| Subject: |
Something to ponder.... |
| From: |
Claudia Aprica quinta_claudia_lucentia_aprica@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:57:33 -0700 (PDT) |
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Salvete, omnes!
The Caribbean island of Nevis is currently voting on whether or
not to become independent from the neighbouring island of St. Kitts.
If it does so, it will become one of the smallest Macronations in the
world, with a population of 9,000.
Now I could be off into dreamland here, but I do wonder, at the
current rate of growth, whether a population size like that isn't
within the capabilities of Nova Roma. If we acheived it, would we be
one of the biggest Micronations in the world, or, by that stage, would
the UN have got around to recognising us, making us one of the
smallest Macronations?
And, just say we _do_ achieve a citizenship of that size, what say
we all have a whip-round and buy an island, so we have some territory
too?
Vale from Cloudcuckooland!
Aprica
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| Subject: |
Re: Official Languages |
| From: |
Oplontian@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:43:12 EDT |
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Salvete,
After reviewing the recent discussions about the proposed official language
law I have come to the conclusion that the proposal, in its present form, is
not acceptable. It should be voted down or withdrawn. The phrasing of the
proposal is just too ambiguous. I would prefer that our leaders present us
with something like this:
"The language of record for all official Nova Roma business shall be English,
with a Latin translation provided when possible and practical. Translations
into other languages may also be provided." If our leaders really want to
challenge the citizens (and themselves) this provision could be added:
"Beginning in the year 2756 A.U.C.. Latin shall become a required language of
record for all official Nova Roma business, in addition to English." That
should satisfy the Latinists among us, and would give us all an incentive to
become better acquainted with Latin.
To our esteemed Praetor L. Equitius - I like your idea of an official
language, but I think that it needs a little more precision in its written
expression.
Valete,
Quintus Poppaeus Sabinus
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| Subject: |
Re: Something to ponder.... |
| From: |
Ricci razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:06:28 -0700 |
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Claudia Aprica wrote:
> Salvete, omnes!
> The Caribbean island of Nevis is currently voting on whether or
> not to become independent from the neighbouring island of St. Kitts.
> If it does so, it will become one of the smallest Macronations in the
> world, with a population of 9,000.
> Now I could be off into dreamland here, but ...
*Snip*
> And, just say we _do_ achieve a citizenship of that size, what say
> we all have a whip-round and buy an island, so we have some territory
> too?
> Vale from Cloudcuckooland!
> Aprica
If this comes to pass I shall throw the entire wieght of my gens behind
your candidature as first Consul of Claudcuckooland!
Caius Aelius Ericius.
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| Subject: |
In Dreamland? |
| From: |
AstUsari@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:37:52 EDT |
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How significant is our micronation, or any other micronation? Or, perhaps a
better question would be, 'why should any macronation take a micronation, such
as Nova Roma, seriously?'
The question is important, because it touches on the question of what
purpose states and governments serve. In a nutshell, the Aristotlean answer
is that the best state and the best government exist to do for it's citizens
that which they cannot do themselves.
Nova Roma cannot do much for it's citizens. It does not defend them
against forigen or national threats. It does not provide a saftey net should
our personal economic situations fall into jeapordy. It does not provide
roads, make safe our water-ways, etc. I think that most of us at least, if
not all, would agree that we are Americans, British, etc, first and foremost,
and Romans second.
So let us imagine for a momement that within a few years the Nova Roma
citizenry grew to an extent suffienct to afford the purchase of a small
island. What would be the purpose, other than having a place to erect a few
pillared marble temples? How many people in Nova Roma would actually desire
to move and live on the "New Rome" island? Would anyone here really wish to
leave behind the benefits of our American or other original citizenship? And
what if a few people did in fact go to live on the island? What would they
do, after the temples would be built? Pray in them? Perhaps grow some crops?
Would the effort be worth the majority of non-resident Nova Romans to support
these people?
The idea of a forum to serve as a "capital of Roman culture" is a pleasant
one. But really, how practical? Skeptic that I am, I am highly doubtful Nova
Roma can be anything other than what it is at present; a voluntary society of
people who are interested in and like Ancient Rome, and who, such as myself,
have a sort of sad wish that the old Empire would still exist.
Gaius Lupinius Festus
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| Subject: |
Re: In Dreamland? |
| From: |
dean6886@--------) |
| Date: |
Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:05:31 -0500 (CDT) |
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Actually, if there ever was such a thing quite a lot of purposes
could be served. Not only being the center of a revised Religio Romana
faith- acting as a sort of Roman pagan Vatican, it could also be a
working center of learning resources and a place to take up causes
around the world such as homelessness, poverty, envirementalism, or just
about anything else in life that people consider worthwhile. Even within
the confines of an established government, a landed Nova Roma could be
extremely productive and relatively autonomous. Dream- well of course,
but many, many years from now who knows.
Gaius Drusus Domitianus
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| Subject: |
Webmasters? |
| From: |
"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" germanicus@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:29:56 -0400 |
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Salvete!
