Subject:	Celebrate History Event. NR helpers needed.
From:
Date:	Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:37:25 EST

Salvete ohmes!
On April 9-11, The Celebrate History Convention will take place in San
Francisco CA.
I am putting on a recreation in miniature figures (25mm) of the Battle of 1st
Cremona to publicize the existence of Nova Roma, our micro nation. I am also
attempting to organize a contubernium of Roman Legionaries, composed of
reenactors. They will have to be available to answer visitors' questions
about the Imperial Roman Army in the display area and demonstrate Roman drill
to the interested school kids.
We also need knowledgeable person from NR to be able to explain who and what
we are to interested parties.

I really need knowledgeable persons with accurate kit and gear to form the
contubernium. I don't care much for overlapping armor styles, but since this
unit is supposed to be typical of the confusion of 69 AD, that will be OK.
I'm also looking for a Decurio, to run the contubernium.
You don't have to speak Latin, but knowledge of Roman Drill is needed.
April 9, Friday, AM, when we can set up the display. Setup is from 8:30am,
and must be complete by 2 PM, when the Dealer Room opens.

"Education Day" April 9th school tours begins, however, by 9:30 AM.
If we want to work on educating the kids, we will need to coordinate
with the con so we can have some of us setting up the display while others
do a presentation that AM to the schools.
All volunteers who work six or more hours, receive complementary
admission to the General Admission events. This work would include
things like a military "drill," an Education Day presentation, a Guard at
the door to the display room, etc.
So, if all the participating NR members work the six hours of "Education
Day," they're covered for the weekend. Besides the lodging and food, the only
costs that the con is asking for are covering the table rental for the
organization display in the display room.

As for setting up the Cremona Recreation, on Sat. my friend and I, have that
covered. The figures (600 of them) are 1/2 painted, and we will be working on
the terrain board next month. My friends in Italy are preparing the map of
the battleground from which we will design our terrain board.

I can't stress how important it is for NR personal to take part. Besides
myself most of NR CA province notables will be there. Our busy Propraetor
will attend two days, one of our Praetor Urbanus will be there as well a
several Legionari. But we need more. We need people to go to the schools on
education day, and discuss Roman history with the kids. We need people to man
the display and explain what NR means. We will gain publicity since the event
will be covered by the media. I realize that airfare and lodging is not
cheap, but I think that an investment in NR now, will pay dividends in the
future.
Thank you for your time.
Valete!
Q. Fabius Maximus
(Steve Phenow)
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=061044104089235135169082190036" >sfp55@--------</--------;

Celebrate History
<a href="http://www.celebratehistory.com/" target="_top" >http://www.celebratehistory.com/</a>

Subject:	Fwd: Ritual to celebrate Nova Roman New Year
From:	Claudia Aprica quinta_claudia_lucentia_aprica@--------
Date:	Wed, 17 Feb 1999 02:21:08 -0800 (PST)

Salvete, omnes!

I'm forwarding an announcement of a public ritual which we will
be performing in Britannia to celebrate the foundation of Nova Roma,
which I have just sent to all my British citizens. Whilst I realise
that this is likely to be a bit out of the way for most people on the
Nova Roma list, I wanted to make the details public anyway, just so
you know that, as with the banquet we held, you would all be welcome
at our ritual if you could attend!
I'd also be interested to know if anyone else has any plans for
celebrating the anniversary of Nova Roma's foundation. Do the College
of Pontiffs or the Chief Vestal have anything planned? I've been a bit
surprised to see nothing about this on the mailing list, as it is
obviously a very important event for us all.
I'll look forward to hearing what else people are planning, if
anything!
Vale,
Aprica.




