Forum Romanum


Subject:	Re: Tertullian and others online
From:	Diana/Orbianna proserpina@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:59:28 -0500

Awesome page! Thanks for the link!

Orbianna

At 11:38 13/01/99 -0000, you wrote:
>From: "Antonio Grilo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a>
>
>Salve!
>
>>Has anyone checked out the site at <a href="http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/" target="_top" >http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/</a>
>?
>I have! Great site!
>
>Vale!
>
>Antonius Gryllus Graecus
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RMerullo <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a>
>To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
>Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 10:37 PM
>Subject: [novaroma] Tertullian and others online
>
>
>>From: "RMerullo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a>
>>
>>Salvete omnes
>>
>>The forum has been pretty quiet lately, and so I thought that I might
>chance
>>redundancy by posting something:
>>
>>Has anyone checked out the site at <a href="http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/" target="_top" >http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/</a>
>?
>>
>>There are excerpts from a quite a few classical texts there. One that I
>>read is by Tertullian, but there is a lot more there.
>>
>>Valete
>>
>>Gaius Marius Merullus
>>
>>
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Iustina Luciania Orbianna
Gens Luciania
Citizen of Nova Roma

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<a href="http://www.geocities.com/soho/studios/7401" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/soho/studios/7401</a>
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"Scientia est potentia." -Francis Bacon

"Pax Cererem nutrit, Pacis alumna Ceres" -Ovid "Fasti" 1.701-704


Subject:	Re: Look, Ma! I'm a CITIZEN!
From:	Diana/Orbianna proserpina@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:01:33 -0500

Salve, Fortunata!
Congratulations and welcome to Nova Roma! Yay! So tell us a bit about
yourself if you haven't already.

Vale,
Orbianna

At 17:59 13/01/99 -0800, you wrote:
>From: Mia Soderquist <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=189075253209082116184218164036129208" >tuozine@--------</a>
>
>Having lurked here and in the chat room for a little while, I am proud
>to announce that I am now an actual CITIZEN!
>
>My Roman name is Ursula Numeria Fortunata, but I intend to mainly go
>by Fortunata for short.
>
>
>Valete!
>Fortunata
>
>
>
>
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Gens Luciania
Citizen of Nova Roma

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"Pax Cererem nutrit, Pacis alumna Ceres" -Ovid "Fasti" 1.701-704


Subject:	Re: Ritual of Concordia
From:	"Antonio Grilo" amg@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:54:49 -0000

Salvete!

The Gods be with Gens Cassia! I will be far away here in Lusitania, but I
will pray to Concordia.

Valete!

Antonius Gryllus Graecus
(Propraetor ad Lusitaniam Provinciam)

-----Original Message-----
From: -------- <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 7:34 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Ritual of Concordia

>From: -------- <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
>
>Just a reminder:
>
>RITUAL OF CONCORDIA
>Saturday, January 16
>Sacred Oaks Spiritual Center
>Wells, Maine
>
>The Gens Cassia, with the help of the Chief Vestal, will perform a live
>Roman ritual honoring the goddess of harmony and agreement. Potluck
>supper to follow (sorry, no triclinium).
>
>Cost is $5 to cover rental of the space; bring food for yourself and some
>to share. PLEASE, if you plan to come and you haven't been in touch with
>me or Cassius yet, e-mail me here before noon Friday.
>
>Venator, you may not be able to make it in person, but we're going to
>serve your Chronne to the brave souls who dare to risk its effects on
>their arteries. ;)
>
>Patricia Cassia
>
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Subject:	Re: Ritual of Concordia
From:	"Joseph Bloch" jkbloch@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:56:38 -0500

Salve,

It sounds absolutely wonderful, Patricia. I only wish that we could make it
up there for the event. I hope that all involved have a great time! I'll be
sure to offer a pinch of incense to Concordia this Saturday.

