| Subject: |
Re: New mailing-list on ancient cooking |
| From: |
Pythia <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=200176234108158116015132190036129" >kingan@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:34:15 +0000 |
|
Julien from Switzerland!!? I just sent him some things he bought on
ebay!! I didn't know he was here in NR!! Hi Julien!
Pythia
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------; wrote:
>
> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------;
>
> Salvete!
> For the Epicurians of the nation, don't miss this.
>
> In a message dated 1/26/99 2:28:40 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=173075235009056116033241065119172222078102031196077130152150" >Julien.Courtoi--------..</a> write--------font>
>
> << I am proud to announce my new mailing list: <a href="mailto:Apicius@--------" >Apicius@--------</a>
>
> This list is for sharing experiences in Antique Roman cookery.
>
> Relevant sujects are: Discussion on antique roman/celt/greek cooking
> recipes, ingredients finding or growing, antique beverages, historical
> background, special announcements on the suject (invition for an orgy
> ;-> ), etc...
>
> Let Apicius be with you!
>
> subscribing/unsubscribing: <a href="http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Apicius" target="_top" >http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Apicius</a>
>
> Julien>>
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: New Rome |
| From: |
Temale@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:36:00 EST |
|
The reason I mentioned Africa was not like a hostile takeover. I was thinking
of some african country whose people were starving that we could start a
little farming community over there and build it up into a city for ourselves
eventually, in peace with the locals. Anyways, I'm sorry that location was a
bad idea, but I think the idea of creating a city is still good.
|
| Subject: |
Re: Statues at the Macellum |
| From: |
SFP55@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 02:34:38 EST |
|
In a message dated 1/26/99 8:55:49 PM Pacific Standard Time,
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------; writes:
<< I believe the original
of that particular statue is in the Vatican, the original having been found
in
Rome, but hey, I could be way wrong. >>
You are. It is in the English Classical Museum
Vale
|
| Subject: |
New provinces |
| From: |
hadji hadji@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:34:34 +0100 |
|
Salvete Qvirites
I have got an idea to established a new NR provinces in Central and
Eastern Europe. Thatswhy had sent a request to our Consul Cincinnatus.
Here are my both emails and his answer. I will be very grateful to you
if you will express your opinion of the question: Need we any new
provinces here or not ?
Thank you
Your respectfully
Alexander Iul. Caes. Probus Mac.
-----Original Message-----
From: kurcova <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=200075091098193096169218000036129208" >kurcova@--------</a>
To: <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a> <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a>
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 5:17 AM
Subject: A request about new province
>Salve Lucio Equitio Cincinnato,
>
>I am a plebean of (B)ritish Gens Iulia Caesaria, but I live in Pannonia
>Inferior (Slovakia). Is it possible to establish a new roman province
>here?
>I would like to candidate for a pr(a)etor of the both Pannoniae - Inferior
>and Superior (Hungary), as I am the only Nova Roman in the south eastern
>Europe. I hope it will help us to find another people here, which loves
>the idea of Rome.
>
>Bene Vale, Alexander Iul. Caes. Probus Mac.
>
-----Original Message-----
From: hadji <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=180166080058082135090082190036" >hadji@--------</a>
To: <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a> <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a>
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 3:38 AM
Subject: New NR provinces
>Salve consul L. Cincinnatus,
>
>More than a week ago I had sent you a request about reestablishment of
>two NR provinces in Central Europe - Panonnia Inferior (Slovakia) and
>Panonia Superior (Hungary) . What is necessary to done to progress in
>this question. I would like to candidate for a praetor of these two
>provinces as I am the only NR citizen living in this region.
>I hope this could help us to find new members here and to encrease
>influence of NR in the region.
>Later we could consider of reestablishment of provinces Macedonia
>(F.Y.R. Macedonia) and Thrace (Southern Bulgaria)
>
>Bene Vale, Alexander Iul. Caes. Probus Macedonicus
>P.S. I am looking for your answer possitive or negative. Thank you.
Salve Civis AICP Macedonicus
Actually you wrote to me less than a week ago by a few hours.
Do you have the Permission of your Materfamilias to make this
proposal? If you want, send your proposal, endorsed by your
Materfamilias to
my assistant Quaestor M Minucius Audes at: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a>
Please explain how making Pannonia a Provincia would help Nova Roma
meet it's goals as stated in the Literature. Also, how do you plan as a
prospective Praetor to help Nova Roma meet these same goals? Why would
making you Praetor "help us to find new members here and to encrease
influence of NR in the region."? Is there somthing that you can do as
Praetor that you cannot do as a citizen?
Festina Lente
Vale, Consul Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus
Here is my answer to the Consul (I enclosed it to completize our
correspondence with the Consul)
Salve consul Lucius Cincinnatus
I will do as you wrote me.
After I will got a permission of my Materfamilias I will contact your
assistant. I know that this message is not the place to answer to your
questions, but I will try to answer you.But the main question is not who
will be the praetor of these provinces, but will be there a new
provinces?
Why would
> making you Praetor "help us to find new members here and to encrease
> influence of NR in the region."?
1.Because I am the only NR citizen living here, I could comunicate in
English and in the both pannoniae languages - Slovakian and Hungarian, I
have a connection to Internet and am interesting of Roman history - this
is a VERY rare combination for the Eastern Europe.
2. I know the menthality of native people. When they saw that there are
officiall provinces of Panonniae they will understand that Nova Roma is
not only the game of "crazy yankees" but something more - as you declare
in the constitution.
3. With your hard pagan policy Nova Roma couldn't have any success in
the puritan catholic countries as Hungary, Slovakia and Poland. There
must be done a wise compromis. You may understand the specifics and
sensitive of the region - a problem which is not resolved by US
administration, for example.
4. As I am not the ethnic from these both enemy nations, I could be a
more accepted alternative that if the praetor was Slovakian or
Hungarian. Well, I am ethnic Macedonian, which is available for
everybody in the region.
I hope it is enough.
Vale!
Alexander I.C.Probus M.
