| Subject: |
Write ins was Corrected Ballot |
| From: |
"RMerullo" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:14:40 -0500 |
|
Salvete Scaevola et alii
>From: Mike Ma--------r MikeMa--------r@--------
>
>Merullus suggests the following form of ballot:
>
>>>Nova Roma Sample Ballot
>>>
>>> Candidates for Consul: all citizens vote for one candidate:
>>> [ ] Claudia Juliana, Flavia.
>>> [ ] Equitius Cincinnatus, Lucius.
>>> [ ] Iunius Palladius, Decius.
>> [ ] Write in________________________________
>
>and asks,
>
>>Also, Praetores Urbani and candidates to that high seat, do any of you
>know
>>what a Roman ballot looked like? How about even a basic description? Did
>>anyone do any research into this, and, if so, please comment.
>
>I don't know what a ballot in Roma Antiqua was like (or thought to be
But I don't think
>Roman procedure would have allowed for write-ins & I'm not clear why
>Merullus thinks we need this option. Further argument please?
You are probably right about Roman procedure, but , as you point out, you do
not know how Romans voted nor how they did not vote. Cincinnatus has also
stated that the ballots were oral, but he also said that they sometimes were
on wax tablets. So, thus far, noone including myself has demonstrated
knowledge of specific mechanisms like ballots for voting in Roma Antiqua,
beyond the medium (oral or wax tablets).
In light of this, we are left with our opinions on a level field. I
included the write-in because of the paucity of candidates from which to
choose, and because this device is common on ballots in the United States,
and because I deem it quite acceptable myself.
All this is probably moot now anyway, since Iulianus stated intention to
make a decision by now.
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
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| Subject: |
Re: Campaign of Q. Claudia Lucentia Aprica for Praetor Urbanus |
| From: |
"RMerullo" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:30:30 -0500 |
|
Salvete Praetores futuri et sedentes et alii
Is this thread open to privati? I am going to assume that it is.
>From: Rob--------Woolwin----------------us@--------
>
>
>
>Mike Macnair wrote:
>
>> From: Mike Ma--------r MikeMa--------r@--------
>> We could if we wished make our Constitution more Roman by restricting
>> Constitutional amendments to the Comitia Centuriata, voting perhaps by
>> special procedure or with a special majority. Putting in a "supremacy
>> clause" would add nothing and be un-Roman.
>
>The problem is now we are mixing modern day political theory with Ancient
>Roma...Ancient Roma did not have a written Constitution so this problem did
not
>ever concern them.....in Today's modern Constitutional government. it is a
>matter of great concern. Look at the differences between a Constitution
that
>did not have a Clause (the Articles of Confederation) and the Modern
>Constitution of the US. This is a problem we at NR are facing...and
dealing
>with....this is a Modern problem..with very little bearing in the past to
guide
>us.
>
>Lucius Cornelius Sulla, Quaestor
>Candidiate for Praetor Urbanis
>
Nova Roma blends ancient and modern elements. It has a written
constitution, a very modern thing. That very constitution, however,
emphasizes the ancient structures and traditions of the Roman Republic, and
declares that these should be re-built into Nova Roma to the fullest
possible extent.
I see Scaevola's position about using the comitia centuriata to perform
functions similar to those of a modern consitutional court as a way to make
the ancient structures work. It is therefore compatible with the spirit of
our constitution.
If we wanted to set up a new state using modern political structures, we
would be unlikely to bother using Roman magistracies like 'Consul' and
'Tribune', especially since it requires effort for us to interpret the roles
and responsibilities of these magistrates. It would be eminently more
practical to elect a 'President', or a 'Parliament' which would then appoint
'Ministers'. Of course, such a state would have nothing whatsoever to do
with Rome; but it would be rather more workable on the basis of modern
political norms.
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
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| Subject: |
Re: Campaign of Q. Claudia Lucentia Aprica for Pra etor Urbanus |
| From: |
Cheri Scotch CheriS@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:59:06 -0500 |
|
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RMerullo [SMTP:rmerullo@--------]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 10:31 AM
> To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
> Subject: [novaroma] written constitution
>
>
> >Mike Macnair wrote:
> >
> >> From: Mike Ma--------r MikeMa--------r@--------
>
> >The problem is now we are mixing modern day political theory with
> Ancient
> >Roma...Ancient Roma did not have a written Constitution so this
> problem did
> not
> >ever concern them....
They didn't have a Constitution as such, but they had the laws
written on big bronze tablets and posted on the walls of (I think) the
Senate house.
It's very hard to separate our modern Democratic mindset from
the Roman Republican form of government. Perhaps if we did more research
into the roots of Roman law, which were probably Etruscan in origin, we
might gain more information.
This is going to take a lot of time and scholarship on the parts
of many people -- it's too much for one person. Perhaps a volunteer
committee NOT associated with the Senate or the Comitae should undertake
the research before any reworking of the Constitution. The reason for an
impartial volunteer committee -- not one appointed or encouraged by
those in office-- is fairly obvious.
And perhaps any discussion of the Constitution should be tabled
until after the elections. It's too late to try to work outside of what
we have -- however inadequate -- and the attempt to manage an election
AND a constitutional debate at the same time is getting muddled.
