| Subject: |
Engineering |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:20:01 -0500 (EST) |
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ENGINEERING
(John G. Landels)
This examination of Greek and Roman engineering covers four areas;
mechanical, military, hydraulic, and minature engineering.These areas
have been chosen, because they illustrate both the versatality and the
limitations of Greek and Roman engineering. Among the literary sources
two writers are particularly important. Vitruvius Pollio, who lived in
the last century B.C. and worked under Augustus, wrote a latin treatise
in ten books, On Architechture (De Architectura). This title is to be
taken in a broader sense than our word "architechture," since it
embraces basic science, materials technlogy, hydraulics, stylistics,
public health and other topics. Hero of Alexandria, who lived a century
or so later, was a Greek writer whose works were not particularly
outstanding, but who has considerable interest and importance for us
because by the accidents of history his treatises -- Pnuematics,
Mechanics, and Catapult Design-- make up a large proportion of the very
small group of works on engineering that have been preserved.
Mechanical Engineering====
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| Subject: |
Nundinae (Market-days) |
| From: |
legion6@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 01:51:53 -0600 (CST) |
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Salvete, omnes...
On a completely-unrelated topic: Is it just me, or are the Market Days
a little off for this year?
Our last nundina in 1998 was Christmas Eve, 24 December. Eight days
later would have been the Kalends of Ianuarius; then 1/9, 1/17, and
1/25; 2, 10, 18, and 26 Februarius; then 6, 14, 22, and 30 Martius.
Yet the first Market Day listed for Ianuarius was on the 8th, meaning
there was no nundina between 24 Dec and 8 Ian. ...then the 16th, 24th
et alii as if we had started the nundinal reckoning from scratch in '99
instead of continuing it from 24 Dec. Is this in fact what happened,
and was it supposed to happen that way?
A couple of my fellow-Romans whom I've asked about it have told me they
were under the impression that the Romans started from scratch every
year. Yet I have been running on a Roman calendar for eight years; my
practice has been to observe the nundinae every eight days, without
reset; and when I joined Nova Roma, my nundinae for 1998 matched Nova
Roma's *exactly*. This year they match the ones on the Web calendar,
but no longer line up with the ones on the NR site.
Can anyone shed a little light on this one for me? Pontiffs? Aedile?
Webmistress? I'd hate to be out-of-sync for the rest of the year...
Thanks in advance,
---
__________ _<~) __________
<-\\\\@@@@@) /##\ (@@@@@////-> Märia Villarroel <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a>
<-\\\@@@@(#####@@@@///-> Historical Re-Creationist
<-\\\*##*///-> and Citizen of Rome
o---<<<<||SPQR||>>>>---o Latin lessons, History lectures
///\\\ Role-playing Games, too!
aka Lucius Marius Fimbria on the weekends
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| Subject: |
Ludi Romani |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" amg@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 11:35:25 +0100 |
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Salvete omnes
As Aedile Plebis I've the pleasure to announce that the Roman Games shall be
held for the fist time during the Festivals of Ceres in April (12th-19th).
The Augures of Nova Roma have already found a propicious date, which is 14th
April.
<<Having asked Ceres at which date She would like to see the games held in
her honor, I called out the dates one after another and waited for an
appropriate
sign. Upon calling April 14, 3 geese flew overhead from left to right of my
view.
Dexippus, Augur Novae Romae>>
The Ludi Romani shall consist of two parts:
1- Online arena/racing type games.
2- A page on Roman related computer and board games, possibly including data
on original Roman Games (both leisure tabletop games and the arena/racing
games).
As a 1st approach to the 1st part (online games), our citizens shall be able
to watch the progress of the games through a textual description (in a chat
room) performed by our honourable citizen and friend Q. F. Maximus.
The online games will in the future support placing of bets... And in the
future will allow competition between human players. There are several
alternatives:
- Robot program fighting with the famous game PCRobots and its variants
(<a href="http://arena.sci.univr.it/~fin/robot.html" target="_top" >http://arena.sci.univr.it/~fin/robot.html</a>);
- Use of another PC gladiator/chariot racing simulator.
