| Subject: |
Re: Okay, I couldn't resist... |
| From: |
missmoon missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 01:43:11 -0500 |
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michael marconi wrote:
>
> If your looking for the one and true God
No, but I AM looking for a good set of speakers...
> II. Than you will more than likely, as I have, experience the truth. God
> is far greater than any of your false deities.
Even MICHAEL JORDAN??? Never!
Deities with falsies? Are we talkin' silicone, or just good ol'
fashioned foam rubber?
> Pluralism? Jesus claimed to be "the light of the world" and "the
> bread of life."
Umm. Did he say pumpernickle or 7-grain?
He said things like this: "You are from beneath; I am
> from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world."
This is TRUE! I saw it on X-Files!
> Jesus warned his disciples: "He who loves father or mother more than
> me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter more than me
> is not worthy of me. And he who will not take up his cross and follow
> me is not worthy of me."
So did Jim Jones, I think. Take up your Kool-Aid and follow me, he said.
> Can't we all just get along? Isn't being nice what Christianity is
> all about?
Not the kind you practice, I notice.
"Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth; I
> came to bring not peace, but a sword.
Great! Will he bring me one?? I could use a real good Gladius.
For I have come to set a man at
> odds with his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the
> daughter-in-law against the mother-in-law.
This is news? I saw this on Melrose Place.
And a man's enemies will
> be those of his own household."
Damn. Good help is sure hard to find.
>
> "Whoever looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery
> with her in his heart." You can't get much more puritanical than
> that!
>
Or more Presidential! Just ask Jimmy Carter!
> "So if your hand or your foot offends you, cut them off, and throw
> them away," he said. "And if your eye offends you, tear it out and
> throw it away."
EEEEUUUWWWW! Is this a religious tract or a Stephen King short story?
And you shouldn't throw perfectly good parts away when you can get big
bucks for 'em on the Transplant Black Market. "Got any livers?" "Go
fish!"
>
> Tolerance? He told his apostles: "And whoever will not receive you,
> nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake
> the dust off your feet;
My Mom told me always to wipe my feet before coming into the house,too.
Little did I know she was being Scripturally Correct!
>
> One trembles to say it, but all in all, Jesus probably wouldn't
> qualify for membership in People for the American Way.
Sure he would! I'm a member and I'd sponsor him myself!
The Christian
> Right is at least much more in his style.
I'd love to hear HIS opinion on that.
>
> After 2,000 years, Jesus is still hated.
He is? First I'd heard of it. I thought he was a pretty nice guy,
myself.
> what he was and is; nobody today hates Julius Caesar
Caesar doesn't
> trouble you about your soul.
No,but he did pass on a few rather embarrassing little social diseases,
that scamp.
>
>
> It comes down to this: Do we have souls, or not? If not, no problem.
> But what if we do?
If we do, I sure hope Dis takes MINE 'cause I certainly don't want to
share any heaven with YOU.
-- Flavia Claudia
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| Subject: |
Re: Catholicism and Christianity |
| From: |
LSergAust@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 07:43:27 EST |
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>From: "A. Iulia" iuliacaesaria@--------
>
>
>> Actually, Catholics are Christians. There are several sects of
>Catholicism
>> (Roman, Anglican,
>
>Actually Anglicans are Church of England - protestants.
>They just tend to be very high CofE so confusing them with Catholics
>is easy LOL
>
>>
>> Vartarius Quentius
>> www.livinghistory.org
>
>Noct'a
Actually, "Anglicans" ARE Catholic, technically. They were the English
branch of the Catholic Church back when Henry VIII(was it?) withdrew
recognition of the Pope as the head of the Church in England because the
Pope wouldn't grant him a divorce (and because all that Church property
in England looked really good to a bankrupt king). Even though several
hundred years have allowed them to drift apart in various details of
liturgy and doctrine, the Anglican sacraments are still recognized as
valid by the Church of Rome (with one exception I can't recall). The CoE
was never a part of the "Protestant Reformation" -- they broke away for
the sake of Henry's hormones rather than over any matters of religious
doctrine. :-)
That's why "High Anglican" services look so Catholic.
L. Sergius Aust.
certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse.
(You know, Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.)
