| Subject: |
Re: New Legate Appointment |
| From: |
legion6@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 1 Mar 1999 03:12:26 -0600 (CST) |
|
AUDENS!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Fellow Tribune Done Good!! (I knew he'd amount to something one a'
these days...) >({|;-)
My greatest, most profound, and most numerous congratulations are in
order. Yet more proof that things are a little different in Rome;
that, amongst the Romans, nice things can and do happen to good people.
Congrats again, Tri--whoops, LEGATE Minucius Audens. My faith is
renewed; I can think of no one more fully-deserving of such a post!
(Dang, that means I gotta salute 'im now, dunnit?) >({|:-)
Yours under the Eagles,
---
__________ _<~) __________
<-\\\\@@@@@) /##\ (@@@@@////-> Märia Villarroel <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a>
<-\\\@@@@(#####@@@@///-> Historical Re-Creationist
<-\\\*##*///-> and Citizen of Rome
o---<<<<||SPQR||>>>>---o Latin lessons, History lectures
///\\\ Role-playing Games, too!
aka Lucius Marius Fimbria on the weekends
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| Subject: |
Felix Novus Annus |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" amg@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:10:16 -0000 |
|
Salvete omnes
I really regret not having been in Nova Roma since the Kalends of March... Yet, when I found it, my heart was filled with happiness, for until then I though I was the only Roman in the world.
I'm very happy to have found you all, even those that don't like me very much).
May the Gods of Rome bless our nation.
Roma aeterna est!
Iuppiter Optimus Maximus Novam Romam sanctifica
Ceres Novam Romam sanctifica
Liber Novam Romam sanctifica
Libera Novam Romam sanctifica
Bel-Helios Sol Invicte Deus Novam Romam sanctifica
Mithras Novam Romam sanctifica
Ita est
Valete omnes
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Aedile Plebis et Propraetor Provinaciae Lusitaniae
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| Subject: |
Re: Felix Novus Annus |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 01 Mar 1999 03:04:45 -0800 |
|
Salvete Omnes,
I have been with Nova Roma since March 1. And I am glad to still be
apart of Nova Roma. I think of everyone as a part of my family. May
Nova Roma continue to grow in numbers, in dedication and in strength!
May all of our dieties continue to bless Nova Roma! And may our next
year be peaceful and productive. :)
Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Praetor Urbanus
Antonio Grilo wrote:
> Salvete omnes
>
> I really regret not having been in Nova Roma since the Kalends of
> March... Yet, when I found it, my heart was filled with happiness, for
> until then I though I was the only Roman in the world.
> I'm very happy to have found you all, even those that don't like me
> very much).
> May the Gods of Rome bless our nation.
> Roma aeterna est!
>
> Iuppiter Optimus Maximus Novam Romam sanctifica
> Ceres Novam Romam sanctifica
> Liber Novam Romam sanctifica
> Libera Novam Romam sanctifica
> Bel-Helios Sol Invicte Deus Novam Romam sanctifica
> Mithras Novam Romam sanctifica
> Ita est
>
> Valete omnes
> Antonius Gryllus Graecus
> Aedile Plebis et Propraetor Provinaciae Lusitaniae
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| Subject: |
Fw: [IAC] Iraq's archaeological heritage |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" amg@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:12:08 -0000 |
|
Salvete omnes
Maybe there is another way.. Mesopotamia cannot be lost.
Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
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From: Rania Masri &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=194232113112127132015181190036129" >rmasri@--------&--------a>
To: &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=210166219249018132090057203064129208071" >iac---------@--------&--------a> &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=210166219249018132090057203064129208071" >iac---------@--------&--------a>
Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 3:27 PM
Subject: [IAC] Iraq's archaeological heritage
>=========Iraq Action Coalition ========<a href="http://leb.net/IAC/" target="_top" >http://leb.net/IAC/</a> =======
>To subscribe, send an e-mai-------- "&-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029166177007127154112154065248247208071048" >majordomo@--------&--------a>" with
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>From: Harri--------riffin <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=180166091180082198050082148148231016150102166196061130152150" >harri--------riffin@--------</a>
>
>This article by Kevin Tibbles gives insight into the sad fate of part of
>Iraq's cultural heritage as a result of the ongoing war. "In a sense, it
>is a total war against the past.", says Professor John Russell of the
>Massachusetts College of Art: "History is being erased, with no
>possibility of being recovered."