Vale,

Germanicus


Subject:	Virtual lararium
From:	Claudia Aprica quinta_claudia_lucentia_aprica@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:39:41 -0800 (PST)

Salvete omnes!
Well, I'm back from my Vac, and I've been a busy girl!
I'm proud to be able to announce that a long-time pet project of
mine, creating a virtual lararium for my gens on the web, has now been
completed, and all Nova Romans are of course welcome to take a look,
at <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/1133/lares.html" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/1133/lares.html</a>
Obviously a lararium is primarily a private family shrine, but
there's no reason as far as I'm concerned why anybody shouldn't leave
offerings if they feel they want to. If people like the format and the
artwork, they're also welcome to copy both the jpgs and the HTML code
to create virtual shrines of their own (this includes on the main Nova
Roma site, if anyone's interested). However, if anyone does copy the
shrine, I'd welcome a credit and a link back to my page from yours,
and also an e-mail to let me know you've used it.
I'd particularly welcome feedback of any kind on this shrine.
I've created it on a relatively new browser (Netscape Communicator
4.0), and using a high resolution monitor, so I've no idea what it'll
look like on older browsers - it could look awful. If anyone gets
something which is obviously a mess when they log in to it, could they
let me know what's wrong with it, and I'll try to adapt things so that
as many browsers as possible show it as I intended. I'd also love to
know how to make the jpgs into transparencies, so that the columns,
pediment and pedestal of the shrine stand directly against the lilac
background of my page, instead of in little white rectangles, as they
are doing now.
Anyway, enough techno-babble for now (apologies)! Go check out my
shrine, and please let me know what you think of it (good or bad!).
Responses are probably best e-mailed directly to me, rather than the
list, however, to avoid heavy traffic.
Valete!
Aprica.

==
**********************************************************************
Drop in on my gens - <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/1133" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/1133</a>
**********************************************************************


Subject:	Roman Law Sites
From:	Mike Macnair MikeMacnair@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:05:19 -0500

Salvete omnes,

I guess the informal law committee will already know about these, but for
the benefit of others I've found the following sites have some interesting
stuff on Roman Law:

<a href="http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~law113/rl/rl.htm" target="_top" >http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~law113/rl/rl.htm</a> (Roman Law centre at Aberdeen Uni)

<a href="http://www.jura.uni-sb.de/Rechtsgeschichte/Ius.Romanum/english.html" target="_top" >http://www.jura.uni-sb.de/Rechtsgeschichte/Ius.Romanum/english.html</a>
(similar site at Saarbrucken, in several languages including Latin).

Valete,

M. Mucius Scaevola Magister


Subject:	A funny reference to a divine Emperor
From:	"RMerullo" rmerullo@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:25:12 -0500

Salvete omnes

In my humble attempt to become Roman-law-literate (Scaevola, if you are
there, I meant to say rescripts, not reverts!), I was reading Justinian's
Institutiones. It struck me as odd that he refers to Antoninus Pius as
"divus". In Book I, chapter VIII, DE HIS QUI SUI VEL ALIENI IURIS SUNT
Justinian wrote: "..nam ex constitutione divi Pii Antonini qui sine causa
servum suum occiderit..." which means "for by the laws of (the Divine --
title applied to deified emperors, right?) Antoninus Pius he who had killed
his slave without cause..."

Why would Justinian refer to Antoninus Pius this way? Had the word "divus"
really lost so much meaning by Justinian's time that it could be used in
such an important context without causing some confusion?

Full text of Justinian's Institutiones is at
<a href="http://www.gmu.edu/departments/fld/CLASSICS/" target="_top" >http://www.gmu.edu/departments/fld/CLASSICS/</a> .

Valete

Gaius Marius Merullus


Subject:	From the Senate board
From:	"Lucius" vergil@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:00:59 -0500

Salve, Flavia Claudia

Germanicus says the same thing about Lucia Maria Fimbria
exactly, just substitute one name for the other.
So am I to do like he did last year and make up some blah blah blah
speach,
really not knowing any more about the cadidate than what I have learned from
the
Internet. At least these people are involved and have been citizens as along
as or longer than Flavius Vedius
____________________________________________________________
Valete Conscript Fathers and Mother,

I withold my vote pending a recitation of the qualifications of
Gaius Drusus Domitianus for the position. I don't think it's too
much to ask that the Senator calling for a vote to appoint
someone to a position give some sort of reason why they should be
appointed.

And I quite frankly am distressed that my fellow Senators have
voted on this appointment without any presentation of the
qualifications for the individual in question to assume the
office. Are we to merely rubber-stamp everything the current
Consul wishes to enact?

As I recall, my calls for position appointments were always
accompanied by at least a brief summary of why the person should
be appointed. I urge the new Consul not to be lax in his
responsibilities.