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| Subject: |
Re: Yule Celebrations(reports from around the globe) |
| From: |
Asseri@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 10:09:02 EST |
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In a message dated 12/25/98 11:25:59 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
jmath669642reng@-------- --------es:
<< Hmmmmm, well thanks anyway!! I had a great Saturn---uhhhhh Holiday!!!
Thought I was too old for this!! Thanks everyone!!! It was agreat
holiday, and all the gifts that I received didn't come in red wrapping
paper. May the Season be as kind to you as it has to me!!!
M. Minucius (Audens) / Jim Mathews
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!! >>
Oh what a nice post! SO did any body get any Roman theme gifts like I did!
I got the movie "fall of the Roman Empire"
An old book call "A History of Rome to 565 ad" printed in 1925 by Arthur e.r.
Boak Ph.D.
well I need to go stir my own bean soup that is simmering on t he stove. I add
chopped carrots, onions and tomato. I will make corn bread to go with that
too. Darn but I don't have an honey though....
Getting hungry
P.A. Olivia
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| Subject: |
Re: Ousting |
| From: |
Mater2Two@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 10:23:41 EST |
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In a message dated 98-12-26 01:01:19 EST, you write:
> If this means I get ousted instead, then so be it.
> I cannot
> > bear sharing my beloved Nova Roma with that man anyway. So I guess
> one of us
> > has to go.
> >
> > Crys (packiing just in case)
>
>
>
> You NOT go!!!!!!!!
> We want you here!
>
> Noct'a
That's sweet. Unfortunatly, while my delete key works fine, I am still pretty
miffed at Marconis. It would be nice to have some way to screen incoming Nova
Roma members. Censorship?? Maybe, but what's to stop Marconis (or some other
psycho fundie, Christian or otherwise) from bringing in more and more like
him? Shall the Pagans simply convert now, or maybe we could just clean up the
mailing list by never mentioning anything that may offend then do the same
with the Taverna. No more sexual inuenos(although I may have missed the ones
that offended, or I just don't offend very well), no more kidding around -- we
stick to the facts, the history as it relates to Roma and Rome only. This way
no one is ever insulted. Then, it would be SO boring, I would unsub from the
list at least. This list is my entertainment. Oh well, go figure. I would
have to wait for the "uppers" to figure it out and make any adjustments. LOL
I should live so long!!
Crys (still packed and waiting for instruction)
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| Subject: |
Re: Marconius'Catholic post |
| From: |
Mater2Two@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 10:23:38 EST |
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In a message dated 98-12-26 00:12:08 EST, you write:
> I just thought you all might like to know that Marcus' diatribe was
> copied from the "tradcath" list, and is a syndicated column by Joseph
> Sobran.
>
> So he did not actually author it...he copied it and bestowed it upon
> us...which is even more peculiar....
I noticed that. Less points for creativity from me.
Crys
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| Subject: |
Re: Yule Celebrations |
| From: |
"Lucius" vergil@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 10:34:34 -0500 |
|
I just wanted to share some thoughts with friends here in Nova Roma
regarding the Season,
My views of the Holiday have always been pretty conservative during this
particular holiday, I had a pretty good childhood as a kid and grew up
pretty selfish and self-centered, until the Navy took all that away,
My first Christmas Eve, guarding a deserted pier, with a miserable barge
and broken ship moored thereto under the cold lights of the Walt Whitman
Bridge in a mediocre New Jersey Ciity across the Delaware River from
South Philadelphia.
Ave et Salvete
<G> Gee thanks for bringing these fond memories back :-)
No! really, you have a gift of painting verbal pictures. Thanks for the
essay!
We have not had a Tree in our house for more years than I remember. I
like to see them growing rather than tossed out all brown and dead.
Vale L Equitius
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| Subject: |
Re: religious matters |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 10:41:05 EST |
|
In a me--------e dated 12/25/98 5:13:20 PM EST, legion6@-------- write--------r>
<< Not only are such messages insulting to Roman Paganism, they
are also insulting to intelligent Christianity. I know what I believe,
but I 'm not about to jump in someone's face uninvited and say "The
Universe must needs be what I think it is and I know all about it". It
is this attitude which, I think, has made so many of my fellow Nova
Romans leery of having Christian members in their midst. >>
You sir, are an inspiration!
