| Subject: |
Re: Can anyone help a school kid who's NOT on the list? |
| From: |
Nodigio@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:01:08 EST |
|
>Could you please send me, or post to the list, the sites you referred "the
kid"
>to?
Here is the main paragraph of what I sent:
" If you have Internet access, these 3 sites are a good starting place:
<A HREF="<a href="http://members.aol.com/AACTchrOz/romans.html">Ancient" target="_top" >http://members.aol.com/AACTchrOz/romans.html">Ancient</a> Rome</A> (http:
//members.aol.com/AACTchrOz/romans.html),
<A HREF="<a href="http://fizz.sys.uea.ac.uk/Research/researchareas/JWMP/ostia/ROMARCH.h" target="_top" >http://fizz.sys.uea.ac.uk/Research/researchareas/JWMP/ostia/ROMARCH.h</a>
tml">Roman Research</A>,
(<a href="http://fizz.sys.uea.ac.uk/Research/researchareas/JWMP/ostia/ROMARCH.html" target="_top" >http://fizz.sys.uea.ac.uk/Research/researchareas/JWMP/ostia/ROMARCH.html</a>),
<A HREF="<a href="http://www.fairacre.demon.co.uk/Ancient-World/Rome/Rome.htm">Rome</A" target="_top" >http://www.fairacre.demon.co.uk/Ancient-World/Rome/Rome.htm">Rome</A</a>>
(<a href="http://www.fairacre.demon.co.uk/Ancient-World/Rome/Rome.htm" target="_top" >http://www.fairacre.demon.co.uk/Ancient-World/Rome/Rome.htm</a>). These sites
may also prove useful:
<A HREF="<a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6946/rome.html">Forum" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6946/rome.html">Forum</a> Romanum
</A> (<a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6946/rome.html" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6946/rome.html</a>) , and
<A HREF="<a href="http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/vatican.exhibit/exhibit/b" target="_top" >http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/vatican.exhibit/exhibit/b</a>-
archeology/Archaeology.html">Learning to Read Rome's Ruins</A>
(<a href="http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/vatican.exhibit/exhibit/b" target="_top" >http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/vatican.exhibit/exhibit/b</a>-
archeology/Archaeology.html). You may also consider putting the words
"Parthenon", "Roman History", and Roman Architecture" into a search engine and
browse through the results."
These are only a small part of the sites I visit, and I selected them because
they seemed best able to fulfill the needs he expressed in his email.
Vale
Secunda Floria Zonara
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| Subject: |
Official Beverage |
| From: |
Nodigio@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:14:48 EST |
|
>>Now as far as the Official Beverage of Nova Roma, I vote for mead.
I second that vote - and here's my choice of mead. Share it happily.
Chocolate Mead
15 pounds morose and moody dark honey
3 gallons spring water
1 teaspoon Vegemite (this is the important secret ingredient - get it from an
Australian import store. Marmite, from England isn't as good, but will do if
that's all you can find)
2 tablespoons strong brewed black tea
1 teaspoon acid blend (citric, tartaric and malic acid mix)
15 inches stick cinnamon
3 whole cloves
10 pink peppercorns
1/2 vanilla pod
1 package Epernay 2 yeast (try not to use any other, this one produces the
strongest flavor of chocolate when done)
1 cup pure chocolate extract (make your own if you can get ripe cocoa beans)
Gently heat the honey in a large enamelled pot, add 1 gallon spring water.
When the honey is just below the first boiling point (at 110 degrees), stir in
teh Vegemite, acid blend, and tea. Skim all the foam that rises to the top.
