Subject:	Re: Song - Roman Republican :)
From:	Pythia kingan@--------
Date:	Mon, 03 May 1999 23:11:24 -0700

Lets hear it Cassius and Patricia!! This is really great. Robert and I love it!
Make sure it gets into the next Eagle.

Pythia


>
>
> Roman Republican
> by Marcus Cassius Julianus
> and Patricia Cassia
>
> (sung to the much-abused tune of Gilbert & Sullivan's
> "I am the Very Model of a Modern Major General")
>
> I am the very model of a staunch Roman Republican
> I like to read from Cato because things were so much better then
> I uphold all the virtues, except when they're really bugging me
> I think I'm so superior with my Stoic philosophy
>
> My family is patrician, we're descended from a deity
> With pietas and dignitas, but never spontaneity
> We clap politely at the games when gladiators spear their foes
> And when we write a speech it always sounds like one of Cicero's
>
> My first wife I divorced because she wasn't rich enough for me
> My second ran away while I was on campaign in Sicily
> I cast my vote to help a friend and so I've just become engaged
> His lovely teenage daughter will become my wife when she's of age
>
> I've spent my whole life climbing up the Roman cursus honorum
> It's all to do with breeding, doesn't matter if your smart or dumb
> My slaves and clients tell me someday surely I'll be Rome's First Man
> or else I'll bribe the voters to make Consul as a backup plan
>
> I wear my Senate toga with my sandals and my ring of gold
> I don't think anyone should lead unless he's really, really old
> My head is filled with good advice from Stoic sages myriad
> Which makes up for my hair, which disappeared when I was just a lad
>
> I'm always at my happiest when all our legions are deployed
> "Because, O Conscript Fathers, it is Carthage that must be destroyed!"
> I'm a military genius when I'm speaking on the Senate floor
> I went out with the legions once, but they won't have me any more
>
> I built my family fortune up, tax-farming in the colonies
> I raided someone's temple for my statues and my courtyard frieze
> I taxed grain from the provinces and shipped it promptly back to Rome
> To serve bread to the Head Count, because everyone likes peace at home
>
> The food I eat is covered with a pungent salty fishy paste
> It keeps the meat good longer so it doesn't have to go to waste
> We haven't got tomatoes yet; it really makes me want to cry
> 'Cause there's nothing more Italian than a pepperoni pizza pie
>
> I offered sacrifice up to the great Triad Capitoline
> and tied a ribbon to my sheep to let the Gods know it was mine
> I also make devotions at my domicile's lararium
> Our household rites are all the same, we never like to vary 'em
>
> I keep my cellar stocked with casks of all the best Falernian wine
> It's just what they expect of you when you live on the Palatine
> When I leave town I'm glad to know that all the roads lead back to Rome
> That way I can get drunk and still be sure that I will make it home
>
> I'm very well acquainted with the Roman leaders various
> I'm pompouser than Pompey and I'm manlier than Marius
> I am the Perfect Roman, with the word, the thought, the deed, the look
> You can find out more about me in Colleen McCullough's next new book
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Subject:	Re: Song - Roman Republican :)
From:	jmath669642reng@--------)
Date:	Mon, 3 May 1999 08:30:39 -0400 (EDT)

What a neat set of lyrics for a most suitable tune. I have copied it,
and although I cannot promise to memorize (getting older you know) I
shall enjoy it hugely. Thanks for the creation and the sharing of it!!!

Marcus Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

Subject:	[Fwd: Mead Manual]
From:	Megas-Robinson amgunn@--------
Date:	Mon, 03 May 1999 08:08:08 -0500

Subject:	Re: Nova Roma Flyers
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Mon, 3 May 1999 09:43:38 EDT

In a message dated 5/1/99 3:08:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=114056113185089095081021203102129208071" >dean6886@--------</a> --------es:

<< Wouldn't all of you more or less agree??? >>

Not necessarily...since there is ongoing debate on what exactly is Nova
Roma's purposes that pops up every now and then (i.e. the emphasis on
religion or not) that to let individuals "make up" flyers would (in my eyes)
be dangerous.

There is supposed to be downloadable flyers on the website. I, myself,
re-designed a flyer last year that was approved by the Senate, but I never
saw it up on the web page. So I can't say for sure whether or not approved
flyers are available.

But I would venture to say that such should be the case and not made on an
individual basis.

--Dexippus
my 2 cents

Subject:	Re: Nova Roma Flyers
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Mon, 3 May 1999 09:49:22 EDT

In a message dated 5/1/99 12:49:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
<a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a> writ--------br>
<< Dexippus made up some flyers to hand out at a Festa Italiana. There was no
review of that flyer, there was much praise for Dexippus using his
initiative, and moxie. >>

Correction...the flyer I passed out at the Festa Italiana was downloaded
directly from the website. It was not altered in anyway by me. Therefore it
was a Senate approved Flyer.

--Dexippus

Subject:	Re: Song - Roman Republican :)
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Mon, 3 May 1999 09:57:00 EDT

In a message dated 5/2/99 9:41:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------; writes:

<< Roman Republican
by Marcus Cassius Julianus
and Patricia Cassia

(sung to the much-abused tune of Gilbert & Sullivan's
"I am the Very Model of a Modern Major General") >>


Fantastic! Fabulous! Bravo! Bravissimo!

I don't know the tune, so I had to read it like a poem! But I love it!

--Dexippus

Subject:	Re: Nova Roma Flyers
From:	jmath669642reng@--------)
Date:	Mon, 3 May 1999 10:03:44 -0400 (EDT)

Salvete Gaius MariusMerrullus at alii

From: Gaius Marius Merrulus;

GMM-Shoud we contact Julianus to get copies?

