Forum Romanum


Subject:	Re: Good news!
From:	pythia kingan@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 23:45:50 -0500

YAY Flavia!!

I have just ordered "The Salem Witch's Book Of Love Spells" from Bookport in
Hingham. At only $10.95 I urge all those Nova Romans who are able, to rush out and
order this book from their local bookstores! Firstly, it will support our own dear
Flavia Claudia, and secondly it gives the little guy in your neighborhood the
business!

Nota Bene: Flavia is a mysterious woman of many names.......When you order the
book be sure you name Lilith McLelland as the author!

Happy reading (and loving ;-0)

Pythia

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Subject:	Re: Abbreviated Terms
From:	jmath669642reng@--------)
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:05:20 -0500 (EST)

I think if I get somebody drooling I'm gonna get outa there!!!!!!!!!!

M. Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


Subject:	Re: Good news!
From:	Nodigio@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:25:05 EST

In a message dated 98-10-30 00:14:28 EST, you write:

<< Does anyone know about a form of witchcraft that had its' origin in
Italy. I heard
that there is one, but I'm having difficulties finding information about it.

Valete

L. Marconius >>

I think it's called Strega, and there are several books written about it, and
should, IMHO, be taken cum grano salis. The main text seems to be "Aradia" by
Charles Leyden.

I'm sorry, but I seem to be having a bit of lapsus memoriae over the titles of
the other books....

But a web search of Strega ought to help.

Ex animo,
Secunda Floria Zonara


Subject:	Re: Good news!
From:	"D. Iunius Palladius" amcgrath@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 03:34:59 -0500 (EST)

On Sat, 31 Oct 1998, michael marconi wrote:

> Salvete!
>
> Does anyone know about a form of witchcraft that had its' origin in Italy. I heard
> that there is one, but I'm having difficulties finding information about it.

The person to ask would be our very own Dexippus whose gens I believe is
practicing and promoting a form of Strega.

Palladius

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Non scholae sed vitae discimus.

Seneca

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"Such things have often happened and still happen,
and how can these be signs of the end of the world?"

Julian, Emperor of Rome 361-363 A.D.
Extant 331-363 A.D.


Subject:	Re: Apud omnes una lingua
From:	pjane pjane@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:43:00 -0500 (EST)

>Yes, maybe this is lacking in the Nova Roma page... There should be a
>section dedicated only to latin resources. Here are some resource pointers:
>
><a href="http://www.csbsju.edu/library/internet/latin.html" target="_top" >http://www.csbsju.edu/library/internet/latin.html</a>

Graecus, would you like to volunteer to compile a list of resources most
useful to Nova Romans? With your perspective you can also offer resources
to the non-English-speaking members of the list. No need to format it in
HTML (unless, of course, you want to) - I can take care of that if you just
send me the content.

Patricia Cassia


Subject:	Re: Apud omnes una lingua
From:	"Antonio M. R. C. Grilo" amg@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:29:54 -0000

Salvete omnes!

>Graecus, would you like to volunteer to compile a list of resources most
>useful to Nova Romans?
Sources on Latin language and Literature? I will with great pleasure. As to
other resources I have, many were picked up following Nova Roma Web links.
But I think there are many interesting things which are not directly
accessible from Nova Roma. I will make my best! ;)

>With your perspective you can also offer resources
>to the non-English-speaking members of the list.
The Lusitania page will soon include a list of Web links to portuguese sites
on Roman history, archaeology, and neo-pagan groups. I will list them too.

> No need to format it in
>HTML (unless, of course, you want to) - I can take care of that if you just
>send me the content.
I prefer to send you the content, as I'm affraid to make an HTML mess. =)

Gratias ago!

