| Subject: |
Re: Kids R Nova Roma |
| From: |
Pythia kingan@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 07 Nov 1998 22:10:15 +0000 |
|
> Really, though, I think the NR parents should get together and research
> some way to include children in the Micronation. Maybe their own page on
> the Website...with some of Pythia's lovely stories from mythology? And a
> spot for the kids' artwork and stories about Rome?
Count me in....
Pythia
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| Subject: |
Re: Explanations |
| From: |
Pythia kingan@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 07 Nov 1998 22:51:58 +0000 |
|
A. Iulia wrote:
>
>
> Hmm do you know me personally? I actually belong to a church choir!!
> A Cathedral choir no less!
>
This made me laugh! I go to an Anglican church too. The more "bells and
smells" the better! lol
You know the requirements for being a good Episcopalian(Anglican)?
I . You need to know how to make a good Gin and Tonic,
II. You need to play (choose any that apply) Golf, Squash, or Tennis
III. You need to know how to arrange the seating at a dinner party.(You
can cook if you want, but catered is ok, too)
;-), Pythia
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| Subject: |
Re: What was that? Huh? |
| From: |
Pythia kingan@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 07 Nov 1998 22:54:15 +0000 |
|
Wow Dex, you are workin' that Strophum, honey!
Pythia (very jealous1)
A. Iulia wrote:
>
> From: "A. Iulia" iuliacaesaria@--------
>
> *Sets up the catwalk and the lighting*
> *In her best presenter voice*
>
> Good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen. We are here today for a show
> centering completely on Roman undergarments.
>
> OK and here we have Damianus Lucianus Dexippus modelling the Strophum.
> This ancient undergarment comes from Rome and was the equivalent of a
> modern-day brassiere.
> This amazing item can be worn in many different ways, our model,
> Dexippus is showing us the straightforward wrap around and underneath
> support way.
>
> Next, Dexippus will be modelling as a dancing girl and showing off our
> range of bikini briefs.
>
> Thank you that is all for this show
>
> Noct'a
>
> Humble thanks to Marii
>
> ---Dexippus@-------- wrote:
> >
> > From: Dexippus@--------
> >
> > In a message dated 98-11-06 21:26:59 EST, you write:
> >
> > << All applicants, male or female alike, are to prepare their own
> > Strophum and be ready at our command to show it off! >>
> >
> > Stand Back...Ms. Damianus Lucianus Dexippus coming through!
> >
> > --ME
> >
> >
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| Subject: |
Re: What was that? Huh? |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 07 Nov 1998 00:12:07 -0500 |
|
A. Iulia wrote:
>
> From: "A. Iulia" iuliacaesaria@--------
>
> *Sets up the catwalk and the lighting*
> *In her best presenter voice*
>
We've gone from catfights to the catwalk, all in one day!
This was too, too funny, Iulia! Now I guess we know all there is to know
about Roman undies.
-- Flavia Claudia
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| Subject: |
Re: Anglican hell |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 07 Nov 1998 00:15:56 -0500 |
|
Pythia wrote:
>
> F
> You know the requirements for being a good Episcopalian(Anglican)?
>
No, but I know what the Anglican idea of Hell is.
Being condemned forever to having to use the wrong fork at dinner.
-- F. Claudia
been there, done that
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| Subject: |
Re: Explanations |
| From: |
Nodigio@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 00:42:39 EST |
|
In a message dated 11/6/98 7:06:33 PM Central Standard Time,
iuliacaesaria@-------- writes:
<< Look at it from the perspective of people of other beliefs.
>>
Aren't people from other beliefs free to join with those of like mind? Were I
to be a British Celtic Revivalist, I would join Celtic groups, and were I to
be a Christian, I'd join Christian oriented groups, and were I to be Nordic,
I'd join the assorted Asatru groups.... But I am Roman, and I choose to join
a Roman group. It's the same as if I were to go back to college and join the
Chess Club - they'd frown on me trying to insist that Snakes and Ladders was
an appropriate game for the chessplayers, and what they would do if I tried to
introduce dicing or tea leaf reading! The same applies here. The Consitution
is available for all to read, and it clearly states that the Religio Romana is
the primary reason for the founding of Nova Roma.
If you wish to follow another religion - there are plenty of other
micronations and groups out there to join. If you are interested in things
Roman and of the Religio Romana, then Nova Roma is the place to be (Greeeeen
Acres! sorry!).