Vale,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus


Subject:	A funny reference to a divine Emperor
From:	Mike Macnair MikeMacnair@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:22:04 -0500

Merullus wrote that

>Justinian wrote:

[the actual writing was done by a panel of lawyers whoJustinian appointed]

>"..nam ex constitutione divi Pii Antonini qui sine causa
>servum suum occiderit..." which means "for by the laws of (the Divine --
>title applied to deified emperors, right?) Antoninus Pius he who had
killed
>his slave without cause..."

>Why would Justinian refer to Antoninus Pius this way? Had the word
"divus"
>really lost so much meaning by Justinian's time that it could be used in
>such an important context without causing some confusion?

I think, though I can't now remember where I read it, that the later
empire went on referring to Emperors as "Divus" but squared it with the
theology by making it mean "divinely inspired". But in this case it could
equally well be just lawyers' conservatism about forms and titles: e.g.
Anglo-American lawyers still talk about the "fee simple" (feudal tenure) to
mean landownership in some contexts. Some literature I've read recently
also suggests that Justinian's compilation had a strongly retro/ nostalgic
character and hence the Digest preserves some stuff which was wholly
obsolete.

M. Mucius Scaevola Magister


Subject:	Why is this here? (was Re: Senate Board)
From:	JusticeCMO@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:20:14 EST

Salve,

I am a bit confused. The subject header on Cinncinatus' message states that
it comes from the SEnate Board. ::scratches head::

I, for one, am not a Senator, and therefore am unused to receiving messages
from the Senate Board. In point of fact, it seems downright weird to have
messages here on the *public*/**regular-old-citizen* board that seem to
rrelate directly to (and only to) Senators.

The original message sent by Germanicus was sent not here, but to the Senate
Board. I have serious suspicions as to why Cinncinatus chose to reply to it
here. Could it be he merely captialized on the opportunity to publicly slur
Germanicus? I would sincerely hope he is not of such low manners.

Bottom line.....his response didn't belong here. Request to ALL
Senators......please keep Senatorial discussion/spats where they belong. I am
confident that when there is information we citizens do need (and not personal
squabbles/disagreements that *some* want publicized) we will be told
accordingly.

Vale,

Priscilla Vedia Serena


Subject:	Re: From the Senate board
From:	FJGA@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:22:13 EST

I've got to tell of you straight I'm getting abit disgusted by the constant
politicing I'm seeing. Can't anyone speak like a normal human being and
realize that every situation is not a friggen crisis?

Metellus


Subject:	Re: Why is this here? (was Re: Senate Board)
From:	"Lucius" vergil@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:33:51 -0500

Salvete Omnes

We are having Problems with the BeSeen boards and not all the
Senatores can gain access to them, This was a mistaken addess that is all.

>
>I am a bit confused. The subject header on Cinncinatus' message states
that
>it comes from the SEnate Board. ::scratches head::
>
>I, for one, am not a Senator, and therefore am unused to receiving messages
>from the Senate Board. In point of fact, it seems downright weird to have
>messages here on the *public*/**regular-old-citizen* board that seem to
>rrelate directly to (and only to) Senators.
>
>The original message sent by Germanicus was sent not here, but to the
Senate
>Board. I have serious suspicions as to why Cinncinatus chose to reply to
it
>here. Could it be he merely captialized on the opportunity to publicly
slur
>Germanicus? I would sincerely hope he is not of such low manners.
>
>Bottom line.....his response didn't belong here. Request to ALL
>Senators......please keep Senatorial discussion/spats where they belong. I
am
>confident that when there is information we citizens do need (and not
personal
>squabbles/disagreements that *some* want publicized) we will be told
>accordingly.
>
>Vale,
>
>Priscilla Vedia Serena

Hope nobody else makes a mistake too.

Valete L Equitius Cincinnatus


Subject:	Re: From the Senate board
From:	missmoon missmoon@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:00:23 -0500

For a brief time, I was able to get into the Senate board and I saw his
message. I refuse to let these snide comments of his go unanswered, and
left the following message. We need to start treating each other with
civility -- I don't care HOW dirty things got in Ancient Rome.
-- FC

:Valete Conscript Fathers and Mother,
:
:And I quite frankly am distressed that my fellow Senators have
:voted on this appointment without any presentation of the
:qualifications for the individual in question to assume the
:office. Are we to merely rubber-stamp everything the current
:Consul wishes to enact?
:

And I'm distressed that you don't know the two candidates any
better than you do. The rest of us know them. We've taken the time
to exchange messages with them and read their posts. Since we DO
know them, there is no need for a lengthy list of qualifications.
If you have doubts, there's nothing stopping you from asking the
Candidates yourself and addressing specific issues.