---Claudia Aprica <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=053075020185175031223102001140243115239144190179017171173211025056109087020150170193201077179247241163050" >quinta_claudia_lucentia_aprica@--------</a> wrote:
>
> From: Claudia Aprica <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=053075020185175031223102001140243115239144190179017171173211025056109087020150170193201077179247241163050" >quinta_claudia_lucentia_aprica@--------</a>
>
> Salvete, Britannici!
>
> As you may know, we are fast approaching the anniversary of the
> foundation of Nova Roma, on the 1st March. This is not only our
> foundation date, but also the beginning of the Roman religious year,
> and it therefore seem like an eminently suitable occasion for us to
> celebrate with a public ritual!
>
> The Gens Claudia Lucentia is therefore proud to announce the
> offering of prayers and ritual to Vesta and to the Capitoline Triad of
> Jupiter, Juno and Minerva, to be led by Q. Claudia Lucentia Aprica,
> your acting Propraetor, and her son Cn. Claudius Lucentius Corvinus on
> Sunday Feburary 28th from 3pm onwards. The ritual will be held at:
>
> 4, Chilswell Rd. (off Whitehouse Rd.),
> Grandpont,
> Oxford.
>
> We intend to follow something like this format:
>
> 3pm - participants arrive, meet each other, and spend some time
> relaxing and getting to know each other.
> c. 3:30 - we move into a formal 'pre-ritual' discussion, where we
> all look at the prayers we are going to use together, and discuss both
> their meaning and the wider significance of the ritual we are about to
> perform. This session should act as a general chance to share thoughts
> or feelings relating to Roman religion, and should help to create the
> right 'mood' for the ritual.
> Once everyone feels that they have had the chance to discuss the
> ritual fully, we move into the actual offering. This will probably
> take the rough form of offerings and prayers to each of the deities
> concerned spoken on behalf of all us of, and of the state of Nova
> Roma, by one of the Claudii Lucentii, followed by offerings and
> prayers by all individuals who wish to make them.
> After the ritual is completed, we will have a second,
> 'post-ritual' discussion, during which everyone will get the chance to
> talk about the ritual just performed, and their personal responses to
> it.
> Once that's done, it'll be pretty much time to slap a couple of
> pizzas in the oven, crack open some beers, and generally celebrate the
> foundation of our state!
>
> The above is all open to alteration and suggestions, as this
> ritual is intended to be a public celebration and I want it to meet
> the needs and interests of all of us. Vesta and the Capitoline Triad
> have been chosen as the focus of our ritual, because of their
> significance to the Roman state, but if there are any other deities
> which people feel would be appropriate, and would like included in the
> ritual, we will be more than happy to add them! I'd really be very
> glad to hear any responses to the above.
>
> This ritual is obviously primarily of interest to the pagans
> amongst us, but since I am aware that there are also many non-pagan
> citizens in Britannia, I would like to state that non-pagans will be
> entirely welcome at our ritual, should they wish to observe out of
> interest. My policy in Britannia is to try to organise a range of
> events which reflect the interests of both the pagans and non-pagans
> amongst us, so if this ritual is not your cup of tea, don't worry!
> There will be plenty more events coming up which will be of interest
> to non-pagans as well.
>
> If you are interested in attending this ritual, please get in
> touch with me, Aprica, either by e-mail or by phone on 10865 514 102
> to let us know, and so that we can give detailed directions of how to
> find the house. I can see right now that the best way to approach
> Chilswell Rd. from the south would be to come into Oxford on the
> A4144, drop your car at the Red Bridge Park and Ride car-park, and
> catch the Park and Ride bus to the nearest stop to Whitehouse Rd.
> Anyone coming from other directions, or on public transport, will have
> to let me know where they're coming from, and I'll see what advice I
> can give.
>
> I'll look forward to hearing from you all, and I do hope that as
> many as possible of you will be able to attend.
>
> Multas felicitates,
> Aprica.
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Subject:	Re: Digest Number 280
From:	"Nicolaus Moravius" n_moravius@--------
Date:	Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:37:32 PST

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> 6. Re: NR Taxes
> From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a>
>
>Et idem in me!
>
>______________________________________________________
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:35:07 -0800
> From: Raz-------- <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a>
>Subject: Re: NR Taxes
>
>My opinion is No Taxes.
>
>C. Aelius Ericius.