Secunda Floria Zonara
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| Subject: |
Re: Kids R Nova Roma |
| From: |
"D. Iunius Palladius" amcgrath@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 02:36:19 -0500 (EST) |
|
On Fr-------- Nov 1998 m--------oon@-------- wrote:
> From: m--------oon@--------
>
> I'm not sure whether this is a matter for the Censors or the Consuls or
> who, but...
>
> With the pending birth of a mini-Citizen, shouldn't we set up a Register
> of Births or something? What was the ancient practice of registering
> newborn babies? I seem to remember reading something about this.
Until a child is of the age to be a citizen, 15 years of age (when they
are of age to vote in Nova Roma), he or she is a member of the gens
that the parent(s) belong to if the gens and the parents wish that to be
the case. How those records are kept, or if they
are, is a matter for individual gentes. In the Iunii, children are
definitely considered members of the gens, I would never think of
excluding them. Thus Crystallina's baby on the way, as well as her
daughter are Iunii as much as a registered voting citizen with the name.
Palladius
Paterfamilas Gen Iunia. Censor
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Non scholae sed vitae discimus.
Seneca
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"Such things have often happened and still happen,
and how can these be signs of the end of the world?"
Julian, Emperor of Rome 361-363 A.D.
Extant 331-363 A.D.
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| Subject: |
Re: The Birth of Lapis Stone (Secundus Iunius Something-or-other) |
| From: |
"D. Iunius Palladius" amcgrath@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 02:55:43 -0500 (EST) |
|
On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Amethyst C Light wrote:
> From: amethystcrystallight@-------- (Amethyst C Light)
>
> On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:07:52 EST Dexippus@-------- writes:
>
> ><< No date is certain, but I am going to try to have the surgery
> >scheduled
> > for February 15th (a Monday). >>
> >
> >
> >I still maintain the baby should be given the Nova Roman name of
> >Romulus to
> >honor his planned birth on the Lupercalia!
> >
> >
> >--Dexippus
> >
>
>
> Actually, I don't know exactly WHO would be in charge of giving Lapis his
> (at least temporary) Latin/Roman name. I have put my poor, dear
> Palladius on the spot to come up with one, not 100% sure if it is
> actually his 'job'. You don't want me doing it -- my Latin is
> horrible!!!!! You thought the Auger/Augur thing was a hoot?!?!?!
Nahh, that's not being put on the spot. Who knows what I may come up with
for a name? *evil grin* Just kidding, it will be an honorable Roman name.
Fortunately, I still have time to think...:)
Palladius
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Non scholae sed vitae discimus.
Seneca
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"Such things have often happened and still happen,
and how can these be signs of the end of the world?"
Julian, Emperor of Rome 361-363 A.D.
Extant 331-363 A.D.
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| Subject: |
Re: Quints and Corvus |
| From: |
SFP55@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 03:17:56 EST |
|
In a message dated 98-11-06 12:16:02 EST, you write:
Salve Audens!
<< A Liburnian is another matter! One of my favorite historical vessels.
Do we have a reference (s) for the detaled study of such? Do we have a
model company from which we can get plans or better still a model kit?<<
We have some rough plans. I have a three way view drawn.
All we can get as models are Tris and Quints. They don't make a Liburnian.
When I was going to College at San Diego State they had a large parking
lot on a lower level of the campus. The stairs leading up to the campus
buildings was called "Heart Attack Hill."
You went to State. So did I. Know the climb well.
>>Anyway, we used to have fleet re-enactments on the parking lot with a
Classical Professor in charge of the action. If you came the first time you
were assigned as "1st Officer" to one of the Captains of a single vessel who
had been there before.<<
The professor was Dr. A. Coox. He got me into the masters program at Uni of
Chicago. There I met Arthur Farrell.
I used to teach Galley Warfare, Ships and Tactics at Grossmont Comm College in
El Cajon, CA in the late '70s when we had unlimated funding. I was just
starting the Age of Sail when they pulled the plug.
>> If you are up for it count me in!!!!!<<
I will. Good to know you are with us, Audens.
Q. Fabius
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| Subject: |
Re: Explanations |
| From: |
Mike Macnair MikeMacnair@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 03:58:15 -0500 |
|
"Requirements for being a good Anglican ..."