>
>[Note: the web-site at which I found this article has an insert on
>sanctions and their effect on Iraqi economy and society: it's been
>tastelessly dubbed "Iraq theatre" but see
><a href="http://msnbc.com/news/241628.asp]" target="_top" >http://msnbc.com/news/241628.asp]</a>
>
>********************
>Iraq's ancient Babylon bites the dust: Priceless artifacts go missing
>amid isolation and turmoil
>By Kevin Tibbles, NBC NEWS CORRESPONDENT
>
>BABYLON, Iraq, Feb. 19 - Within the borders of present-day Iraq,
>thousands of years before the West's showdown with Saddam Hussein, stood
>the ancient civilization of Babylon. Once recounted in myths as the
>"birthplace of the modern world," Iraq's so-called "cradle of
>civilization" is now crumbling.
>
>ANCIENT BABYLON, a site of Biblical lore a couple hours south of
>Baghdad, is only one of more than 10,000 vital archeological sites in
>Iraq that have fallen into complete disrepair. Scientists for hundreds
>of years have made their way to modern-day Iraq's windswept deserts to
>dig in the sands for answers to modern civilization's most perplexing
>puzzles.
>
>It was a team of German archeologists in the late 1800s that uncovered
>much of Babylon's ancient palace and temples. The biblical Tower of
>Babel once stood here, and historians still seek the secrets of the
>famed Hanging Gardens of Babylon, one of the ancient wonders of the
>world. "[Babylon] is where you have ... the first examples of writing,
>the first villages, the first wheel, the first boats," says Moyad Said,
>director of Baghdad's Iraqi Museum. Yet the 20th century turmoil that
>now engulfs this troubled region threatens to destroy Babylon's history
>forever.
>
>Sanctions imposed on President Saddam Hussein [sic] by the West now
>prevent scientists from visiting Iraq's treasured archeological sites.
>There is little money to preserve and protect priceless remains, so
>thousand-year-old structures sit abandoned. Clay bricks with
>5,000-year-old wedge-shaped "cuneiform" writing on them from the days of
>King Nebuchadnezzar, one of the most famous rulers of the ancient world,
>are strewn in the sand.
>
>LOOTING IN THE SAND
>But even more threatening to the history contained in these ancient
>sites are thieves and profiteers who steal, loot and smuggle the
>valuable artifacts out of the country to be sold to the highest bidder.
>"What seems to be happening in Iraq is unprecedented in any Middle
>Eastern country in modern times," says Professor John Russell of the
>Massachusetts College of Art. "Namely, there is the wholesale looting of
>famous and undiscovered archeological sites." During the Gulf War,
>priceless Babylon artifacts were removed for safekeeping from the Iraqi
>Museum in Baghdad. The items have since disappeared, and display cases
>sit dark and empty.
>
>Prior to the Gulf War in the early 1990s, Russell helped excavate the
>ancient city of Ninevah in northern Iraq. He documented what he found.
>Recently, an Iraqi friend sent him photographs of the same site, showing
>that all of its priceless historical beauty had been stolen. "History is
>being erased, with no possibility of being recovered," Russell says. "In
>a sense, it is a total war against the past."
>
>Many of the sites being looted have never been studied by scientists, so
>when the goods are dug up and moved, the historical record is damaged.
>There will be no record of where the piece came from or its significance
>in relation to the area in which it was found. The Iraqis do not know
>what to do to combat the looting. They are a people at once proud of
>their history and devastated by what is taking place before them. The
>Iraqi Museum's Said is visibly upset as he takes me on a walking tour of
>his country's main museum in a now derelict Baghdad neighborhood. Row
>upon row of display cases sit empty gathering dust. The glass cabinets
>were emptied of their artifacts prior to the Gulf War for safekeeping
>during the Allied bombing campaign, and many of the historical pieces
>have simply vanished.
>
>He pauses next to a 3,000-year-old "winged bull" - a stone statue 10
>feet in height. The bull has been cut into 11 chunks, its value
>virtually destroyed. "Who did this?" I ask. "This winged bull was cut up
>by the thieves," Said responds, pointing to deep cuts in the reassembled
>piece. "They used a mechanical saw to cut through here ... and here.
>They were in the process of smuggling it out the country bit by bit
>before they were caught." Said says the majority of smugglers get away
>scot-free over Iraq's porous borders. Iraqis are so poor that they have
>resorted to pick-pocketing their own history to survive, he says.