P.S. Do you think that Pannonians have not right to have own province as
Italians, Scandinavians,Lusitanians etc etc? Do you think peoples here
do not know nothing about Rome and could not be a benefit for NR?
If yes, we have nothing to do in NR.
|
| Subject: |
Re: New provinces |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" amg@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:13:27 -0000 |
|
Salvete omnes!
I'm here to testify the personal qualities of Alexander Probus, as well as
his ability to become a Praetor.
Some time ago I started to speak with Alexander, and he was by then already
gathering information on how to start a new Provincia. Moreover, Alexander
showed already his energy when he proposed to have a Nova Roma european
meeting, which he offered to organize.
Moreover I am forced to sympathize with him about his religious
difficulties, as Lusitania is nowadays very catholic as well, and likewise
needs a special treatment which only a person with deep knowledge of the
cultural context can achieve.
I conclude saying that the Senate of Rome is not likely to regret if It
decides to place bets on Alexander Probus.
Valete!
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
(Aedile Plebis et Propraetor ad Lusitania Provincia)
-----Original Message-----
From: hadji <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=180166080058082135090082190036" >hadji@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 9:38 AM
Subject: [novaroma] New provinces
>From: hadji <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=180166080058082135090082190036" >hadji@--------</a>
>
>Salvete Qvirites
>
>I have got an idea to established a new NR provinces in Central and
>Eastern Europe. Thatswhy had sent a request to our Consul Cincinnatus.
>Here are my both emails and his answer. I will be very grateful to you
>if you will express your opinion of the question: Need we any new
>provinces here or not ?
>
>Thank you
>
>Your respectfully
>
>Alexander Iul. Caes. Probus Mac.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: kurcova <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=200075091098193096169218000036129208" >kurcova@--------</a>
>To: <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a> <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a>
>Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 5:17 AM
>Subject: A request about new province
>
>
>>Salve Lucio Equitio Cincinnato,
>>
>>I am a plebean of (B)ritish Gens Iulia Caesaria, but I live in Pannonia
>>Inferior (Slovakia). Is it possible to establish a new roman province
>>here?
>>I would like to candidate for a pr(a)etor of the both Pannoniae - Inferior
>>and Superior (Hungary), as I am the only Nova Roman in the south eastern
>>Europe. I hope it will help us to find another people here, which loves
>>the idea of Rome.
>>
>>Bene Vale, Alexander Iul. Caes. Probus Mac.
>>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hadji <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=180166080058082135090082190036" >hadji@--------</a>
>To: <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a> <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a>
>Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 3:38 AM
>Subject: New NR provinces
>
>
>>Salve consul L. Cincinnatus,
>>
>>More than a week ago I had sent you a request about reestablishment of
>>two NR provinces in Central Europe - Panonnia Inferior (Slovakia) and
>>Panonia Superior (Hungary) . What is necessary to done to progress in
>>this question. I would like to candidate for a praetor of these two
>>provinces as I am the only NR citizen living in this region.
>>I hope this could help us to find new members here and to encrease
>>influence of NR in the region.
>>Later we could consider of reestablishment of provinces Macedonia
>>(F.Y.R. Macedonia) and Thrace (Southern Bulgaria)
>>
>>Bene Vale, Alexander Iul. Caes. Probus Macedonicus
>>P.S. I am looking for your answer possitive or negative. Thank you.
>
>Salve Civis AICP Macedonicus
>
> Actually you wrote to me less than a week ago by a few hours.
> Do you have the Permission of your Materfamilias to make this
>proposal? If you want, send your proposal, endorsed by your
>Materfamilias to
>my assistant Quaestor M Minucius Audes at: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a>
> Please explain how making Pannonia a Provincia would help Nova Roma
>meet it's goals as stated in the Literature. Also, how do you plan as a
>prospective Praetor to help Nova Roma meet these same goals? Why would
>making you Praetor "help us to find new members here and to encrease
>influence of NR in the region."? Is there somthing that you can do as
>Praetor that you cannot do as a citizen?
>
>Festina Lente
>Vale, Consul Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus
>
>Here is my answer to the Consul (I enclosed it to completize our
>correspondence with the Consul)
>
>Salve consul Lucius Cincinnatus
>
>I will do as you wrote me.
>After I will got a permission of my Materfamilias I will contact your
>assistant. I know that this message is not the place to answer to your
>questions, but I will try to answer you.But the main question is not who
>will be the praetor of these provinces, but will be there a new
>provinces?
>
>Why would
>> making you Praetor "help us to find new members here and to encrease
>> influence of NR in the region."?
>1.Because I am the only NR citizen living here, I could comunicate in
>English and in the both pannoniae languages - Slovakian and Hungarian, I
>have a connection to Internet and am interesting of Roman history - this
>is a VERY rare combination for the Eastern Europe.
>2. I know the menthality of native people. When they saw that there are
>officiall provinces of Panonniae they will understand that Nova Roma is
>not only the game of "crazy yankees" but something more - as you declare
>in the constitution.
>3. With your hard pagan policy Nova Roma couldn't have any success in
>the puritan catholic countries as Hungary, Slovakia and Poland. There
>must be done a wise compromis. You may understand the specifics and
>sensitive of the region - a problem which is not resolved by US
>administration, for example.
>4. As I am not the ethnic from these both enemy nations, I could be a
>more accepted alternative that if the praetor was Slovakian or
>Hungarian. Well, I am ethnic Macedonian, which is available for
>everybody in the region.
>I hope it is enough.
>
>Vale!
>
>Alexander I.C.Probus M.
>
>P.S. Do you think that Pannonians have not right to have own province as
>Italians, Scandinavians,Lusitanians etc etc? Do you think peoples here
>do not know nothing about Rome and could not be a benefit for NR?
>If yes, we have nothing to do in NR.
