Forum Romanum


Subject:	Re: Patricius
From:	Pythia kingan@--------
Date:	Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:48:42 +0000

RMerullo wrote:

> A few questions about the man who came to be known as St. Patrick:
>
> - Was he not Italian, living most of his life in Roman Brittania?

Well....I don't think he was Italian...but he wan't Irish that's for
certain...

>
>
> - Was he captured in a Celtic raid and brought as a captive to Ireland?

Yes, somewhere in England or Scotland, and he was sold as a slave, and he
eventually ran away, and went back to England, taking holy orders.

>
>
> - When are these events thought to have happened, 350 CE or so?

Around 450, I think.

> - How long do you think I would live if I were to go to a busy corner in
> South Boston today carrying a sign reading "St. Patrick was Italian"?

About as long as some of these Northern Irish morons we know who claim he was
Protestant! lol. When you're married to a man from County Down you hear all
sorts of strange things....

Best, Pythia

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>
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>
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Subject:	The Eagle
From:	hadji <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=180166080058082135090082190036" >hadji@--------</a>
Date:	Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:10:03 +0100

I would like to express my sincerely gratitudes to our honoured Quinta
Claudia Lucentia Aprica. She subscripted me to the Eagle and generously
resolved all the problems with payments and posting the newsletter.
Yesterday I received my first copy and it was a very happy and exciting
moment for me.
My thanks belongs too to all the peoples have arranged this wonderful
newsletter and have written there so interesting articles.

Magnas gratias Quinta Aprica,
magnas gratias Qvirites

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Subject:	Liberalia
From:	"Antonio Grilo" amg@--------
Date:	Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:37:45 -0000

Salvete civis

I'd like you to know that yesterday, March 17, as Aedile Plebis I've made an
incense offering to Liber and Libera, asking for their blessing upon Nova
Roma.

Valete

Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Aedile Plebis


Subject:	Italian archaeology- Great site!!!!
From:	"Antonio Grilo" amg@--------
Date:	Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:20:24 -0000

Salvete omnes

I found a great site!!!
<a href="http://www.archeologia.com" target="_top" >http://www.archeologia.com</a>

Valete

Antonius Gryllus Graecus


Subject:	Re: Liberalia
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:34:33 EST


Subject:	Re: Liberalia
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:36:00 EST

In a message dated 3/18/99 4:29:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a>
writes:

<< I'd like you to know that yesterday, March 17, as Aedile Plebis I've made
an
incense offering to Liber and Libera, asking for their blessing upon Nova
Roma. >>

And I shared a bottle of wine with Bacchus and allowed myself to fall asleep
at His altar. What a feeling waking up 4 hours later with the candle burned
out and an empty wine bottle in my hand. Wish I could remember the dreams!

--Dexippus


Subject:	Modern Garum?
From:	Michael Cessna clinkerbuilt2@--------
Date:	Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:02:58 -0800 (PST)

Salve, omnes!!

I saw something interesting yesterday. It was a ref to a Vietnamese
condiment called 'nuoc maum' (I think). It was described as "...a
fermented fish sauce... probably similar to Roman garum sauce...."

So...does any one have any experience with Vietnamese food?

Valete,

Gneaus Marius Asiaticus


Subject:	Re: Modern Garum?
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:19:07 -0800

Yes. I got some of the good stuff $2.50 for 255 ml.. Cheaper was same price for
twice the amount. Nouc Mam is also a brand name. I got "Thai Kitchen" Fish
sauce. Same stuff. I think Venator went into the making of both nuoc mam and
garum in detail. They are done the same, except the Romans use pots and the
SEAsians traditionally use bamboo baskets. (Lots of bamboo in SEAsia.)

It is salty. Slight fish odor. I put it on space food salisbury steak (2-3
shakes) and the smell and taste was lost, just a bit more salty. Of course
Apicius calls for using the whole bottle. I don't have any SEAsian recipes for
it yet. Maybe it all got that far east via one of Crassus's legions.

Ericius.


Subject:	Re: Italian archaeology- Great site!!!!
From:	Cassius622@--------
Date:	Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:49:38 EST

In a message dated 3/18/99 8:45:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=200176234108158116015132190036129" >kingan@--------</a>
writes:

<<
This is an amazing site! Thanks so much....now I only wish I spoke Italian!

Pythia >>

Salvete,

If you go to the Alta Vista search engine, they have a free service called
Babel Fish. Just type the URL in, and it will translate the site into English
for you! :) The translation won't be perfect, (in fact, it'll be often
downright funny) but at least you'll be able to get the gist of the written
stuff.

Vale,

Marcus Cassius Julianus


Subject:	Re: Patricius
From:	"Tinnekke Bebout" tinnekke@--------
Date:	Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:14:20 PST

><a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a> writes:
>
>
> - Was he not Italian, living most of his life in Roman Brittania?
>
> - Was he captured in a Celtic raid and brought as a captive to
Ireland?
>
> - When are these events thought to have happened, 350 CE or so?
>
As far as my studies into the Roman past go in Roman Briton go, this is
what I found:

Succatus Patricius was a Briton with some Roman blood a couple
generations back. There are copies of church documents from the times
addressing him by his Briton name of Sucat. He was captured during an
Irish raid on the British when he was a teen. As far asw can be
determined, he was probably from Dumnonia aka Cornwall. And as far as
can be traced this was sometime in the mid 4th century.

Hope that helps...

Vale

L. Iunia Cypria
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