More in the same theme:
"The Anglican Church is the Tory Party at prayer" (not true anymore but
still says something about what sort of religion people thought it was)
and it used to be said that on enlistment in the British Army recruits
would be asked for their religion. If they said "atheist" the clerk would
write down "Anglican".
Off topic? Well, I think the official paganism of the late Republic and
early Empire (requirements for magistrates to sacrifice etc.) was probably
not unlike the official Anglicanism of England in the late nineteenth
century and down to to 60s. That is to say, public people (politicians &
office holders of all sorts) were expected (and to some extent still are
expected) to participate in public religious ceremonies, because these were
part of the collective public life of the society. Religious affiliation
was presumed to be the official affiliation, but belief was largely a
matter for the individual conscience ...
M. Mucius Scaevola Magister
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| Subject: |
Re: The Birth of Lapis Stone (Secundus Iunius Something-or-other) |
| From: |
amethystcrystallight@--------) |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 02:35:10 -0600 |
|
On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 22:16:18 -0800 Ricci raz--------@-------- writ--------br>
>> No date is certain, but I am going to try to have the surgery
>scheduled
>> for February 15th (a Monday).
>
>Lupercalia!!! That is a good birth day for a boy Roman.
>
>
>Vale,
>Ericius
>
::::::flashing lights and sirens:::::::::
Congratulations Ericius!!!!! For being the first to actually mention
the *day* of the *date* (something like that) you win an all expense paid
trip (by you, of course) to lovely Minnesota in February to house/Terry
sit for me!!!!!!!!
Only kidding (probably) :-)!!!!! The rest of 'em probably figgered I'd
pull something like this to meet Romans/get some help out
here....LOL!!!!!!
Fara Med Godanum! -- Crys and Terry and Lapis Stone (due late Feb.)
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Amethystia Ivnia Crystallina and Primus Ivnia Terrelina
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| Subject: |
In answer to Steph and a decision (cesarian) |
| From: |
amethystcrystallight@--------) |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 03:21:27 -0600 |
|
Salve Parents -- I am going to post this also to my Roman list. They
sorta need to hear this too since they are about the closest I got to
family these days........
>I recall that you are not working and are all alone - why don't you
>move
>elsewhere? Why can't you move to a town with people who can help you
>
>through your pregnancy/post-pregnancy difficulties? Why do you have
>to
>have someone from out of town travel to you - why can't you travel to
>
>them? What is tying you down to such an inhospitable place? I hope I
>
>do not offend - just trying to look at the situation from a different
>
>angle...
>-Steph
>
No offence taken. I just moved here 2 months ago from a homeless shelter
in Minneapolis. I took the place sight unseen and everything, knowing it
was 'inhospitable' (nice word...a bit understated, but....)!! For
various reasons, this was the 13th move I have put Terry through and,
quite frankly, I ain't movin right now!!
As far as having someone come to me...well, I am hoping for volunteers.
My mother has pronounced her schedule too busy to break into and no other
relatives have come forth (and knowing them they won't). I have a friend
or two I am working up the courage to ask if they might come help (it
seems I am always asking for something these days and never giving
anything...sigh), but I haven't yet. When my Pride gets in the way it
REALLY gets in the way!!....sigh
As for moving, even temporarily back to, say, Chicago... If I am gone
more than 2 or 3 weeks in a row, I will be cut off of my aid. Thought
about that one almost first thing.
I have talked to my caseworker and she told me that the state will not
pay for daycare unless it is work related. Whether I go natural or not,
I will be in the hospital at least overnight and cannot afford continuous
day care even for 24 hours. Waseca has a population of about 8800
people. The hospital (and it's precious little more than a clinic)
doesn't offer respite care, nor does the state, not for new moms and
babies anyway. I MIGHT get a nurse to come out once a day for a month or
so after Lapis is born, but that doesn't solve the "What to do with
Terry" problem.
I have a doctors appointment Tuesday and will be asking her to schedule a
c-section for me. I really can't think of any other way. I have prayed
and cried and lost sleep and agonized over this since the day I moved in
here slightly over 2 months ago (when it finally became basically my ONLY
major 'problem'), and I just CANNOT think of another way to go. I don't
WANT to do this, I HAVE to do this.
I sort of feel like I have to apologize for my decision, but I'm not
going to (Pride again).