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription
>to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at <a href="http://www.onelist.com" target="_top" >http://www.onelist.com</a> and
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| Subject: |
Re: New Rome |
| From: |
"RMerullo" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:43:19 -0500 |
|
Salvete Gaie Druse et alii
I think that you're right. It's fun to daydream about a physical center for
Nova Roma, but, before we bother having discussions about such musings,
let's see what we can do in the way of face-to-face meetings, gatherings,
rituals et cetera.
I was excited about the prospect of meeting some cives at the Concordia
ritual, which, for very sensible reasons, never came to pass. Someday I
hope to get another chance, and most likely I'll try to organize some kind
of get-together eventually.
The physical center stage that you describe is, in my opinion, way way off,
certainly not in our lifetime. Hell, last market day chat was attended by a
half dozen or so cives in the taverna for 15 minutes or so, so it's not as
though we are a nation teeming with citizens eager to build a real community
today or tomorrow.
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=114056113185089095081021203102129208071" >dean6886@--------</a> (Dean Troy)
I would like to add a few words to the concept of Nova Roma owning
physical property. First off I think of Nova Roma as actually more of a
group conciousness which can manifest and grow with people of similar
interests, ideals, etc. We will manifest ourselves as various groups of
reenactors, religious communities, study groups within the various
sodales which will undoubtedly form more and more over time, and
including anyone else who has a stake in Nova Roma.
---truth deleted for bandwidth preservation----
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| Subject: |
Re: New provinces |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:20:57 -0800 |
|
I also, second Alexander Probus in his proposal, I am very glad he has
volunteered his services in this area. I have spoken to him on a few occasions
in the Tavnera, and he is very inteligent and personable. My question to our
honored Consul, is if any of our other Praetors or Propraetors had to come up
with a business plan to be accepted to their position? Cause thats what it
sounds like to me in your request to Alexander Probus. And since our other
Consul Pallidus asked me at one time to become a Praetor of California, I just
wanted to know if that is a requirement now, since that it a possibility for me
in the future. I really cannot add more than the glowing recommendation of
Antonius Gryllus Graecus. And I hope that that Senate works with Alexander
Probus in accomplish this new and very intersting task for the betterment of
Nova Roma.
Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Praetor Urbanis
hadji wrote:
> From: hadji <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=180166080058082135090082190036" >hadji@--------</a>
>
> Salvete Qvirites
>
> I have got an idea to established a new NR provinces in Central and
> Eastern Europe. Thatswhy had sent a request to our Consul Cincinnatus.
> Here are my both emails and his answer. I will be very grateful to you
> if you will express your opinion of the question: Need we any new
> provinces here or not ?
>
> Thank you
>
> Your respectfully
>
> Alexander Iul. Caes. Probus Mac.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kurcova <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=200075091098193096169218000036129208" >kurcova@--------</a>
> To: <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a> <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a>
> Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 5:17 AM
> Subject: A request about new province
>
> >Salve Lucio Equitio Cincinnato,
> >
> >I am a plebean of (B)ritish Gens Iulia Caesaria, but I live in Pannonia
> >Inferior (Slovakia). Is it possible to establish a new roman province
> >here?
> >I would like to candidate for a pr(a)etor of the both Pannoniae - Inferior
> >and Superior (Hungary), as I am the only Nova Roman in the south eastern
> >Europe. I hope it will help us to find another people here, which loves
> >the idea of Rome.
> >
> >Bene Vale, Alexander Iul. Caes. Probus Mac.
> >
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hadji <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=180166080058082135090082190036" >hadji@--------</a>
> To: <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a> <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a>
> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 3:38 AM
> Subject: New NR provinces
>
> >Salve consul L. Cincinnatus,
> >
> >More than a week ago I had sent you a request about reestablishment of
> >two NR provinces in Central Europe - Panonnia Inferior (Slovakia) and
> >Panonia Superior (Hungary) . What is necessary to done to progress in
> >this question. I would like to candidate for a praetor of these two
> >provinces as I am the only NR citizen living in this region.
> >I hope this could help us to find new members here and to encrease
> >influence of NR in the region.
> >Later we could consider of reestablishment of provinces Macedonia
> >(F.Y.R. Macedonia) and Thrace (Southern Bulgaria)
> >
> >Bene Vale, Alexander Iul. Caes. Probus Macedonicus
> >P.S. I am looking for your answer possitive or negative. Thank you.
>
> Salve Civis AICP Macedonicus
>
> Actually you wrote to me less than a week ago by a few hours.
> Do you have the Permission of your Materfamilias to make this
> proposal? If you want, send your proposal, endorsed by your
> Materfamilias to
> my assistant Quaestor M Minucius Audes at: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a>
> Please explain how making Pannonia a Provincia would help Nova Roma
> meet it's goals as stated in the Literature. Also, how do you plan as a
> prospective Praetor to help Nova Roma meet these same goals? Why would
> making you Praetor "help us to find new members here and to encrease
> influence of NR in the region."? Is there somthing that you can do as
> Praetor that you cannot do as a citizen?
>
> Festina Lente
> Vale, Consul Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus
>
> Here is my answer to the Consul (I enclosed it to completize our
> correspondence with the Consul)
>
> Salve consul Lucius Cincinnatus
>
> I will do as you wrote me.
> After I will got a permission of my Materfamilias I will contact your
> assistant. I know that this message is not the place to answer to your
> questions, but I will try to answer you.But the main question is not who
> will be the praetor of these provinces, but will be there a new
> provinces?
>
> Why would
> > making you Praetor "help us to find new members here and to encrease
> > influence of NR in the region."?
> 1.Because I am the only NR citizen living here, I could comunicate in
> English and in the both pannoniae languages - Slovakian and Hungarian, I
> have a connection to Internet and am interesting of Roman history - this
> is a VERY rare combination for the Eastern Europe.
> 2. I know the menthality of native people. When they saw that there are
> officiall provinces of Panonniae they will understand that Nova Roma is
> not only the game of "crazy yankees" but something more - as you declare
> in the constitution.
> 3. With your hard pagan policy Nova Roma couldn't have any success in
> the puritan catholic countries as Hungary, Slovakia and Poland. There
> must be done a wise compromis. You may understand the specifics and
> sensitive of the region - a problem which is not resolved by US
> administration, for example.