And the "rubber-stamping" comment is WAY out of line. As is the
remark about the new Consul being "lax in his responsibilities."
If you're accusing the Consul, please be specific. If you're not,
you owe him an apology for the implication.

:As I recall, my calls for position appointments were always
:accompanied by at least a brief summary of why the person should
:be appointed. I urge the new Consul not to be lax in his
:responsibilities.

Sigh. Yes. We know. You did everything perfectly and we're a bunch
of ignorant slobs. We'll have to live with it, I guess.

-- Flavia Claudia


Subject:	Re: Why is this here? (was Re: Senate Board)
From:	missmoon missmoon@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:19:43 -0500

<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=173075066165082194184241189100114253071048139" >JusticeCMO@--------</--------; wrote:
>
> The original message sent by Germanicus was sent not here, but to the Senate
> Board. I have serious suspicions as to why Cinncinatus chose to reply to it
> here. Could it be he merely captialized on the opportunity to publicly slur
> Germanicus? I would sincerely hope he is not of such low manners.

Yes. It's a plot. Cincinnatus arranged with BeSeen to screw up the
message boards, so that he could post to the list and reply via the
wrong button, which is something that has NEVER happened on this list
before! BTW, I have PROOF that Cincinnatus is also the Lone Gunman, and
I'm pretty sure he's the real Unabomber, too. Also, he's actually
Marconius -- he just used an alias. That scamp.

>
> Bottom line.....his response didn't belong here. Request to ALL
> Senators......please keep Senatorial discussion/spats where they belong. I am
> confident that when there is information we citizens do need (and not personal
> squabbles/disagreements that *some* want publicized) we will be told
> accordingly.

And the people say that we never let them know what's going on!!!
See folks? Nothing happens in the Senate that doesn't happen here! And
if we're ashamed of the people hearing it, we shouldn't be saying it.

The new consuls haven't even been in office an entire month and they've
already been accused of being lax in their responsibilities and wanting
the Senate to rubber-stamp thier every proposals. (Lucius and Decius,
you power-mad Dictators, you!) At least give them a CHANCE to mess up
before they're accused. Talk about low manners.

-- Flavia Claudia


Subject:	Re: From the Senate board
From:	"Joseph Bloch" jkbloch@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:00:55 -0500

Salve,

In the spirit of the upcoming celebration in honor of Concordia, I will
defer answering this message until later, and then it will be in private,
where this whole thing should have stayed in the first place.

Vale,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus
Co-Founder, Senator

-----Original Message-----
From: m--------oon <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 6:02 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: From the Senate board

>From: m--------oon <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a>
>
>For a brief time, I was able to get into the Senate board and I saw his
>message. I refuse to let these snide comments of his go unanswered, and
>left the following message. We need to start treating each other with
>civility -- I don't care HOW dirty things got in Ancient Rome.
>-- FC
>
>
>
>:Valete Conscript Fathers and Mother,
> :
> :And I quite frankly am distressed that my fellow Senators have
> :voted on this appointment without any presentation of the
> :qualifications for the individual in question to assume the
> :office. Are we to merely rubber-stamp everything the current
> :Consul wishes to enact?
> :
>
> And I'm distressed that you don't know the two candidates any
> better than you do. The rest of us know them. We've taken the time
> to exchange messages with them and read their posts. Since we DO
> know them, there is no need for a lengthy list of qualifications.
> If you have doubts, there's nothing stopping you from asking the
> Candidates yourself and addressing specific issues.
>
> And the "rubber-stamping" comment is WAY out of line. As is the
> remark about the new Consul being "lax in his responsibilities."
> If you're accusing the Consul, please be specific. If you're not,
> you owe him an apology for the implication.
>
> :As I recall, my calls for position appointments were always
> :accompanied by at least a brief summary of why the person should
> :be appointed. I urge the new Consul not to be lax in his
> :responsibilities.
>
> Sigh. Yes. We know. You did everything perfectly and we're a bunch
> of ignorant slobs. We'll have to live with it, I guess.
>
> -- Flavia Claudia
>
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Subject:	Re: Ritual of Concordia
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:55:20 EST

In a message dated 1/14/99 2:34:03 PM EST, <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a> writes:

<< ust a reminder:

RITUAL OF CONCORDIA
Saturday, January 16
Sacred Oaks Spiritual Center
Wells, Maine >>

I wish you all a very happy Concordia and a successful ritual! Please let me
know how it all went. And I want to see pictures on the website soon after.