Antonius Gryllus Graecus
(Praetor ad Lusitaniam Provinciam)

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Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 11:42 AM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: Apud omnes una lingua

>From: p-------- p--------@--------
>
>>Yes, maybe this is lacking in the Nova Roma page... There should be a
>>section dedicated only to latin resources. Here are some resource
pointers:
>>
>><a href="http://www.csbsju.edu/library/internet/latin.html" target="_top" >http://www.csbsju.edu/library/internet/latin.html</a>
>
>Graecus, would you like to volunteer to compile a list of resources most
>useful to Nova Romans? With your perspective you can also offer resources
>to the non-English-speaking members of the list. No need to format it in
>HTML (unless, of course, you want to) - I can take care of that if you just
>send me the content.
>
>Patricia Cassia
>
>
>
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Subject:	Re: Good news!
From:	missmoon@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:29:44 -0500

pythia wrote:

> From: pythia kingan@--------
>
> YAY Flavia!!
>
> I have just ordered "The Salem Witch's Book Of Love Spells" from Bookport in
> Hingham. At only $10.95 I urge all those Nova Romans who are able, to rush out and
> order this book from their local bookstores! Firstly, it will support our own dear
> Flavia Claudia, and secondly it gives the little guy in your neighborhood the
> business!

All RIGHT! Support your local independent bookstore, which is trying real hard to
survive the chains.
And thanks, Pythia!

>
>
> Nota Bene: Flavia is a mysterious woman of many names.......When you order the
> book be sure you name Lilith McLelland as the author!

Yeah. I write under so many names that I feel like Sybil. The schizophrenic, not the
Oracle.

Flavia Claudia


Subject:	Re: Stregheria & Sicily
From:	missmoon@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:50:40 -0500

pythia wrote:

>
>
> michael marconi wrote:
>
>> Salvete!
>>
>> Does anyone know about a form of witchcraft that had its' origin
>> in Italy. I heard that there is one, but I'm having difficulties
>> finding information about it.
>
Stregheria is most deeply rooted in Sicily, where it's still practiced
enthusiastically. It's origins may be in Thessalian witchcraft, but the
popularity of Stregheria was advanced by Charles Leland in the late
1800's who wrote a book called "Aradia." The book's origins -- and
authenticity -- are murky. Leland was researching possible survivals of
a witch cult in Italy, and let it be known among the locals what he was
looking for. Out of nowhere comes this woman he called Maddalena, who
gave him old texts; as he put it "exactly what he was looking for."
Every anthropologist knows that getting "exactly what you were looking
for" is kind of suspect. And Leland never produced the mysterious
Maddalena. The manuscript itself was a kind of mishmash of common
inaccuracies about witchcraft and not a little Catholicism, but there
are also clues to a much older worship. It's thought now that the
Stregae of Sicily were joshin' Leland and making a nice profit, without
actually giving away many of their secrets. "Aradia" aside, Stregheria
is a strong blend of folkloric magic and the remnants of an older Pagan
religion practiced by the descendants of Roman slaves and freedmen. I
would think that the worship of Atargadis bore more looking into by
modern Stregae, but many (not all, by a long shot) take "Aradia" at face
value. One of the most prominent writers on the modern adaptations of
Stregheria is Raven Grimassi, but there are certainly other sources.
Fascinating religion which seems to have changed very little through the
centuries -- but since it's passed down mainly through families and
people they have taken into their confidence and trained, we'll never
really know! We're talkin' SICILY here!

Dex can probably tell you more, but then he'd have to leave a horse's
head in your bed.

-- Flavia Claudia


Subject:	Compilation of Web Sites
From:	"Antonio M. R. C. Grilo" amg@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:47:38 -0000

Salvete omnes!

These are the sites I have bookmarked in my browser:

-Places similar to Nova Roma
<a href="http://www.ancientsites.com/index.rage" target="_top" >http://www.ancientsites.com/index.rage</a> - Maybe we can recruit more citizens
here...

-Archaeology
<a href="http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/ioa/afs/testpit.html" target="_top" >http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/ioa/afs/testpit.html</a> - if you want to have
fieldwork holidays.

