| Subject: | 
	 CHECK-UP | 
 
	| From: | 
	 michael marconi mdm8@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:33:41 -0400 | 
 
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Pay no heed to this messsage. I had problems with my email; just 
checking to see if it is running  smoothly. 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Resignation | 
 
	| From: | 
	 pjane pjane@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:30:51 -0400 (EDT) | 
 
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>From: Dexippus@-------- 
> 
>With Germanicus' resignation, is the mailing address in Morristown still 
>valid? 
 
He has generously offered to forward mail that arrives there, but we will 
be getting a new P.O. Box, probably tomorrow. Cassius or I will alert you. 
 
Patricia Cassia 
 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Fw: Roman Army | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Antonio M. R. C. Grilo" amg@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:54:27 +0100 | 
 
 | 
Salve Peter! 
 
Indeed you have greatly helped me. In fact my preferred period of military 
history research are the 3rd, 4th and 5th centuries AD, so we have a lot in 
common. 
As to Byzantium, wasn't it Christian from the beginning? With exception of 
Imperator Julianus, where does the polytheism fit? 
Do you belong to anything like Nova Roma for Byzantine restauration? Maybe 
there could be a protocol and mutual support. 
 
Vale! 
 
P.S. Lusitania is Portugal. After being conquered by the Visgoths, the 
Byzantines managed to reconquest our land (with the support of our 
profoundly romanized people) in the 6th century, and ruled in Lusitania 
until 622 or 623AD. 
 
 
Antonius Gryllus Graecus 
(Praetor ad Lusitaniam Provinciam) 
 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: PeterRAFTOS greeting@-------- 
To: amg <amg> 
Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 8:59 AM 
Subject: Roman Army 
 
 
Dear Antonius, 
 
I think you'll find the Roman army is well and living in a number of 
places around the world. I am not a Nova Roma citizen but applaud your 
efforts all the same. My great love is Hellenic Polytheism in its 
manifold expressions - the Religio Romana being one. As for my 
re-enactment interests I must confess to being a Byzantinist first and 
foremost. Here are some existing groups Nova Roma may want to recruit if 
they haven't already!! 
 
Legions 
Legio I Rapax (Germany) 
     Schlob Ratzenhofen, 
     84094 Elsendorf, 
     GERMANY 
 
Legio II Adiutrix (Hungary) 
     <a href="http://www.dunaweb.hu/gladiator" target="_top" >http://www.dunaweb.hu/gladiator</a> 
     Bathori utca 20, 2601 Vac HUNGARY 
 
Legio II Augusta (Auckland, NZ) 
     Matthew Mole, MatthewM@-------- 
 
Legio II Augusta (UK) 
     <a href="http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~nmcb3/groups/legiiavg.htm" target="_top" >http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~nmcb3/groups/legiiavg.htm</a> 
     61 Totland Road 
     Portsmouth, PO6 3HS 
     Tel: +44 (0)1705 369970 
 
Legio II Augusta (Portland, OR, USA) 
     <a href="http://inetarena.com/~primuspilus/" target="_top" >http://inetarena.com/~primuspilus/</a> 
     Dean Cunn--------am, pr--------p--------@-------- 
 
Legio II Parthica (Italy) 
     <a href="http://www.virtual-pc.com/orontes/severi/sevpage.htm" target="_top" >http://www.virtual-pc.com/orontes/severi/sevpage.htm</a> 
 
Legio III Cyrenaica (Memphis, TN, USA) 
     Richie Staggs, rstaggs@-------- 
 
Legio III Gallica (New Orleans, LA, USA) 
     <a href="http://members.aol.com/legiiigal/" target="_top" >http://members.aol.com/legiiigal/</a> 
     PO Box 50893 
     New Orleans, LA 70150-8093 USA 
     LEGIIIGAL@-------- 
 
Cohors VI Asturum/Legio VI Asturum 
     Paulstrabe 3, 51379 Leverkusen 
 
Legio VIII Augusta (Germany) 
     <a href="http://home.t-online.de/home/Bernd.Hummel/legiov~1.htm" target="_top" >http://home.t-online.de/home/Bernd.Hummel/legiov~1.htm</a> 
     Alexander Zimmermann, 
     Rosenstrasse 10, 72124 Pliezhausen 
     GERMANY 
     Tel: +49 (0)7127 80087; Fax: +49 (0)7127 70554 
     Bernd.Hummel@-------- 
 
Legio VIII Augusta M G V (Wales & North England) 
     <a href="http://homepage.virgin.net/robin.brown5/index.html" target="_top" >http://homepage.virgin.net/robin.brown5/index.html</a> 
     Robin Brown robin.brown5@-------- 
 
Legio VIII Augusta (UK) 
     Bron Berllan, 
     St. Asaph Road, 
     Trefnant, Benbighshire, LL16 5UD 
     Tel: +44 (0)1745 730373; Fax: +44 (0)1745 730590 
 
Legio VIIII Hispana (NSW & QLD, Australia) 
     <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3296" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3296</a> 
     W-------- Robinson, Lower Blue Mount-------- w--------r@-------- 
     Mark Kelly, Sydney ancient1@-------- 
     Se--------urkington, Upper Blue Mount-------- sturk@-------- 
 
Legio IX Hispan, (San Diego, CA, USA) 
     Website: <a href="http://members.home.net/cian/legioix.html" target="_top" >http://members.home.net/cian/legioix.html</a> 
     Monthly Bulletin: <a href="http://logomancy.simplenet.com/domus/legio" target="_top" >http://logomancy.simplenet.com/domus/legio</a> 
     S--------Richards, l--------s@-------- 
 
Legio IX Hispana (Queensland - Australia) 
     PO Box 300 Albert Street Brisbane 4002 QLD 
     Terry Fitzsimmons Phone:(07) 3211 1081 
 
Legio IX Hispana (TX, USA) 
     L. Marius Fimbria, legion6@-------- 
 
Legio X Gemina (NL) 
     <a href="http://www.huizen.dds.nl/~henk-jan" target="_top" >http://www.huizen.dds.nl/~henk-jan</a> 
     H.J.Vrielink 
     Rijndijkstraat 58 
     2313 NL 
     Leiden 
     TEL: +31 715132472 
 
Legio X Fretensis (Russia) 
     <a href="http://www.legxfret.da.ru" target="_top" >http://www.legxfret.da.ru</a> 
     1 Solidarnosti pr. build 2 
     193138, Saint-Petergsburg 
     Russia 
     yaroslav.fedorov@-------- 
     corvinvs@-------- 
     corvinvs@-------- 
 