______________________________
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:14:15 -0600 (CST)
> From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a>
>Subject: Re: NR Taxes
>
>On 02/16/99 17:35:07 you wrote:
>>
>>From: Raz-------- <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a>
>>
>>My opinion is No Taxes.
>>
>>C. Aelius Ericius.
>
>I halfway agree with Eri.
>No Taxes until we have a final budget.
>
>After that, let the debates continue unrestrained.
>
>-- Flavia Claudia
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:32:33 -0600
> From: Mega--------bin--------<a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=243232178182078116015232190036129" >amgunn@--------</a>
>Subject: Re: Dues Structure
>
>Avete Quirites!
>
><--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------; wrote: (surgery comitted) Wh--------er we w--------to do, we
need
>money! It's either that or pick up the swords and go into battle!
Venator?
>Audens? : )
>
>Dex, right now I have a job where I can use my education and
experience, legally.
>Though, I know a few tricks involving biographical leverage.....
>
>Valete - Venator
>
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:41:05 -0600
> From: Mega--------bin--------<a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=243232178182078116015232190036129" >amgunn@--------</a>
>Subject: Re: Speech at forum II
>
>Salvete Omnes;
>
>I find myself in agreement with the Honorable Dexippus's proposal. It
is an
>elaboration of an idea I was mulling over. Audens, I'll ride along
with this one
>for purposes of the discussion and idea formulation.
>
>Valete - Venator
>
><--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------; wrote:
>
>> No...No..No...just that I don't understand why there is pushback on a
>> mandatory tax/dues structure of a measely $12.00 a year but yet
suggestions
>> for donations of $20 or more.
>>
>> So...with that...here is my recommendation to be included on the
official
>> record (per Audens request) and then I am leaving this discussion as
it (like
>> the others before it) have become tiresome.
>>
>> I recommend a tax of U.S. $12.00 per calendar year be levied on all
Nova Roman
>> citizens beginning one year after their citizenship approval by the
Censors.
>> The Gens will not be taxed nor be required to collect tax from their
members
>> and forward to the treasury. Each citizen will be responsible for
his/her own
>> tax payment directly to the NR treasury. Each Pater/Materfamilias
can
>> encourage his/her gens members to pay the tax on time and in full but
will not
>> be punished or fined if a gens member fails to do so.
>>
>> Failure to pay the tax will result in a denial of certain priveleges
that
>> should be voted on by the senate (not by the populace..afterall, this
is why
>> we have elected officials). For instance...perhaps removal from the
onelist
>> board for the first month a tax is late. Then perhaps a denial in
voting
>> priveleges after 2 months of non-paid tax. Then finally removal of
>> citizenship after 3 months of non-paid tax. (these are just
suggestions...I'm
>> sure the Senate and Censors can think of appropriate disciplinary
actions in
>> each case). This will incent citizens to pay their tax on time and
in full.
>>
>> Furthermore, I propose that if an individual makes a voluntary
donation equal
>> to or greater than the mandatory yearly tax, he/she be pardoned from
paying
>> the tax for that year (but only that year...for instance, if someone
makes a
>> donation of $24 dollars, that does not excuse him or her from paying
next
>> year's $12 tax). If an individual makes a donation after that year's
tax due
>> date, the donation pardon will carry into the following year. The
added bonus
>> (and incentive) is that a voluntary donation will be tax deductible
(pending
>> Cassius' submission of appropriate papers to the government) but the
mandatory
>> tax will not be.
>>
>> I believe this is a fair compromise and will help ease both tention
and budget
>> concerns here in Nova Roma.
>>
>> With this said...I'm done (of course though I will respond to any
replies to
>> this suggestion...but this is my official proposal).
>>
>> --Dexippus
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>

Subject:	Re: Fwd: Ritual to celebrate Nova Roman New Year
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:07:18 -0800

Claudia Aprica wrote:

> I've been a bit
> surprised to see nothing about this on the mailing list, as it is
> obviously a very important event for us all.
> I'll look forward to hearing what else people are planning, if
> anything!
> Vale,
> Aprica.

I fear everyone has been too concerned with money. There are other things Nova
Roma should be doing.

Ericius

Subject:	Citizen List
From:	missmoon@--------
Date:	Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:09:54 -0600 (CST)

Since so many people have wondered...

The Citizen's List is completed and is being transmitted to the Consuls and Censores.

This facilitates the assignment of Tribes and Centuries, and the Comitae, which is necessary for votes, debates,
hearings & trials, etc.

-- Flavia Claudia

Subject:	Re: Celebrate History Event. NR helpers needed.
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:32:37 -0800

Salvete.

Fabius.
Have you been in contact with Vartarius and his legionaries?

Vartarius.
Have you been in contact with Fabius about your legionaries?

The last I heard was in the negative, but intended.

To Both, and all
Using this list to coordinate can be a more sure way of getting through than the
phone, though not as personal. The email Will be picked up, eventually.

Fabius, in front of all Nova Roma I want to thank you for putting your Cremona
game together for this Celebrate History con rather than the one you had first
intended. It will be a definite attention getter. So will Vartarius and his
people (Vartarius told me early this month that some legionaries from the X
Legion might also show). Fabius, if you can get another eight... Well. The
Romans WILL be noticed. I hope to ask you both more detailed questions off the
public list.

Once again...
Evoe, Fabius! Good work.

Valete.
C. Aelius Ericius
Propraetor of California Provincia

Subject:	Re: Citizen List
From:	SFP55@--------
Date:	Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:29:52 EST

In a message dated 2/17/99 5:10:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a> wr--------:

<< The Citizen's List is completed and is being transmitted to the Consuls and
Censores.

This facilitates the assignment of Tribes and Centuries, and the Comitae,
which is necessary for votes, debates,
hearings & trials, etc.
>>
This is wonderful news. Well done, Compilers!
QFM