-Ancient Civilizations
<a href="http://www.crystalinks.com/ancient.html" target="_top" >http://www.crystalinks.com/ancient.html</a> - brief notes on ancient and lost
civilizations
<a href="http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/themes.html" target="_top" >http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/themes.html</a> - Ancient texts on
several aspects of ancient life.

-Latin language and Literature
<a href="http://www.csbsju.edu/library/internet/latin.html" target="_top" >http://www.csbsju.edu/library/internet/latin.html</a> - This site has everything
on the Latin language and literature.

-History of Rome
<a href="http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~zimm/gibbon.html" target="_top" >http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~zimm/gibbon.html</a> - Excerpts from Gibbon's
'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'.
<a href="http://www.medrawt.sux.com/inc/history/" target="_top" >http://www.medrawt.sux.com/inc/history/</a> - Fifth century barbarian invasions.
<a href="http://www-dial.ece.arizona.edu/~paola/Emperors/baggin_emperors.html" target="_top" >http://www-dial.ece.arizona.edu/~paola/Emperors/baggin_emperors.html</a> -
Collection of Roman Emperors.
<a href="http://www.salve.edu/~dimaiom/impindex.html" target="_top" >http://www.salve.edu/~dimaiom/impindex.html</a> - Encyclopedia of Roman and
Bizantine Emperors.

-Roman Military History
<a href="http://www.magweb.com/mallatmw/omm/ommc15a.htm" target="_top" >http://www.magweb.com/mallatmw/omm/ommc15a.htm</a> - Bookshop.
<a href="http://www.fiu.edu/~eltonh/index.html" target="_top" >http://www.fiu.edu/~eltonh/index.html</a> - The homepage of an ancient military
historian, with interesting links, including the material and bibliography
of his classes.
<a href="http://www.cfcsc.dnd.ca/links/milhist/anc.html" target="_top" >http://www.cfcsc.dnd.ca/links/milhist/anc.html</a> - Resources on ancient
military history.
<a href="http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rrice/samh.html" target="_top" >http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rrice/samh.html</a> - Society of ancient military
historians.

-Pagan Religion
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/2938/templetoc.html" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/2938/templetoc.html</a> - Levantine and
Canaanite pagan religion. Useful for Carthage admirers.
<a href="http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/PT/BA/index.html#rituals" target="_top" >http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/PT/BA/index.html#rituals</a> - Texts from
several sources on ancient magic and religion.
<a href="http://www.bioch.ox.ac.uk/~payam/mithra/" target="_top" >http://www.bioch.ox.ac.uk/~payam/mithra/</a> - Page dedicated to Mithras.
<a href="http://members.aol.com/Cassius622/" target="_top" >http://members.aol.com/Cassius622/</a> - Mithras mailing list... Ask Consul
Cassius for more details =).
<a href="http://www.well.com/user/davidu/" target="_top" >http://www.well.com/user/davidu/</a> - Homepage of David Ulansey, the auhor of
'The Origins of the Mithraic Mysteries: Cosmology and Salvation in the
Ancient World'. Lots of interesting links!!!
<a href="http://www.dimensional.com/~randl/tarsus.htm" target="_top" >http://www.dimensional.com/~randl/tarsus.htm</a> - About Saul of Tarsus and
Mithraism.
<a href="http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/PT/BA/Har.html" target="_top" >http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/PT/BA/Har.html</a> - The art of haruspicy.
<a href="http://198.248.56.50/~jjackson/oly.html" target="_top" >http://198.248.56.50/~jjackson/oly.html</a> - A few notes on Olympian Gods.