>
>A MARKET WITH WEALTHY COLLECTORS
>The priceless artifacts are not simply being scooped up and dumped onto
>a black market to be peddled in the antique and curio shops of Western
>Europe and North America. Nicholas Postgate of England's Cambridge
>University says the black market also includes unscrupulous dealers who
>pass the goods on to wealthy collectors for huge sums. "Sometimes it may
>be obvious to any reasonable person that the artifact must have been
>stolen," he says. "But because it can't be [proven] a dealer will say,
>'Well, why should I worry?'" "[The artifacts] are gone, and are
>presumably in some collector's collection out of sight of the rest of
>the world," Postgate says.
>
>Said says he can only hope that by the time Iraq manages to reconcile
>itself with its Arab neighbors and the rest of the world, some of this
>country's glorious history will be left. "We, in effect, will never be
>able to study our past," he says. "Either the artifacts remain buried
>under the sands forever, or they will be buried in the private vaults of
>wealthy collectors. In the end, we may never see them again."
>
>********************
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: Digest Number 295 |
| From: |
"Nicolaus Moravius" n_moravius@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:51:29 PST |
|
Salvete, Omnes!
The Dominus C. Aelius Ericius wrote:
>Subject: Bonus Novus Annus Nova Roma. Bonus Natalus.
>
>Salvete, Quirites!
>
>A year ago tonight I was reading the download from the ROMARCH (Roman
>Archeology) list. One of the posts was about a new group that was
forming, for
>the restoration of the Roman Republic and the Religio Romana. It was
signed by
>somebody who called himself Flavius Vedius Germanicus. This guy said
the group
>was officially beginning on the Kalends of March.
>
>With a fair amount of scepticism about "another Pagan group" I went to
the
>website and checked it out. Read everything over the next few days.
Began
>corresponding with Vedius Germanicus. Before long, less than three
days, I
>mailed in my application. After a bit Germanicus started asking me to
be the
>Nova Roma governor for California Provincia. To make it short, I said,
No, no.
>Yes.
>
>Nova Roma is a good thing. I believe the Gods and Goddesses and the
numinae of
>Roma are pleased.
>
>Ave Roma Immortalis!
>
>Vivant Nova Roma!
>
>
>Caius Aelius Ericius.
>
- I couldn't agree more with the sentiments expressed, but shouldn't it
be 'Bona Dies Natailis', 'numenes' and 'vivat' ?
Valete in pace deorum,
N. Moravius Vado.
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| Subject: |
Latin trivia was Digest Number 295 |
| From: |
"RMerullo" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:37:59 -0500 |
|
Salvete Nicolaus Moravi et alii
>From: "Nicolaus Moravius" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=091089014007127031215056228219114187071048139" >n_moravius@--------</a>
Just a couple of comments on Latin. No thematic content or opinion.
>
>>Subject: Bonus Novus Annus Nova Roma. Bonus Natalus.
>>
>>Ave Roma Immortalis!
>>
>>Vivant Nova Roma!
>- I couldn't agree more with the sentiments expressed, but shouldn't it
>be 'Bona Dies Natailis', 'numenes' and 'vivat' ?
>
>Valete in pace deorum,
>
>N. Moravius Vado.
>
'Dies' is masculine, so it would be Bonus Dies Natalis or Bonum Diem Natalem
(accusative case to give the sense that the speaker wishes to give the
object to his/her audience)
'Numina' seems right to me?
'Vivat Nova Roma'
C Marius Merullus
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| Subject: |
Re: ...Bonam Diem Natalem |
| From: |
legion6@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:39:43 -0600 (CST) |
|
Salvete, Quirites!
C Aelius Ericius, Propraetor Californiensis, said:
>A year ago tonight I was reading the download from the ROMARCH (Roman
>Archeology) list. One of the posts was about a new group that was
>forming, for the restoration of the Roman Republic and the Religio
>Romana.
I remember that post! I, too, subscribe to ROMARCH and another one,
ARMALIST; I think when I was most active on either I was still on my
Juno account (<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218249036129208" >legion6@--------</a>, since closed; fellow-recipients of
either list might remember me by that handle). I remember not thinking
too much about the Nova Roma post at the time; it sounded like
something out of a Marvel comic; also, something else was cropping up
on ARMALIST called the Roman Heritage Society, dedicated to the
restoration of Hadrian's Wall, and I was waiting to see whether either
of them was going to be just another flash-in-the-pan.