Fara Med Godanum! -- Crys and Terry and Lapis Stone (due late Feb.)
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| Subject: |
Re: Explanations (too many) |
| From: |
legion6@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 07:13:28 -0600 (CST) |
|
Floria Zonara said:
>Aren't people from other beliefs free to join with those of like mind?
...and MariusFimbria replies:
'Scuze me, but my particular sect of Christianity was declared
heretical several centuries ago. If there are any other Pelagians out
there they are not announcing themselves to me. I have been kicked out
of more churches than you can count without an abacus, so hobnobbing
with the other denoms/nondenoms isn't working too well either...
I did mention something about the 'twin wellsprings of my soul'...I
have no 'fellow' Christians, and I was d**n lucky to find fellow
Romans. To my Roman Pagan friends, I know your pain: I don't have
anywhere else to go either.
>But I am Roman, and I choose to join a Roman group.
...and there is more to being a Roman than being a Roman Pagan. The
Founders realized this and so threw this organization open to those
whose interest in *reviving* Roman culture (no other classics group is
doing this) extends into other areas than the ritual life of the
Republic. I thought I might have something to contribute...
Personally, it was the second blurb on the old splash page that brought
me in: "...because Roman Virtues are more important than 'Family
Values'..."
My Christian walk being the go-figure-it-out-yourself thing that it has
had to be, the Via Romana is the closest thing I have anymore to a Path
or calling, and the only deep thing I know that I can share with
others. It is thanks to Nova Roma that I can say this. The fellowship
here has very quickly become more than precious to me.
Do I have to say this next part plainly? --I understand and appreciate
the vital importance of the Religio Romana to the life, health, and
prosperity of the State. Personally, I think something went out of the
world when Emperor Theo had the Vestal Flame extinguished, and I'm glad
to have it back. I am not going to disrupt the Religio, work against
the Religio, try to abolish the Religio... I'd think the kind of
people who would have a major *problem* with it (as opposed to simply
not taking part) would be incapable of joining Nova Roma in the first
place. I know we need the Religio Romana. I'm glad there are people
practicing it; it's just not my path... I can respectfully attend (but
only attend) a ceremony; my prayers and incense float upwards the same
as anybody else's, and they are for Nova Roma.
Isn't that what's important?
Yours under the Eagles (and a few other numina who seem to think kindly
of me)...
---
__________ _<~) __________
<-\\\\@@@@@) /##\ (@@@@@////-> Märia Villarroel legion6@--------
<-\\\@@@@(#####@@@@///-> Historical Re-Creationist
<-\\\*##*///-> and Citizen of Rome
o---<<<<||SPQR||>>>>---o Latin lessons, History lectures
///\\\ Role-playing Games, too!
aka Lucius Marius Fimbria on the weekends
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| Subject: |
an idea for this list |
| From: |
pjane pjane@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 08:58:23 -0500 (EST) |
|
I'm sure many of you are as dismayed as I am that the list traffic has
gotten so heavy! In a sense, this is a good thing, because it means people
take Nova Roma seriously and care about participating in its communities.
And as we've learned more about each other, we've come to form friendships,
to joke with each other and to be concerned about one another. This is
important to the organization and I don't mean to disparage this
sociability.
But I'm worried that the recent upsurge in traffic has actually discouraged
participation. Who could keep up with all the threads we're spinning?
So I put it to you, the list members: Would it make sense to form a
separate list, called something like novaroma-chat, for our
community-building topics, and keep this list for more serious discussion
of Roman history and the operating of our organization?
I hate to clog the list even further, so if you're just saying "yes, this
is a cool idea" or "no, I'd hate that," e-mail me privately. If you have
more substantive discussion to offer, post it here.
Patricia Cassia
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| Subject: |
Re: Explanations (too many) |
| From: |
Nodigio@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 10:43:24 EST |
|
In a message dated 11/7/98 7:13:39 AM Central Standard Time,
legion6@-------- write--------r>
<< --I understand and appreciate
the vital importance of the Religio Romana to the life, health, and
prosperity of the State. >>
It is not you and your opinions for which I am concerned so much as those
people who have posted that they feel the offices should not be tied to the
performance of the Religio Romana as stated in the Constitution. Because
there is so much to Rome and the Roman Way, there is room for many different
sorts of people. The offices which were created to perform the State
religious observances should stay there. Over time, I'm sure, if there is a
need for it, secular offices will be created which don't require adherance to
performing the ritual observances. When a society becomes large enough,
that's inevitable.