-- Flavia Claudia Juliana
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| Subject: |
BALLOT DECISION - Please Read |
| From: |
Cassius622@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:59:09 EST |
|
Salvete, Omnes!
First and foremost, many sincere thanks to everyone who has taken the time to
express their thoughts on the list about the ballot situation. Your assistance
is much appreciated, and has helped a great deal!
The consensus seems to be that it's best to go with the ballot form which will
allow Citizens to vote for as many candidates as there are positions open
within each post. The reasoning for this is sound; it will allow each of us
greater choice. Nova Roma will stay with this type of ballot form this
election.
Even though the matter has seen some discussion, we won't be able to go with a
"write in" slot this year. None of the voters have been prepared for this.
Also, we have no system for sorting out the difficulties which would arrise
from adding it on so late in the process. Perhaps the issue will come up again
next year when it will be possible to explore the idea more fully, although
I'm personally convinced that there was no write-in system in ancient Roman
voting.
One difficult thing - there just is not enough time left to send each Citizen
a new ballot by surface mail. Therefore the correction for the ballot will be
done over the Internet wherever possible. A replacement surface mailing will
only be done for the (very!) few Citizens who can't be contacted by email. The
Citizens with amended surface mail ballots will likely end up being counted in
the manner in which absentee votes are tallied. We will of course make EVERY
effort to ensure that each Citizen is able to vote and be heard!
I will begin mailing Citizens this evening, with amended vote information.
This will likely include:
1. Your Voter Code
2. The address of the "unofficial" website created by Decius Iunius Palladius,
which has a sample ballot and some voter info.
3. The web address for the Voter page in Nova Roma. This will be set up for
the current vote VERY soon... Citizens should be able to begin voting by the
end of this week.
4. A copy of the new ballot instructions.
It'll probably take two or three evenings to get all the emails sent out, but
the process will still be quicker than another expensive mailing. If any
Citizen has any questions *after* recieving the mailing, I'll be happy to
assist.
Again, sincere thanks for your patience and your input. We WILL get through
this election time. Even though it's been rough in spots we've actually done
quite well... considering we've been trying to master one of the most complex
and intricate election systems that has ever existed!
Valete,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
Consul
|
| Subject: |
Last Candidate Message-Marcus Minucius Audens for Quaestor |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:47:41 -0500 (EST) |
|
All Nova Romans;
I stand before you as a candidate for the Office of Quaestor, and this
will be my last appeal to you for support in the coming election as the
election day draws near. Fist I would like to acknowledge my fellow
candidtes and offer them all of the support at my command, Running
unopposed has the advantage of being able to promise in the coming year
my full support to those who will win their office and consideration to
those who will work within Nova Roma as citizens, "no mean position". as
one of my most esteemed colleagues has said in the past.
I can only pledge to you, the citizens of Nova Roma, my diligence, my
administrative skills, and my experience in full measure. I feel myself
very flattered that I am able to stand before you as a Candidate for
office in this new country, and thereby become some small pat of it's
history.
In closing, I wish to thank, most humbly, and with great appreciation,
those who have supported both my nomination to this position and the
advancement of it through this campaign. I wish also to thank our
previous year's appointed leaders for their seemingly tireless and
sincere efforts in bringing Nova Roma as far as t has come.
Your Most Appreciative Servant;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Military Tribune
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
|
| Subject: |
Wanted gentleman expert on naval wargames. |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" amg@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:33:36 -0000 |
|
Salvete!
In order to get some help for my future Plebeian Aedile office, I'm trying
to find someone that M Audens indicated to me. Read below... An tell me if
you're the man:
Vale!
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
(Propraetor ad Lusitaniam Provinciam)
-----Original Message-----
From: James Mathe--------math669642reng@--------
To: amg <amg>
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 12:33 AM
Subject: Games
There is within Nova Roma a gentleman who used to articipate in naval
strategy games in a parking lot at San Diego State. The point here is
that I believe he has retained sufficient materials from those days to
set up a Naval Stratey Game on the Internet, which would probably beat
the Chat-Room and it's very difficult procedures. I'm not sure of the
man's name, as I was not up on the vaious Roman Names when I first
joined, but I am sure that an appeal over onelist will reveal the
individual.
M. Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: Graecus Games Idea.. or let the games began! |
| From: |
|
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:50:18 EST |
|
In a message dated 98-11-29 11:24:11 EST, you write:
<< Now, as I've said, the old Circus is gone... =( Oh! But that was the
Circus with men fighting in the arena! What if the Gladiators were computer
programs??? Program your robot gladiator in C language with the CROBOTS
program and lets see who's the champion! Well, don't you know the C language?
Well, also not every citizen was a gladiator, but still we can find a
mechanism for you to place your BETS! >>
Ok I have a program called Centurio which allows you to race up to four
chariots, and a gladiator program called "Habet!!" the allows you to pit
pairs against one another. I could run the programs, and you at the market
place place your bets. Since I am a script writer, i can write very
discriptive accounts of the action: "Flavis slashes at Attlis, but Attlis
ducks under and cuts at Flavis, who turns it with his shield. No score.
Attlis continues to bleed slightly from that arm cut."