> 4. As I am not the ethnic from these both enemy nations, I could be a
> more accepted alternative that if the praetor was Slovakian or
> Hungarian. Well, I am ethnic Macedonian, which is available for
> everybody in the region.
> I hope it is enough.
>
> Vale!
>
> Alexander I.C.Probus M.
>
> P.S. Do you think that Pannonians have not right to have own province as
> Italians, Scandinavians,Lusitanians etc etc? Do you think peoples here
> do not know nothing about Rome and could not be a benefit for NR?
> If yes, we have nothing to do in NR.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription
> to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at <a href="http://www.onelist.com" target="_top" >http://www.onelist.com</a> and
> select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left.
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| Subject: |
Pro novis provinciis et AICProbo Macedonico was Re: New provinces |
| From: |
"RMerullo" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:19:55 -0500 |
|
Salvete Alexander Iuli Caesar et Luci Equiti et alii
First of all I would like to say that I believe that Alexander I C Probus
Macedonicus would make an excellent Praetor: his posts to the message board
and private correspondence show him to be knowledgeable about Roman history;
he has already reported to us that he has promoted Nova Roma among his own
friends, including one in what would have been Thracia if I'm not mistaken.
One of our current consuls stated during the election that there were two
chief aims of his upcoming consulship: expansion of the number of citizens,
and expansion of the treasury. Macedonicus' proposal to make Nova Roma
appealing to potential cives in these East European lands clearly would
serve to further both of those aims, particularly if one agrees that the
treasury depends on the cives, and the more cives, the greater the treasury.
Our population is growing already by means largely of hits on the website.
Did not one of our current consuls in the past express some doubt about the
loyalty and enthusiasm of cives recruited in this impersonal fashion? Maybe
it was someone else, but it was, I think, a not invalid point. Macedonicus'
proposal offers one way, in one part of the orbis terrarum, to expand our
population through a channel thus far lacking there: by the personal
efforts and contacts of a Roman.
Of course, Macedonicus could make some efforts, as he already has done, to
recruit as a civis, but why do we have praetores in other provinciae? I
really do think that establishing one, or perhaps two provinciae as
Macedonicus suggests, and making him Praetor, would lend some additional
legitimacy to his recruitment efforts, and is entirely right to do.
Please, Conscript Fathers of the Senate, accept and approve this proposal.
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
>From: hadji <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=180166080058082135090082190036" >hadji@--------</a>
>
>Salvete Qvirites
>
>I have got an idea to established a new NR provinces in Central and
>Eastern Europe. Thatswhy had sent a request to our Consul Cincinnatus.
>Here are my both emails and his answer. I will be very grateful to you
>if you will express your opinion of the question: Need we any new
>provinces here or not ?
>
>Thank you
>
>Your respectfully
>
>Alexander Iul. Caes. Probus Mac.
>
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| Subject: |
Re: New provinces |
| From: |
SFP55@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:30:58 EST |
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n a me--------e dated 1/27/99 1:38:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=180166080058082135090082190036" >hadji@--------</a>
writes:
<< I would like to candidate for a pr(a)etor of the both Pannoniae - Inferior
>and Superior (Hungary), as I am the only Nova Roman in the south eastern
>Europe. I hope it will help us to find another people here, which loves
>the idea of Rome. >>
To the August Paters, The Senate, From Q Fabius Maximus
Salvete!!
Since Pannonia was one of Rome's best provinces for providing auxilaries, I
can see some historical signifiquence to the proposal. However what's the
minium Roman citizens that are needed to make an area a province? There
should be some number stated. Second, we cannot consider Pannonia to be
"friendly" to us, since of the ethnic make-up changes since the 9th century.
(Damn History!!)
Because of this, I'd suggest that Probius be given the status of "Ambassador"
from Nova Roma, and he be allowed to recruit members, to form a neclus for NR
in his assigned province. Once he accomplishes this, raise him to Governor.
Valete!
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| Subject: |
Re: New provinces |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" amg@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:57:47 -0000 |
|
>Because of this, I'd suggest that Probius be given the status of
"Ambassador"
>from Nova Roma, and he be allowed to recruit members, to form a neclus for
NR
>in his assigned province. Once he accomplishes this, raise him to
Governor.
Good idea! What about 'Procurator Senati Romani'? =)
Vale!
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
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From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------; <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------;
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 5:34 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: New provinces
>From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------;
>
>n a message dated 1/27/99 1:38:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
<a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=180166080058082135090082190036" >hadji@--------</a>
>writes:
>
><< I would like to candidate for a pr(a)etor of the both Pannoniae -
Inferior
> >and Superior (Hungary), as I am the only Nova Roman in the south eastern
> >Europe. I hope it will help us to find another people here, which loves
> >the idea of Rome. >>
>To the August Paters, The Senate, From Q Fabius Maximus
>Salvete!!
>Since Pannonia was one of Rome's best provinces for providing auxilaries, I
>can see some historical signifiquence to the proposal. However what's the
>minium Roman citizens that are needed to make an area a province? There
>should be some number stated. Second, we cannot consider Pannonia to be
>"friendly" to us, since of the ethnic make-up changes since the 9th
century.
>(Damn History!!)
>
>Because of this, I'd suggest that Probius be given the status of
"Ambassador"
>from Nova Roma, and he be allowed to recruit members, to form a neclus for
NR
>in his assigned province. Once he accomplishes this, raise him to
Governor.
>
>Valete!
>
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| Subject: |
Re: New provinces |
| From: |
LSergAust@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:10:05 EST |
|
>From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------;
>
>n a message dated 1/27/99 1:38:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
><a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=180166080058082135090082190036" >hadji@--------</a>
>writes:
>
><< I would like to candidate for a pr(a)etor of the both Pannoniae - Inferior
> >and Superior (Hungary), as I am the only Nova Roman in the south eastern
> >Europe. I hope it will help us to find another people here, which loves
> >the idea of Rome. >>
>To the August Paters, The Senate, From Q Fabius Maximus
>Salvete!!
