Subject:	Re: Is Consul Cassius Ok? (Are you kidding? He's GREAT!) ;)
From:	Pythia kingan@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:36:09 +0000

m--------oon@-------- wrote:
>


> And there's no basis to the rumor that Pythia is going to sell him gold jewelry at
> a special "by-the-pound" price. One more gold chain would break his neck!
>
> -- Claudia
> Candidate for Consul, and general gossip-monger

Subject:	Re: Pimpus Pater
From:	Claudia missmoon@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:05:59 -0500

flavia@-------- w--------:
>
> F-------- flavia@--------
>
>
> Is not the Latin word for "pimp" "Leno"?
>
> Just wondering,
>
> Minervina Iucundia Flavia
>

It is, but "Pimpus" sounded funnier.
And we don't want to associate our Rusticus with some late-night talk
show guy.

-- Claudia

Subject:	Re: Pimpus Pater
From:	flavia@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 07:43:17 -0600

Alright, Claudia, fair is fair...sorry.

I wonder if Mr. Jay Leno knows what his last name means, hmmmm.

Minervina Iucundia Flavia
Praetrix SE USA Provincia
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Or--------al Text from Claud----------------oon@--------

From: Claud----------------oon@--------

flavia@-------- w--------:
>
> F-------- flavia@--------
>
>
> Is not the Latin word for "pimp" "Leno"?
>
> Just wondering,
>
> Minervina Iucundia Flavia
>

It is, but "Pimpus" sounded funnier.
And we don't want to associate our Rusticus with some late-night talk
show guy.

-- Claudia

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Subject:	Re: Voter Codes
From:	"RMerullo" merullo@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:38:07 -0500

Salvete Consul Marce Cassi et alii

Thank you for clarifying that for me.

Please forgive me for this series of pesky questions. As a consolation, I
remind you that, in a short time, you'll be a privatus in a good position to
say "Beats the hell out me, Merulle! Why dont you go ask so-and-so or
whosie? They are consuls this year".

Are Eagles containing voter codes for Nova Roman citizens in European and
other non-U.S. countries going out by ground mail as well?

If so, will you be mailing from several different points throughout the
orbis terrarum?

I ask only because I am concerned that everyone receive a voter code on time
and have an opportunity to vote.

Valete

Gaius Marius Merullus


>
>Salve,
>
>Once again, the Voter Codes are being surface-mailed to each Citizen in
this
>issue of The Eagle. Your voter code will appear on your mailing label...
and I
>believe that it will also be written inside as well. (Flavia's gonna kill
me
>if I've gotten that bit wrong!)
>No voter codes have been sent by Email.
>
>Vale,
>
>Marcus Cassius Julianus
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Subject:	Re: underwear and apologies
From:	"A. Iulia" iuliacaesaria@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:27:38 -0800 (PST)

Salvete quirites!

I am the guilty party!
I posted some info on Roman underwear.
Here it is!


The strophium is the Roman brassiere. It is a band of soft linen 6" to
8" wide (or a folded wider strip), long enough to go around the body
at least twice. It can be worn in several ways, for example placing
the center of the band at the back and crossing the ends in front to
support the breasts, then wrapping the ends around and tucking them in
again. Evidence is scarce, however, and pins or ties may have been used.

While the tunica often served as an undergarment, there are also
references to the supparum, subucula, and (for matrons) indusium,
which may all be slip-like garments, hanging from the waist. Dancing
girls are shown wearing "bikini briefs", and a pair of woman's panties
made of leather have been found, but it is not known if these were
common items of apparel.


I hope that helps!


Noct'a
In humble gratitude to the lone hero who saved her from Bill Gates


---Nodigio@-------- wrote:
>
> From: Nodigio@--------
>
> In a message dated 11/16/98 4:47:19 PM Central Standard Time,
> p--------@-------- writes:
>
> > Second, within the past couple of weeks someone (Zonara?) posted a
few
> > thoughtful and informative paragraphs on Roman underwear.
>
> Nope, wasn't me, I don't do underwear - togas, and himations, and
sandals, and
> mead and wine and dormice, yes, but not underwear.
>
> Secunda Floria Zonara
>
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Subject:	Request for 'Tutor'
From:	"A. Iulia" iuliacaesaria@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:38:40 -0800 (PST)

Salvete quirites et Ave candidati et magistrati!

At present I am attempting to teach myself some of the art of rhetoric
and oratory.
In the ancient republican days one of the main stages of learning
these arts was the tirocinium fori, a kind of apprenticeship served
with a leading orator.

As Tacitus wrote: ‘In the days of our ancestors, a young man who was
being prepared for the Forum or Oratory, after being trained at home
and thoroughly instructed in the liberal arts, was brought by his
father or relations to the leading orator at Rome. By following him
and frequenting his company he had the opportunity of listening to all
of his speeches in the law court or at public meetings; he could hear
him in argument or debate, and, so to speak, learn to fight by taking
part in the battle.’

This practice dates from the days when the professional teacher was
unknown and the father directed his son’s only education after which
he learned the ways of public life by personal association.