Continue to heat gently until the foaming stops. Pour carefully into a food
grade plastic bucket large enough to hold at least 6 gallons. Add enough cold
spring water to equal 5 gallons with the honey. the spices into
a bag and toss into the honey. When the honey is cooled to 85 degrees,
dissolve the yeast in 1/4 cup 85 degree water, then stir vigorously into the
honey. Be very vigorous - the better you stir it here, the better the mead
will finish. Cover the bucket with a cheesecloth lid and wrap in several
blankets. Leave it completely alone for 2 weeks. When you unwrap the mead,
don't be shocked at the stuff floating on the top - it's just flocculation
(dead yeast beasties). Carefully siphon the incipient mead into a 5 gallon
glass carboy. Try not to get any flocculation, spices, or bottom sludge into
the carboy. Pour in the chocolate extract. attach a fermentation lock. Let
it ferment until the mead clears to a nice amber color. It may glow slightly
red in a good light. At that point, when the mead becomes clear (usually
about a month), it's ready to bottle. For an extra chocolate zing,
put 1/2 teaspoon chocolate extract into each bottle before adding the mead and
capping. Let it sit for at least a year in a cool dark place (the back of a
refrigerator is great - a root cellar is just as good - a wine cellar is
excellent). Try not to drink it before then - the chocolate needs time to
mellow into the mead. Keep it cool because this mead DOES have a tendency to
explode when warm. After 3 years, it tends to get bitter. So you have
a window of 14 months to 36 months to drink it. It won't last that long,
though. Start a new batch every 3 months and you shouldn't run out.
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| Subject: |
Re: Official Beverage |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:45:01 -0500 |
|
Nodigio@-------- wrote:
>
> From: Nodigio@--------
>
> >>Now as far as the Official Beverage of Nova Roma, I vote for mead.
>
> I second that vote - and here's my choice of mead. Share it happily.
>
> Chocolate Mead
>
> 15 pounds morose and moody dark honey
Is it okay if it's just depressed?
-- Flavia Claudia
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| Subject: |
Re: Official Beverage |
| From: |
Nodigio@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 01:13:47 EST |
|
In a message dated 11/13/98 11:47:22 PM Central Standard Time,
m--------oon@-------- wr--------:
> > 15 pounds morose and moody dark honey
>
> Is it okay if it's just depressed?
>
Oh, I suppose - but the really dark honey that looks like chocolate amber,
almost a translucent molasses color, has a richer flavor that blends well with
the chocolate. Any paler honey might be overwhelmed.
Secunda Floria Zonara
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| Subject: |
Venator on the Current Buzzzzzzzzzzz! |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:18:25 -0800 |
|
Salvete Omnes, S. Ullerius Venator scriberus!
As of 11:00 PM CST, I have not seen the Senatus Consulta applicable to
the current discussion posted to the Nova Roma web site.
Okay, time to skip the niceties of language. I am on the side of Nova
Roma, not on any one person, though I have friends on both sides of the
political/constitutional debate sweeping the list. I have made some
sacrifices; of time, energy and personal credibility in my Faith
Community to be here. I ask and pose the following...
Have the Censors done their Constitutional Duty and assigned new
Citizens as they've come aboard to Centuries and Tribes? If not, why
not? (Personal circumstances can be extenuating, no details, but some
explanation is needed.)
Is there a list, which can be disseminated, detailing the above?
Was the sudden resignation of one of the co-founders an extenuating
circumstance? (And did it affect the deliberative process of the Senate
and administrative duties of the Consuls and Censors, while filling in
the blanks in the government?)
If the Comitia Centuriata existed in August for the (then) Consul
Germanicus' Constitutional fixes (needed in my opinion), do they not
exist now?
If the population gives us "1.7" Citizens per Century, can not the
Centuries with more than 1n be prodded into electing their Speaker so
the process of the Election proceeds apace and as prescribed in the
Constitution?
As personages in our government have unhappy personal circumstances with
which to deal, I think it prudent to keep the 'signal to noise' ratio at
a minimum. I don't think anyone of us here in Nova Rome is expecting
any measure of personal aggrandizement from involvement here. This is
an organization of people in voluntary involvement with each other.
Granted, there are those who have spent much more resources (mental and
financial) than the vast majority of those on the Citizenship roles.
There are those with an almose parental feeling fo this 'child of
interest, intellect and pasion'. But, we are, in accordance to what I
understand the Constitution and other founding Documents/Web Statements
to be, trying to found a Res Publica on the PAGAN Roman model here, with
the addition of many able non-Pagans in the mix (some of who I am Proud
to name as Friend!).
Sulla brings up the lack of a "Supremacy" clause in the Constitution.