To argue to change a Constitution and alter the offices away from historical
precedent based on modern religious practices defeats the purpose of being in
Nove Roma. If they can historically document that the offices were not tied
to religious performances, then perhaps we should listen. Until then, lacking
documentation, I will support the Constitution as written. It is my
understanding that Rome was home to a variety of religions, but only the
official State religion was observed publiclby the officers of State. Anyone
who has a problem with fulfilling the obligations of the office shouldn't
apply for it - whether their problems rest in religion, qualifications, time,
or finances is irrelevant. Perhaps offices can be created to fulfill the
needs of those who can't meet the qualifications for those already established
offices...... ambassadorships, etc, were not unknown.
Citizenship in Nova Roma means supporting Nova Roma goals and dreams.
Secunda Floria Zonara
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| Subject: |
Res Navalis |
| From: |
Ricci razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 07 Nov 1998 09:15:34 -0800 |
|
Salvete
The following is the URL for a set of ancient galley rules I
found on the net. Tehre seems to be a lot of dice throws, the
ship cards are "reel purty".
The name of the game is Oceanus Strategoi. I'd like to know what
you think of it.
<a href="http://www.netwalk.com/~jkoppe/games/oceanus/oceanu.html" target="_top" >http://www.netwalk.com/~jkoppe/games/oceanus/oceanu.html</a>
Valete.
Caius Aelius Ericius
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| Subject: |
Re: an idea for this list |
| From: |
Ricci razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 07 Nov 1998 09:28:28 -0800 |
|
Hi!
See below, please.
> From: p-------- p--------@--------
>
> I'm sure many of you are as dismayed as I am that the list traffic has
> gotten so heavy! In a sense, this is a good thing, because it means people
> take Nova Roma seriously and care about participating in its communities.
>
> And as we've learned more about each other, we've come to form friendships,
> to joke with each other and to be concerned about one another. This is
> important to the organization and I don't mean to disparage this
> sociability.
>
> But I'm worried that the recent upsurge in traffic has actually discouraged
> participation. Who could keep up with all the threads we're spinning?
>
> So I put it to you, the list members: Would it make sense to form a
> separate list, called something like novaroma-chat, for our
> community-building topics, and keep this list for more serious discussion
> of Roman history and the operating of our organization?
>
> I hate to clog the list even further, so if you're just saying "yes, this
> is a cool idea" or "no, I'd hate that," e-mail me privately. If you have
> more substantive discussion to offer, post it here.
>
> Patricia Cassia
I do not think it would work.
I will undoubtedly say more at another time, probably in discussion, but that
is my basic opinion.
I understand where you're coming from. I've still not caught up on my list
reading, and I'm sure I'm deleting some things I'd other wise stick away on my
copious hard drive, but that's the way it goes. I know I read more of the posts
as a matter of practice than many do.
Can you tell me/us how many are subscribed to the list? I wonder what
proportion of the overall population is involved in this and that.
Vale.
Ericius
|
| Subject: |
list population |
| From: |
pjane pjane@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 13:34:28 -0500 (EST) |
|
Ericius asks:
>Can you tell me/us how many are subscribed to the list? I wonder what
>proportion of the overall population is involved in this and that.
Just 66 people are subscribed to the list, of a population of around 170.
Patricia Cassia
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| Subject: |
Re: an idea for this list |
| From: |
dean6886@--------) |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:58:16 -0600 (CST) |
|
Eventually something is going to have to be done in the way of
getting a seperate list. What happens in another six to eight months
when we have twice as many citizens and people that post often? What of
when there are eight or nine hundred citizens which is inevitable-- its
just how long from now will that be?
In the meanwhile we do have the bulletin board and could ask people
to post some types of info strictly to it. We should be planning ahead
NOW as to what other lists and bulletin areas and eventually even a
second chatroom to make up for the overload before it gets to be too
much for most people and start cancelling subscriptions to the list. I
just thought it was necessary to publicly post this as to give a good
solid arguement as to why we shouldn't wait. I'm sure any other lists we
dvelop will soon take on a life of its own.