For those of you who are more hands on, I have turned the "Habit!!" program
into a miniatures game. It works on picking the right offense card against
the correct defense card to get a score. If we could work out an instant
link, Graecus could moniter the choices of two players, roll the dice, (luck
factor) and call the result. The rest of you Romans could bet. Betting ran
the gamet from first score, to will he live or die.
Neat thing about this is that we recapture the excitment of the Arena, but no
one gets killed How PC!!
Chariot Racing.
Centurio has a chariot racing mode. There are 4 cars, red, white, blue and
green. The race runs 3 laps. Bets run from first spill, who dies, to winner.
There was no place or show. (Except when Nero was racing. Then whoever came
in second would be declared the winner!)
Placing bets. Romans were gentlemen. There were no bookies, or off track
shops. Bets would placed one on one or in a group. I still do this at
baseball games. It's called stand betting. A buck a hit is the usual bet.
You bet on the batter or the pitcher. If you take the pitcher, you declare if
it is going to be an out, or a strike-out. If you get the strike-out you
double your bet. If the batter gets a hit, you owe a buck. You can do the
same with the batter. If you call the shot, id est, a double you double your
bet. If your man gets a hit, but not a double, you lose, because you called a
double, and pay a buck to guy who bet on a pitcher.
So how does this work with gladiators? Combat will be run in rounds. You can
bet on the round. As soon a hit is scored, the round is over. A new round
begains. Like boxing I guess you could bet on what round who gets put down,
but Romans did not have rounds. We are using it as an time seperation device.
Anyway sorry for such a long post, but I had a lot of time on my hands today
so I thought i'd write it all at once.
Q Fabius
|
| Subject: |
Re: Graecus Games Idea.. or let the games began! |
| From: |
Cheri Scotch CheriS@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:55:48 -0500 |
|
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SFP55@-------- [SMTP:SFP55@--------]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 3:50 PM
> To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
> Subject: [novaroma] Re: Graecus Games Idea.. or let the games
> began!
>
> From: SFP55@--------
>
> Ok I have a program called Centurio which allows you to race up to
> four
> chariots, and a gladiator program called "Habet!!" the allows you to
> pit
> pairs against one another. I could run the programs, and you at the
> market
> place place your bets. Since I am a script writer, i can write very
> discriptive accounts of the action: "Flavis slashes at Attlis, but
> Attlis
> ducks under and cuts at Flavis, who turns it with his shield. No
> score.
> Attlis continues to bleed slightly from that arm cut."
>
Whoa, that's gotta hurt.
Fabius, what a wonderful idea! A Virtual Colosseum! When do we
start? Are the Games going to be sponsored by the various gentes and are
we going to follow the old Roman schedules of games? Remember those
front-row seats for Vestals!
-- Flavia Claudia
|
| Subject: |
Re: Wanted gentleman expert on naval wargames. |
| From: |
"Lucius" vergil@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:17:29 -0500 |
|
>
>In order to get some help for my future Plebeian Aedile office, I'm trying
>to find someone that M Audens indicated to me. Read below... An tell me if
>you're the man:
>
>Vale!Antonius Gryllus Graecus
>(Propraetor ad Lusitaniam Provinciam)
>
>There is within Nova Roma a gentleman who used to articipate in naval
>strategy games in a parking lot at San Diego State. The point here is
>that I believe he has retained sufficient materials from those days to
>set up a Naval Stratey Game on the Internet, which would probably beat
>the Chat-Room and it's very difficult procedures. I'm not sure of the
>man's name, as I was not up on the vaious Roman Names when I first
>joined, but I am sure that an appeal over onelist will reveal the
>individual.
>M. Audens
Salvete
'Cincinnatus points into the crowd at Gaius Aelius Ericius' and says,
"Ecce, is!"
Really I think Ericius Praetor of California is the man about whom you are
referring. Sorry, Erici if I'm mistaken
Vale L Equitius
|
| Subject: |
Re: Supremacy Clause (was re Campaign of Q. Claudia Lucentia Aprica for Praetor Urbanus |
| From: |
Mike Macnair MikeMacnair@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:22:14 -0500 |
|
I wrote that ...
>>Suppose we made the
>>Constitution "supreme law" - what is our "supreme court"? The answer in
the
>>constitution of Roma Antiqua, and ours, must be - the Comitia Centuriata.
>> In the later Roman Republic laws of constitutional importance usually
went
>>through the Comitia Centuriata, while other laws usually went through the
>>Concilium Plebis (why not the Comitia Tributa, the historians don't
know).
>>We could if we wished make our Constitution more Roman by restricting
>>Constitutional amendments to the Comitia Centuriata, voting perhaps by
>>special procedure or with a special majority. Putting in a "supremacy
>>clause" would add nothing and be un-Roman.
and Sulla replies that
>The problem is now we are mixing modern day political theory with Ancient
>Roma...Ancient Roma did not have a written Constitution so this problem
did not
>ever concern them.....in Today's modern Constitutional government. it is a
>matter of great concern. Look at the differences between a Constitution
that
>did not have a Clause (the Articles of Confederation) and the Modern
>Constitution of the US. This is a problem we at NR are facing...and
dealing
>with....this is a Modern problem..with very little bearing in the past to
guide
>us.