The counter is made. I think, that in the light of the modern
sensibilities (and they do exist in spite of our prostestations), this
would be a useful clausal addition. But not now, before the first
election to CHOOSE leaders, rather than follow the visionaries who
brought us Nova Roma in the first place.
Germanicus brings up the point that the Constitution is Supreme, in and
of itself. Historically valid, but again contrary to the feelings,
modernly informed, with which a majority of the Citizenry were reared.
(This acknowledges the pointed out majority of the current Citizenry
from the United States.)
Neither side is totally correct, nor incorrect. The Senate MUST use its
Constitutional authorities, wisely and prudently, to see thaat these
first elections go off on time. The FIRST, FULL year's government can,
with the consent of the People, make the necessary changes so that
"streamlining" is never again necessary.
It is no coincidence, I think, that Nova Roma's first year is actually
nine months. Birth, as I'm sure our dear Amethyst amongst others will
tell you, is not pain nor joy free. We are a Nation aborning. Let us,
as the new equivalents of Romulus and Remus, strive to bring into the
world a strong infant. It is up to us to properly educate that child,
shape that child and guide that child, so that the world will know - We
did good.
Nil Plus -
Valete, Venator
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| Subject: |
Re: Venator on the Current Buzzzzzzzzzzz! |
| From: |
amethystcrystallight@--------) |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 04:34:37 -0600 |
|
On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:18:25 -0800 Mega--------bin--------amgunn@--------
writes:
>It is no coincidence, I think, that Nova Roma's first year is
>actually
>nine months. Birth, as I'm sure our dear Amethyst amongst others
>will
>tell you, is not pain nor joy free. We are a Nation aborning. Let
>us,
>as the new equivalents of Romulus and Remus, strive to bring into the
>world a strong infant. It is up to us to properly educate that
>child,
>shape that child and guide that child, so that the world will know -
>We
>did good.
>
>Nil Plus -
>
>Valete, Venator
>
Since I got brought up by name (grumble, grumble), I thought I'd better
pipe up a *very* little.
I won't even *pretend* to understand politics, *or* what all this
bickering is about. I'm just glad that it, for the first time, actually
isn't making me nervous. I *do*, however have a question.
I'm no expert, but wasn't the Ancient Roman calender 9 months long? I
*know* it wasn't 12 months long. Could be I'm fixated on 9 months (go
figger), but I seem to remember something like the *original* calender
being 9 months. Anyway, if that's the case, then the year is up, right?
I'm afraid I don't really understand all this Constitution stuff, but I'm
afraid I don't see all the fuss in a 'one time change' or whatever it is.
Now, come next year, next election, if the same stunt gets pulled again,
then there would be plenty of reason to get all upset. Nova Roma *is* an
infant, quite literally. At 9 months old, *my* baby was sitting up
unaided, just beginning to eat soft baby food and just starting to show
interest in the world around her. She didn't walk until she was 2 days
past her 1st birthday. I *know* I'm not the only one around here with
children (although mine may very well be the youngest), but even those
among us with *no* children know you don't expect a 9 month old to walk
up to you and start reciting Ovid. I think concessions need to be made.
If Nova Roma needs it right now, get it a high chair and spoon feed it!!
In a year, let it eat alone, it'll be old enough. If it isn't, theres
something wrong either with the child or the parents!
Trying to keep it simple (if that is possible in politics).
Fara Med Godanum! -- Crys and Terry and Lapis Stone (due late Feb.)
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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| Subject: |
Re: Venator on the Current Buzzzzzzzzzzz! |
| From: |
Nodigio@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:56:21 EST |
|
In a message dated 11/14/98 4:47:13 AM Central Standard Time,
amethystcrystallight@-------- writes:
> I'm no expert, but wasn't the Ancient Roman calender 9 months long? I
> *know* it wasn't 12 months long.
It was 10 months - and here are 2 very good sites about the Ancient Roman
calendar.....