>Since Pannonia was one of Rome's best provinces for providing auxilaries, I
>can see some historical signifiquence to the proposal. However what's the
>minium Roman citizens that are needed to make an area a province? There
>should be some number stated. Second, we cannot consider Pannonia to be
>"friendly" to us, since of the ethnic make-up changes since the 9th century.
>(Damn History!!)
>
>Because of this, I'd suggest that Probius be given the status of "Ambassador"
>from Nova Roma, and he be allowed to recruit members, to form a neclus for NR
>in his assigned province. Once he accomplishes this, raise him to
>Governor.
>
>Valete!
Wasn't it customary to give such ambassadors at least a couple of legions
with which to persuade foreigners of the value of becoming a province of
Rome? Is it really fair to expect Probius to conquer... er, persuade some
people to join on his own, without at least a cohort or two?
;-)
L. Sergius Aust.
cum ballistae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti ballistas habebunt.
(When ballistas are outlawed, only outlaws will have ballistas.)
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| Subject: |
Re: New provinces |
| From: |
legion6@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:26:14 -0600 (CST) |
|
Salvete omnes...
I don't see what the problem is. In the past, haven't we declared a
place a Province as soon as we had any Citizens in it? --And then made
the first enthusiastic person in that Province the Praetor? No waiting
period, no 'ambassadorship', just 'Come to my arms, Italia!
--Lusitania! --Brasilia! --Thule!' What is a Praetor, after all, but
the local point-of-contact for Nova Roman recruiting and activities in
his area? Probus wants to go recruiting in Pannonia. I say we give
him the authority to back up his enthusiasm.
Yours under the Eagles,
---
__________ _<~) __________
<-\\\\@@@@@) /##\ (@@@@@////-> Märia Villarroel <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a>
<-\\\@@@@(#####@@@@///-> Historical Re-Creationist
<-\\\*##*///-> and Citizen of Rome
o---<<<<||SPQR||>>>>---o Latin lessons, History lectures
///\\\ Role-playing Games, too!
aka Lucius Marius Fimbria on the weekends
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| Subject: |
Re: New provinces |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" amg@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:42:21 -0000 |
|
Salvete!
Yes, you're right. Praetors were very easily elected until now.
Vale!
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
-----Original Message-----
From: <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a> <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 7:26 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: New provinces
From: <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a>
Salvete omnes...
I don't see what the problem is. In the past, haven't we declared a
place a Province as soon as we had any Citizens in it? --And then made
the first enthusiastic person in that Province the Praetor? No waiting
period, no 'ambassadorship', just 'Come to my arms, Italia!
--Lusitania! --Brasilia! --Thule!' What is a Praetor, after all, but
the local point-of-contact for Nova Roman recruiting and activities in
his area? Probus wants to go recruiting in Pannonia. I say we give
him the authority to back up his enthusiasm.
Yours under the Eagles,
---
__________ _<~) __________
<-\\\\@@@@@) /##\ (@@@@@////-> Mdria Villarroel <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a>
<-\\\@@@@(#####@@@@///-> Historical Re-Creationist
<-\\\*##*///-> and Citizen of Rome
o---<<<<||SPQR||>>>>---o Latin lessons, History lectures
///\\\ Role-playing Games, too!
aka Lucius Marius Fimbria on the weekends
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| Subject: |
Update on your consuls |
| From: |
"D. Iunius Palladius" amcgrath@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:06:48 -0500 (EST) |
|
Salvete! I realize that I have been pretty silent since the beginning of
the year and figured it was time to keep Nova Roma up to date on what the
consuls are doing. There are several projects that are in the works at
the moment:
1. The Comitiae -- The censors, consuls and A. Tullius Callidus, Tribune
Plebis, are working to get the comitiae up and running. The first to be
set up will probably be the Comitia Populi and the Comitia Plebis.
2. Appointing governors for Provinces - Ongoing for the Consuls and Senate
are filling the empty governors' posts in provinces that as yet have none.
Most recently we voted to appoint Gaius Drusus Domitianus as Governor of
the Great Lakes Province.
We are continuing our search for Governors of various provinciae. The
debate over Alexander Probus shows what I think is a problem in provincial
governorships. It is the term Praetor or Propraetor. A praetor is an
elected official, second only to the consuls. A propraetor--which is what
our governors are--has the imperium of a praetor without actually holding
the office. Potentially, with all the countries worldwide, there could be
hundreds of praetors. I think that perhaps the best solution would be to
change the term from propraetor to [I am open to suggestions here]. I have
thought of using the term legatus or gubernator. If a former praetor
became a governor, he would correctly take the title of propraetor and a
former consul would be a proconsul. Either of these two would perhaps
oversee several provinces including their own, with the legati or
gubernatores reporting to them.
I think a change in semantics might allay the concern of some people that
we have too many praetors. We do need contact people on the local and
national level, however, to promote Nova Roma, no matter what they are
called.
3. Nova Roma Publications - This is a project that I brought up in the
campaign that I want to implement soon. Rather than have individuals sell
individual publications on their own sites through links in the Macellum,
I am thinking of a central page for all publications sold through Nova
Roma. This way, individuals who may have only one publication available
would not have to maintain an entire site for it. Also, since they would
be Nova Roma Publications, under the auspices of our nation, it would be
only fitting that they be sold by Nova Roma Herself, if this is practical.
I am working on a booklet of my own to publish through Nova Roma Pub, thus
paving the way for what I hope will be a variety of literature sold by us.
Not only will publications allow us to promote and share ideas in hard
copy but also will bring money into the treasury.
4. Establishing a fund for a physical site - As I promised during the
campaign, I would like to, as soon as possible, establish a fund that
will eventually be used to buy a physical center for Nova Roma. While this
may appear to be jumping the gun, I think it important that we look to
the future now by setting aside a portion of all incoming money for this
goal. The fund itself I hope will increase voluntary contributions to Nova
Roma and encourage people to buy from the Macellum.
