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Re: What's with the list? |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 7 Aug 1998 00:07:32 EDT |
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In a message dated 98-08-06 20:34:27 EDT, you write:
<< I wonder sometimes myself if the mail list is down, especially when I
don't
see anything from Dexi :^) >>
I'm here! Just working over time so I can pay for my International Male
expenditures!
--Dexippus
"My boss is a goat-footed sex fiend!"
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| Subject: |
Voting Duration |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" germanicus@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:34:19 -0400 |
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Salve!
While we are talking about the upcoming magisterial elections in December, I
thought I'd also ask if folks had any thoughts on the duration of the
smaller votes that are called throughout the year. Recently, these have been
changes to the constitution, but they could also be laws presented to one of
the assemblies. I think we've pretty well determined that we don't need
fifteen days for an email-capable vote, and I think that, at least for these
sorts of votes, email voting should be sufficient (with allowances for our
one or two non-email-capable Citizens, of course).
Do you think that five days would be good for such votes? Three? I don't
think I'd want to make it any shorter than that; not everyone checks their
email thirty times a day like I do...
Any thoughts?
Vale,
Germanicus
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| Subject: |
Re: Voting Duration |
| From: |
Claudia Aprica quinta_claudia_lucentia_aprica@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:28:19 -0700 (PDT) |
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Salvete!
Personally, I think more like about seven days should be allowed
for voting, so that people have a few days to find the mail, plus a
little time to think as well. I don't think people should be made to
feel rushed when voting for things, even if they're only relatively
small matters, and I imagine most people wouldn't want to reply
straight away to a voting message, but would prefer to have a chance
to print it out, read it through properly and sleep on it first.
Valete,
Aprica.
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| Subject: |
Re: Voting Duration |
| From: |
legion6@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:27:15 -0500 (CDT) |
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Salve, Magister:
I do not believe the time given for voting should be any less than an
eight-day (one market-interval). I have recently seen some votes
flying past me at supersonic speeds, touching down in my Inbox just
long enough to refuel and then continuing on their relentless
migration...the term 'railroading' comes to mind, except that the via
ferrea is not nearly as fast as these votes!
It's not just the technology that should be the deciding factor. Some
of us may actually want to think before we act; giving every vote at
least a market-interval (maybe two for the big ones) allows us time to
consider, discourages shoot-from-the-hip responses, and is more
forgiving towards those who check their e-mail weekly at best or must
rely on the Imperial Post.
We Romans think on a millennial scale, and build for the ages. (I
personally have difficulty registering any interval of time shorter
than a quarter-hour--just ask my boss!) A market-interval for voting
means there can be at least one public discussion on the subject (maybe
in that nundina's Chat session?). Three days, or five, smacks of
modern everything-in-a-hurryism--not an aspect of 20th-century life I
am willing to concede to unless extremely hard-pressed, saepes tu?
Gratias tibi ago for giving this your time and consideration...
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| Subject: |
Re: Voting Duration |
| From: |
dean6886@--------) |
| Date: |
Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:41:29 -0500 (CDT) |
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How about 10 days- allows time for even some people on vacation or
whatever and allows sufficient time to "sleep on it" and formulate
debate- some issues may not be so simple in the future.
Gaius Drusus Domitianus
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| Subject: |
Re: Voting Duration |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" germanicus@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:40:36 -0400 |
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Salve,
> I do not believe the time given for voting should be any less than an
> eight-day (one market-interval). I have recently seen some votes
> flying past me at supersonic speeds, touching down in my Inbox just
> long enough to refuel and then continuing on their relentless
> migration...the term 'railroading' comes to mind, except that the via
> ferrea is not nearly as fast as these votes!
I must confess I'm a little confused by this. We've had a grand total of two
votes in the Comitia Centuriata so far. Each lasted for about two weeks (the
most recent was called on 7/17 and lasted until 8/1).
May I ask which votes you feel have been "railroaded"?
If two weeks is railroading, then your eight-day suggestion is a
bullet-train!
Vale,
Germanicus
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| Subject: |
Re: Voting Duration |
| From: |
Masterofhistory masterofhistory@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:03:28 -0700 (PDT) |
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Amici,
I support the longer voting interval, be it a market period or a bit
more or less. This has many advantages and little disadvantages, as I
see it. With such a time frame nobody will feel pressured, those away
from their computers for a few days for whatever reason, will have
sufficient time to vote. A longer interval also gives citizens more
time to discuss the issues in the forum or taverna, which was one of
the functions of those places anyway. Though it has not occurred,
this longer interval would prevent the "railroading" effect. Another
added bonus for a 7-10 day period might be a higher voter turnout.
Avidius Tullius Qf Callidus, Praedans
Paterfamilias, Gens Tullia
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| Subject: |
Re: Voting Duration |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 07 Aug 1998 18:23:38 -0700 |
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Salus et Fortuna Omnes, Salve!
Announce the issue on the Kalends.
Votes to be tallied on the Ides.
Vale,
S. Ullerius Venator
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| Subject: |
Re: What's with the list? |
| From: |
Ricci razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 07 Aug 1998 17:28:48 -0700 |
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Dexippus@--------
>
> "My boss is a goat-footed sex fiend!"
>
>
So that's where that guy moved to!
Ericius
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| Subject: |
Re: Voting Duration |
| From: |
Ricci razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 07 Aug 1998 17:49:07 -0700 |
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Salvete!
I tend to agree with the way Vedius ran the two issue votes so far.
There was a (circa) two week period from when the matter was put to the
voters and the deadline. This was a good time period. Time to do some
deep thinking (even if there is a minor issue), and time for jawing it
over. Time to get worked up and cool down again before the vote is
due. I think shortening the time to a Nundinae would be okay. Not that
much shorter and another step in getting the feel of the ancient time
scales. Two Nundinae would be sixteen (16) days, if that was thought a
way to go it would only be two (2) days longer than the two weeks that
we have been using. [twice!]
On really small issues, ones that are so obvious that even three
anarchists would agree on what to do, we could try a short-short
period. The only problem is that there are some folks that just Do Not
check their mail all that often. If i don't check the machine is either
sick, both uxor and I are sick or I've emigrated and the new isp ain't
set up yet.
[Warning! Rambling Mode has activated. Conclude Message.]
I guess that is all for now.
Valete Quirtites!
Caius Aelius Ericius
Proconsul California Provincia
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