I was wondering if it would be possible for a citizen standing in the
upcoming elections to ‘take me under their wing’.
You would not have to do much, just supply me with copies of your
election speeches and the like.

Tibi gratias ago et valete!


Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia

Subject:	Re: Is Consul Cassius Ok? (Are you kidding? He's GREAT!) ;)
From:	"A. Iulia" iuliacaesaria@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:15:58 -0800 (PST)

---Dexippus@-------- wrote:
>
> From: Dexippus@--------
>
> In a message dated 11/18/98 9:57:00 AM EST, m--------oon@--------
writes:
>
> << Then you must have missed the fact that Rusticus, our very own
Pimpus Pater
> (Pimp
> Daddy), Human Resources Director and founded of Nova Roma's first
Virtual
> House
> of Pleasure and Latin Studies, he who drives the pink Chariot
deVille with
> the
> leopard upholstery, he of the flashy silk togae, he who has added a
line of
> Gladiators to cater to the Bored Matronae trade, has volunteered to
teach the
> Consular candidates his famous "Pimp Walk" so that we'll look good
coming to
> the
> Rostra to give our speeches. Ah, what wondrous changes have been
wrought in
> Rusticus, formerly a simple, hardworking farm boy from Latium! Talk
about
> coming
> to the big city and making good. >>
>
> Fierce! You Go Rusticus! Work them girls!
>
> --Dexippus
> Divus Maximus Extremus
>
>

And guys!!
Remember, Rustici, orders are in for Gladiators.
And please feed Lupicorn!!


Noct'a
In humble honor and gratitude to the lone hero who saved her from Bill
Gates and Rusticini


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Subject:	Re: Voter Codes
From:	Cassius622@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:18:52 EST

In a message dated 11/19/98 12:01:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
merullo@-------- wr--------:

> Thank you for clarifying that for me.

> Please forgive me for this series of pesky questions. As a consolation, I
remind you that, in a short time, you'll be a privatus in a good position to
say "Beats the hell out me, Merulle! Why dont you go ask so-and-so or
whosie? They are consuls this year".

LOL! Hardly... even though the governance of Nova Roma will be in new hands as
of the kalends of January, I'm not giving up my interest! Remember, I'll still
be Censor and in the Senate, which rather dooms me to paying attention. ;)

>Are Eagles containing voter codes for Nova Roman citizens in European and
other non-U.S. countries going out by ground mail as well?

Yes, they are. This actually poses a problem... some non U.S. Citizens may get
their voter codes very late. We may need to Email this info as well to those
Citizens. There was simply no way to do non US Citizens first as the codes had
to be generated all at once.

> If so, will you be mailing from several different points throughout the
orbis terrarum?

No, we'll be mailing everything from the U.S. Really no other way to do it.

> I ask only because I am concerned that everyone receive a voter code on time
and have an opportunity to vote.

Understandable. This has already been considered... generating a hard copy of
The Eagle and surface-mailing the voter codes has simply been the initial and
most basic step.

Vale,

Marcus Cassius Julianus
Consul

Subject:	Re: Crazy people....
From:	Diana/Orbianna proserpina@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:53:12 -0500

At 17:18 17/11/98 +0100, you wrote:
>From: Magnus /The Emperor/ Ingmarsson emperor@--------
>
>Do check out the links from this page.... :-<
>
><a href="http://www.geocities.com/Baja/8137/rome.html" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Baja/8137/rome.html</a>
>
>
>I don't know weather to laugh or cry, but hopefully this can be used to
>really make the EU become a world government and boy wouldn't the people
>that beliave this make their own prophecy come true...

Forget the EU! Nova Roma Futurum!!! <laugh> We *are* the revival of Rome.
<thinks for a moment> But isn't it weird how a number of these Christian
prophecies are coming true? I remember them from when I was a little girl.
Hmmm.
Diana T. Hanley Bergman
proserpina@--------
orbianna@--------
----------------------------
Don't you know of tormented souls? They need dreams and action and the
purest of passion. And so we throw ourselves into fancies and madness. -
Flaubert

Linguam compescere virtus non est minima. -Anonymous

Subject:	Re: underwear and apologies
From:	Shawn Kelley discordianpirate@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:03:22 -0800 (PST)