The debate over the last few days reminds me of the need for us to keep in
mind that one of our stated goals is to have a physical capitol
someday. I hope it will be in my lifetime. The place to start is with
money, however small a fund. I am working out the details with my
quaestor Patricia Cassia and will let you know when this fund will be
ready to be established. It will be one first small step towards that
eventual goal.
5. Increasing the treasury - We are always seeking ways to increase the
treasury.
When you can, give money to Nova Roma. Contributions are still
not tax deductible, but we hope to have this done before the end of
February. Still, any contributions to the treasury will soon be put to
good use. Our next big financial cost will be the coinage project that
Marcus Cassius is working on. All it is waiting on, from what I
understand, is the money.
Buying from the Macellum:
Remember, Pythia has her jewelry business through the Macellum. A portion
of all her sales go to the treasury.
As pointed out by Marcus Cassius, we have an arrangement with JBL Statues
that gives Nova Romans a discount and sends a portion of the money to Nova
Roma.
The service we provide through Amazon.com also sends some money to the
Nova Roma treasury.
Adding businesses to the Macellum:
A citizen soon hopes to open a book search service through the Macellum,
which will specialize in out of print or hard to find books on Classical
subjects.
Another statuary company perhaps? Many people have suggested adding
another statuary company to the Macellum, perhaps one that is more upscale
both in quality and cost compared to JBL. Design Toscano or Great
Alexander have been suggestions. Can we support having links to 2
companies? Certainly there would be more variety to choose from.
Well Cives, these are some of things that we have been working on. If you
have any questions or comments I will be glad to address them.
In service to Rome,
Decius Iunius Palladius, Consul
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Non scholae sed vitae discimus.
Seneca
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"Such things have often happened and still happen,
and how can these be signs of the end of the world?"
Julian, Emperor of Rome 361-363 A.D.
Extant 331-363 A.D.
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| Subject: |
Re: Update on your consuls |
| From: |
dean6886@--------) |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:50:18 -0600 (CST) |
|
I have a suggestion on raising a little money. Why can't we have some
area set aside on our websight for a sponsor. I mentioned One-Click in
the past and they have a huge variety of companies to choose from. In
this context it doesn't seem to me that it would have to be associated
necessarily with ancient Rome or Roman customs or goods. I see nothing
wrong with adding maybe a food distributor on the websight that will pay
a cent or five a click and help out with even a few dollars worth of
expenses. I mentioned the possibility once and the reaction seemed kind
of negative I thought. I wasn't talking about saturating the websight
full of advertisements but just setting aside a place here and there
that could be of some benefit- it doesn't even have to be the One click
service if anyone has a better idea.
I'm also happy to see our consul talking about raising funds and
asking for money. I think plenty of us can relate with people giving a
donation each week at a Christian service to help pay expenses and
expand or a membership fee for any organization. What I do hope is that
if we do start raising any kinds of funds however small ( a few hundred
dollars here or there) that we have a public quarterly report that
everyone can see and comment on. We could possibly put some funds away
into low interest but safe bonds and some toward reinvesting in Nova
Roma products such as publications- possibilities are endless. With that
I guess I should start thinking about getting the checkbook out.
First though- to date what do we have in treasury??? Givin that,
what is our very first and foremost priority in spending?
I do have one more thought for now. How about we start a fund to
put a fancy ad or two in a couple of the larger city newspapers.
Something a little better than our rather vague flyers. If we want to
get peoples interest this is the way for the public to know we exist and
to begin with any semblance of a physical community. Good idea or not?
It wouldn't have to be fancy pictures or anything. Just a good old
fashioned ad with some bold print good enough for people to check out
the websight and their local contact person for more information. One
strategically placed ad in the New York times or Chicago Tribune could
ad to our membership very quickly or at the very least bring us a little
publicity to the general public. Ok- this might be a little costly- even
a smaller community newspaper can be a good place to start. In short,
the more citizens we have the more resources we have. The more resources
we have the more Nova Roma will have to offer its citizens ( events,
gatherings, groups, rituals, publications, etc.etc.etc- forming this
international subculture community nation the way we want it to take
shape. Ok these are my official recommendations to the Senate coming
from the lowly Praetor of the Great Lakes Province that could help
improve Nova Roma on every level- including every Province.
Feedback from anyone?????????????
Gaius Drusus Domitianus
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| Subject: |
Re: Update on your consuls |
| From: |
"Lucius" vergil@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:50:00 -0500 |
|
Salvete Omnes
I have a suggestion on raising a little money. Why can't we have some
area set aside on our websight for a sponsor. it doesn't even have to be
the One click service if anyone has a better idea.
I'm also happy to see our consul talking about raising funds and
asking for money. <SNIP> With that I guess I should start thinking about
getting the checkbook out.
Send contributions to: Nova Roma, Post Office Box 1897, Wells, Maine 04090
This is how we have raised....
First though- to date what do we have in treasury??? Givin that,
what is our very first and foremost priority in spending?
We have $387.11, as of Jan.15, 1999 .....So far!
No spending yet, but there is the website that must be kept up and the Eagle
too, $5 barely covers the Postage.
I do have one more thought for now. How about we start a fund to
put a fancy ad or two in a couple of the larger city newspapers.
<SNIP> Ok these are my official recommendations to the Senate coming
from the lowly Praetor of the Great Lakes Province that could help
improve Nova Roma on every level- including every Province.
Feedback from anyone?????????????
Gaius Drusus Domitianus
This is a great idea, but it is going to take some commitment from
many more of our citizens.
Vale, Consul Lucius Equitius
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| Subject: |
Re: Update on your consuls |
| From: |
dean6886@--------) |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:15:43 -0600 (CST) |
|
Yes it would require a commitment from many of our citizens. After
an ad is put up and any kind of response- what then? Well our sodales
organizers for one might just have an interest in forming a local group-
brewing and vinting or our military sodales having a local getogether
somewhere with interested parties, etc. Perhaps just a study group with
an occassional trip to a city museum or a onetime small getogether event
and then back to the websight chatroom for a time and networking a
little more there. A small religious studies group perhaps studying the
classics somewhere. All of this is in our realm of possibilities which
could be happening very soon or perhaps not too far down the road.