-Resources on the Lusitania Provincia (mostly in Portuguese)
<a href="http://www.terravista.pt/guincho/1915/" target="_top" >http://www.terravista.pt/guincho/1915/</a> - Neo-Pagan Web site.
<a href="http://alf.ci.uc.pt/iauc/index.html" target="_top" >http://alf.ci.uc.pt/iauc/index.html</a> - Archaeology Institute of the
University of Coimbra.
<a href="http://www.uc.pt/BAHP/bahp90.arq.top.html" target="_top" >http://www.uc.pt/BAHP/bahp90.arq.top.html</a> - Bibliography for achaeology and
history of Portugal.
<a href="http://www.uc.pt/Conimbriga/INICIO.HTM" target="_top" >http://www.uc.pt/Conimbriga/INICIO.HTM</a> - Roman town of Conimbriga. History,
archaeology, etc. (in English)
<a href="http://www.uc.pt/MachCastro/edific.top.html" target="_top" >http://www.uc.pt/MachCastro/edific.top.html</a> - Roman town of Aeminium.
History, archaeology, etc.
<a href="http://sweet.ua.pt/~lsl/talabriga.html" target="_top" >http://sweet.ua.pt/~lsl/talabriga.html</a> - Roman town of Talabriga. History,
archaeology, etc.

I've more bookmarks, but all of them are accessible through the Nova Roma
Web Links. I don't know if the above compilation corresponds to your
request, Patricia Cassia...

Valete!

Antonius Gryllus Graecus
(Praetor ad Lusitaniam Provinciam)


Subject:	Re: Comment Commentary, Long
From:	Cassius622@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:41:58 EST

Salve,

I just "belatedly" saw this list post of yours. I've been looking into the
"Dictionary of Roman Religion" by Adkins and Adkins, and have noticed at least
a couple dozen deities which in some territories were worshipped in common
between the Germans and the Romans. Would this information be of any help to
you? I've been thinking of going through and making a complete list, and can
easily forward it your way if it'd be of interest.

Vale,

Marcus Cassius Julianus

In a message dated 10/28/98 8:22:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
amgunn@-------- write--------r>
<< From: Mega--------bin--------amgunn@--------

Acer Salus et Bonum Fortuna Amicae Meus!

Marcus Municius Audens - Quintus Caecilius Metellus - Caius Aelius
Ericus

Such august commentors!

I am truly gratified that my attempt at putting feelings into words has
been well received. I am, perhaps, idealistic in my expectations. But,
we are attempting to cooperate in a Rebirth of something which straddled
its world like no Human Institution before or since, excepting perhaps
the spread of the Cult of the White Christ of Galilee.

I Pledge myself to assist in the Re-Awakening of Nova Roma.

Even though the Cultural Ancestors we will try to emulate in the New
City were bitter military and merchantile enemies of the Cultural
Ancestors of my Religion, the world is an huge place and we can have (in
Asatru terms) a Frithful relationship. The Religio and Asatru are
Faithful Cousins within the larger Indo-European Family, so I see no
modern reasons that I should not support the efforts of New Romans.
(The extremists at both ends of the spectrum in Asatru notwithstanding,
I do speak on behalf of my own Intellect and Conscious.)

Within the Asatru Faith I have declared my intention to be an ambassador
without portfolia between the several Communities with whom I have
contact. I shall always strive to be Well Come at Trading Post, Tavern
and Temple. I have been for most of my life a solitary Seeker.
Attempts long and long ago to contact "Organized" Heathenry failed, the
reasons were varied and have no bearing on this statement.

I have over the past three years again sought companionship. First
within the Asatru Groups and then beyond that to Faithful Cousins. I
have been well received thus far. I believe this is because I approach
with caution, courtesy and curiousity, and (hopefully) without
preconceived notions about what to expect. I am a visitor in
Communities that mean much more to the "permanent" inhabitants than,
admittedly, they do to me. At heart I am still a freeholder from just
beyond the edge of the settled areas. I do enjoy company, the more so
the older I get, which is every day.
>>


Subject:	"Augur", "Auger" whatever... ;)
From:	Cassius622@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:20:42 EST

Salvete,

I've been keeping a pretty low profile on my horrendous spelling error, but
when I saw this title I figured I better say *something*!