Legio X Fretensis (Sacramento, CA, USA) 
     axtellj@-------- 
 
Legio X (New Orleans, LA, USA) 
     Darr--------un--------dnun---------------- 
 
Legio XI Claudia Pia Fedelis (Switzerland) 
     <a href="http://www.datacomm.ch/cueni/romevent.html" target="_top" >http://www.datacomm.ch/cueni/romevent.html</a> 
     Lukas Hanzi 
     Hegenheimerstrasse 261, 
     CH-4055 Basel SWITZERLAND 
 
COH I IT CR et LEG XIII GEM (Austria) 
     <a href="http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/updike/196/main_uc_v2.html" target="_top" >http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/updike/196/main_uc_v2.html</a> 
     Rene Langer, Optio of the LEG XIII GEM COH IX Pilus Prioris 
     - stationed at CARNUNTUM in the Provincia PANNONIA SUPERIOR 
     (near Vienna, Austria, Europe) 
     Rene_L--------r@-------- 
 
Legio XIIII Gemina Martia Victrix, (Germany) 
     Dan Peterson 
     222d BSB CMR 405 
     Box 1024 
     APO AE 09034 
     p--------sod@-------- 
 
Legio XIIII (UK) 
     <a href="http://www.legion-fourteen.com/romans.htm" target="_top" >http://www.legion-fourteen.com/romans.htm</a> 
     Marcvs Cassius, LEGIONXIIII@-------- 
     75 Birdie Way 
     Hertford 
     Hertfordshire 
     UK 
     SG13 7SY 
     Tel 01992 552223 (UK) 
     Tel +44 1992 552223 (International) 
     Tel 0411 251105 (Mobile) 
 
Vexillatio legionis geminae (UK) 
     <a href="http://web.ukonline.co.uk/secundus/xiiii/" target="_top" >http://web.ukonline.co.uk/secundus/xiiii/</a> 
     Mark Olejnik, suavis@-------- 
     A detachment of Legio XIIII Gemina Martia Victrix based at the Lunt 
fort near Coventry in England 
 
Legio XIV (UK) 
     Colchester Roman Society 
     Grahame Appleby 
     8 Crowhurst Court 
     Crowhurst Road 
     Colchester, UK 
     CO3 3JN 
 
Legio XIV Gemina Martia Victrix, (Canton, OH, USA) 
     819 39th St. NW Canton, Ohio 44709-2535 
     <a href="http://pages.sssnet.com/Qawnuq/legioxivgemina.htm" target="_top" >http://pages.sssnet.com/Qawnuq/legioxivgemina.htm</a> 
     Quintu--------ebelliu--------uintu--------.. 
 
Legio XV Apollinaris, (Austria) 
     Brandhof 33, A 4701 Bad Schallerbach 
 
Legio XV Apollinaris, (Norway) 
     <a href="http://url.uio.no/legxv/" target="_top" >http://url.uio.no/legxv/</a> 
     Stele Johansen staalej@-------- 
 
Legio XX Valeria Victrix (UK) 
     <a href="http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~nmcb3/groups/esguard.htm" target="_top" >http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~nmcb3/groups/esguard.htm</a> 
     The Ermine Street Guard, 
     Oakland Farm, 
     Dog Lane, 
     Crickley Hill, Witcombe, Gloucestershire, GL3 4UG 
     Tel:+44 (0)1452 862235; Fax: +44 (0)1452 862235 
 
Legio XX (MD, USA) 
     <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/3761/index.htm" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/3761/index.htm</a> 
     Matthew Amt 
     9416 Rhode Island Avenue 
     College Park, MD 20740 USA 
     Ph: + 1 301 345 0582 
     mamt@-------- 
 
LEG XXII Primigenia (Germany) 
     Hans Binsfeld, 
     Praelat-Benz-Strasse 15, 
     54634 Bitburg, Germany, Europe 
 
Legio XXII Primigenia (Cincinnati, OH, USA) 
     Craig Nordquist, 
     9525 Beech Drive 
     Cincinnati, OH 45231 
     deks@-------- 
 
Legio XXIV Americus (Media, PA, USA) 
     George Metz, GWMETZ@-------- 
 
Auxilia 
 
Cohors I Aquitanorum vet. Eq. (Germany) 
     Tillystrabe 21, 
     94431 Nurnberg GERMANY 
 
Cohors I Breucorum (Germany) 
     Schwemmfeld 15 85137 Walting GERMANY 
 
COH I IT CR et LEG XIII GEM (Austria) 
     <a href="http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/updike/196/main_uc_v2.html" target="_top" >http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/updike/196/main_uc_v2.html</a> 
     Rene L--------r, Rene_L--------r@-------- 
 
Cohors I Germanorum CR (Germany) 
     Insel 7, 
     38319 Remlingen GERMANY 
 
Cohors III Batavorum (and Punic Wars Re-enactment Society) (Australia) 
     56 Ropes Creeks Rd. 
     Old Mt. Druit NSW AUSTRALIA 
     W. (Toe) Johnston +61 2 9625 0394 
 
 
Cohors III Batavorum (NEW ZEALAND Auckland Garrison) 
     22A Simon ellis Street 
     Glenfield Auckland NEW ZEALAND 
     Andrew Sinclair Phone: 64 9 444 6408 Fax:- 
 
Cohors IIII Vindelicorum (Germany) 
     Lange Hecke 7, 
     63796 Kahl GERMANY 
 
Cohors VI Asturum/Legio VI Asturum (Germany) 
     Paulstrabe 3, 
     51379 Leverkusen GERMANY 
 
Cohors Quinta Gallorum (UK) 
     <a href="http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1jwh/quinta/" target="_top" >http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1jwh/quinta/</a> 
     Arbeia Roman Fort, Baring Street, 
     South Shields, 
     Tyne and Wear, NE33 2BB UK 
     Tel: +44 (0)191 4544093; Fax: +44 (0)191 4276862 
 
Gruppe Becker (Germany) 
     Schulstrabe 1, 
     35075 Gladenbach GERMANY 
 
Pedites Singulares (Germany) 
     Talstrabe 1, 
     86316 Friedberg GERMANY 
 
Milites Litoris Saxoni (UK) 
     82 London Road, 
     Faversham, Kent, ME13 8TA UK 
 
Cavalry 
 
Ala II Flavia (Germany) 
     <a href="http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/uni/ymu" target="_top" >http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/uni/ymu</a> 
     Schlob Ratzenhofen, 
     84094 Elsendorf GERMANY 
 
Praetorians 
 
VII Praetorian Cohort (Australia) 
     <a href="http://www.iinet.net.au/~bbrown/" target="_top" >http://www.iinet.net.au/~bbrown/</a> 
 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Busts of Nova Roman Consuls. | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Antonio M. R. C. Grilo" amg@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:58:16 +0100 | 
 
 | 
Salvete omnes! 
 
Would it be a good idea to keep a bust of every Consul of Nova Roma in the 
Website? 
 