Although I may not be able to be there in person, I will definately be there
in spirit. So everytime you feel something tickly your butts...think of me!
: )

--Dexippus


Subject:	Re: Virtual lararium
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:58:16 EST

In a message dated 1/14/99 3:40:52 PM EST,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=053075020185175031223102001140243115239144190179017171173211025056109087020150170193201077179247241163050" >quinta_claudia_lucentia_aprica@--------</a> writes:

<< If people like the format and the
artwork, they're also welcome to copy both the jpgs and the HTML code
to create virtual shrines of their own (this includes on the main Nova
Roma site, if anyone's interested). >>

I think a virtual shrine of some sort should be on the Nova Roma web page
where citizens and visitors can leave offerings or prayers. Perhaps a shrine
to the Penates Publicis or something state related?

--Dexippus


Subject:	Re: From the Senate board
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:11:35 EST

In a m--------g--------t--------/14/99 5:00:53 PM EST, <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a> writ--------br>
<< Germanicus says the same thing about Lucia Maria Fimbria
exactly, just substitute one name for the other.
So am I to do like he did last year and make up some blah blah blah
speach,
really not knowing any more about the cadidate than what I have learned from
the
Internet. At least these people are involved and have been citizens as along
as or longer than Flavius Vedius >>

This is all news to me! Who got a senate appointment? And why? I guess I
would like to know when and why someon is appointed to the Senate. If for
nothing else, it's good PR.

--Dexippus


Subject:	Re: Ritual of Concordia
From:	Megas-Robinson amgunn@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:48:07 -0600

Komdu Bless et Salvete Omnes!

I am pleased to be represented in Spirit at the "Ritus Concordia." I shall
be sure to lift the Mead Horn to Her and All my Roman Friends on Saturday. I
shall do so at High Noon central time.

Valete Amicae and Vertu Saell - Venator/Piparskegg

jane wrote:

> From: -------- <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
>
> Just a reminder:
>
> RITUAL OF CONCORDIA
> Saturday, January 16
> Sacred Oaks Spiritual Center
> Wells, Maine
>
> The Gens Cassia, with the help of the Chief Vestal, will perform a live
> Roman ritual honoring the goddess of harmony and agreement. Potluck
> supper to follow (sorry, no triclinium).
>
> Cost is $5 to cover rental of the space; bring food for yourself and some
> to share. PLEASE, if you plan to come and you haven't been in touch with
> me or Cassius yet, e-mail me here before noon Friday.
>
> Venator, you may not be able to make it in person, but we're going to
> serve your Chronne to the brave souls who dare to risk its effects on
> their arteries. ;)
>
> Patricia Cassia
>
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Subject:	Re: From the Senate board
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:18:15 EST

In a m--------g--------t--------/14/99 7:04:45 PM EST, <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=045202250078193194170218163036129208" >jkbloch@--------</a> writ--------br>
<< In the spirit of the upcoming celebration in honor of Concordia, I will
defer answering this message until later, and then it will be in private,
where this whole thing should have stayed in the first place. >>

Go on Girls! Get those wigs on and sharpen those stiletto heals! I wanna see
a good cat fight! : )

--Dexippus
<<MEOW>>


Subject:	Re: Why is this here? (was Re: Senate Board)
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:16:32 EST

In a message dated 1/14/99 7:00:47 PM EST, <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a> wr--------:

<< Yes. It's a plot. Cincinnatus arranged with BeSeen to screw up the
message boards, so that he could post to the list and reply via the
wrong button, which is something that has NEVER happened on this list
before! BTW, I have PROOF that Cincinnatus is also the Lone Gunman, and
I'm pretty sure he's the real Unabomber, too. >>

I also heard he shot John Lennon!

--Dexippus


Subject:	Re: Virtual lararium
From:	"Joseph Bloch" jkbloch@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:19:53 -0500

Salve,

>I think a virtual shrine of some sort should be on the Nova Roma web page
>where citizens and visitors can leave offerings or prayers. Perhaps a
shrine
>to the Penates Publicis or something state related?
>
>--Dexippus

Now there's a terrific idea! I especially like the "virtual prayer book"
that was on the virtual lararium. I'd love to see something akin to Quinta
Claudia Lucentia Aprica's original virtual lararium up on the web site.

