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 4 Aug 1998 21:20:34 -0400 |
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Salve!
I am writing to you because the time has come to finally pursue one of the
central activities for which Nova Roma was originally conceived; the
restoration and practice of the public rites of the Religio Romana.
At this time the Senate is going to begin the process of filling the various
priestly offices, as outlined in our Constitution and on the official Nova
Roma web site (although the details of those are subject to some change once
the Pontifices are elected, I expect that the basic structure will remain
the same).
If you would like to put yourself in consideration for one or more of the
priestly offices, I would invite you to let the various members of the
Senate know. Send any appropriate background information on yourself,
including what you feel your qualifications are, what you would plan to do
in the position, and of course what position(s) you would be interested in,
to se---------------- While --------veryo--------y be selected, everyo--------
welcome to apply.
Understand that, especially at this early stage, all of these offices can be
considered as "training positions". One of the chief duties of all our
priests will be to research the duties, rites, and other aspects attendent
to their office. Don't feel put off by the fact that you might not be as
knowledgeable as some people; as long as you're willing to do the research
and learn, you should at least give it a try.
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email me at
germa--------@--------
Vale,
Flavius Vedius Germanicus, Consul
"The Roman Republic is Reborn!"
Nova Roma
Post Office Box 1688
Morristown, NJ 07962
www.novaroma.org
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| Subject: |
Sandals for the Fashionable Roman |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 4 Aug 1998 21:25:12 EDT |
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it...a Sandal in Gladiator design.
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size too big, I'm returning them for an exchange in a size 12 (hey...no dirty
comments about big feet!)
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--Dexippus
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