<A HREF="<a href="http://ghs1.greenheart.com/billh/earlyrom.html">Roman" target="_top" >http://ghs1.greenheart.com/billh/earlyrom.html">Roman</a> Calendars from
Romulus to Julius Caesar</A> ,
(<a href="http://ghs1.greenheart.com/billh/earlyrom.html" target="_top" >http://ghs1.greenheart.com/billh/earlyrom.html</a>)
<A HREF="<a href="http://www.clubs.psu.edu/aegsa/rome/romec.html">Roman" target="_top" >http://www.clubs.psu.edu/aegsa/rome/romec.html">Roman</a> Calendar</A>
(<a href="http://www.clubs.psu.edu/aegsa/rome/romec.html" target="_top" >http://www.clubs.psu.edu/aegsa/rome/romec.html</a>)
Secunda Floria Zonara
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| Subject: |
To Amethystia, was Venator on the Current Buzzzzzzzzzzz! |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:57:45 -0800 |
|
Health and Luck Amethystia Ivnia, my Friend!
I hereby publically apologize for bringing you into this. You are the
only Mother-to-Be I know right now and I hoped to make a comparison that
would have some sense to it.
I see in the temper and words of your reply, that you do have a Sterling
understanding of what I was trying to say.
On another matter, I've located the coloring and activity books, I'll go
over them and make some Roman appropriate notes. When ready to send,
I'll let you know.
In Peace and Friendship - Venator
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| Subject: |
Venator on the Current Buzzzzzzzzzzz! |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:50:38 -0800 |
|
Salvete Omnes, S. Ullerius Venator scriberus!
>
> Is there a list, which can be disseminated, detailing the above?
>
I should have written " ...a list pertaining to reasons dealing with
Nova Roma,... " I apologize if I seemed to be prying into personal
lives here.
Nil Plus -
In Pacem et Amicus, Valete - Venator
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| Subject: |
Re: Elections and the Constitution |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:03:21 EST |
|
I believe it was a young Leonard Nimoy who once said..."Fascinating!"
--Dexippus
|
| Subject: |
Last-minute candidacy for Praetor Urbanus:M.Mucius Scaevola Magister |
| From: |
Mike Macnair MikeMacnair@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:07:21 -0500 |
|
This is a last-minute announcement of candidacy for the office of Praetor
Urbanus.
I have decided to stand at this late date because of the course of recent
discussions on the mailing list. The Praetores Urbani have particular
responsibility for juris dictio, the making and interpretation of the law,
and it is therefore important that those elected should have a sound
principled approach to the role of the law and the constitution. What I
think is as follows:
1) constitutional government is not ultimately a matter of
legal mechanisms to secure compliance with the constitution, but of a
political culture which is committed to acting constitutionally. With such
a culture even the lack of a written constitution is no bar to
constitutional government, as can be seen from the history of Roma antiqua
before the first century BCE and that of eighteenth and nineteenth century
England. Without a political constitutionalist culture, supremacy clauses,
supreme or constitutional courts, etc., are worthless, as can be seen from
the recent experience of Russia and many other "third world" countries. The
praetores urbani should show commitment to "doing it constitutionally" if
it is at all possible, even if it is inconvenient, and should foster such a
commitment among Senate and People, whether patrician or plebeian.
2) It is only possible to have a constitutionalist culture if
the state, and state officials, are committed to values which stand above
the strength and security of the state itself. The immediate "pragmatic"
demands of state security naturally tend to undermine the limits on state
power imposed by constitutional government and the rule of law: thus it is
common knowledge that the illegal response of the Senate to the Gracchi set
in motion the decay of confidence in government under law which ultimately
led, via the usurpations of Marius and Sulla, to the fall of the Republic.
For Roma Antiqua the values of pietas and libertas were fundamental to the
stability of the res publica, and so they should be to Nova Roma - as our
constitution expresses that the Religio Romana is part of the foundations
of our nation. Again, it is part of the role of the Praetores Urbani to
uphold these underlying values of the res publica.
As to my personal qualifications for the post of Praetor Urbanus: in my
professional life I teach law at an English University, a career I have
been in for the last sixteen years. I studied Roman Law in my first,
undergraduate, law degree, and have in one of my past posts taught the
roman law of contracts and delicts (torts); and one of my major research
interests is the influence of the roman law-based civil law tradition on
the historical development of the Anglo-American common law. I can
therefore offer a fair level of familiarity with the structures and basic
concepts of roman law which may be of value in the drafting of proposed
leges Novae Romae.