Vale! 
 
Antonius Gryllus Graecus 
(Praetor ad Lusitaniam Provinciam) 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Fw: [novaroma] Fw: Roman Army | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Antonio M. R. C. Grilo" amg@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:15:50 +0100 | 
 
 | 
Here is the Roman army muster that Peter RAFTOS sent to me: 
 
>Legions 
>Legio I Rapax (Germany) 
>     Schlob Ratzenhofen, 
>     84094 Elsendorf, 
>     GERMANY 
> 
>Legio II Adiutrix (Hungary) 
>     <a href="http://www.dunaweb.hu/gladiator" target="_top" >http://www.dunaweb.hu/gladiator</a> 
>     Bathori utca 20, 2601 Vac HUNGARY 
> 
>Legio II Augusta (Auckland, NZ) 
>     Matthew Mole, MatthewM@-------- 
> 
>Legio II Augusta (UK) 
>     <a href="http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~nmcb3/groups/legiiavg.htm" target="_top" >http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~nmcb3/groups/legiiavg.htm</a> 
>     61 Totland Road 
>     Portsmouth, PO6 3HS 
>     Tel: +44 (0)1705 369970 
> 
>Legio II Augusta (Portland, OR, USA) 
>     <a href="http://inetarena.com/~primuspilus/" target="_top" >http://inetarena.com/~primuspilus/</a> 
>     Dean Cunn--------am, pr--------p--------@-------- 
> 
>Legio II Parthica (Italy) 
>     <a href="http://www.virtual-pc.com/orontes/severi/sevpage.htm" target="_top" >http://www.virtual-pc.com/orontes/severi/sevpage.htm</a> 
> 
>Legio III Cyrenaica (Memphis, TN, USA) 
>     Richie Staggs, rstaggs@-------- 
> 
>Legio III Gallica (New Orleans, LA, USA) 
>     <a href="http://members.aol.com/legiiigal/" target="_top" >http://members.aol.com/legiiigal/</a> 
>     PO Box 50893 
>     New Orleans, LA 70150-8093 USA 
>     LEGIIIGAL@-------- 
> 
>Cohors VI Asturum/Legio VI Asturum 
>     Paulstrabe 3, 51379 Leverkusen 
> 
>Legio VIII Augusta (Germany) 
>     <a href="http://home.t-online.de/home/Bernd.Hummel/legiov~1.htm" target="_top" >http://home.t-online.de/home/Bernd.Hummel/legiov~1.htm</a> 
>     Alexander Zimmermann, 
>     Rosenstrasse 10, 72124 Pliezhausen 
>     GERMANY 
>     Tel: +49 (0)7127 80087; Fax: +49 (0)7127 70554 
&g--------   Bernd.Hummel@--------
> 
>Legio VIII Augusta M G V (Wales & North England) 
>     <a href="http://homepage.virgin.net/robin.brown5/index.html" target="_top" >http://homepage.virgin.net/robin.brown5/index.html</a> 
>     Robin Brown robin.brown5@-------- 
> 
>Legio VIII Augusta (UK) 
>     Bron Berllan, 
>     St. Asaph Road, 
>     Trefnant, Benbighshire, LL16 5UD 
>     Tel: +44 (0)1745 730373; Fax: +44 (0)1745 730590 
> 
>Legio VIIII Hispana (NSW & QLD, Australia) 
>     <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3296" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3296</a> 
>     W-------- Robinson, Lower Blue Mount-------- w--------r@-------- 
>     Mark Kelly, Sydney ancient1@--------
>     Se--------urkington, Upper Blue Mount-------- sturk@-------- 
> 
>Legio IX Hispan, (San Diego, CA, USA) 
>     Website: <a href="http://members.home.net/cian/legioix.html" target="_top" >http://members.home.net/cian/legioix.html</a> 
>     Monthly Bulletin: <a href="http://logomancy.simplenet.com/domus/legio" target="_top" >http://logomancy.simplenet.com/domus/legio</a> 
>     S--------Richards, l--------s@-------- 
> 
>Legio IX Hispana (Queensland - Australia) 
>     PO Box 300 Albert Street Brisbane 4002 QLD 
>     Terry Fitzsimmons Phone:(07) 3211 1081 
> 
>Legio IX Hispana (TX, USA) 
>     L. Marius Fimbria, legion6@-------- 
> 
>Legio X Gemina (NL) 
>     <a href="http://www.huizen.dds.nl/~henk-jan" target="_top" >http://www.huizen.dds.nl/~henk-jan</a> 
>     H.J.Vrielink 
>     Rijndijkstraat 58 
>     2313 NL 
>     Leiden 
>     TEL: +31 715132472 
> 
>Legio X Fretensis (Russia) 
>     <a href="http://www.legxfret.da.ru" target="_top" >http://www.legxfret.da.ru</a> 
>     1 Solidarnosti pr. build 2 
>     193138, Saint-Petergsburg 
>     Russia 
>     yaroslav.fedorov@-------- 
>     corvinvs@-------- 
&--------    corvinvs@-------- 
> 
>Legio X Fretensis (Sacramento, CA, USA) 
>     axtellj@-------- 
> 
>Legio X (New Orleans, LA, USA) 
>     Darr--------un--------dnun---------------- 
> 
>Legio XI Claudia Pia Fedelis (Switzerland) 
>     <a href="http://www.datacomm.ch/cueni/romevent.html" target="_top" >http://www.datacomm.ch/cueni/romevent.html</a> 
>     Lukas Hanzi 
>     Hegenheimerstrasse 261, 
>     CH-4055 Basel SWITZERLAND 
> 
>COH I IT CR et LEG XIII GEM (Austria) 
>     <a href="http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/updike/196/main_uc_v2.html" target="_top" >http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/updike/196/main_uc_v2.html</a> 
>     Rene Langer, Optio of the LEG XIII GEM COH IX Pilus Prioris 
>     - stationed at CARNUNTUM in the Provincia PANNONIA SUPERIOR 
>     (near Vienna, Austria, Europe) 
>     Rene_L--------r@-------- 
> 
>Legio XIIII Gemina Martia Victrix, (Germany) 
>     Dan Peterson 
>     222d BSB CMR 405 
>     Box 1024 
>     APO AE 09034 
>     p--------sod@-------- 
> 
>Legio XIIII (UK) 
>     <a href="http://www.legion-fourteen.com/romans.htm" target="_top" >http://www.legion-fourteen.com/romans.htm</a> 
>     Marcvs Cassius, LEGIONXIIII@-------- 
>     75 Birdie Way 
>     Hertford 
>     Hertfordshire 
>     UK 
>     SG13 7SY 
>     Tel 01992 552223 (UK) 
>     Tel +44 1992 552223 (International) 
>     Tel 0411 251105 (Mobile) 
> 
>Vexillatio legionis geminae (UK) 
>     <a href="http://web.ukonline.co.uk/secundus/xiiii/" target="_top" >http://web.ukonline.co.uk/secundus/xiiii/</a> 
>     Mark Olejnik, suavis@--------
>     A detachment of Legio XIIII Gemina Martia Victrix based at the Lunt 
>fort near Coventry in England 
> 
>Legio XIV (UK) 
>     Colchester Roman Society 
>     Grahame Appleby 
>     8 Crowhurst Court 
>     Crowhurst Road 
>     Colchester, UK 
>     CO3 3JN 
> 
>Legio XIV Gemina Martia Victrix, (Canton, OH, USA) 
>     819 39th St. NW Canton, Ohio 44709-2535 
>     <a href="http://pages.sssnet.com/Qawnuq/legioxivgemina.htm" target="_top" >http://pages.sssnet.com/Qawnuq/legioxivgemina.htm</a> 
>     Quintu--------ebelliu--------uintu--------.. 
> 
>Legio XV Apollinaris, (Austria) 
>     Brandhof 33, A 4701 Bad Schallerbach 
> 
>Legio XV Apollinaris, (Norway) 
>     <a href="http://url.uio.no/legxv/" target="_top" >http://url.uio.no/legxv/</a> 
>     Stele Johansen staalej@-------- 
> 
>Legio XX Valeria Victrix (UK) 
>     <a href="http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~nmcb3/groups/esguard.htm" target="_top" >http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~nmcb3/groups/esguard.htm</a> 
>     The Ermine Street Guard, 
>     Oakland Farm, 
>     Dog Lane, 
>     Crickley Hill, Witcombe, Gloucestershire, GL3 4UG 
>     Tel:+44 (0)1452 862235; Fax: +44 (0)1452 862235 
> 
>Legio XX (MD, USA) 
>     <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/3761/index.htm" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/3761/index.htm</a> 
>     Matthew Amt 
>     9416 Rhode Island Avenue 
>     College Park, MD 20740 USA 
>     Ph: + 1 301 345 0582 
>     mamt@-------- 
> 
>LEG XXII Primigenia (Germany) 
>     Hans Binsfeld, 
>     Praelat-Benz-Strasse 15, 
>     54634 Bitburg, Germany, Europe 
> 
>Legio XXII Primigenia (Cincinnati, OH, USA) 
>     Craig Nordquist, 
>     9525 Beech Drive 
>     Cincinnati, OH 45231 
>     deks@-------- 
> 
>Legio XXIV Americus (Media, PA, USA) 
>     George Metz, GWMETZ@-------- 
> 
>Auxilia 
> 
>Cohors I Aquitanorum vet. Eq. (Germany) 
>     Tillystrabe 21, 
>     94431 Nurnberg GERMANY 
> 
>Cohors I Breucorum (Germany) 
>     Schwemmfeld 15 85137 Walting GERMANY 
> 
>COH I IT CR et LEG XIII GEM (Austria) 
>     <a href="http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/updike/196/main_uc_v2.html" target="_top" >http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/updike/196/main_uc_v2.html</a> 
>     Rene L--------r, Rene_L--------r@-------- 
> 
>Cohors I Germanorum CR (Germany) 
>     Insel 7, 
>     38319 Remlingen GERMANY 
> 
>Cohors III Batavorum (and Punic Wars Re-enactment Society) (Australia) 
>     56 Ropes Creeks Rd. 
>     Old Mt. Druit NSW AUSTRALIA 
>     W. (Toe) Johnston +61 2 9625 0394 
> 
> 
>Cohors III Batavorum (NEW ZEALAND Auckland Garrison) 
>     22A Simon ellis Street 
>     Glenfield Auckland NEW ZEALAND 
>     Andrew Sinclair Phone: 64 9 444 6408 Fax:- 
> 
>Cohors IIII Vindelicorum (Germany) 
>     Lange Hecke 7, 
>     63796 Kahl GERMANY 
> 
>Cohors VI Asturum/Legio VI Asturum (Germany) 
>     Paulstrabe 3, 
>     51379 Leverkusen GERMANY 
> 
>Cohors Quinta Gallorum (UK) 
>     <a href="http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1jwh/quinta/" target="_top" >http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1jwh/quinta/</a> 
>     Arbeia Roman Fort, Baring Street, 
>     South Shields, 
>     Tyne and Wear, NE33 2BB UK 
>     Tel: +44 (0)191 4544093; Fax: +44 (0)191 4276862 
> 
>Gruppe Becker (Germany) 
>     Schulstrabe 1, 
>     35075 Gladenbach GERMANY 
> 
>Pedites Singulares (Germany) 
>     Talstrabe 1, 
>     86316 Friedberg GERMANY 
> 
>Milites Litoris Saxoni (UK) 
>     82 London Road, 
>     Faversham, Kent, ME13 8TA UK 
> 
>Cavalry 
> 
>Ala II Flavia (Germany) 
>     <a href="http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/uni/ymu" target="_top" >http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/uni/ymu</a> 
>     Schlob Ratzenhofen, 
>     84094 Elsendorf GERMANY 
> 
>Praetorians 
> 
>VII Praetorian Cohort (Australia) 
>     <a href="http://www.iinet.net.au/~bbrown/" target="_top" >http://www.iinet.net.au/~bbrown/</a> 
 