I hope everyone, most especially Saevus and Dexippus, can forgive my
misspelling on the Augur postings. I'd just gotten up and was rushing off to
work at the time... and just didn't think to look over what I'd written!

Hey, it could have been worse. I could have typed Roamin' for "Roman" for
instance...

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus


Subject:	Re: Comment Commentary, Long
From:	dean6886@--------)
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:27:39 -0600 (CST)

It would be great to establish not only such a list but also to open
up a direct line of communication between us and some select Asatru or
Celtic or other such groups.
That could lead to exchanging information, maybe co-hosting an event
one day/ who knows? I hope that we start taking steps in those
directions some time in the future.

Gaius Drusus Domitianus


Subject:	Roman Related Humor - Long
From:	Megas-Robinson amgunn@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:58:30 -0800

Salvete Omnes,
I offer this for your viewing pleasure, though it may be most amusing to
the veterans in the audience.
Valete, Venator

A Medal For Horatius by W.C. Hall -C- 1954 AUSA
===============================================

ROME II Kalends Aprilis CCCLX AUC
SUBJECT: Recommendation for Senate Medal of Honor
TO : Department of War, Republic of Rome
I. Recommend Gaius Horatius, Captain of Foot, Serial No.
GCH-MCMXIV-HF, for the Senate Medal of Honor.
II. Captain Horatius has served XVI years, all honorably.
III. On III Kalends Martius CCCLX AUC, during the attack on the City
by Lars Porsena of Clusium and his Tuscan Army of CXM men, Captain
Horatius voluntarily, with Sergeant Spurius Lartius and Corporal Julius
Herminius, held the entire Tuscan Army at the far end of the Tiberine
bridge until the structure could be destroyed, thereby saving Rome.
IV. Captain Horatius did valiently fight and kill one Major Picus
of Clusium in individual combat.
V. The exemplary courage and the outstanding leadership of Captain
Horatius are in the highest tradition of the Roman Army.
SIGNED : JULIUS LUCULLUS URBANIS, Commander, IInd Legion, the Aventines

Ist Indorsement: AG. IV Kalends Aprilis CCCLX AUC
TO : Office of G-III
For comment.
G.C.T.

IInd Indorsement: G-III II Ides Maius CCCLX AUC
TO : Office of G-II
I. For comment and forwarding.
II. Change paragraph III, line V from "saving Rome." to "lessened
the effectiveness of the enemy attack." The Roman Army was well
dispersed tactically; the reserves had not been committed. The phrase
as written might be construed to cast aspersions on our fine Army.
III. Change paragraph V, line I from "outstanding leadership" to
read "commendable initiative." Captain Horatius' command was II men,
only I/V of a Squad.
J.C.V.

IIIrd Indorsement: G-II II Ides Junius CCCLX AUC
TO : Office of G-I
I. Omit strength of Tuscan forces in paragraph III. This
information is classified.
II. A report evaluated as B-II reliability states that the Tuscan
officer involved was Captain Pincus of Tifernum. Recommend change of
"Major Picus of Clusium" to "an officer of the enemy forces."
T.J.S.

IVth Indorsement: G-I IX Ides Ianuarius CCCLXI AUC
TO : JAG
I. Captain Horatius' full name on his enlistment contract is:
Gaius Caius Horatius, change message to reflect this.
II. Change years of service from XVI to XV. I year of membership
in the Romulus Chapter, Wolf Cub Boys, has been given credit as military
service in error.
E.J.M.

Vth Indorsement: JAG II Kalends Februarius CCCLXI AUC
TO : AG
I. The Porsena Raid was not during wartime, the Temple of Janus
was closed.
II. The action against the Porsena Raid was, ipso facto, a Police
Action.
III. The Senate Medal of Honor cannot be awarded in peacetime. (Ref.
Army Reg. Vol. CVIII Chapt. XXV Para. XII Sect. III)
IV. Suggest consideration for the Soldier's Medal.
P.B.J.