Then I started seeing some feedback on a third List, LATIN-L (for
teachers and students of the language at all levels), and the early
returns were good! These Latin teachers, always looking for new ways
to breathe life into Roman culture for their classes, had been to NR's
nascent Web site and come away impressed. (Major Untapped Market Here,
folks!!!) Not long before, they were doing their best to reconstruct a
Terminalia ritual; now they had pages of similar rites, in Latin and in
English, and the buzz was "This is incredible! These are resources you
don't find anywhere else on the Web!" So of course I had to have a
look.
That was in April. I was highly impressed. Still, I am a cautious
sort; I tend to commit myself fully to whatever I'm into, but the
corollary is that I feel the need for extensive research prior to
investment of time and, especially, emotional energy. Me enlisting in
anything is like anybody else getting married and meaning it. Ergo,
I'd lived on that site for three months before my Praetor contacted me
via a reenactor page and, after a short courtship, got me to apply for
Citizenship. The rest, as they say, is history.
>Nova Roma is a good thing. I believe the Gods and Goddesses and the
>numina of Roma are pleased.
I think so too, Erici, comespiritu. I think this one's a keeper.
>Ave Roma Immortalis!
>
>Vivat Nova Roma!
ROMA RESURGENS!!
Yours under the Eagles,
---
__________ _<~) __________
<-\\\\@@@@@) /##\ (@@@@@////-> Märia Villarroel <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a>
<-\\\@@@@(#####@@@@///-> Historical Re-Creationist
<-\\\*##*///-> and Citizen of Rome
o---<<<<||SPQR||>>>>---o Latin lessons, History lectures
///\\\ Role-playing Games, too!
aka Lucius Marius Fimbria on the weekends
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| Subject: |
Computer problems... AGAIN! :( |
| From: |
Cassius622@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:50:39 EST |
|
Salve,
Just in case the Pontificial College has been wondering where the heck I am,
I'm having computer problems. Supposedly they'll be fixed by Wednesday, so
hopefully I'll be online by then.
In the brief window I had when the computer was going I was busy fighting with
the Senate, and updating the Julian Society site. Now just as I'm ready to get
back to the Pontificial College...
Question for ya. Working on the Julian Society site gave me an idea. Suppose
we put up priesthood training materials on a website? If we didn't hook it
into any search engines, we could simply give the URL to any new Camillus or
Camilla that was doing research. There are a good few primary online sources,
for example, that we could have links to, etc.
Anyway. I'll be back with you guys soon, AND have a completely revamped "super
computer" in a couple of days. Hopefully I won't be lynched in abstentia in
the meantime!
Vale,
Cassius
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| Subject: |
Re: New Legate Appointment - New England Provincia |
| From: |
Diana/Orbianna proserpina@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 01 Mar 1999 18:14:31 -0500 |
|
Congratulations, Audens! Yay!!!!
At 21:13 28/02/99 EST, you wrote:
>From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------;
>
>Salvete Omnes,
>
>I am very pleased to report that Marcus Minucius Audens has been officially
>posted to the rank of Legate for the Connecticut Regio of the Nova Brittania
>(New England) Provincia.
>
>As Legate, Marcus Minucius Audens will work to publicize Nova Roma within his
>Regio, and will also be working on behalf of the Nova Brittania Provincia
as a
>whole. I believe that this posting will be a great step forward in getting
>this Provincia more active, and hope that everyone will join me in
>congratulating Audens in his new position!
>
>Valete,
>
>Marcus Cassius Julianus
>Proconsul, Nova Brittania Provincia
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site!
><a href="http://www.onelist.com" target="_top" >http://www.onelist.com</a>
>Onelist: Fostering connections and information exchange
>
Iustina Luciania Orbianna
Gens Luciania
Citizen of Nova Roma
----------------------------
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=165212250009158116172098203108129208071" &--------rbianna@--------</a&--------br>
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197212253112056209171056066140114002071048139" >proserpina@--------</a>
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/soho/studios/7401" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/soho/studios/7401</a>
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"Scientia est potentia." -Francis Bacon
"Pax Cererem nutrit, Pacis alumna Ceres" -Ovid "Fasti" 1.701-704
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| Subject: |
Re: Macellum |
| From: |
Diana/Orbianna proserpina@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 01 Mar 1999 18:21:04 -0500 |
|
Salve, Patricia Cassia,
Oh, no, no. Don't get me wrong. Palladius was right. I'm still working on
the last details of my site, but I do have a place for it :-) I just wasn't
aware that they were waiting for that to be completed. Just a small
communication glitch. No big deal. When the site's done. I'll email the
details to you and Palladius. Thanks for your concern.