 
Antonius Gryllus Graecus 
(Praetor ad Lusitaniam Provinciam) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Busts of Nova Roman Consuls. | 
 
	| From: | 
	 NovaRomaNH@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:34:41 EDT | 
 
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In a message dated 98-09-10 05:55:52 EDT, Antonius Gryllus Graecus writes: 
 
 >Salvete omnes! 
  
 >Would it be a good idea to keep a bust of every Consul of Nova Roma in the 
 Website? 
 
 
While I'd hate to reduce the overall artistic quality of the site with yet 
another photo of me, I *am* hoping that we'll be able to add a tasteful 
tribute to Germanicus once the site has been transferred completely. It would 
be a shame if his many contributions to Nova Roma were forgotten as everything 
progresses.  
 
Valete,  
 
Marcus Cassius Julianus 
Consul 
  
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 New Senatorial Appointment! :) | 
 
	| From: | 
	 NovaRomaNH@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:47:43 EDT | 
 
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Salvete, Omnes,  
 
I am more than pleased to make an official announcement to the Citizens on the 
list... Our Praetor Urbanus, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus, has been apponted to 
the position of Senator in Nova Roma! 
 
Senate has unanimously voted to appoint L. Equitius to fill the recent gap 
left by the departure of Flavius Vedius Germanicus. While Germanicus can in no 
way be "replaced", Equitius has done much to prove himself in his own right, 
and we're all enthusiastic about the new change! 
 