It will be the online arena text description that will open the Ludi Romani
on April 14th. I hereby invite all Nova Roman citizens to assist the first
games of Nova Roma and honour in this way the Plebeian Gods Ceres, Liber and
Libera.
Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Aedile Plebis
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| Subject: |
Re: Engineering |
| From: |
"RMerullo" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:53:55 -0500 |
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Salvete Marce Minuci et alii
Ago gratias tibi pro scientia
Keep it coming please!
From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------br>
ENGINEERING
(John G. Landels)
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
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| Subject: |
Re: Ludi Romani |
| From: |
"RMerullo" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:00:44 -0500 |
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Salvete Antoni Grylle et alii
>From: "Antonio Grilo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a>
>
>
>As Aedile Plebis I've the pleasure to announce that the Roman Games shall
be
>held for the fist time during the Festivals of Ceres in April (12th-19th).
>The Augures of Nova Roma have already found a propicious date, which is
14th
>April.
Excellent. I can hardly wait.
>
>The Ludi Romani shall consist of two parts:
>1- Online arena/racing type games.
>2- A page on Roman related computer and board games, possibly including
data
>on original Roman Games (both leisure tabletop games and the arena/racing
>games).
>
>As a 1st approach to the 1st part (online games), our citizens shall be
able
>to watch the progress of the games through a textual description (in a chat
>room) performed by our honourable citizen and friend Q. F. Maximus.
Question: how do we observe? Is there a url to which we should point our
browsers in order to read the textual description of the action?
>
>It will be the online arena text description that will open the Ludi Romani
>on April 14th. I hereby invite all Nova Roman citizens to assist the first
>games of Nova Roma and honour in this way the Plebeian Gods Ceres, Liber
and
>Libera.
What assistance do you need?
>
>Valete
>
>Antonius Gryllus Graecus
>Aedile Plebis
Ago gratias magnas tibi O Honorose Aedilis
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
>
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| Subject: |
Market-days? |
| From: |
eburhard@--------) |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:14:00 -0500 |
|
could someone please inform a newbie when Market-days are?
gracia!
Catamus
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| Subject: |
Etruscans in the movies...sorta |
| From: |
"RMerullo" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:11:20 -0500 |
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Salvete Omnes
For those of you who may be up in the wee hours of Sunday morning, have
cable television and don't mind low-budget horror movies, you may wish to
tune in to TNT to see --
-----------------------------------------
ARTIFACT FROM HELL
A huge calcified figure found buried near Pompeii is sent to an American
museum where it begins to display strange qualities. Research indicates that
2,000 years ago it lived as Quintilius, an Etruscan slave-gladiator who
loved the daughter of a Roman senator. Richard Anderson stars in this
B-movie fave directed by the prolific Edward L. Cahn, the man responsible
for such treats as Guns Girl and Gangsters and Voodoo Woman.
Curse of the Faceless Man (1958)
Sunday, April 11 at 4:30 am ET/PT.
Rating: TV-PG
-----------------------------------------
But remember, you choose to watch this at your own risk. I make no
warranties whatsoever about the film's quality.
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
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| Subject: |
Re: Etruscans in the movies...sorta |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:07:49 EST |
|
In a message dated 3/30/99 2:18:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a> writes:
<< ARTIFACT FROM HELL
A huge calcified figure found buried near Pompeii is sent to an American
museum where it begins to display strange qualities. Research indicates that
2,000 years ago it lived as Quintilius, an Etruscan slave-gladiator who
loved the daughter of a Roman senator. Richard Anderson stars in this
B-movie fave directed by the prolific Edward L. Cahn, the man responsible
for such treats as Guns Girl and Gangsters and Voodoo Woman. >>
Richard Anderson? Is that Richard Dean Anderson who played MacGyver? Oh Gods
I love him! I'll be watching!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Market-days? |
| From: |
"RMerullo" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:27:51 -0500 |
|
Salvete Catame et alii
>From: <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=070181044180042031218223203043129208071" >eburhard@--------</a> (Douglas Swank)
>
>could someone please inform a newbie when Market-days are?
>gracia!