I for one don't claim to be a specialist/expert in any particular
aspect of Roman Studies but would be willing to help get together with
like-minded people for an outing or to start a study group. I'm sure we
have others who would be interested in this too if it were readily
available to them and didn't put anyone too far out financially. I think
it would be important to find out just who in our Nova Roma world would
be interested in volunteering their time within their realm of interest
to hold an occassional small meeting or host a daytrip. Given even one
person in a particular area it then becomes logical as to where to
advertise - which newspaper.
Granted that not everyone wants to join a group or go to a meeting
and that's just fine. We always have the Nova Roma websight, chatroom ,
the Eagle, and this list in which to participate.
Then a good question would be as to what should the short body of
such an ad contain? We absolutely don't want to look even remotely like
a cult, or a bunch of crackpots wanting to succeed from the union so to
speak in any advertisement. It has to be short to keep expenses down and
yet sufficiently enticing to attract people to investigate Nova Roma
further. Any suggestions at all?
Gaius Drusus Domitianus
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| Subject: |
Advertising for Nova Roma |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:38:51 -0500 (EST) |
|
I have been giving your comments some serious thought in regards to
contacting people and I agree completely that we must NOT come off
looking radical in any way. My thought is that the one real handle that
we have is the appeal to experience Ancient Rome.
That should be central to the theme in my estimation. Anything in the
way of icons or words relating to ancient rome such as:
SPQR;
Marching Legions;
bronze and marble statues;
temples / temple riuns;
aqueducts;
coins;
etc.
The involvement with just a very small activity should be immediately
followed up with a local newspaper, since they are generally most
interested in local people and events. Getting someone to sponsor a
presentation could statrt the ball rolling. The coming re-enactment
season, should give NR some exposure as we travel to be a part of these
coming events and bring the information back to our home newspapers.
However, you are very right in that whatever we do, must be done well
and in the light of history and research. those elements are not only
interesting and entertaining but provide the dignity and the
forthrightness, that we will need to recruit from the mainstream.
Marcus Minucius Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: Advertising for Nova Roma |
| From: |
Razenna razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:12:00 -0800 |
|
Salve, Audens.
I have tried to send you posts several times in the last few days and they have
all bounced. The address I am using matches the one on your messages. Can you
help me?
C. Aelius Ericius
Propraetor ad Californiam Provinciam
James Mathews wrote:
> From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/font>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: Update on your consuls |
| From: |
"Gaius Marius Merullus" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:23:01 -0500 |
|
Salvete Deci Iuni et alii
Thank you for this update.
:From: "D. Iunius Palladius" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232219108127031050199203252129208071" >amcgrath@--------</a>
:
:
:
:1. The Comitiae -- The censors, consuls and A. Tullius Callidus, Tribune
:Plebis, are working to get the comitiae up and running. The first to be
:set up will probably be the Comitia Populi and the Comitia Plebis.
This is good.
:
:2. Appointing governors for Provinces - Ongoing for the Consuls and Senate
:We are continuing our search for Governors of various provinciae. The
:debate over Alexander Probus shows what I think is a problem in provincial
:governorships. It is the term Praetor or Propraetor. A praetor is an
:elected official, second only to the consuls. A propraetor--which is what
:our governors are--has the imperium of a praetor without actually holding
This is perhaps a bit confusing, especially at first, but, I dont think that
it is a major problem. It is, after all, a title; we could easily adopt a
new title, such as one of those which you suggest; whatever the title, I
really hope that you accept Macedonicus' proposal and make him a praetor or
x, where x is Nova Roman responsible for provincia y.
:the office. Potentially, with all the countries worldwide, there could be
:hundreds of praetors. I think that perhaps the best solution would be to
:change the term from propraetor to [I am open to suggestions here]. I have
:thought of using the term legatus or gubernator. If a former praetor
:became a governor, he would correctly take the title of propraetor and a
:former consul would be a proconsul. Either of these two would perhaps
:oversee several provinces including their own, with the legati or
:gubernatores reporting to them
This all seems reasonable to me.
:
:I think a change in semantics might allay the concern of some people that
:we have too many praetors. We do need contact people on the local and
:national level, however, to promote Nova Roma, no matter what they are
:called.
I would certainly think so.
:
:3. Nova Roma Publications - This is a project that I brought up in the
:campaign that I want to implement soon. Rather than have individuals sell
:individual publications on their own sites through links in the Macellum,
:I am thinking of a central page for all publications sold through Nova
:Roma. This way, individuals who may have only one publication available
:would not have to maintain an entire site for it. Also, since they would
:be Nova Roma Publications, under the auspices of our nation, it would be
:only fitting that they be sold by Nova Roma Herself, if this is practical.
:I am working on a booklet of my own to publish through Nova Roma Pub, thus
:paving the way for what I hope will be a variety of literature sold by us.
:Not only will publications allow us to promote and share ideas in hard
:copy but also will bring money into the treasury.
It's a good idea.
:
:4. Establishing a fund for a physical site - As I promised during the
:campaign, I would like to, as soon as possible, establish a fund that
:will eventually be used to buy a physical center for Nova Roma. While this
:may appear to be jumping the gun, I think it important that we look to
:the future now by setting aside a portion of all incoming money for this
:goal. The fund itself I hope will increase voluntary contributions to Nova
:Roma and encourage people to buy from the Macellum.
I dont want to be a party pooper, but I really agree with the view earlier
expressed by Domitianus, that Nova Roma can only grow in stages. Why should
we start putting resources aside for a homeland, when we are not even
meeting each other yet? Sure, it gives us something about which to dream,
but we can dream of a homeland without setting aside any funds for now as
well. And we really should do something less ambitious, and more immediate,
than build a homeland. Otherwise we are not going to move forward toward
that point, at which we really would want, or need, a homeland. Even a
legionary training camp, as big and expensive as it would probably be, would
be much more doable in our lifetimes than building a homeland. Let's not
start putting our resources into something so far away.