Merry Christmas to ya!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Jesus and the Liberals( or those that are blasphamious) |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 10:47:33 EST |
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In a message dated 12/25/98 6:05:57 PM EST, MikeMa--------r@-------- writes:
<< Dexippus is therefore right that the matter should in the first instance go
to the Senate. But do you really want to make it an "accusatio", Dex? Under
classical roman law the accuser risked, if the accused was found not
guilty, the penalty for the crime alleged...
>>
Then So Be It! Lucius Marconius Romanus has violated at least two articles of
our constitution on two accounts:
By first calling for a "return to moral standards" on a list that has always
been open to the freedom of expression and inserting his own personal
religious views as an authority.
And by his most recent post preaching his own religious views and condemming
in an adverse manner those of others not so inclined.
The articles I speak of:
Article I Sec. 2 which states Nova Roma's primary functions shall be to
promote the study and practice of the Ancient Roman Pagan Religion
Article VI Sec. 1 which states that , Citizens need not be practitioners
of the Religio Romano, BUT may not engage in any activity that
intentionally blasphemes or defames the Gods, the Religio Romana, or its
practitioners.
I hereby request the immediate dismissal of Lucius Marconius Romanus. If you
wish to follow traditional Roman law and expel me if after finding this
disruptor not guilty...Then so be it! I do not wish to remain in an
organization or on a list that tolerates in the least, or allows in the most,
such behaviour and hate.
--Damianus Lucianus Dexippus
Paterfamilias Gens Lucianus
Augur Nova Roma
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| Subject: |
Re: Yule Celebrations(reports from around the globe) |
| From: |
Mater2Two@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 10:49:24 EST |
|
In a message dated 98-12-26 10:09:35 EST, you write:
> From: Asseri@--------
>
> In a message dated 12/25/98 11:25:59 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> jmath669642reng@-------- --------es:
>
> << Hmmmmm, well thanks anyway!! I had a great Saturn---uhhhhh Holiday!!!
> Thought I was too old for this!! Thanks everyone!!! It was agreat
> holiday, and all the gifts that I received didn't come in red wrapping
> paper. May the Season be as kind to you as it has to me!!!
>
> M. Minucius (Audens) / Jim Mathews
>
> Fair Winds and Following Seas!!! >>
>
> Oh what a nice post! SO did any body get any Roman theme gifts like I
did!
>
> I got the movie "fall of the Roman Empire"
> An old book call "A History of Rome to 565 ad" printed in 1925 by Arthur
e.r.
>
> Boak Ph.D.
OH YES IT WAS!!!!!!! Audens speaks so elequently!!!
I recieved a wonderful, beautiful card from gens Cassius and 2 lovely
necklaces. A Roman coin pendant and a Cornucopia. It was a wonderful
holiday!!!!!
I also sent a card to NR as a whole (couldn't make cards for all the wonderful
people I have met here who have come to mean so much).
Crys (sick, but happy)
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| Subject: |
Re: Marconius'Catholic post |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 11:03:27 EST |
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In a message dated 12/26/98 0:12:07 AM EST, kingan@-------- writes:
<< I just thought you all might like to know that Marcus' diatribe was
copied from the "tradcath" list, and is a syndicated column by Joseph
Sobran.
So he did not actually author it...he copied it and bestowed it upon
us...which is even more peculiar.... >>
Which makes no difference. He signed his name to it...he made it clear that
it was his beliefs as well...and he made no consentions to the Pagans on this
list.
By our Constitution he needs to be removed from this organization.
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Ousting |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 11:09:26 EST |
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In --------ss--------d-------- 12/26/98 10:23:46 AM EST, M--------2Two@-------- writes:
<< No more sexual inuenos(although I may have missed the ones
that offended, or I just don't offend very well), no more kidding around --
we
stick to the facts, the history as it relates to Roma and Rome only. This
way
no one is ever insulted. Then, it would be SO boring, I would unsub from the
list at least. >>
I too would leave in a heartbeat!
--Dexippus
EXPEL LUCIUS MARCONIUS ROMANUS!
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| Subject: |
Re: Marconius'Catholic post |
| From: |
"Lucius" vergil@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 12:56:01 -0500 |
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Avete Quirites
><< I just thought you all might like to know that Marcus' diatribe was
> copied from the "tradcath" list, and is a syndicated column by Joseph
> Sobran.