I would also suggest that the Praetors should offer citizens the
facility of, if they choose, drafting agreements or settling minor disputes
among themselves according to roman law principles.
I should add that geography and time zones would make it relatively
easy for me to work collaboratively with one of the other candidates for
Praetor Urbanus, Q. Claudia Lucentia Aprica. However, I haven't discussed
my candidacy with Aprica, and for all I know she may oppose it!
I ask your support, citizens, for a principled vision of the role of the
praetores which can nurture constitutional government in our young state.
M. Mucius Scaevola Magister
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| Subject: |
Re: My language is my country |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:11:59 EST |
|
In --------ss--------d-------- 11/13/98 4:44:58 PM EST, JoeBloch@-------- writes:
<< Actually, at one point, we were negotiating with a place that does on-line
Latin classes. They wouldn't give our Citizens so much as a 5% tuition break
to promote their wares on our web site >>
Damn those bitches!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Official Beverage (was Re: [novaroma] Re: My language is my co... |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:15:32 EST |
|
In --------ss--------d-------- 11/13/98 4:59:23 PM EST, JoeBloch@-------- writes:
<< Welllll I'd probably hold out for Latin rather than Valley-Girl (although
Klingon has some appeal...).
Now as far as the Official Beverage of Nova Roma, I vote for mead. >>
I'm cool with either Klingon or Romulan. Mead....definately Mead!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Octavian? |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:16:47 EST |
|
In a message dated 11/13/98 5:10:56 PM EST, m--------oon@-------- wr--------:
<< Is it getting hot in here? Where are those slaves with the peacock feather
fans? >>
Ooooo...girl! Raise the Roof!
Unichs! Unichs! Fan me down, oh Unichs!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Elections and the Constitution |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:19:02 EST |
|
In a message dated 11/13/98 5:12:41 PM EST, m--------oon@-------- wr--------:
<< Dex, I think it was explained that it didn't even come up for a vote until
today, and was originally proposed on the 11th. Germanicus just jumped in
before the Senate had a chance to post. >>
Ah...ok. So what's the problem? The senate should bring it to a vote, we'll
vote, and we'll be done with it.
Ok...next topic...Romans who date Gaults! Today...on Oprus!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Constitutional crisis? |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:22:16 EST |
|
In a m--------g--------t--------1/13/98 5:51:36 PM EST, iadams@-------- writ--------br>
<< I call upon the Senate to proceed in accordance with the Constitution,
either by lawfully amending the Constitution by the process provided, or
by carrying out the voting procedure called for, or perhaps, as has been
suggested, by lawful appointment of a dictator to resolve the current
problem (although personally I think this last would be somewhat extreme
and possibly set an unwelcome precedent). >>
Ok...let's not go with a Dictator. There are too many hot-heads right now.
Where are the Senators during this debate? I've been flumming through e-mail
so quick, I don't know who is speaking. Have they made any statement on this
accusation? What are next steps? Let's be done with it already!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Official Beverage (was Re: [novaroma] Re: My language is m... |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:23:00 EST |
|
In a message da--------11/13/98 6:05:52 PM EST, moman@-------- wri--------
<< The Official Game is no doubt the one in which the mallet-wielding
player must mercilessly batter a gopher randomly popping out of the
holes in a box. If it isn't, then I suggest it be, since it's not
only great for relieving stress but also quite demonstrative of NR
politics. >>
Fierce! That's all there is to say...simply Fierce!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Official Beverage (was Re: [novaroma] Re: My language is m... |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:24:31 EST |
|
In a message da--------11/13/98 7:29:54 PM EST, moman@-------- wri--------
<< I don't know, Germanicus... Do you really think you can handle
our Vestal Virgin, armed only with a net and trident? :) >>
You know how those Vestals are...all that stored up energy just waiting to be
released! I hear they have the strength of 20 men!