I'm still interested in doing that volunteer work though. Let me know the
details of that, if you would.
Vale,
Orbianna
At 15:23 01/03/99 -0000, you wrote:
>From: -------- <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
>
>I've heard from Audens and Orbianna that their businesses were approved
>for the Macellum (marketplace) of the Web site, but never posted there.
>Is there anyone else who is feeling similarly neglected?
>
>Audens and Orbianna, please send me all relevant information on your
>businesses and I'll get this posted as soon as possible.
>
>Patricia Cassia
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Come check out our brand new web site!
><a href="http://www.onelist.com" target="_top" >http://www.onelist.com</a>
>Onelist: Making the Internet intimate
>
Iustina Luciania Orbianna
Gens Luciania
Citizen of Nova Roma
----------------------------
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=165212250009158116172098203108129208071" &--------rbianna@--------</a&--------br>
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197212253112056209171056066140114002071048139" >proserpina@--------</a>
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/soho/studios/7401" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/soho/studios/7401</a>
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"Scientia est potentia." -Francis Bacon
"Pax Cererem nutrit, Pacis alumna Ceres" -Ovid "Fasti" 1.701-704
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| Subject: |
Re: Felix Novus Annus |
| From: |
Diana/Orbianna proserpina@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 01 Mar 1999 18:35:25 -0500 |
|
Salvete!
I second that! (and I like you, Graece). Vivat Nova Roma imortalis! It's
true what they said about Rome being eternal. She's lived in the hearts and
spiritual heritage of many of us. And now, at the end of an age, at the
dawn of a new age, those who've heard the calling are returning to the
embrace of what once was, but modified for the coming millenium. This is
indeed the will of the gods.
I went to Southern Delaware on Saturday for a workshop with Dolores
Ashcroft-Nowicki. She is an incredibly powerful and sincere woman. We
discussed the deities, Pluto and Proserpina, in an indepth psychological
and spiritual manner. As we were told by Dolores, "Psychology and magic are
interchangeable. They have a common origin." This was told to her by Dione
Fortune.
At the end of the workshop we performed a ritual which invoked the twelve
Olympian deities. The purpose of the ritual was to mark the end of the age
and the dawn of a new one. (I actually got to play one of the deities!!!
Those like me, who were one of the twelve, were to receive the invoked
energy and "become" that deity). The Upholders of the ritual then gave a
boon and made a request of one or more deities, on behalf of our
civilization. It was quite beautiful to hear what they requested, and more
than once I was moved to tears.
I have the ritual in printed form, and someday when a number of us, as
citizens of Nova Roma, coverge together, perhaps we can perform the ritual
together.
Valete,
Orbianna
At 11:10 01/03/99 -0000, you wrote:
> Salvete omnes
>
>I really regret not having been in Nova Roma since the Kalends of March...
>Yet, when I found it, my heart was filled with happiness, for until then I
>though I was the only Roman in the world.
>I'm very happy to have found you all, even those that don't like me very
>much).
>May the Gods of Rome bless our nation.
>Roma aeterna est!
>
>Iuppiter Optimus Maximus Novam Romam sanctifica
>Ceres Novam Romam sanctifica
>Liber Novam Romam sanctifica
>Libera Novam Romam sanctifica
>Bel-Helios Sol Invicte Deus Novam Romam sanctifica
>Mithras Novam Romam sanctifica
>Ita est
>
>Valete omnes
>Antonius Gryllus Graecus
>Aedile Plebis et Propraetor Provinaciae Lusitaniae
Iustina Luciania Orbianna
Gens Luciania
Citizen of Nova Roma
----------------------------
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=165212250009158116172098203108129208071" &--------rbianna@--------</a&--------br>
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197212253112056209171056066140114002071048139" >proserpina@--------</a>
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/soho/studios/7401" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/soho/studios/7401</a>
----------------------------
"Scientia est potentia." -Francis Bacon
"Pax Cererem nutrit, Pacis alumna Ceres" -Ovid "Fasti" 1.701-704
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