I was wondering how many aspiring webmasters we have out there. If you're
someone who is knowledgeable about HTML, and dedicated to Nova Roma, please
co--------t me privately via email (germa--------s@--------). I have a project
in mind that will require the talents of one or two talented Nova Roman web
masters. (Frontpage 98 a plus!)
Vale,
Flavius Vedius Germanicus
"The Roman Republic is Reborn!"
Nova Roma
Post Office Box 1688
Morristown, NJ 07962
www.novaroma.org
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| Subject: |
Re: Something to ponder.... |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:09:18 -0400 |
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Claudia Aprica wrote:
>
> From: Claudia Aprica quinta_claudia_lucentia_aprica@--------
>
> Salvete, omnes!
> The Caribbean island of Nevis is currently voting on whether or
> not to become independent from the neighbouring island of St. Kitts.
> If it does so, it will become one of the smallest Macronations in the
> world, with a population of 9,000.
> Now I could be off into dreamland here, but I do wonder, at the
> current rate of growth, whether a population size like that isn't
> within the capabilities of Nova Roma. If we acheived it, would we be
> one of the biggest Micronations in the world, or, by that stage, would
> the UN have got around to recognising us, making us one of the
> smallest Macronations?
> And, just say we _do_ achieve a citizenship of that size, what say
> we all have a whip-round and buy an island, so we have some territory
> too?
> Vale from Cloudcuckooland!
> Aprica
>
Excellent idea. cousin!
But do you think the Queen would sell?
-- F. Claudia
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| Subject: |
Re: In Dreamland? |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:35:50 EDT |
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In a message dated 98-08-12 20:39:24 EDT, you write:
<< So let us imagine for a momement that within a few years the Nova Roma
citizenry grew to an extent suffienct to afford the purchase of a small
island. What would be the purpose, other than having a place to erect a few
pillared marble temples? How many people in Nova Roma would actually desire
to move and live on the "New Rome" island? Would anyone here really wish to
leave behind the benefits of our American or other original citizenship? >>
Well...it has happened before...a little piece of land we now call Israel!
Many Jews from all over the world flocked to live in the Holy Land when the
state of Israel declared itself in 1946 (I believe this was the date...I'm not
a historian).
<<<The idea of a forum to serve as a "capital of Roman culture" is a pleasant
one. But really, how practical? Skeptic that I am, I am highly doubtful Nova
Roma can be anything other than what it is at present; a voluntary society of
people who are interested in and like Ancient Rome, and who, such as myself,
have a sort of sad wish that the old Empire would still exist.>>>>
While I can respect your realism, I (the idealist that I am) would like to
think that someday...maybe not in this incarnation...there will be a small
island, or a piece of our present mainland, or perhaps in the eternal city
itself, that will call itself New Rome! Though I admit, I would prefer for
the entire world to re-awaken itself to the Classical World and it's ideals.
All cultures and all societies have an era of grandeur that they can strive to
return to. I relish the day when a tunic and a toga are back in style for
everyday wear!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Something to ponder.... |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:39:43 EDT |
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In a message dated 98-08-12 22:11:53 EDT, you write:
<< But do you think the Queen would sell? >>
Depends on which Queen you are asking! All I have is up for grabs! : )
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: In Dreamland? |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:38:35 EDT |
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In a message dated 98-08-12 21:05:38 EDT, you write:
<< Dream- well of course, but many, many years from now who knows.>>
'Tis true. How many of our realities today started out as dreams? I dare say
all!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: In Dreamland? |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:33:57 -0700 |
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dexippus@-------- Dexippus@--------
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 8:40 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: In Dreamland?
>From: Dexippus@--------
>
>In a message dated 98-08-12 20:39:24 EDT, you write:
>
><< So let us imagine for a momement that within a few years the Nova Roma
> citizenry grew to an extent suffienct to afford the purchase of a small
> island. What would be the purpose, other than having a place to erect a
few
> pillared marble temples? How many people in Nova Roma would actually
desire
> to move and live on the "New Rome" island? Would anyone here really wish
to
> leave behind the benefits of our American or other original citizenship?
>>
>
>Well...it has happened before...a little piece of land we now call Israel!
>Many Jews from all over the world flocked to live in the Holy Land when the
>state of Israel declared itself in 1946 (I believe this was the date...I'm
not
>a historian).
May 1948, being Jewish, that is an important date.
><<<The idea of a forum to serve as a "capital of Roman culture" is a
pleasant
>one. But really, how practical? Skeptic that I am, I am highly doubtful
Nova
>Roma can be anything other than what it is at present; a voluntary society
of
>people who are interested in and like Ancient Rome, and who, such as
myself,
>have a sort of sad wish that the old Empire would still exist.>>>>
>
>While I can respect your realism, I (the idealist that I am) would like to
>think that someday...maybe not in this incarnation...there will be a small
>island, or a piece of our present mainland, or perhaps in the eternal city
>itself, that will call itself New Rome! Though I admit, I would prefer for
>the entire world to re-awaken itself to the Classical World and it's
ideals.
>All cultures and all societies have an era of grandeur that they can strive
to
>return to. I relish the day when a tunic and a toga are back in style for
>everyday wear!
>
>--Dexippus
>
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