I respond that
This doesn't answer the point that a supremacy clause only makes sense if
you have a professional Supreme Court and judicial review (compare Sulla's
own comparison of the Articles of Confederation and the US Constitution)
i.e. government in the last instance by lawyers. I don't think that we have
the concerns which faced the framers of the US Constitution (and
personally, as a supporter of ancient/ civic republicanism, I doubt I would
have been a Federalist in the 1780s-90s). A written constitution can
perfectly well be a clear way of stating the rules of political
organisation adopted by a group or state, without having to follow the
Federalist "rules". NR has to have a written Constitution because we're a
new group without our own custom and because we can't simply agree to
follow the Mos Maiorum (among other reasons because a) it changed over time
b) there's no clearly "known" idea what it was at any time). But we can be
as Roman as possible - and I think that my suggestion on this point is more
Roman than a supermacy clause.
M. Mucius Scaevola Magister
Candidate for Praetor Urbanus
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| Subject: |
Re: OFF TOPIC. Relaxation Excercise. |
| From: |
"Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia" a_i_c_nocturnia@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:08:33 PST |
|
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>Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:09:52 -0800
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>Subject: [novaroma] OFF TOPIC. Relaxation Excercise.
>
>From: Raz-------- raz--------@--------
>
>HUMOR WARNING. ENGAGE SENSE OF HUMOR.
>
>
>Stress Management at its finest.
>
>Picture yourself near a stream. Birds are softly chirping in the
>crisp, cool
>mountain air. Nothing can bother you here. No one knows this
>secret place.
>You are in total seclusion from that place called "the world".
>The soothing
>sound of a gentle waterfall fills the air with a cascade of
>serenity. The
>water is clear. You can easily make out the face of the person
>whose head you
>are holding under the water.
>
>There now . . . Feeling better?
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription
>to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at <a href="http://www.onelist.com" target="_top" >http://www.onelist.com</a> and
>select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left.
Oh THANK you!!!
So much better now!!
;)
Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia
Noct'a to her friends
Materfamilias of the Plebian Gens. Iulia Casearia
Barkeep of the Papillae Lupae
__________________________________________________
To be ignorant of what has happened before your birth is to remain
always a child. For what is the meaning of a man’s life unless it is
intertwined with that of our ancestor’s by history?
Cicero
Orator 120
____________________________________________________________
You will discover Runes and imaginative staves
Very great staves, very strong staves
Which a powerful thule paited, and great Gods created
Carved by the prophet of the Gods
Hàvamàl (The words of the God Odin)
__________________________________________________
Quote of all time!
Excudent alii spirantia mollius aeracredo equidem, uiuos ducent de
marmore uoltus,orabunt causus melius, caelique meatusdescribent radio,
et surgentia sidera dicent:tu regere imperio populos, Romane,
memento;hae tibi erunt artes, pacique imponere morem,parcere subiectis,
et debellare superbos.
(Others shall mould, I doubt not, the breathing bronze more
delicatelyand draw living features out of marble, others shall plead
causes moreeloquently, trace the motions of the heavens with a rod, and
tell therisings of the stars. Thou, Roman, forget not to govern the
nationsunder thy sway. These shall be thy arts: to crown peace with law,
tospare thew conquered, and to defeat the proud.)
Vergil
__________________________________________________________
And especially for my friend Venator;
"The ill-minded man who meanly thinks,
fleers at both foul and fair;
he does not know,
as know he ought,
that he is not free from flaws."
-The Sayings of the High One
___________________________________________________________
And for those who believe they have little to offer,
"Not great things needs give to a man:
bringeth thanks oft a little thing;
with half a loaf and a half-drained cup
I won me oft worthy friend."
Havamal
|
| Subject: |
Re: Elections and Candidates Guide |
| From: |
"Lucius" vergil@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:09:08 -0500 |
|
Salvete
Once again here is the website for the Candidates.
>
>Salvete! To try and alleviate any confusion I have put together an
>unofficial guide to the candidates and elections. It can be found at
><a href="http://homepages.together.net/~bcatfd/Elections.html" target="_top" >http://homepages.together.net/~bcatfd/Elections.html</a>
>
>An note about Plebeian positions: they can be held by and voted on
>only by plebeians. They are the *only* elected positions with such
>restrictions. All other positions are open to Patricians and
>Plebeians and can be voted for by both.
>
>Palladius
For those of you who like me 'clean off their desks' periodically :-)
Vale L Equitius CIncinnatus candidate pro Consule
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| Subject: |
Re: splitting things up |
| From: |
"Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia" a_i_c_nocturnia@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:20:24 PST |
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>Subject: [novaroma] Re: splitting things up
>
>From: Asseri@--------
>
>In a message dated 11/30/98 6:01:34 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
>p--------@-------- writes:
>
><< The volume of mail is too much -- even
> for me, and I'm a confirmed web-geek. So I think at some point we're
> going to have to create some interest groups.
>
> Patricia Cassia >>
>I think once the elections are over we can go back to the low post
volume we
>had before. Personally I thought the list was for all things Nova Roma
not
>just Reglio.
>I doubt that we need to spilt this up, divide to conquer as the saying
goes!!
>In service!
>P. A. Olivia
>
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Surely even if we had different mailing lists for different interests,
lots of people would subscribe to most of them anyway and would,
therefore, recieve the same amount of mail as they would if we kept the
one!
Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia
Noct'a to her friends
Materfamilias of the Plebian Gens. Iulia Casearia
Barkeep of the Papillae Lupae
__________________________________________________
To be ignorant of what has happened before your birth is to remain
always a child. For what is the meaning of a man’s life unless it is
intertwined with that of our ancestor’s by history?
Cicero
Orator 120
____________________________________________________________
You will discover Runes and imaginative staves
Very great staves, very strong staves
Which a powerful thule paited, and great Gods created
Carved by the prophet of the Gods
Hàvamàl (The words of the God Odin)
__________________________________________________
Quote of all time!
Excudent alii spirantia mollius aeracredo equidem, uiuos ducent de
marmore uoltus,orabunt causus melius, caelique meatusdescribent radio,
et surgentia sidera dicent:tu regere imperio populos, Romane,
memento;hae tibi erunt artes, pacique imponere morem,parcere subiectis,
et debellare superbos.
(Others shall mould, I doubt not, the breathing bronze more
delicatelyand draw living features out of marble, others shall plead
causes moreeloquently, trace the motions of the heavens with a rod, and
tell therisings of the stars. Thou, Roman, forget not to govern the
nationsunder thy sway. These shall be thy arts: to crown peace with law,
tospare thew conquered, and to defeat the proud.)
Vergil
__________________________________________________________
And especially for my friend Venator;
"The ill-minded man who meanly thinks,
fleers at both foul and fair;
he does not know,
as know he ought,
that he is not free from flaws."
-The Sayings of the High One
___________________________________________________________
And for those who believe they have little to offer,
"Not great things needs give to a man:
bringeth thanks oft a little thing;
with half a loaf and a half-drained cup
I won me oft worthy friend."
Havamal
|
| Subject: |
Re: Plebs + Pats. |
| From: |
"Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia" a_i_c_nocturnia@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:26:00 PST |
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>In a message dated 11/30/98 6:01:34 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
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>
><< The volume of mail is too much -- even
> for me, and I'm a confirmed web-geek. So I think at some point we're
> going to have to create some interest groups.
>
> Patricia Cassia >>
>I think once the elections are over we can go back to the low post
volume we
>had before. Personally I thought the list was for all things Nova Roma
not
>just Reglio.
>I doubt that we need to spilt this up, divide to conquer as the saying
goes!!
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In an earlier email to the list someone, I can’t remember who, said that
there were 29 Patrician gens and that as of yet no Plebeian gens had
come forward to ask for elevation to Patrician status.
I am a bit confused about this.
I quote the Constitution Article VII: Gentes, Point 9
“Should the Censors determine that a given Patrician gens is extinct,
they may recommend to the Senate that a given Plebeian family be
elevated to the rank of Patrician. The Senate may then confirm the
recommendation by majority vote.”
So, does a Plebeian gens apply for elevation or are they put forward by
the Senate?
Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia
Noct'a to her friends
Materfamilias of the Plebian Gens. Iulia Casearia
Barkeep of the Papillae Lupae
__________________________________________________
To be ignorant of what has happened before your birth is to remain
always a child. For what is the meaning of a man’s life unless it is
intertwined with that of our ancestor’s by history?
Cicero
Orator 120
____________________________________________________________
You will discover Runes and imaginative staves
Very great staves, very strong staves
Which a powerful thule paited, and great Gods created
Carved by the prophet of the Gods
Hàvamàl (The words of the God Odin)
__________________________________________________
Quote of all time!
Excudent alii spirantia mollius aeracredo equidem, uiuos ducent de
marmore uoltus,orabunt causus melius, caelique meatusdescribent radio,
et surgentia sidera dicent:tu regere imperio populos, Romane,
memento;hae tibi erunt artes, pacique imponere morem,parcere subiectis,
et debellare superbos.
(Others shall mould, I doubt not, the breathing bronze more
delicatelyand draw living features out of marble, others shall plead
causes moreeloquently, trace the motions of the heavens with a rod, and
tell therisings of the stars. Thou, Roman, forget not to govern the
nationsunder thy sway. These shall be thy arts: to crown peace with law,
tospare thew conquered, and to defeat the proud.)
Vergil
__________________________________________________________
And especially for my friend Venator;
"The ill-minded man who meanly thinks,
fleers at both foul and fair;
he does not know,
as know he ought,
that he is not free from flaws."
-The Sayings of the High One
___________________________________________________________
And for those who believe they have little to offer,
"Not great things needs give to a man:
bringeth thanks oft a little thing;
with half a loaf and a half-drained cup
I won me oft worthy friend."
Havamal
|
| Subject: |
Re: More constitutional stuff |
| From: |
"Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia" a_i_c_nocturnia@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:27:47 PST |
|
I’m not going through the Constitution and causing trouble, I’ve just
been reading it and picking up on things I haven’t previously noticed.
I quote Article VI: Public Religious Institutions, Point 2.
“Only citizens of Nova Roma may be members of the public institutions of
the Religio Romana, which shall…”
What about Priests of Cybele and Syria Dea (Atargadis)?
|
| Subject: |
More Political stuff |
| From: |
"Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia" a_i_c_nocturnia@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:34:42 PST |
|
Salvete
Do we yet know who’s in the different Comitiae?
Also, when do we find out what tribes we’re in?
Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia
Noct'a to her friends
Materfamilias of the Plebian Gens. Iulia Casearia
Barkeep of the Papillae Lupae
__________________________________________________
To be ignorant of what has happened before your birth is to remain
always a child. For what is the meaning of a man’s life unless it is
intertwined with that of our ancestor’s by history?
Cicero
Orator 120
____________________________________________________________
You will discover Runes and imaginative staves
Very great staves, very strong staves
Which a powerful thule paited, and great Gods created
Carved by the prophet of the Gods
Hàvamàl (The words of the God Odin)
__________________________________________________
Quote of all time!
Excudent alii spirantia mollius aeracredo equidem, uiuos ducent de
marmore uoltus,orabunt causus melius, caelique meatusdescribent radio,
et surgentia sidera dicent:tu regere imperio populos, Romane,
memento;hae tibi erunt artes, pacique imponere morem,parcere subiectis,
et debellare superbos.
(Others shall mould, I doubt not, the breathing bronze more
delicatelyand draw living features out of marble, others shall plead
causes moreeloquently, trace the motions of the heavens with a rod, and
tell therisings of the stars. Thou, Roman, forget not to govern the
nationsunder thy sway. These shall be thy arts: to crown peace with law,
tospare thew conquered, and to defeat the proud.)
Vergil
__________________________________________________________
And especially for my friend Venator;
"The ill-minded man who meanly thinks,
fleers at both foul and fair;
he does not know,
as know he ought,
that he is not free from flaws."
-The Sayings of the High One
___________________________________________________________
And for those who believe they have little to offer,
"Not great things needs give to a man:
bringeth thanks oft a little thing;
with half a loaf and a half-drained cup
I won me oft worthy friend."
Havamal
|
| Subject: |
It's Crys/Be nice to me/Dr. report |
| From: |
Mater2Two@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:47:14 EST |
|
Salvete all!!!
1st of all .... It's up!!!!!!!!! I spent half the night perfecting it and the
other half trying to get the right version of AOL so I could upload the stupid
thing!!!! Anyway, it's up now and it's as empty as a new house!!! But I am
showing it to you so you can tell me if it's good, bad or indefferent.
Ready???
<A HREF="<a href="http://members.tripod.com/~acl_pit/roma/SODWEL.HTM">Sodalis" target="_top" >http://members.tripod.com/~acl_pit/roma/SODWEL.HTM">Sodalis</a> Pro
Infantia </A>
2nd?? I had my doctors appointment today. I do NOT have gestational
diabetes!! Lapis is as healthy and booring as ever!!! But I HAVE been having
contractions, but the doctor thinks they are simple Braxton-Hicks and not to
worry. She then suggested I come in every other week "Just in case". sigh.
They will not actually schedule the cesarian until after my 36th week of
pregnancy, but it will most likely be on or about February 15th (I told them
it was a religious preference...it got their attention anyway). I am 28
(maybe 26, I'm losing count) weeks now.
Terry got all upset because the doctor was paying attention to me (the little
attention hog!!) so we sat her on my legs while the doctor used the Doppler to
take a pulse. She LOVED it!!!
We also had a wonderful time in the chatroom last night (Terry loved the
graphics Venator, BTW). I will try to get there often and NOT have the baby
on the bar <G> (happy Claudia?).
Valete.....Crys and Terry and Lapis (who will NOT be born online, no matter
HOW much Claudia begs!!!!!!)
|
| Subject: |
Information on worship in Ancient times |
| From: |
"Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia" a_i_c_nocturnia@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 01 Dec 1998 16:13:14 PST |
|
Salvete
I am looking for any information about Divus Augustus and the worship of
him in Ancient times.
All the books and websites I can find on Augustus focus on his life
acheivments and those that do mention his Deification don’t say much
about it.
If you know of any books or websites that would be of use I would be
extremely grateful to have them.
Gratias
Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia
Noct'a to her friends
Materfamilias of the Plebian Gens. Iulia Casearia
Barkeep of the Papillae Lupae
__________________________________________________
To be ignorant of what has happened before your birth is to remain
always a child. For what is the meaning of a man’s life unless it is
intertwined with that of our ancestor’s by history?
Cicero
Orator 120
____________________________________________________________
You will discover Runes and imaginative staves
Very great staves, very strong staves
Which a powerful thule paited, and great Gods created
Carved by the prophet of the Gods
Hàvamàl (The words of the God Odin)
__________________________________________________
Quote of all time!
Excudent alii spirantia mollius aeracredo equidem, uiuos ducent de
marmore uoltus,orabunt causus melius, caelique meatusdescribent radio,
et surgentia sidera dicent:tu regere imperio populos, Romane,
memento;hae tibi erunt artes, pacique imponere morem,parcere subiectis,
et debellare superbos.
(Others shall mould, I doubt not, the breathing bronze more
delicatelyand draw living features out of marble, others shall plead
causes moreeloquently, trace the motions of the heavens with a rod, and
tell therisings of the stars. Thou, Roman, forget not to govern the
nationsunder thy sway. These shall be thy arts: to crown peace with law,
tospare thew conquered, and to defeat the proud.)
Vergil
__________________________________________________________
And especially for my friend Venator;
"The ill-minded man who meanly thinks,
fleers at both foul and fair;
he does not know,
as know he ought,
that he is not free from flaws."