Congratulations, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus, Senator of Nova Roma! :) 
 
Valete,  
 
Marcus Cassius Julianus 
Consul 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Busts of Nova Roman Consuls. | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Lucius" vergil@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:18:59 -0400 | 
 
 | 
 
 
>From: "Antonio M. R. C. Grilo" amg@-------- 
> 
>Salvete omnes! 
> 
>Would it be a good idea to keep a bust of every Consul of Nova Roma in the 
>Website? 
> 
>Vale!Antonius Gryllus Graecus(Praetor ad Lusitaniam Provinciam) 
 
Salvete 
      Yes! This is a good idea. This should be after they have completed 
thier first turn. 
 Do we have a picture of Germanicus that could be used? Any other ideas? 
 
        Valete L Equitius 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Busts of Nova Roman Consuls. | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Lucius" vergil@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:27:29 -0400 | 
 
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>From: Nov------------------------ 
> >Salvete omnes! 
> 
> >Would it be a good idea to keep a bust of every Consul of Nova Roma in 
the 
> Website? 
> 
>While I'd hate to reduce the overall artistic quality of the site with yet 
>another photo of me, I *am* hoping that we'll be able to add a tasteful 
>tribute to Germanicus once the site has been transferred completely. It 
would 
>be a shame if his many contributions to Nova Roma were forgotten as 
everything 
>progresses. 
>Valete, Marcus Cassius Julianus,Consul 
 
.Salvete 
        Yes, I agree completely. As well, all Consuls should have thier 
Picture, Name and Dates of office. 
       Valete L Equitius Cincinnatus 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: New Senatorial Appointment! :) | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Antonio M. R. C. Grilo" amg@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:41:52 +0100 | 
 
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Salvete omnes! 
 
The Lusitania Provincia and its Praetor are glad with the decision of the 
Senate. I just hope that the second Consul is chosen quickly. 
 
Vale! 
 
Antonius Gryllus Graecus 
(Praetor ad Lusitaniam Provinciam) 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Nov------------------------ Nov------------------------ 
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> 
Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 2:48 PM 
Subject: [novaroma] New Senatorial Appointment! :) 
 
 
>From: Nov------------------------ 
> 
>Salvete, Omnes, 
> 
>I am more than pleased to make an official announcement to the Citizens on 
the 
>list... Our Praetor Urbanus, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus, has been apponted 
to 
>the position of Senator in Nova Roma! 
> 
>Senate has unanimously voted to appoint L. Equitius to fill the recent gap 
>left by the departure of Flavius Vedius Germanicus. While Germanicus can in 
no 
>way be "replaced", Equitius has done much to prove himself in his own 
right, 
>and we're all enthusiastic about the new change! 
> 
>Congratulations, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus, Senator of Nova Roma! :) 
> 
>Valete, 
> 
>Marcus Cassius Julianus 
>Consul 
> 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: New Senatorial Appointment! :) | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Lucius" vergil@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:46:00 -0400 | 
 
 | 
>Salvete, Omnes, 
> 
>I am more than pleased to make an official announcement to the Citizens >on 
the list... Our Praetor Urbanus, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus, has been 
>apponted to the position of Senator in Nova Roma! 
 
>Congratulations, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus, Senator of Nova Roma! :) 
 
>Valete, Marcus Cassius Julianus, Consul 
 
 
Salvete Quirites 
          I want to thank everyone for their blessings. I look forward to 
working with my sodales Senatori (fellow senators) to building our republic. 
Excelsior! 
          Valete Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus, Praetor Urbanus 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: New Senatorial Appointment! :) | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:36:03 -0700 | 
 
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Salus et Fortuna Omnes, Salvete! 
>  
> From: Nov------------------------ 
>  
> Salvete, Omnes, 
>  
> I am more than pleased to make an official announcement to the Citizens  
> on the list... Our Praetor Urbanus, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus, has  
> been apponted to the position of Senator in Nova Roma! 
>  
> Senate has unanimously voted to appoint L. Equitius to fill the recent 
> gap left by the departure of Flavius Vedius Germanicus. While 
> Germanicus can in no way be "replaced", Equitius has done much to prove  
> himself in his own right, and we're all enthusiastic about the new  
> change! 
>  
> Congratulations, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus, Senator of Nova Roma! :) 
>  
> Valete, 
>  
> Marcus Cassius Julianus 
> Consul 
>  
 
As Paterfamilias for Gens Ulleria and as a Citizen of Nova Roma, I would 
like to concur with the Senate being the Voice of the People and 
Republic of Nova Roma in these matters. 
 
Valete Germanicus! May the Gods smile on Thee and Thine wherever the 
Zephyrs may guide the path of your life's journey.  If it is in the 
stars that you return to Nova Roma one day, I hope that a place can be 
made for you in the Patrician Class once again.  There are men who are 
noble by accident of birthright, and there are men who are noble by 
virtue of the way they are.  In my short time of knowing you through 
correspondance, and in seeing the child of your heart and mind, you are 
the latter.  Be Well, Be Strong and Find That which you and yours need 
for Peace, Contentment and Prosperity in your lives. 
 
Salvete Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus!  Gens Ulleria will stand by you.  I 
believe that you shall prove an able successor.  May Virtue be your 
guide!  May Intellect be your strength!  May May Passion fuel your 
ambitions for the Republic! 
 
May the Blessings of the Holy Ones be continued for the Senate and 
People of Nova Roma! 
 
Sum Stephanus Ullerius Venator, Civis et Paterfamilias 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: New Senatorial Appointment! :) | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Lucius" vergil@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:06:59 -0400 | 
 
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>>Salvete Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus!  Gens Ulleria will stand by you.  I 
>believe that you shall prove an able successor.  May Virtue be your 
>guide!  May Intellect be your strength!  May May Passion fuel your 
>ambitions for the Republic! 
> 
>May the Blessings of the Holy Ones be continued for the Senate and 
>People of Nova Roma! 
> 
>Sum Stephanus Ullerius Venator, Civis et Paterfamilias 
> 
Salve et Avete 
        Mille gratius tibi ago. Semper Res Publica! 
     Valete L Equitius 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Fw: Roman Army | 
 
	| From: | 
	 SFP55@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:57:07 EDT | 
 
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In a message dated 98-09-10 05:52:07 EDT, you write: 
 
<< As to Byzantium, wasn't it Christian from the beginning? With exception of 
 Imperator Julianus, where does the polytheism fit? >> 
 
Salve! 
 