Gaius Drusus Domitianus
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| Subject: |
Re: Explanations |
| From: |
"L.Cornelius Sulla" Alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:34:55 -0800 |
|
Dex, I understand your position that NR was founded at first as a religious
organization. BUT, it has taken on other goals as well...We need to account
for our other goals, too. What is most important, Religion, or everything
else. Religion does not have to take a back seat, but an equal seat to our
other goals. No one is going to hinder the growth the the State religion,
well, let me state that I would not hinder the growth the the State
Religion, I would respect all ceremonies that are associated with the State
Religion. However, by forcing all magistrates to comply, you are hindering
the talent that we as citizens who believe in different faiths bring to NR,
thus hindering our ability to achieve our other goals. Separte but equal is
still separate. and it then is not equal. As Brown vs. Board of Education
pointed out. Separate is not equal. Our goals are the same. Growth for
NR, freedom of all faiths. Lets support each other. Not alienate each
other.
Lucius Cornelius Sulla, Quaestor
Candidate for Praetor Urbanis
-----Original Message-----
From: Dexippus@-------- Dexippus@--------
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 7:10 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: Explanations
>From: Dexippus@--------
>
>In a message dated 98-11-06 20:06:30 EST, you write:
>
><< I do not believe that
> you could fulfil a promise to a God which you didn't believe in!
> Could you honestly say, if you weren't a practitioner of the Religio
> Romana, you wouldn't want to stand for office?
> Do you think that is right?
> Look at it from the perspective of people of other beliefs. >>
>
>
>Nocturnia...you are correct, but remember that Nova Roma is a volunteer
>organization. We all volunteered to become citizens and abide by the
>constitution. Not change it once we're in to suit our personal desires or
>wishes.
>
>Nova Roma was founded as a Roman Pagan organization. We have been gracious
to
>open our doors to people of other faiths (as is only right). But I would
dare
>not join the church choir down the street because I want to sing and then
try
>to get them to perform a public Wiccan ritual! It just won't work!
>
>In the same voice...if non-Roman Pagans wish to become citizens of Nova
Roma,
>they are more than welcome to. If they can perform the duties of a
magistrate
>without violating their own personal beliefs, then they are welcome to run
for
>office (note: this may include offering prayer, sacrifice, or offerings to
a
>deity at any given point in time). If they can not do so, then I maintain
>that they abstain from seeking public office.
>
>I, and others, are taking our belief and position of dedication to the
Ancient
>Gods and Goddesses of Rome very seriously. And I would not be too happy to
>find someone in a leadership position who thinks of it nonchalantly (did I
>spell that right?).
>
>--Dexippus
>
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| Subject: |
Re: Explanations |
| From: |
"L.Cornelius Sulla" Alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:42:08 -0800 |
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Romans were known more than just their religion..They have many
contributions to Western Civlization.
Lucius Cornelius Sulla, Quaestor
Candidate for Praetor Urbanis
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From: Nodigio@-------- Nodigio@--------
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 9:42 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: Explanations
>From: Nodigio@--------
>
>In a message dated 11/6/98 7:06:33 PM Central Standard Time,
>iuliacaesaria@-------- writes:
>
><< Look at it from the perspective of people of other beliefs.
> >>
>
>Aren't people from other beliefs free to join with those of like mind?
Were I
>to be a British Celtic Revivalist, I would join Celtic groups, and were I
to
>be a Christian, I'd join Christian oriented groups, and were I to be
Nordic,
>I'd join the assorted Asatru groups.... But I am Roman, and I choose to
join
>a Roman group. It's the same as if I were to go back to college and join
the
>Chess Club - they'd frown on me trying to insist that Snakes and Ladders
was
>an appropriate game for the chessplayers, and what they would do if I tried
to
>introduce dicing or tea leaf reading! The same applies here. The
Consitution
>is available for all to read, and it clearly states that the Religio Romana
is
>the primary reason for the founding of Nova Roma.
>
>If you wish to follow another religion - there are plenty of other
>micronations and groups out there to join. If you are interested in things
>Roman and of the Religio Romana, then Nova Roma is the place to be
(Greeeeen
>Acres! sorry!).
>
>Secunda Floria Zonara
>
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| Subject: |
Re: an idea for this list |
| From: |
JoeBloch@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 18:03:58 EST |
|
In a message dated 98-11-07 13:58:21 EST, you write:
> We should be planning ahead
> NOW as to what other lists and bulletin areas and eventually even a
> second chatroom to make up for the overload before it gets to be too
> much for most people and start cancelling subscriptions to the list.