--Dexippus
<<Lova ya Flavia!>>
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| Subject: |
Re: Elections and the Constitution |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:29:27 EST |
|
In --------ss--------d-------- 11/13/98 8:38:07 PM EST, JoeBloch@-------- writes:
<< If you want to support the Senate in their usurpation of
the rights of the people, then go ahead. >>
Ok...perhaps I don't understand the whole politic of Rome, but is this really
a usurpation of the rights of the people? Where in lies the difference
whether this year (due to time and such) that citizens vote in centuries and
tribes or directly as individuals? Isn't the voting process still reserved?
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Elections and the Constitution |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:31:57 EST |
|
In --------ss--------d-------- 11/13/98 8:41:27 PM EST, JoeBloch@-------- writes:
<< Back to law school with you, Sulla. You need to learn the value of common
sense.
>>
Gods...I haven't seen this much action since those two Drag Queens started
ripping each other's wigs off at the Colosseum (a Night-Club in S. Jersey..not
the Circus Maximus) while competing for the Queen of Hearts Pagaent!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Elections and the Constitution |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:33:36 EST |
|
In a m--------g--------t--------1/13/98 8:43:22 PM EST, Al--------us@-------- writ--------br>
<< Germanicus..change hardly
ever begins at the bottom..but at the middle or Top..>>
Not necessarily...there are Grass-Root campaigns that bring about change.
<<So..if you are so much with the People Germanicus..when are you going to
become a Pleb and run for Tribune of the Plebs to "protect" the people from
the Senate? >>
Hmmm...is Gens Vedia now a Plebeian Gens? How else would Germanicus be able
to run as Tribune of the Plebs?
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: nasty, nasty, nasty no more |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:47:20 -0500 |
|
Dexippus@-------- wrote:
>
> From: Dexippus@--------
>
&g--------n a message da--------11/13/98 7:29:54 PM EST, moman@-------- wri--------
>
> << I don't know, Germanicus... Do you really think you can handle
> our Vestal Virgin, armed only with a net and trident? :) >>
>
> You know how those Vestals are...all that stored up energy just waiting to be
> released! I hear they have the strength of 20 men!
>
> --Dexippus
> <<Lova ya Flavia!>>
>
And the tempers of 40 gladiators!
I'm am so relieved and happy to say that Germanicus and I were both in
the chat room and Imentioned how I would be real, REAL happy if we could
turn back the clock and take back a lot, and he said he wished the same
thing, and we both said, so...how about it? And he called me and we
cleared a bunch of personal and a few political issues. Not many
political issues! We agree just about as much as Bill Clinton and Newt
Gingrich (and I ain't saying who's who!) on politics. But we did agree
that our personal quarrels were just gettin' ugly and we didn't even
know how it got started in the first place when we'd formerly been
friendly.
So I owe everybody on the list a real Mea Culpa. Politically, I still
think I'm right and he thinks he's right and that's the beauty of the
Roman Way.
I tried to blame it on PMS, but I don't think he bought it.
-- Flavia Claudia
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| Subject: |
Re: Official Beverages |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:53:44 -0500 |
|
Megas-Robinson wrote:
>
> From: Mega--------bin--------amgunn@--------
>
> Valete Omnes, Strenuus Salus et Bona Fortuna!
>
> I would offer that the official beverages (as we have imbibing and
> non-imbibing Citizens) be Pyment {a Mead made from Honey and Grapes} and
> Grape Juice, either of which lend themselves to Mulling (the flavoring
> with spices of a warmed beverage). To that end I offer, a Mulling
> recipe.
>
Dammit, Venator! Will you QUIT posting these terrific recipes on the
list when you KNOW I have a newsletter to fill!!!
> VENATOR PRO QUAESTOR! PRAESCRIPTUM PRO OMNES! SUCCESS PRO NOVA ROMA!
> RES PUBLICA, NIL OLIGARCHIA! AMICUS, NIL CHAO!
> POPULI PRO SENATUS! SENATUS PRO POPULI! OMNES PRO IUS!
>
Pretttttty sneaky to slide that political announcement in there just
when you've got our attention!
-- F. Claudai
|
| Subject: |
Taverna Lemures |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:00:53 -0800 |
|
Salvete, Omnes!
Flavia - one of the Lemures followed me home the other night after I
finished tidying up.