Maybe a shrine to Roma Herself? Hel, we could have a whole Virtual Forum.
The Pantheon, shrines to a bunch of different Gods, an entry to the Senate
(to see what issues are being talked about and what various votes are). This
could be verrrrry interesting.

Patricia, how are you at virtual reality modeling? I recently got Bryce 3D
and have been playing with it (it's a 3D graphics program that's terrific
with generating buildings and terrain). We could do some groovy things with
modeled buildings and temples.

Vale,

Germanicus


Subject:	Re: Here we go loop-de-loop! (was Re: Why is this here?) (was Re: Senate Board)
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:47:50 -0800

Sorry guys. The cats slipped out of the bag for a while there. Fess up. What is
Domitianus being considered for? That little bombette didn't say that. Someone has
already jumped over a conclusion. So just tell us poor, iggerent, common citizens
what, and maybe we won't start any wild rumors. Then again, it might be too late
already. I'm sure some of you folks in the bordered togae will be lurking in the
chat room, ready to come in with the valium vinum and tranquilizer pila... Come on!
Out with it! Nova Roma doesn't have a dog catcher (yet?). I'm sure it isn't
Dictator. If it's something as mundane as a praetorship for one of the unsubdued
Provinces, I suggest you jazz it up a bit. We mob types want something Juicy! How
about a back room cabal to appoint him Arbiter of Fashion over Dexippus. That would
be worthy of the big headlines, and maybe a hair pulling fight to for a grand
finale!
[The real paranoiac, conspiracy theory part of my half fried brain just thought that
the whole thing, starting with the so-called "slip" (nudge-nudge) was an intentional
act stemming from a long of plotting to liven up what has been a quite list for the
last few weeks. But the again, one of you might have planted this thought im my
mind while I was typing the first part of this ...]

Ericius

"Never mind..."

Ana Rosanna Danna

missmoon wrote:

> From: m--------oon <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a>
>
> <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=173075066165082194184241189100114253071048139" >JusticeCMO@--------</--------; wrote:
> >
> > The original message sent by Germanicus was sent not here, but to the Senate
> > Board. I have serious suspicions as to why Cinncinatus chose to reply to it
> > here. Could it be he merely captialized on the opportunity to publicly slur
> > Germanicus? I would sincerely hope he is not of such low manners.
>
> Yes. It's a plot. Cincinnatus arranged with BeSeen to screw up the
> message boards, so that he could post to the list and reply via the
> wrong button, which is something that has NEVER happened on this list
> before! BTW, I have PROOF that Cincinnatus is also the Lone Gunman, and
> I'm pretty sure he's the real Unabomber, too. Also, he's actually
> Marconius -- he just used an alias. That scamp.
>
> >
> > Bottom line.....his response didn't belong here. Request to ALL
> > Senators......please keep Senatorial discussion/spats where they belong. I am
> > confident that when there is information we citizens do need (and not personal
> > squabbles/disagreements that *some* want publicized) we will be told
> > accordingly.
>
> And the people say that we never let them know what's going on!!!
> See folks? Nothing happens in the Senate that doesn't happen here! And
> if we're ashamed of the people hearing it, we shouldn't be saying it.
>
> The new consuls haven't even been in office an entire month and they've
> already been accused of being lax in their responsibilities and wanting
> the Senate to rubber-stamp thier every proposals. (Lucius and Decius,
> you power-mad Dictators, you!) At least give them a CHANCE to mess up
> before they're accused. Talk about low manners.
>
> -- Flavia Claudia
>
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Subject:	Re: Virtual lararium
From:	SFP55@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:40:45 EST

In a message dated 1/14/99 5:23:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,
<a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=045202250078193194170218163036129208" >jkbloch@--------</a> writ--------br>
<< Patricia, how are you at virtual reality modeling? I recently got Bryce 3D
and have been playing with it (it's a 3D graphics program that's terrific
with generating buildings and terrain). We could do some groovy things with
modeled buildings and temples. >>
Salvete!
As many know, I have been drawing the interior of the Tavern based on
eyewitness
discriptions of the occupants. Once the floor plan is completed, i'll start
on the walls.