To the best of my knowledge, poly atheism was never a concern 
with the Empire.  The Pechenegs and other Foederatii brought 
their belief systems to the Army, but it never caught on with the 
populace.  Of course with the constant conflict with the Roman 
church, and the usual schism, heresies, iconic controversies, one 
can never say the Church was always steady 
 
About the Legiones List. 
I noticed that there are Legiones with the same number and 
cognomen in different provinces.  Shouldn't they have Seniores 
and Iuniores after their name?  Or does Rome make that 
distinction? 
 
Vale      
 Quintus Fabius Maximus 
Byzantine Scholar 
and Roman Historian. 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Busts of Nova Roman Consuls. | 
 
	| From: | 
	 pjane pjane@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:29:27 -0400 (EDT) | 
 
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>Would it be a good idea to keep a bust of every Consul of Nova Roma in the 
>Website? 
 
Hmmmm ... well, perhaps a photo? I don't think we can afford the marble! ;) 
 
Patricia Cassia 
 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Fw: Roman Army | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Antonio M. R. C. Grilo" amg@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:17:27 +0100 | 
 
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Salve Magister Fabius Maximus! 
 
> 
>About the Legiones List. 
>I noticed that there are Legiones with the same number and 
>cognomen in different provinces.  Shouldn't they have Seniores 
>and Iuniores after their name?  Or does Rome make that 
>distinction? 
> 
>Vale      
> Quintus Fabius Maximus 
>Byzantine Scholar 
>and Roman Historian. 
> 
 
 
I've noticed that too. The problem is that some of the units grow 
independently and do not belong to Nova Roma. That's one of the reasons I 
would like to establish a centralized organization for such units (of course 
with the consent of those re-enactment unit members). 
 
Vale! 
 
Antonius Gryllus Graecus 
(Praetor ad Lusitaniam Provinciam) 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Fw: Roman Army | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:38:21 -0700 | 
 
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Salus et Fortuna! 
> From: SFP55@-------- 
>  
> In a message dated 98-09-10 05:52:07 EDT, you write: 
>  
> << As to Byzantium, wasn't it Christian from the beginning? With 
> exception of Imperator Julianus, where does the polytheism fit? >> 
>  
{{Venator: Also a reference is made in a biography I have of Alexander 
the Great that he witnessed as a boy, the army of his father, Phillip of 
Macedonia, repulsed by the fortified city of Byzantium.  Unless 
Christianity predates the birth of its accepted founder, I don't think 
so.  Polytheism: a belief in many gods.}} 
> 
> Salve! 
>  
> To the best of my knowledge, poly atheism  
{{Venator:  you suggest here a non-beliefs in many gods.}} 
> was never a concern with the Empire.  The Pechenegs and other  
> Foederatii brought their belief systems to the Army, but it never  
> caught on with the populace.  Of course with the constant conflict with  
> the Roman church, and the usual schism, heresies, iconic controversies,  
> one can never say the Church was always steady. 
>  
{{Venator: IMNSHO, schisms, heresies and other such should never be the 
usual amongst people of good faith.  They arise from our all too human 
need for our own interpretation of things to be the "Way, the Truth and 
the Light."  We must try to keep in mind here in Nova Roma, the while 
the Religio Roma is THE Religion of the Stae, the variety of private 
Religious Practices honored by our Citizens can be a source of strebgth, 
if we continue our Courtesy and Respect for each other's consciences.}} 
> 
> About the Legiones List. 
> I noticed that there are Legiones with the same number and 
> cognomen in different provinces.  Shouldn't they have Seniores 
> and Iuniores after their name?  Or does Rome make that distinction? 
>  
> Vale 
 
If I am looking at the Legion List properly, the bulk of thses people 
are re-enactors unconnected with our (at present) ephemeral Nation.  
I've looked through the list of Legions from Roman times (in two books I 
own on Roman Armies), and there is no indication of senior and junior 
being appended.  The same names were reused, under different Consuls and 
Caesers, at various times and places in the Republic and Empire. 
 
Benedictus ex Divae Omnes! 
 
S. Ullerius Venator 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Roman Army | 
 
	| From: | 
	 legion6@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:02:31 -0500 (CDT) | 
 
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As the Keeper of the (I hope) Ultimate List of Roman reenactment  
societies, I *have* to chip in here... 
 
Let not the largeness of Nova Roma's significance in our hearts blind  
us to the smallness of her (current) presence in the world.  *Every*  
Legion and Cohort on my (19K text file) reenactor listing formed and  
grew up independently of Nova Roma, and most of them are not even aware  
of her existence.  I have sent Consul Cassius a copy of the listing so  
that he might contact the various units and rectify that situation...!  
 (Hopefully he will also see fit to post it on the Web site.)  >(<|:-) 
 
The previous version, which went out in January, is visible on the  
Classics Pavilion  
<www.pen.k12.va.us/Anthology/pav/classics/NetRes1.html>; the Stateside  
portion is on Mike Bishop's Armamentarium 
<www.ncl.ac.uk/~nantiq/arma/welc/info.htm#REENACTORS>.  Anyone else who  
would like a copy, feel free to e-mail me privately. 
 
I have been Keeper of the List for three years and am currently  
gathering info for the next release.  Antonius Gryllus, I want to thank  
you for posting Peter's list; there are several new groups on it that I  
didn't have!   
 
Truly our habit of running around in Legionary armor on the weekends is  
spreading ever more rapidly...and yet, in line with my Nova Roma  
thought at the beginning of this post, all the Roman reenactors in the  
world put together would probably not make an understrength Cohort.  I  
would not be terribly worried about organizing/centralizing them just  
yet; I've got all I can do just to put them in contact with each other! 
 
[A Cohort is roughly 400-600 men.] 
 
Yours under the Eagles, 
---  
 __________  _<~)    __________ 
<-\\\\@@@@@)  /##\  (@@@@@////-> Märia Villarroel legion6@-------- 
    <-\\\@@@@(#####@@@@///->     Historical Re-Creationist 
	 <-\\\*##*///->            and Citizen of Rome 
    o---<<<<||SPQR||>>>>---o     Latin lessons, History lectures    
	     ///\\\              Role-playing Games, too! 
 
aka Lucius Marius Fimbria on the weekends 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 web site | 
 
	| From: | 
	 pjane pjane@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:38:24 -0400 (EDT) | 
 
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As some of you may know, Germanicus appointed me keeper of the Nova Roma 
web site upon his resignation. I'm qualified for the job in some ways - I'm 
a professional Web developer in my "other" life - but my knowledge of 
ancient Rome is somewhat rudimentary as yet. (Hanging around Cassius has 
greatly improved it!) 
 
Of course I cannot do this alone, and in the coming weeks I'll be actively 
soliciting volunteers to help with various aspects of the site. If you have 
a special area of knowledge (such as Lucius Marius Fimbrius' knowledge of 
Roman re-enactment groups), please consider lending a little of your time 
to help get good information out to others. If you have Web skills, I also 
want to hear from you. 
 