VIth Indorsement: AG IV Kalends Aprilis CCCLXI AUC
TO : G-I
Concur with paragraph IV, Vth indorsement.
L.J.T.

VIIth Indorsement: G-I Kalend Maius CCCLXI AUC
TO : AG
The Soldier's Medal is awarded for saving lives; suggest Star of Bronze
as appropriate.
E.J.M.

VIIIth Indorsement: AG III Kalends Iunius CCCLXI AUC
TO : JAG
For Opinion.
G.C.T.

IXth Indorsement: JAG II Kalends Septembris CCCLXI AUC
TO : AG
I. XVII months have elapsed since the events described in the
basic letter. The Star of Bronze cannot be awarded afetr XV months have
elapsed.
II. Recommended officer is eligible for the Papyrus Scroll with
Metal Pendant.
P.B.J.

Xth Indorsement: AG I Ides Octobris CCCLXI AUC
TO : G-I
For draft of citation for Papyrus Scroll with Metal Pendant.
G.C.T.

XIth Indorsement: G-I III Kalends Octobris CCCLXI AUC
TO : G-II
I. Do not concur.
II. Our currently fine relations with Tuscany would suffer and
current delicate negotiations might be jeopardized if publicity were
given to Captain Horatius' actions of III Kalends Martius CCCLX AUC at
the present time.
T.J.S.

XIIth Indorsement: G-II VI Kalend Novembris CCCLXI AUC
TO : G-I
A report rated D-IV, partially verified, states that Lars Porsena is
very sensitive about the Horatius affair.
E.T.H.

XIIIth Indorsement: G-I X Kalends Novembris CCCLXI AUC
TO : AG
I. In view ofinformation contained in preceding XIth and XIIth
indorsements, you will prepare immediate orders for Captain G.C.
Horatius to one of our overseas Caestra.
II. His attention will be drawn to pargraph XII, Movement Order
Security Regulations, which prohibits interviews or conversation with
newsmen prior to arrival at final destination.
L.T.U.

ROME II Kalends Aprilis CCCLXII AUC
SUBJECT: Fiscal Survey Report of Department of War
TO : Captain Gaius Caius Horatius
IIIrd Legion the Transmarians, Vth Phalanx of Foot
APO XIX c/o Postmaster, Rome
I. Your statements concerning the loss of your shield and sword in
the Tiber River on III Kalends Martius CCCLX AUC, have been carefully
considered.
II. It is admitted that you were briefly in action against certain
unfriendly elements on that day. However, Sergeant Spurius Lartius and
Corporal Julius Herminius were in the same action and did not lose any
government property.
III. The Finance Officer has been directed to reduce your next pay
by II I/II talents (I III/IV talents cost of one, each, sword,
officer's, Model V MkII; III/IV talents cost of one, each, shield, heavy
infantry, Model III MkI).
IV. You are enjoined and admonished to pay strict attention to the
conservation of government funds and property. The budget must be
balanced next year.
SIGNED: H. HOCUS POCUS, Lieutenant of Light Horse, Fiscal Survey
Officer


Subject:	Re: Comment Commentary, Long
From:	Megas-Robinson amgunn@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:04:58 -0800

Salus et Fortuna Marcus Cassius!

As I am an eternal seeker of knowledge, lay on! This would be of great
interest, especially in light of a conversation I had with the Pythia
last evening. (Thanks for the thought food, Lady!)