> So he did not actually author it...he copied it and bestowed it upon
> us...which is even more peculiar.... >>
>
>Which makes no difference. He signed his name to it...he made it clear
that
>it was his beliefs as well...and he made no consentions to the Pagans on
this
>list.
>By our Constitution he needs to be removed from this
organization.--Dexippus
>
I am not Consul until next week, which means that I cannot yet
convene the Senate for a vote, but I am Flamen Martialis, priest of the
guardian deity of Roma, and as such I pronounce Lucius Marconius Romanus,
'Sacer' to Mars.
Since we cannot actually sacrifice him under civil law for his
blasphemies, I will vote for the revocation of his citizenship when either
of the Consuls calls the Senate for a vote on this matter or in the New Year
when either I or my Co-consul proposes that he be Exiled for the following.
Which does violate Art. VI sec.1 of the Constitution.
1."Apparently you most believe that it is perfectly all right for to bash
Christianity, and at the same time too hell with those that show displeasure
in your conglomeration of myths and folk tales which you have the audacity
to call a religion or a God. "
2."If your looking for the one and true God than (sic) I highly advise you
to
put away your old foolishness and pride and turn your hearts towards the
traditional Catholic latin mass- "
3."AT LEAST JESUS HAD WALKED THE EARTH AND HAD PERFORMED DOCUMENTED
MIRACLES- you surly (sic) could not say likewise for the likes of Thor,
Poseidon, Mercury,Diana.."
I am so SORRY! I had mistaken L M R for a valuable citizen in the
past. I had agreed with him, Privately, that some of the posts to the list
were not 'Pietas' et 'Pudicita', I was then morified to see what he had
done. However, He has shown himself to be no friend of Nova Roma but instead
against us.
Valete, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus, Praetor Urbanus et Flamen Martialis
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| Subject: |
Yule Celebrations(reports from around the globe) |
| From: |
"Gaius Marius Merullus" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 20:57:59 -0500 |
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Salvete Olivia et alii
:From: Asseri@--------
:
: Oh what a nice post! SO did any body get any Roman theme gifts like I
did!
:I got the movie "fall of the Roman Empire"
Cool movie. Sophia Loren, right?
:An old book call "A History of Rome to 565 ad" printed in 1925 by Arthur
e.r.
:Boak Ph.D.
Please check back with us and let us know your imressions of the book.
I received two different translations of Caesar's De Gallico Bello, from the
same friend. He knows that I am into Rome, and he is much more knowledgable
about American and modern than classical history, and so the two different
titles tricked him. The upshot of this is, he may be persuaded to exchange
one of the books, and come with me to Shoenof's Foreign Bookstore in
Cambridge to pick up a Latin text.
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
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| Subject: |
Trees was Yule Celebrations |
| From: |
"Gaius Marius Merullus" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 21:06:01 -0500 |
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Salvete Luci Equiti et alii
I feel the same way, but most people seem to feel differently. My wife and
I have not had a tree in the few years that we have been together for the
holidays, but we have decided, at her initiative, to change that next year
when we have a child in the house.
It is almost as though we were sacrificing the tree to the child....
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
: We have not had a Tree in our house for more years than I remember. I
:like to see them growing rather than tossed out all brown and dead.
: Vale L Equitius
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| Subject: |
Re: Latin phrases |
| From: |
legion6@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 26 Dec 1998 22:35:31 -0600 (CST) |
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Salve, Minuci Audens...salvete, omnes!
I've had a few requests for the publication data for Henry Beard's two
humorous English-to-Latin phrasebooks. OK, I know when I'm licked...so
here goes:
Beard, Henry. _Latin for All Occasions/Lingua Latina Occasionibus
Omnibus_. NY: Villard, 1990.
ISBN 0-394-58660-3
-same dude-. _Latin for Even More Occasions/Lingua Latina Multo
Pluribus Occasionibus_. NY: Villard, 1991.
ISBN 0-679-40674-3
I still see these in the Foreign Language section at Barnes & Noble,
Half-Price Books, Crown Books, Book Stop, Borders, and other stores.
I'm pretty sure you can get them online too.
Yours in Rome's service...
---
__________ _<~) __________
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///\\\ Role-playing Games, too!
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