Valete - Venator
|
| Subject: |
Re: Official Beverages |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:10:42 -0800 |
|
Hej Flavia! Good Health and Luck to You!
> >
> > Valete Omnes, Strenuus Salus et Bona Fortuna!
> >
> > I would offer that the official beverages (as we have imbibing and
> > non-imbibing Citizens) be Pyment {a Mead made from Honey and Grapes}
> > and Grape Juice, either of which lend themselves to Mulling (the
> > flavoring with spices of a warmed beverage). To that end I offer, a
> > Mulling recipe.
> >
> Dammit, Venator! Will you QUIT posting these terrific recipes on the
> list when you KNOW I have a newsletter to fill!!!
>
An Editor complaining of a possible backlog of useful material!? (These
posts won't stay here for future subscribers to see.) But, I did state
in a message that I'll continue to post good recipes here, and better
ones to the Eagle (he, he, he)! (Feeling too thin? Into Positive
Visualization? GAIN WEIGHT NOW BY READING THE VENATOR DIET, it's heavy
reading!)
>
> > VENATOR PRO QUAESTOR! PRAESCRIPTUM PRO OMNES!
> > SUCCESS PRO NOVA ROMA!
> > RES PUBLICA, NIL OLIGARCHIA! AMICUS, NIL CHAO!
> > POPULI PRO SENATUS! SENATUS PRO POPULI! OMNES PRO IUS!
> >
> Pretttttty sneaky to slide that political announcement in there just
> when you've got our attention!
>
> -- F. Claudai
>
Well, I was in Special Ops for a few years >({;{)
Vale, Benedictus, Pacem et Amicus! -Venator
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| Subject: |
Re: Taverna Lemures |
| From: |
Claudia missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:34:11 -0500 |
|
Megas-Robinson wrote:
>
> Salvete, Omnes!
>
> Flavia - one of the Lemures followed me home the other night after I
> finished tidying up.
>
> Valete - Venator
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> [Image]
LOVED IT!!!!!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: To Amethystia, was Venator on the Current Buzzzzzzzzzzz! |
| From: |
amethystcrystallight@--------) |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:32:16 -0600 |
|
On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:57:45 -0800 Mega--------bin--------amgunn@--------
writes:
>From: Mega--------bin--------amgunn@--------
>
>Health and Luck Amethystia Ivnia, my Friend!
>
>I hereby publically apologize for bringing you into this. You are
>the
>only Mother-to-Be I know right now and I hoped to make a comparison
>that
>would have some sense to it.
>
>I see in the temper and words of your reply, that you do have a
>Sterling
>understanding of what I was trying to say.
Gee, I wasn't mad at you. It just gets a bit tiresome listening to the
same arguement over and over, especially when it's all 'Greek' to me!! I
thought the infant point was well made. Heck, at least I could
UNDERSTAND most of your post. <G>
>
>On another matter, I've located the coloring and activity books, I'll
>go
>over them and make some Roman appropriate notes. When ready to send,
>I'll let you know.
>
>In Peace and Friendship - Venator
>
Good deal. I won't be moving until after the elections anyway.
Fara Med Godanum! -- Crys and Terry and Lapis Stone (due late Feb.)
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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| Subject: |
Re: Official Beverages |
| From: |
amethystcrystallight@--------) |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:43:33 -0600 |
|
On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:10:42 -0800 Mega--------bin--------amgunn@--------
writes:
>(Feeling too thin? Into Positive
>Visualization? GAIN WEIGHT NOW BY READING THE VENATOR DIET, it's
>heavy
>reading!)
>>
That's what I need.....more weight!!! I've only gained 15 pounds so far.
A far cry from the 57 I gained with Terry. WHERES THE DOUBLE CHOCOLATE
BROWNIE CHEESECAKE RECIPE??????????????
Fara Med Godanum! -- Crys and Terry and Lapis Stone (due late Feb.)
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| Subject: |
Re: Elections and the Constitution |
| From: |
Ricci razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:55:18 -0800 |
|
Dexippus@-------- wrote:
> Gods...I haven't seen this much action since those two Drag Queens started
> ripping each other's wigs off at the Colosseum (a Night-Club in S. Jersey..not
> the Circus Maximus) while competing for the Queen of Hearts Pagaent!