I quite agree. I think it's valuable to have a general-discussion list like
this one, but once our population (and public interest) grows to an
appropriate size, we're going to need some more topic-specific lists. Just off
the top of my head, I can see:
- Religio_Romana-L (for things pertaining to Roman paganism specifically)
- History-L (for questions about Roman history)
- Reenactments-L (for announcements, tips, recipies, how-to's, etc. for
reenactors)
- Politics-L (for electioneering, discussions of upcoming laws and votes,
etc.)
I would also think that various Collegia would want their own lists, if only
to inform their members of happenings. Perhaps a list for each Provincia would
be in order, too.
Now, I doubt that we're at the stage where we'd need all of these right away,
but I can see us needing them perhaps in the next year. I know I'd subscribe
to all of them, at least at the onset. It's the kind of thing we can grow
into, and remember that subscribing to five lists, each carrying 20% of the
current traffic, is no different than our current situation. (It has the added
bonus of letting folks who don't care about the religious stuff tune it out,
and so on.)
Does our current ISP have a mailer-daemon or listserv? Usually it costs extra
(I know it did on our old ISP), but it could be worth it.
Vale,
Flavius Vedius Germanicus
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| Subject: |
Re: Explanations |
| From: |
dean6886@--------) |
| Date: |
Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:10:27 -0600 (CST) |
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Other goals- interesting, but exactly what goals other than forming
the basis of a Religio Romana nation/state and informational resource
that citizens can access in order to pursue hobbies such as history,
reenactment, etc. I don't think anyone needs to be isolated since if a
person were let's say a devout Christian opposed to all other forms of
worship they wouldn't be here.
There is a distinction made between public and private worship. If
someone can accept offering a pinch of incense and stand at a
ceremony/ritual honoring the very real Gods and Goddesses of the Religio
Romana and yet have their belief in a Christian god or a Hindu
god/goddess or whatever the case may be in that persons private life
then there is no conflict of interest in becoming a magistrate. It
really depends on the moderation of one's own viewpoint of the divine.
Being respectful toward the Religio. I think that the entire pagan
community here is kind of wary of someone not taking the Religio Romana
with any seriousness at all and being elected to an important office- or
worse trying to actively thwart it. That is why an oath is taken when
one is elected to the gods. Just something I was thinking about today.
Gaius Drusus Domitianus
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| Subject: |
Re: an idea for this list |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 07 Nov 1998 18:32:50 -0500 |
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Ira Adams wrote:
> Salve, Gaius Drusus.
>
> I personally find the bulletin board so slow and awkward to use that I
> rarely even go there. I don't think it can substitute well for any
> function of the mailing list.
>
> Just one Roman's opinion, of course.
And add another Roman's to that.
The bulletin board COULD be one of the liveliest part of NR if it
didn't have those maddening limitations. As it is, I don't use it much,
either. If we had another provider or different software, most of the
conversations that take place on the list would probably transfer easily
to the board. Message boards are more appropriate for this purpose
anyway, since you can pick and choose what you want to read without
having to download all of it.
The Mystery Writer's Forum has a wonderful board. If the NR tech
people want to know more about it, e-mail me.
-- Flavia Claudia
>
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| Subject: |
Re: Explanations (too many) |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:13:23 -0800 |
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Salus et Fortuna Marius Fimbria:
I think that your statement was well written. I always found the Arian
"Heresy" to be of interest, it seemed the most Germanic of the varients
of early Christianity to me. (Basic tenet: Jesus was not of the same
substance as God, but a created being exalted above all others.) As you
know, this did not become my Religion.
I think of you as a Roman first, last and always. I'm glad you're here.
And despite what is written about your soloness, here's another infantry
type to stand aside you in the shield line.
Vale Amica Mea, Venator
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| Subject: |
Re: Venit Concordia! (Thank you was Explanations) |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:02:50 -0800 |
|
Waes Hael Ericius!
>
> From: Ricci raz--------@--------
>
> Thank the Guardians of Civilizations! Another Yankee! (I don't want to be the
> only one getting shot at.)
>
> Ericius
>
Then there's those like me, relatives both sides of the line. I'll just
go visit the Societas Helvetica* for the duration.
Bis Spater, Venator
*Switzerland
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