---"A. Iulia" iuliacaesaria@-------- wrote:
>
> From: "A. Iulia" iuliacaesaria@--------
>
>
> Salvete quirites!
>
> I am the guilty party!
> I posted some info on Roman underwear.
> Here it is!
>
>
> The strophium is the Roman brassiere. It is a band of soft linen 6" to
> 8" wide (or a folded wider strip), long enough to go around the body
> at least twice. It can be worn in several ways, for example placing
> the center of the band at the back and crossing the ends in front to
> support the breasts, then wrapping the ends around and tucking them in
> again. Evidence is scarce, however, and pins or ties may have been
used.
>
> While the tunica often served as an undergarment, there are also
> references to the supparum, subucula, and (for matrons) indusium,
> which may all be slip-like garments, hanging from the waist. Dancing
> girls are shown wearing "bikini briefs", and a pair of woman's panties
> made of leather have been found, but it is not known if these were
> common items of apparel.
>
>
> I hope that helps!
>
>
> Noct'a
> In humble gratitude to the lone hero who saved her from Bill Gates
>
>
> ---Nodigio@-------- wrote:
> >
> > From: Nodigio@--------
> >
> > In a message dated 11/16/98 4:47:19 PM Central Standard Time,
> > p--------@-------- writes:
> >
> > > Second, within the past couple of weeks someone (Zonara?) posted a
> few
> > > thoughtful and informative paragraphs on Roman underwear.
> >
> > Nope, wasn't me, I don't do underwear - togas, and himations, and
> sandals, and
> > mead and wine and dormice, yes, but not underwear.
> >
> > Secunda Floria Zonara
> >
> >
>
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Very interesting...I have also heard of Romans washing their underwear
in urine to remove stains. Something to do with the acids acting as a
detergent.

Subject:	Re: Voter Codes
From:	Claudia missmoon@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:25:34 -0500

RMerullo wrote:

> Please forgive me for this series of pesky questions. As a consolation, I
> remind you that, in a short time, you'll be a privatus in a good position to
> say "Beats the hell out me, Merulle! Why dont you go ask so-and-so or
> whosie? They are consuls this year".
>
I betcha he's counting the days!

> Are Eagles containing voter codes for Nova Roman citizens in European and
> other non-U.S. countries going out by ground mail as well?

Everything goes by snail mail. We thought of special sealed scrolls sent
through the Legions, but we lost the official NR seal.
>
> If so, will you be mailing from several different points throughout the
> orbis terrarum?

No. We're mailing from the center of the Universe, the Umbilicum Orbis,
the exciting and sophisticated city that never sleeps, although it does
nod off a lot. You know: Scarborough, Maine.
>
> I ask only because I am concerned that everyone receive a voter code on time
> and have an opportunity to vote.
>
Ballots must reach Nova Roma by Dec. 13.

-- Claudia

Subject:	Re: Crazy people....
From:	Cassius622@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:07:59 EST

In a message dated 11/19/98 10:46:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
--------er--------@-------- writes:

<<
Forget the EU! Nova Roma Futurum!!! <laugh> We *are* the revival of Rome.
<thinks for a moment> But isn't it weird how a number of these Christian
prophecies are coming true? I remember them from when I was a little girl.
Hmmm. >>

I dunno... Christian prophecy has been saying that the world would end since
the 1st Century CE. Literally every generation of Christians since the time of
the apostle Paul have considered themselves to be living in "the last days".
I can't even recall how many rulers, Popes and political figures have been
seen as the Antichrist from Revelations for instance, or how many alliances
have been seen as the formation of the One World Government.

For some reason humanity seems to have a common feeling that the present is
always worse than the past... even when that's completely untrue. The Romans
saw this as a change of ages from Gold, to Silver, to Iron or whatever.
Christianity has seen this as the coming end of the world - for centuries.

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus

Subject:	Pro Quaestor, Endorsements
From:	Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator amgunn@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:59:42 -0800

Salus et Fortuna Omnes, Salvete Quirtes!

For Quaestor I endorse the Candidacies of Patricia Cassia, Marcus
Minucius Audens and (in all modesty) myself.

Patricia Cassia has in my opinion been a tireless worker for the benefit
of the People and Res Publica of Nova Roma. Information is often times
the most important asset we possess, Patricia Cassia has done well as
Defensor et Domina de Situs Araneum, which IS the major prescense of
Nova Roma today. I shall vote to continue her stewardship.

Audens, what is there to say: a man of deep conviction, honor, respect,
courtesy, experience. He is my Friend, which in my Religion is
tantamount to adopting him. I shall vote to add his talents to the
governance of Nova Roma.

For myself, I have no stirring words, no overwhelming reasons, save a
desire to see this Nation of Ours succeed. I thank you all for your
consideration and hope for more votes than mine own.

There are three Quaestorships, and three Candidates (of which I am
aware). Let not this deter you from thinking long and hard about your
vote.

Vote your Conscious and Intellect, for all of us, two of us, one or none
of us. But, the three of us shall work together and help establish a
continuing precedent for unselfish administrative work for the People
and Res Publica!

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Subject:	Re: Show and Tell!
From:	Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator amgunn@--------
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:02:02 -0800

Salve Pythia!

Minerva and Vulcan surely guide your hands. I look forward to meeting
you some day to compare notes on decorative metal working.

|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| ___ ___ |
| /'( _ )'\ Benedictus et Pacem |
| / . \/^\/ . \ |
| / _)_'-'_(_ \ Stephanus Ullerius Venator |
| /.-' ).( '-.\ |
| /' /\_/\ '\ Citizen - Paterfamilias |
| "-V-" |
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| omnes Minervae homo - Petronius |
| non ut vivam edo, sed ut edam vivo - Venator |
| nunc est bibendum - Horace |
| in vino veritas, in cervisia felicitas, |
| in ipocras afflatus - A. Nonius Mus |
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