-The Sayings of the High One
___________________________________________________________
And for those who believe they have little to offer,
"Not great things needs give to a man:
bringeth thanks oft a little thing;
with half a loaf and a half-drained cup
I won me oft worthy friend."
Havamal
|
| Subject: |
Toga virilis |
| From: |
Roger Bonilla rebonill@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:30:07 -0600 (CST) |
|
Sexto Felix Vitalis, introduces him-self.
Salvete!
I have heard about a very interesting celebration when the roman teenagers
got their 15-17 years old: The celebration of the adquisition of their
"Toga Virilis". Somebody of you have detailed information about this
celebration topic? All the roman teenagers have to undertake this
celebration or it is only destinated for the Patricios gens?
Perhaps some of the paterfamiliaes here have teenagers and very soon they
shall undertake this celebration.
Valete
Sexto Felix Vitalis
Tria Tabernas' Owner
Via Appia Way XXI from Neapolis
|
| Subject: |
Re: More Political stuff |
| From: |
"Lucius" vergil@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:44:18 -0500 |
|
Salvete Quirites
>
>Do we yet know who’s in the different Comitiae?
>
I think that each citizen should not only know which Century they are
in, but also who the other members of their various comitiae are. This way
they could communicate with each other and discuss how they should vote.
Although I have no source, I believe that the Romans would certianly have
known their fellow Tribe and Century members.
>Also, when do we find out what tribes we’re in?
>
This is in the hands of the Censores, M Cassius Iulianus et D Iunius
Palladius.
>Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia
Valete L Equitius Cincinnatus candidatus pro Consule
|
| Subject: |
Re: Priests of Cybele and Syria Dea (Atargadis) |
| From: |
SFP55@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:40:28 EST |
|
In a message dated 98-12-01 19:02:24 EST, you write:
<< What about Priests of Cybele and Syria Dea (Atargadis)? >>
Salve!
Cybele came to Rome circa 205. Her worship was confined to her temple on the
Palatine, and She served by non Roman priests. see Lucr 2. 624, and Dion's
HAL Ant. Rom. 2. 19 3-5. Claudius allowed the citizenary to enter Her
priesthood after giving Her public status. She is not a big Republican diety.
Atargatis was favorite of Syrians. The Seleucid successors raised Her to high
status, but She never caught on much in Rome. Fickle Nero worshipped Her for
a bit. Her main temple was on Delos with another in Antioch I believe.
SEE Lucian's "De Dea Syria" which is a discription of the cult in Syria.
If you can read German an excellent analysis including the spots all known
inscriptions to Her were discovered, can be found in "Lukians Schrift uber die
Syrische Gottin." (Umlauts should be over the u in urber and the o in Gottin.
Don't have German on this keyboard.) The author is Clemen I think.
Valete!
Q Fabius.
|
| Subject: |
Re: It's Crys/Be nice to me/Dr. report |
| From: |
Mater2Two@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:28:36 EST |
|
OOPS.......I had to go back and properly change some filenames....the entire
address should be lowercase
<A HREF="<a href="http://members.tripod.com/~acl_pit/roma/sodwel.htm">Sodalis" target="_top" >http://members.tripod.com/~acl_pit/roma/sodwel.htm">Sodalis</a> Pro
Infantia </A>
|
| Subject: |
Re: BALLOT DECISION - Please Read |
| From: |
Razenna razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 01 Dec 1998 17:42:53 -0800 |
|
> 3. The web address for the Voter page in Nova Roma. This will be set up for
> the current vote VERY soon... Citizens should be able to begin voting by the
> end of this week.
I went into it today and Voted. Did I spoil my ballot? Or did I just get in
early?
Ericius
|
| Subject: |
Re: Information on worship in Ancient times |
| From: |
Claudia missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 01 Dec 1998 20:45:13 -0500 |
|
Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia wrote:
>
> From: "Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia" a_i_c_nocturnia@--------
>
> Salvete
>
> I am looking for any information about Divus Augustus and the worship of
> him in Ancient times.
>
> All the books and websites I can find on Augustus focus on his life
> acheivments and those that do mention his Deification don’t say much
> about it.
>
> If you know of any books or websites that would be of use I would be
> extremely grateful to have them.
>
Iulia:
I'm certainly not the last word here, but the worship of a deified
Emperor was a little different than worship of a full-fledged Olympian.
Probably not in the actual ritual, but more in the spirit of the thing.
I once read that deified Emperors were worshipped more as an honorary
thing than anything else, that they represented the personification of
the State almost like Uncle Sam represents the U.S., especially in the
more far-flung Provinciae. You know...like in wild and untamed
Brittania! (Duckin' and runnin'!)
-- Flavia Claudia
|
| Subject: |
Re: More constitutional stuff |
| From: |
Claudia missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 01 Dec 1998 20:48:24 -0500 |
|
Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia wrote:
>
> From: "Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia" a_i_c_nocturnia@--------
>
> I’m not going through the Constitution and causing trouble, I’ve just
> been reading it and picking up on things I haven’t previously noticed.
>
> I quote Article VI: Public Religious Institutions, Point 2.
>
> “Only citizens of Nova Roma may be members of the public institutions of
> the Religio Romana, which shall…”
>
> What about Priests of Cybele and Syria Dea (Atargadis)?