Also, if anyone is interested in learning Web work, there are some areas of 
the site that need a small overhaul - not to rip up Germanicus' work, but 
to hone it and adjust to new circumstances. I would happily do some 
tutoring in exchange for getting some of the grunt-work done! 
 
Among other things, we're moving the site from a server with FrontPage 
extensions to one without them. (Cassius has generously offered to pay for 
this, although this shouldn't stop you from donating toward this if you 
feel so inclined.)  The move should be complete within a couple of days, 
and you'll notice a few slight revisions on the main page, aimed at making 
the most popular areas of the site more easily accessible. 
 
Of course I'll be relying heavily on the ideas and suggestions of this most 
excellent group! Thanks in advance. 
 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Fw: Roman Army | 
 
	| From: | 
	 SFP55@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:53:45 EDT | 
 
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In a message dated 98-09-10 15:40:18 EDT, you write: 
  
<< If I am looking at the Legion List properly, the bulk of thses people 
 are re-enactors unconnected with our (at present) ephemeral Nation.  
 I've looked through the list of Legions from Roman times (in two books I 
 own on Roman Armies), and there is no indication of senior and junior 
 being appended.  The same names were reused, under different Consuls and 
 Caesers, at various times and places in the Republic and Empire.>>  
  
S. Ullerius Venator 
  
When the empire split to become the East and West, the Roman army units which 
had vexillations in both were titled Senior and Junior respectively. 
Senior units were the parent unit, while junior were the detached 
Vexillations. 
Hope this helps. 
Vale  
Quintus Fabius Maximus 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Roman Army | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Stuart Williams" swilliams@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:30:39 +0100 | 
 
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Salve, Omnes!  Salve, Lucius Marius Fimbria! 
 
I should say firstly that I am not yet a member of Nova Roma; I am seriously 
considering that option at the moment - so please remember that any comments 
I may make are meant constructively, with a keen interest in and with all 
good wishes for the future of Nova Roma. 
 
I have been (with a break of about 8 months) a re-enactor (miles gregarius 
1st/2nd century CE) with Legio XIIII GMV (aka the Roman Military Research 
Society/Vexillatio Legionis Geminae) and am currently in the process of 
rejoining.  I created the original web site of that British group in October 
1997, and some of you may have viewed it since - I sincerely thank Lucius 
Marius Fimbrius for including the site in his list, and for quoting me so 
positively!  The site is now defunct and someone else is creating a new 
site, though when that will be available I do not as yet know. 
 
But more to the immediate point, I have to support the comments of L. Marius 
Fimbrius when he points out that the majority of re-enactors are totally 
independent of Nova Roma and are not even aware of her existence.  In fact 
the majority of their members probably do not even use the Internet, despite 
the web sites popping up all over the world.  What the response of 
re-enactors in general to Nova Roma will be is difficult to say; while of a 
pagan inclination myself, and very keen on this area of your work, I suspect 
most would look upon the idea of restoring the Religio Romana as at the very 
least a bit strange, which is probably going to be one sticking point in 
forming relationships with such groups.  On the other hand, I heard just 
last week of a British re-enactor who has been performing Mithraic 
initiations in the vicinity of Hadrian's Wall... 
 
Then of course you have the problem that it is unlikely that many groups 
will be keen to overturn their proud tradition of independence (witness the 
politics and infighting between some re-enactment groups in the past) and 
give up what might be seen as some of their sovereignty to a relatively 
unknown, albeit very promising and fascinating group like Nova Roma.  Of 
course if you had offices in the Forum Romanum in the eternal city itself, 
that might make a difference... :-)  In any event, I feel you have an uphill 
struggle ahead of you to even get them to work together, let alone in the 
name of Nova Roma!  Nonetheless, I wish you well in this worthy endeavour! 
 
 
Please do not think that I wish to pour cold water on anyone's enthusiasm 
for reviving the traditions of the world's greatest republic and empire; but 
I do think we have to be realistic at this stage. 
 
Incidentally, last year in Britannia we recreated the world's first full 
century of late 1st century Roman infantry for over a thousand years.  And 
that was with the help of some of the groups from Europe and the USA.  Great 
fun, and a significant achievement, but we're perhaps not yet ready to 
reconquer the Empire, even though it still stands in our hearts! 
 
Salve et Vale 
 
Marcus Valerius Secundus 
Legio XIIII GMV 
Vexillatio stationed near Letocetum, Britannia 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Roman Army | 
 
	| From: | 
	 dean6886@--------) | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:09:28 -0500 (CDT) | 
 
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    Salve, 
 
             Well, it seems to me that you have some very valid points 
as far as the difficulty in bringing various reenactor groups into the 
fold. 
Obviously some Christian members or what have you may have an objection 
with joining Nova Roma for endorsing paganism or just people enjoying 
their independence and going about their business as usual.  
    We should make every effort to make the initial invitation to them, 
as you are also correct in saying most of them probably don't have a 
clue that we exist. If not an entire reenacter group, there are to be 
certain individuals somewhere within those groups that would probably 
really enjoy participating in Nova Roma. 
      I also think that maybe we should list ourselves with more search 
engines and get on banner exchange programs whenever feasible. Many of 
us are here just because we were lucky enough to punch the right word 
into the right search engine looking for something else initially where 
we also saw a link with Nova Roma and got sidetracked..  As in business 
location is everything (even more so for the web).  
       Then there are also so many pagan websights with generic ads from 
all walks of life. If we used exactly the same wording and format as our 
flyers, that may be good places to advertise what we are in a 
nonobtrusive manner.  I think though everything we do should be 
preapproved- what is advertised on the web and where.- Sounds like a job 
for a Censor. This would keep some of our more industrious citizens from 
advertising potentially on websights that Nova Roma as a whole may not 
wish to be connected with- such as a controvertial political websight. 
I'm sure there are countless people who would love to belong and 
interact with the rest of us, if they only knew we existed. 
       Anyone reading this have any thoughts? 
 
             Gaius Drusus Domitianus 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Roman Army | 
 
	| From: | 
	 pjane pjane@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:30:24 -0400 (EDT) | 
 
 | 
Stuart Williams wrote: 
 
>On the other hand, I heard just 
>last week of a British re-enactor who has been performing Mithraic 
>initiations in the vicinity of Hadrian's Wall... 
 
Aha! So that explains the coins, candle wax and other evidence of recent 
use that we saw when we visited the Carrawburgh Mithraeum! 
 
Patricia Cassia 
 
"It is thy duty to leave another man's wrongful act there where it is." - 
M. Aurelius Antoninus 
 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: questions? | 
 
	| From: | 
	 pjane pjane@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:30:27 -0400 (EDT) | 
 
 | 
>    Can a new citizen of Nova Roma be both a priest and a soldier ? 
 