>Catamus
>
My understanding is that a Nova Roma Market Day occurs every eighth day,
reckoned from...the last Nova Roman Market Day.
Usually I cheat and look at the bottom of the Nova Roma index page on the
website (<a href="http://novaroma.org" target="_top" >http://novaroma.org</a>). If you look there, right now it says that
the next MD was on 3.20.99 (not much of a market day, only a couple of us
there, no more than two people in there at once if I correctly recall it) so
there must have been one on 3.28.99, and the next one will be on...Monday,
April 5th?
My gensmate Fimbria explained it to me thusly: count nine forward from the
last market day, including the day of the last market day. That's why it's
called "nundina", "nine day". The inclusive counting makes it very
confusing for me.
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
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| Subject: |
Re: Market-days? |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:06:32 EST |
|
In a message dated 3/30/99 2:13:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=070181044180042031218223203043129208071" >eburhard@--------</a> writes:
<< could someone please inform a newbie when Market-days are? >>
Check the website at novaroma.org in the Religio Romana under calendar.
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Etruscans in the movies...sorta |
| From: |
"RMerullo" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:43:16 -0500 |
|
Salvete Dexippe et alii
>From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------;
>
>In a message dated 3/30/99 2:18:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
><a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a> writes:
>
>
>Richard Anderson? Is that Richard Dean Anderson who played MacGyver? Oh
Gods
>I love him! I'll be watching!
I hate to say it, but I don't think that it's the same guy. Richard
Anderson starred in this movie in 1958, and the MacGyver actor was born in
1950...so he'd be a leading man at the age of eight if it were the same
person.
But hey, maybe they're related and look alike.
>
>--Dexippus
>
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
Probably the only one who will end up watching this movie...
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| Subject: |
Re: Etruscans in the movies...sorta |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:33:43 EST |
|
In a message dated 3/30/99 3:49:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a> writes:
<< I hate to say it, but I don't think that it's the same guy. Richard
Anderson starred in this movie in 1958, and the MacGyver actor was born in
1950...so he'd be a leading man at the age of eight if it were the same
person.
But hey, maybe they're related and look alike.
> >>
Ah...I thought it was a more modern movie. Oh well...maybe I'll watch it none
the less when I get back from the usual Saturday Night club tour. It's gotta
beat the Informercials!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Market-days? |
| From: |
"RMerullo" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:40:46 -0500 |
|
Salvete Dexippe et alii
>From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------;
>
>
>Check the website at novaroma.org in the Religio Romana under calendar.
>
>--Dexippus
>
That was a way to check before, but not as of this year. Market Days have
not been added in the new calendar format.
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
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| Subject: |
Re: Etruscans in the movies...sorta |
| From: |
MaNPaRoman@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 17:07:57 EST |
|
In a message dated 99-03-30 15:49:35 EST, you write:
> Gaius Marius Merullus
> Probably the only one who will end up watching this movie...
If I had a TV, I'd watch it, simply because I am addicted to stupid B movies
<G>.
Crys (gonna get me a TV some day, honest)
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| Subject: |
Re: Market-days? |
| From: |
eburhard@--------) |
| Date: |
Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:28:36 -0500 |
|
> My understanding is that a Nova Roma Market Day occurs every eighth day,
> reckoned from...the last Nova Roman Market Day.
>
> Usually I cheat and look at the bottom of the Nova Roma index page on the
> website (<a href="http://novaroma.org" target="_top" >http://novaroma.org</a>). If you look there, right now it says that
> the next MD was on 3.20.99 (not much of a market day, only a couple of us
> there, no more than two people in there at once if I correctly recall it) so
> there must have been one on 3.28.99, and the next one will be on...Monday,
> April 5th?
>
> My gensmate Fimbria explained it to me thusly: count nine forward from the
> last market day, including the day of the last market day. That's why it's
> called "nundina", "nine day". The inclusive counting makes it very
> confusing for me.
>
> Valete
>
> Gaius Marius Merullus
I did check the novaroma.org page, and the calendar was not helpful.
Perhaps the calendar could be updated, for us newbies who don't know the
calendar yet?
Gracia,
Catamus
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