>
>Whoops. I think this is one of those clauses that need revision! At least, in the case of Cybele. Unless any of you guys are willing to give up...ahem...a little something!
Atargadis was a patron of slaves. Were her priests eunuchs? Can't
remember.
-- F. Claudia
|
| Subject: |
Re: More constitutional stuff |
| From: |
"Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia" a_i_c_nocturnia@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:40:28 PST |
|
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>Subject: [novaroma] Re: More constitutional stuff
>
>From: Claud----------------oon@--------
>
>Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia wrote:
>>
>> From: "Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia"
a_i_c_nocturnia@--------
>>
>> I’m not going through the Constitution and causing trouble, I’ve just
>> been reading it and picking up on things I haven’t previously
noticed.
>>
>> I quote Article VI: Public Religious Institutions, Point 2.
>>
>> “Only citizens of Nova Roma may be members of the public institutions
of
>> the Religio Romana, which shall…”
>>
>> What about Priests of Cybele and Syria Dea (Atargadis)?
>>
>>Whoops. I think this is one of those clauses that need revision! At
least, in the case of Cybele. Unless any of you guys are willing to give
up...ahem...a little something!
>
>Atargadis was a patron of slaves. Were her priests eunuchs? Can't
>remember.
>
>-- F. Claudia
>
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Yes Atargadis' priests were eunuchs
Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia
Noct'a to her friends
Materfamilias of the Plebian Gens. Iulia Casearia
Barkeep of the Papillae Lupae
__________________________________________________
To be ignorant of what has happened before your birth is to remain
always a child. For what is the meaning of a man’s life unless it is
intertwined with that of our ancestor’s by history?
Cicero
Orator 120
____________________________________________________________
You will discover Runes and imaginative staves
Very great staves, very strong staves
Which a powerful thule paited, and great Gods created
Carved by the prophet of the Gods
Hàvamàl (The words of the God Odin)
__________________________________________________
Quote of all time!
Excudent alii spirantia mollius aeracredo equidem, uiuos ducent de
marmore uoltus,orabunt causus melius, caelique meatusdescribent radio,
et surgentia sidera dicent:tu regere imperio populos, Romane,
memento;hae tibi erunt artes, pacique imponere morem,parcere subiectis,
et debellare superbos.
(Others shall mould, I doubt not, the breathing bronze more
delicatelyand draw living features out of marble, others shall plead
causes moreeloquently, trace the motions of the heavens with a rod, and
tell therisings of the stars. Thou, Roman, forget not to govern the
nationsunder thy sway. These shall be thy arts: to crown peace with law,
tospare thew conquered, and to defeat the proud.)
Vergil
__________________________________________________________
And especially for my friend Venator;
"The ill-minded man who meanly thinks,
fleers at both foul and fair;
he does not know,
as know he ought,
that he is not free from flaws."
-The Sayings of the High One
___________________________________________________________
And for those who believe they have little to offer,
"Not great things needs give to a man:
bringeth thanks oft a little thing;
with half a loaf and a half-drained cup
I won me oft worthy friend."
Havamal
|
| Subject: |
Re: BALLOT DECISION - Please Read |
| From: |
Cassius622@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:49:36 EST |
|
In a message dated 12/1/98 9:08:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
raz--------@-------- writ--------br>
<< I went into it today and Voted. Did I spoil my ballot? Or did I just get
in
early?
Ericius >>
Not to worry, your vote went fine! The system is up and running without a
hitch! :)
Vale,
Cassius
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| Subject: |
Nova pagina (web) Provinciae Italiae |
| From: |
"Fabio Incutti" incutti@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:08:55 +0100 |
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Ave Quirites,
I'd like to welcome all of you fellow citizens (and anyone else interested)
to visit the new and quite complete home page of Provincia Italiae!
The url is: <a href="http://members.it.tripod.de/Primus_Fabius/index.html" target="_top" >http://members.it.tripod.de/Primus_Fabius/index.html</a>
As you may notice, not all of the links are currently active (but they will
be soon). I've also made an attempt to create a bi-lingual page, with the
first three articles of the Constitution in Italian (the others will come).
I'm impatient to add the Latin version asap.
Moreover, the home page of Collegium Advocatorum is on its way. Anyone
interested in giving an hand (strongly accepted) will be welcome. Also, I'd
like some suggestions about the organizing of the Museum of Rome. The idea
is to make a number of links to some thematic pages (ex: daily life, law,
war, architecture, ships, etc.), containing materials and links to other
sites. I'd appreciate help on this topic too.
Valete.
Primus Fabius C.
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Mihi Fortuna Adiuvat, Invidia Perit
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| Subject: |
End of pre-election period |
| From: |
"Fabio Incutti" incutti@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:49:45 +0100 |
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Ave quirites,
what's going to happen with the beginning of the elections? As far as I've
understood election will last for a while: will candidates end their
campains? I hope that they will stop by themselves, but quid juris if they
don't? And how to discriminate "sponsoring" messages from all the other
stuff posted to the list? None is going to shut up candidates, but what if
any of them attempts to "push" his/her result during elections?
Valete.
Primus Fabius C.
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Mihi Fortuna Adiuvat, Invidia Perit
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