:
:The debate over the last few days reminds me of the need for us to keep in
:mind that one of our stated goals is to have a physical capitol
:someday. I hope it will be in my lifetime. The place to start is with
:money, however small a fund. I am working out the details with my
:quaestor Patricia Cassia and will let you know when this fund will be
:ready to be established. It will be one first small step towards that
:eventual goal.
Well, I agree with Ericius that the debate probably started in jest. Its
author didn't sign the message with a Roman name, so I assume that he/she is
not a NR civis. The only thing about the debate that struck me as realistic
was Sulla's reply to the effect that it would be a massive, expensive
undertaking.
You know, the stamp and coin proposals sound good to me, and they seem very
much worth doing. I hate to see money that I send to Nova Roma, and
contribute via the Macellum, invested in a city-building fund rather than go
to support feasible projects like those.
:
:
:Well Cives, these are some of things that we have been working on. If you
:have any questions or comments I will be glad to address them.
Thank you again for filling us in on your plans.
:
:In service to Rome,
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:Decius Iunius Palladius, Consul
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Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus:
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| Subject: |
Re: Advertising for Nova Roma |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:38:06 -0500 (EST) |
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Your post of the 27 arrived just fine. There are only 58 messages in
the mesage bank so they should not have been returned for that reason.
I have been receiving messages steadily for the last several days from a
variety of sources, so I cannot say the problem. I am, of course, very
sorry about the inconvienience, but I cannot speak to the problem.
Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: Advertising for Nova Roma |
| From: |
Razenna razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:11:14 -0800 |
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Very interesting. I just sent you a test msg to your address.
I beieve the post of the 27 came back to me as a bounce---yet you got it. How
strange. Did you get my post this night about Celebrate History?
Ericius
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| Subject: |
Re: Sodalitas Militiarum |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:51:35 -0600 |
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Salvete Omnes!
Salus et Fortuna Quaestor M. M. Audens!
May All Holy Ones prosper you and the Sodalitas Militarium!
I urge anyone with an interest in all Roman Military, Cartographic and
Engineering achievements contact my inestimable friend and fellow veteran He is
in my opinion a true Amateur and Gentleman. He is also, a Roman of 'first
water' quality.
In petitio pro sodalis - Venator
Lucius wrote:
> From: "Lucius" <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a>
>
> Salvete Quirites!
>
> I am pleased to announce that the Senate has voted, by
> majority vote, to approve the founding of a Sodalitas Militiarum
> (Fellowship of Military things). Anyone interested in joining should contact
> Quaestor Marcus Minucius Audens
> at: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a>
> May the Gods bless all his undertakings.
>
> On behalf of the Senate of Nova Roma,
> Consul Cincinnatus
>
> Valete
>
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| Subject: |
Re: Oath of Office |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:54:22 -0600 |
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Salve Primus Fabius Cuncator!
May All the Holy Ones send Thee Blessings in this endeavor as Praetor of the
Homeland of my maternal Ancestors!
Vivat! Vivat! Vivat!
Ave - Venator
Fabio Incutti wrote:
> Fro--------Fabio Incutti" <a href="/post/novaro--------rotectID=210071219182175134036218072036129208" >incutti@--------</a>
>
> I, Primus Fabius Cunctator do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of
> Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the
> Senate of Nova Roma.
>
> As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Primus Fabius Cunctator swear to do honor
> to the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the
> Roman Virtues in my public and private life.
>
> I, Primus Fabius Cunctator further swear to fulfill the obligations and
> responsibilities of the office of Praetor of Italiae Provincia to the best
> of my abilities.
>
> On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
> Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
> position of Praetor of Italiae Provincia and all the rights, privileges,
> obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
>
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| Subject: |
[Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown] |
| From: |
Razenna razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:28:00 -0800 |
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Salve, Audens.
This is what came back.
A definite crimp in my style.
Vale.
Ericius
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| Subject: |
In Re Nova Roma et Nova Provincae |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:21:41 -0600 |
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Salus et Fortuna Omnes, Salvete!
As a talking point, I think that Temale's idea of a New City on the
African continent has some merit. Though it would have a bit more
credulity if said screen name would provide some identifying signature
on his/her posts.
I understand the point of founding a colony, as lawful immigrants. But
the sticking point comes when we would want to fullfill the mandate of
our founding documents and declare that said colony is sovereign
territory. Also, I don't see the socio-political situation in Africa
being such that a colony of predominantly white, European people is
accepted as anything other than "Nova Rhodesia" within our lifetimes,
or that of the next several generations.
The aim of a physical New City should be a long-term goal of Nova Rome.
A shorter term goal might be the establishment of a smaller research -
living history center; a colonial Williamsburg Roma Antiqua style?
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Provincae Pannonia, Inferior et Superior: It seems that A.I.C. Probus
Mac. is offering no less than other first citizens of other Provincae
have done, to act as the face and spokesman of Nova Rome in a new
territory. If we do want to become a worldwide re-awakening, we will
need persons of good will who are not only language conversant, but
culturally fluent.
mea sententia
Valete - Venator
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| Subject: |
Re: Oath of Office |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:55:31 -0500 (EST) |
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Salve Primus Fabious Cuncator;
My most Sincere compliments for your appointment as Praetor. I am sure
that you will do well in the position, and if I may be of assistance to
you in any way honored sir, you have but to ask.
Most Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Quaestor
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Consul Equitus |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:02:13 -0800 |
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Salvete Omnes,
It seems that the Nova Roma main site listed Equitius e-mail address
incorrect. If you sent e-mail to him awaiting a response, please resend
it cause he never got it. He would like to handle and respond to all
responses. They mails that were sent were not recieved by him, and were
not bounced back to the Senders. So, please resend them to him. And he
will give his attention to each inquiry.
Lucius Cornelius Sulla,
Praetor Urbanis
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