>
> --Dexippus
Oh, dear! And those wigs are costly.
Ericius.
|
| Subject: |
Exhibition: "Follonica, Etrusca" |
| From: |
SFP55@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:19:09 EST |
|
To all warring Romans:
Remembering that we are also about Roman history and culture, may I suggest
that those interested check out Ivan Boni's exhibition of
"Follonica Etrusca." It will be up until the 31th of December 1998.
"The Archeologia Italiana" site is at <a href="http://www.archeologia.com" target="_top" >http://www.archeologia.com</a>
Valete!
Q. Fabius
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| Subject: |
Re: Taverna Lemures |
| From: |
"A. Iulia" iuliacaesaria@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:50:56 -0800 (PST) |
|
Salvete quirites!
Veni, you mean you cleared up for me?
Thank you very much, Hysterion would'a killed me!!
*Whispers so that no Patricians, especially Sulla can hear* Wouldn't
see any of those nasty Patricians doing that!!
*Smiles innocently*
Valete
Noct'a
In deep humble gratitude to the lone Hero who saved her from Bill
Gates' wrath
---Claud----------------oon@-------- wrote:
>
> From: Claud----------------oon@--------
>
> Megas-Robinson wrote:
> >
> > Salvete, Omnes!
> >
> > Flavia - one of the Lemures followed me home the other night after I
> > finished tidying up.
> >
> > Valete - Venator
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > [Image]
> LOVED IT!!!!!!!
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: Elections and the Constitution |
| From: |
Diana/Orbianna proserpina@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:20:18 -0500 |
|
At 14:16 13/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>From: m--------oon@--------
>
>This is in reply to Germanicus' posting on the list, which was long, and I
won't
>quote it here.
>
>
>For those of you who don't understand the concept of the Voting Tribes and
>Centuries -- and I didn't until recently -- think of it as the U.S. House of
>Representatives. Each of us is assigned to voting tribe, like a State.
Within our
>Tribe, we elect a spokesman or representative to speak for us and vote on
the laws
>proposed by the Senate. We're also assigned to a Century, where we also
choose our
>spokesmen. In the old days of Rome, this was because most people could not
take
>the time needed to hike all the way into Rome itself to keep up with
politics --
>no sound bites, no TV debates, no Latium-to-Rome shuttle flights -- so they
>elected representatives who'd stay in Rome, hang out at the forum, and
keep up.
>This should sound real familiar to you Americans, particularly.
>
>Right now, there just has not been time to assign everyone to a Tribe and a
>Century and let us elect our representatives to vote on laws, etc. So
instead of
>letting our spokesman vote for us in the matter of changing the law --
because we
>don't HAVE any spokemen yet -- the Senate used their Constitional power to
allow
>us to vote independently in these elections.
>
>I don't see this as a power grab, and I don't see it happening again. Yes,
the
>Senate could have acted earlier to form the Tribes and Centuries, but
let's face
>it: we're growing REAL fast and the Senators have jobs and lives outside
of Nova
>Roma, just like the rest of us. NR's not even a year old. We've had to
deal with
>heated religious debates, a big influx of new Citizens, the complete
resignation
>of a Consul, and a lot more. The Senate, like the rest of us, can't do
everything
>at once, so I have confidence that they're doing the best they can.
>
>I do hope that this latest development won't cause a general panic on the
list.
>Really, it isn't anything serious. Nova Roma has a considerable number of
people
>who LOVE the intricacies and Machiavellian maneuvers of Roman politics,
and this
>is a great example! I, for one, think it's pretty interesting and
educational.
>Some of us joined for the religion, some for the re-enactments, some for the
>history...and some for the wonderfully emotional recreation of the Roman
political
>world. Beats sitting at home watching the History Channel!
>
>-- Flavia Claudia
Thank you so much for this clarification, fair Vestal and teacher. I think
we all needed this. Thanks for sharing what you have learned.
Moribus antiquis res stat Romnana virisque -Ennius
Orbianna
Iustina Luciania Orbianna
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