Vale
Q. Fabius


Subject:	Re: Cat scratch fever for Dex
From:	missmoon missmoon@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:24:41 -0500

<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------; wrote:
>
>
>
> Go on Girls! Get those wigs on and sharpen those stiletto heals! I wanna see
> a good cat fight! : )
>
> --Dexippus
> <<MEOW>>
>
And ain't this the Arena? Ooooo-weee! Dex, you are such a rabble-rouser!

-- FC


Subject:	Re: Loopy stuff
From:	missmoon missmoon@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:42:14 -0500

Razenna wrote:
>
> From: Raz-------- <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a>
>
> Sorry guys. The cats slipped out of the bag for a while there. Fess up. What is
> Domitianus being considered for?

Well, since Rusticus has given up his wicked City ways to go back to the
farm in Latium, we felt that SOMEONE should carry on as Driver of the
Custom Chariot deVille with leopard upholstery...

> already jumped over a conclusion. So just tell us poor, iggerent, common citizens
> what, and maybe we won't start any wild rumors.

Oh yeah, like THAT'S never happened!

> about a back room cabal to appoint him Arbiter of Fashion over Dexippus. That would
> be worthy of the big headlines, and maybe a hair pulling fight

No WAY could anyone unseat the fabulous Diva Dexippina, and I'm not half
woman enough to try it! Besides, I'm wearing the wrong shoes.

> last few weeks. But the again, one of you might have planted this thought im my
> mind while I was typing the first part of this ...]
>
Uh oh, caught us! Yes, it's Senate Mind Control. While you guys thought
we were debating, we were actually sitting blissed-out and chanting,
sending incredibly powerful Senate Scientology Mind Rays to all the
Citizens. Do you, perhaps, feel the strange urge to send us money,
jewelry, expensive cars and tax-free muni bonds?

Actually we were proposing the two excellent and hardworking Citizens
for a couple of vacant posts. They've both been very unselfish of their
time and efforts. When the results are in, the Consuls will make an
announcement.

-- Flavia Claudia


Subject:	Re: Virtual lararium
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:40:13 -0800

Joseph Bloch wrote:

> From: "Jos--------Bloch" <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=045202250078193194170218163036129208" >jkbloch@--------</a>
>
> Salve,
>
> >I think a virtual shrine of some sort should be on the Nova Roma web page
> >where citizens and visitors can leave offerings or prayers. Perhaps a
> shrine
> >to the Penates Publicis or something state related?
> >
> >--Dexippus
>
> Now there's a terrific idea! I especially like the "virtual prayer book"
> that was on the virtual lararium. I'd love to see something akin to Quinta
> Claudia Lucentia Aprica's original virtual lararium up on the web site.
>
> Maybe a shrine to Roma Herself? Hel, we could have a whole Virtual Forum.
> The Pantheon, shrines to a bunch of different Gods, an entry to the Senate
> (to see what issues are being talked about and what various votes are). This
> could be verrrrry interesting.
>
> Patricia, how are you at virtual reality modeling? I recently got Bryce 3D
> and have been playing with it (it's a 3D graphics program that's terrific
> with generating buildings and terrain). We could do some groovy things with
> modeled buildings and temples.
>
> Vale,
>
> Germanicus

Gertmanicus, You did some decent work in setting up the NR web site. Do you have
the capability to work on this? [Me. I haven't got to Bonehead Scanner class
yet.]

Ericius


Subject:	Virtual Templum Martialis
From:	"Lucius" vergil@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:17:37 -0500

Salvete, Quirites
Thanks to the wonderful work of M. Mala Gangalius, novus
homo
et Gaia Mala Gangalia, nova femina, and Novi Cives, we have a virtual
Temple of Mars.

<a href="http://www2.crosswinds.net/san-francisco/~marsultor/culture/myth/mars/marsfr" target="_top" >http://www2.crosswinds.net/san-francisco/~marsultor/culture/myth/mars/marsfr</a>
m.htm?

All citizens should feel free to visit this site and all associated pages,
which are all well done.

Valete, L Equitius Cincinnatus Flamen Martialis


Subject:	Status of Crys
From:	Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@--------
Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:34:59 -0800

I spoke to Crys earlier today. She has a tentative date when Lapis will
be born. That date is Feb. 11 @ 9:30 am is her appointment. She is
unable to post to the back alley due to her computer dying. But she
wanted me to inform everyone. Please keep her in your prayers.

Vale

Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Praetor Urbanis