Our leaders will have more to say about this but I don't see why not. Many 
of Rome's most notable leaders served in both roles at various times during 
their lives. 
 
P. Cassia 
 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: web site | 
 
	| From: | 
	 dean6886@--------) | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:34:04 -0500 (CDT) | 
 
 | 
   It would be rather unreasonable to expect that you end up doing all 
the work for the web page. I'm sure that we all really appreciate your 
committment to maintain the page.   
    Anyway, maybe it would be better if where possible you gave a 
general outline of what exactly you would like done where possible. In 
other words giving a direction to the scheme of things. In that way I 
think people would be more willing to step up and volunteer if they knew 
beforehand exactly what it was they were volunteering for. This could 
also prove to be a wonderful way to get citizens more involved and yet 
still keep a centralized control ( a method to the madness). 
 
                     Gaius Drusus Domitianus 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: web site | 
 
	| From: | 
	 pjane pjane@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:17:07 -0400 (EDT) | 
 
 | 
>    Anyway, maybe it would be better if where possible you gave a 
>general outline of what exactly you would like done where possible. 
 
I'm still getting a feel for what IS on the site and what needs doing. Was 
anyone besides Germanicus working on the Calendar section? Whoever was 
doing so got about halfway through the year in writing descriptions of the 
various holidays; I'd like to do a little revamping for an easier-to-browse 
section, finish the descriptions of holidays and, where possible, add 
sources for finding out more about each day's meaning. 
 
That's just one section; I haven't had time to delve into the others in 
detail. Domitianus, you've already (privately) pointed out one bad link 
from the Camenaeum section; we'll need someone to check those links every 
couple of months to make sure they're still good (and still refer to useful 
information; please see the recent Hellenic Front controversy, in which a 
useful Web site changed its focus to something we didn't wish to link to). 
 
With any luck, my role will be reduced as far as possible; that's a 
necessity, as I have several other time-consuming projects in my life. I 
was just putting out a general call for volunteers. If you volunteer early, 
you get more choices of what you'd like to do! 
 
Thank you! 
 
Patricia Cassia 
 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: web site | 
 
	| From: | 
	 dean6886@--------) | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:58:11 -0500 (CDT) | 
 
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   There we go- Ok I'll volunteer to check all the links and their 
content regularly and notify you of any problems I notice. 
 
                        Gaius Drusus Domitianus 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Busts of Nova Roman Consuls. | 
 
	| From: | 
	 missmoon@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:02:06 -0400 | 
 
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Lucius wrote: 
>  
> From: "Lucius" v--------l@-------- 
>  
> >From: Nov------------------------ 
> > >Salvete omnes! 
> > 
> > >Would it be a good idea to keep a bust of every Consul of Nova Roma in 
> the 
> > Website? 
> > 
> >While I'd hate to reduce the overall artistic quality of the site with yet 
> >another photo of me, I *am* hoping that we'll be able to add a tasteful 
> >tribute to Germanicus once the site has been transferred completely. It 
> would 
> >be a shame if his many contributions to Nova Roma were forgotten as 
> everything 
> >progresses. 
> >Valete, Marcus Cassius Julianus,Consul 
>  
> .Salvete 
>         Yes, I agree completely. As well, all Consuls should have thier 
> Picture, Name and Dates of office. 
>        Valete L Equitius Cincinnatus 
>  
Sounds like a corporate annual report. Are we going to deify them, too? 
We could use a couple of neat temples..... 
 
-- Flavia Claudia 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Busts of Nova Roman Consuls. | 
 
	| From: | 
	 dean6886@--------) | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:08:30 -0500 (CDT) | 
 
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  Just going to have to use the standard drivers license pics for 
uniformity- lol 
 
     Gaius Drusus Domitianus 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: questions? | 
 
	| From: | 
	 missmoon@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:12:27 -0400 | 
 
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michael marconi wrote: 
>  
>     Salve ALL 
>  
>  
>     Can a new citizen of Nova Roma be both a priest and a soldier ? My 
> interest are in with both professions. It is hard for me to choose 
> just one, but if I must choose only one - I will choose to be a 
> priest. 
>  
>  
We could use a priest of Janus. Janus is very, very important to Rome 
and a priest who would re-create Janus's rituals would be a good thing. 
You need to apply to the Pontifices, whose names and e-mail addresses 
are on the Web page. 
 
-- Flavia Claudia 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Busts of Nova Roman Consuls. | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Robert Woolwine" Alexious@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:44:34 -0700 | 
 
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Consuls were never deified, only Emperors. 
-----Original Message----- 
From: m--------oon@-------- m--------oon@-------- 
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> 
Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 6:04 PM 
Subject: [novaroma] Re: Busts of Nova Roman Consuls. 
 
 
>From: m--------oon@-------- 
> 
>Lucius wrote: 
>> 
>> From: "Lucius" v--------l@-------- 
>> 
>> >From: Nov------------------------ 
>> > >Salvete omnes! 
>> > 
>> > >Would it be a good idea to keep a bust of every Consul of Nova Roma in 
>> the 
>> > Website? 
>> > 
>> >While I'd hate to reduce the overall artistic quality of the site with 
yet 
>> >another photo of me, I *am* hoping that we'll be able to add a tasteful 
>> >tribute to Germanicus once the site has been transferred completely. It 
>> would 
>> >be a shame if his many contributions to Nova Roma were forgotten as 
>> everything 
>> >progresses. 
>> >Valete, Marcus Cassius Julianus,Consul 
>> 
>> .Salvete 
>>         Yes, I agree completely. As well, all Consuls should have thier 
>> Picture, Name and Dates of office. 
>>        Valete L Equitius Cincinnatus 
>> 
>Sounds like a corporate annual report. Are we going to deify them, too? 
>We could use a couple of neat temples..... 
> 
>-- Flavia Claudia 
> 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: New Senatorial Appointment! :) | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Dexippus@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:01:12 EDT | 
 
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Congratulations Lucius!  I know you will do well! 
 
--Dexippus 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: New Senatorial Appointment! :) | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Lucius" vergil@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:18:48 -0400 | 
 
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->Congratulations Lucius!  I know you will do well! 
> 
>--Dexippus 
> 
 
Salve, 
        Thanks Dexippus. Too bad you never come to the chat room. Maybe you 
should try again sometime, it is much more interesting than earlier, there 
are more citizens now. 
       Vale L Equitius 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: New Senatorial Appointment! :) | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Ricci razenna@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:37:33 -0700 | 
 
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Ave Senator! 
 
And again I'll offer you my congratulations. 
I have a feeling I'll be congratulating you for a number of things in 
the future. 
 
Caius Aelius Ericius 
 
 
 
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