Vale, Venator
>
> From: C--------us622@--------
>
> Salve,
>
> I just "belatedly" saw this list post of yours. I've been looking into the
> "Dictionary of Roman Religion" by Adkins and Adkins, and have noticed at least
> a couple dozen deities which in some territories were worshipped in common
> between the Germans and the Romans. Would this information be of any help to
> you? I've been thinking of going through and making a complete list, and can
> easily forward it your way if it'd be of interest.
>
> Vale,
>
> Marcus Cassius Julianus
>


Subject:	Re: Abbreviated Terms
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:43:57 EST

In a message dated 98-10-30 00:11:37 EST, you write:

<< I think if I get somebody drooling I'm gonna get outa there!!!!!!!!!!
>>

: P~~~~ too late Audens! : )

--Dexippus


Subject:	Re: Good news!
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:50:40 EST

In a message dated 98-10-30 00:14:30 EST, you write:

<< Does anyone know about a form of witchcraft that had its' origin in Italy.
I heard
that there is one, but I'm having difficulties finding information about it.
>>

Marconius...it's called Stregheria and information is very scarce. The only
published sources are the writings of Raven Grimassi. See his book "Ways of
the Strega" by Llewellyn publications.

There is a real history of witchcraft in Italy but I think Grimassi adds a
little bit too much of his own interpretation into his historical analysis
(i.e. his take on Godfrey's "Aradia: Gospel of the Witches"). <<no offense
to other Streghe who may be reading my post...Raven is a great writer but I
see some flaws in his personal interpretations. This is just my opinion of
course>>.

If you would like to further discuss this form of witchcraft, please e-mail me
personally. I may be able to lead you to some other sources on the Net. But
It's not really on topic for this list.

--Dexippus


Subject:	Re: Good news!
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:53:05 EST

In a message dated 98-10-30 04:07:38 EST, you write:

<< The person to ask would be our very own Dexippus whose gens I believe is
practicing and promoting a form of Strega.
>>

Yes Sir!...Strega...Wicca...Witta...whatever "witch" tradition a fellow
citizen of Nova Roma may also be practicing in conjunction with Religio
Romana.

Marconius...e-mail me and I can give you some more information about
Stregheria.

--Dexippus
<<in a rush...leaving for ChillerCon in 10 minutes!>>


Subject:	Re: Stregheria & Sicily
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:59:21 EST

In a message dated 98-10-30 09:20:24 EST, you write:

<< Dex can probably tell you more, but then he'd have to leave a horse's
head in your bed. >>

Flavia is pretty on target with her take on Leland...though I don't think
Maddalena was profiting from Charles. She may have existed...she may not have
existed. But even the questionable practices she supposedly handed to him
have some cultural basis in Mediterranean peoples (i.e. the "threatening" of
deity to grant a wish or spell).

--Dexippus
<<cutting the head off a horse as we speak>>


Subject:	Re: "Augur", "Auger" whatever... ;)
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:01:09 EST

In a message dated 98-10-30 12:52:53 EST, you write:

<< I hope everyone, most especially Saevus and Dexippus, can forgive my
misspelling on the Augur postings. >>

Hey...I didn't even notice it until it was pointed out.

All is forgiven here!

--Dexippus


Subject:	Re: Stregheria & Sicily
From:	Ricci razenna@--------
Date:	Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:02:57 -0800

Ciao!

Many good posts and comments on this thread. One thing though
[amputation scale snipping]
>We're talkin' SICILY here!

Leland's Aradia and his "informant" Madalena are set in Northern
Italy, the Emiglia Romagna.
George Godfrey Leland did a lot of his "folkloric" work in the
Tuscan regions. One of his books which elaborates on these
tidbits of "proto-anthropology" (as I call it) is _Etruscan Magic
& Occult Remedies_.

As I write this I feel that I might be triggering some sort of
Italian regionalistic spat, because my Sicilian friends practice
many of the things Leland discusses and are firm in their
conviction that what he writes about is Sicilian. Please, take
no offense. Per piacere, paisani! The things may be common in
all the traditional areas. Whatever. Mr. Leland talks mainly
(not solely) about the Emiglia Romagna. [You thought the
Sicilians had tight lips? The Toscani are so tight lipped you
didn't even know they had anything to say!]
=({;-)

Bene Valete,

Ericius