MMA-I believe that was the intent that Julianus relayed to me when we
didscussed the matter.

GMM-Did the Senate or Consuls ever approve any of those flyers? Luci
Equiti, any senatores listening, do we need to get approval of a flyer
before making it into an ad to be printed somewhere, for instance a copy
of a ollege newspaper?

MMA-No one reviewed the flyers that I sent to the Praetor of California
for use in the Historical event there. I considered that part of my
task as a Quaestor, based upon responses to earlier requests about the
duties of that office.. I have sent a message of explanation and apology
to the Consul. As I read his words on the subject it is his desire to
have all such reviewed at the Consul level, at least, and I shall comply
with his desire.

Vale, Gaius Marius Merrullus;
Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

Subject:	Re: Song - Roman Republican :)
From:	Atalante pythie@--------
Date:	Mon, 03 May 1999 11:46:43 -0400

At 23:19 02/05/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a>
>
>>
>>From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------;
>>
>>Salvete Omnes,
>>
>>Patricia and I are just back from MithraCon II, and had a wonderful weekend
>>studying Mithraism and ancient subjects at the Yale University campus. Great
>>fun!
>>
>And obviously more than a few beers!
>
>Whose idea was it to rhyme "lararium" with "vary 'em"?
>
>Gods, that was funny! I hope it's going on the website, and I certainly hope
>to hear it sung in all its glory on
>Roman Days! Wonder if Placido Domingo is free that weekend?
>
>-- Flavia Claudia
>
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Subject:	What's up with the website?
From:	Dexippus@--------
Date:	Mon, 3 May 1999 12:55:27 EDT

Why is the homepage split screen? A user has to scroll sideways to read the
content.

--Dexippus

Subject:	Re: What's up with the website?
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Mon, 03 May 1999 16:56:28 -0700

> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------;
>
> Why is the homepage split screen? A user has to scroll sideways to read the
> content.
>
> --Dexippus
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I also do not like the split screen windows format.

--Ericius

Subject:	Re: What's up with the website?
From:	Cassius622@--------
Date:	Mon, 3 May 1999 21:41:01 EDT

In a message dated 5/3/99 7:54:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ericius
(<a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a>) writ--------br>
<<
I also do not like the split screen windows format.
>>

Nor do I. I've actually written to Gangalius about this, but unfortunately
did it from work where I didn't have much time. I insulted our new web
designer terribly, albeit by accident. (And then made things worse when he
replied to my short and ill-written note!) :(

Since he's probably not talking to me at this point, I would like to publicly
say that I love all the work he's done except dividing the website up into
"frames". (That's the split-screen format which makes a person scroll around
to read even basic info.) Gangalius has been great in volunteering to work on
the website at all, hopefully we can all show him support and, (unlike
myself!) keep unhelpful comments to a minimum as we express likes/dislikes
about the site.

Vale,

Marcus Cassius Julianus

Subject:	Re: Mead Manual
From:	Megas-Robinson amgunn@--------
Date:	Mon, 03 May 1999 20:41:17 -0500

Avete Omnes!

One thing I forgot to add. This Mead Manual is a project I am doing on my
own. It is not an official publication of Nova Roma. I am, basically
giving one of the first One Hundred copies to those who will give a $5.00
donation to Nova Roma. I am asking for $3.00 shipping and handling because
the manual started out as a trifold booklet and I cannot afford to absorb
the entire cost at this time.

Mille Gratias et Valete - Venator

Piparskegg - Venator wrote:
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>
> The mead Manual --------eady to go! E-ma--------e at <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232178182078116015056190036129" >amgunn@--------</a> for
> instructions on ordering. The cost will be a US$5.00 check made out to Nova
> Roma and a US$3.00 check made out to Steve Robinson (that's me) for the
> shipping and handling for U.S. and Canada. Those Cives outside of these two
> countries, we'll see what we can work out. Perhaps a copy on 3.5" floppy
> disc.
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Subject:	Re: Peter Connolly postcards
From:	Cassius622@--------
Date:	Mon, 3 May 1999 21:50:02 EDT

In a message dated 4/30/99 5:31:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Lucius Equetius
Cincinnatus (<a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a>) writ--------br>
Cincinnatus:
> Yes, Peter Connolly's works are great! I'm getting in line for mine now! I
already own every book of his I can get my hands on.
How about it Censores, send him an invitation to join the Macellum, As Soon
As Possible?!
Plus, I would vote to use treasury funds to buy them for resale via the
Macellum or at events like Roman Days.

Cassius:
I'm just coming into this thread after being at MithraCon for the weekend.
This all sounds great, but I'm not really familiar with Peter Connolly, and
*certainly* have no clue how to contact him. If anyone out there knows an
Email address or a website where us Censors can see his work, either Decius
Iunius Palladius or myself will contact him right away!

Vale,

Marcus Cassius Julianus
Censor

Subject:	Re: What's up with the website?
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Mon, 03 May 1999 19:11:03 -0700

<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------; wrote:

> Gangalius has been great in volunteering to work on
> the website at all, hopefully we can all show him support and, (unlike
> myself!) keep unhelpful comments to a minimum as we express likes/dislikes
> about the site.
>

Ave, Martianus!

Your work is great!

Perhaps we are feeling the effects of the close approach of the War God! Please keep in
mind that you are appreciated.

Mars and Minerva bestow their blessing son you and yours.

Vale.

C. Aelius Ericius.
Paterfamilias gens Aelia.

Subject:	Re: What's up with the website?
From:	Megas-Robinson amgunn@--------
Date:	Mon, 03 May 1999 21:42:40 -0500

Avete Omnes!

If I may. I called up the NR site and cruised through about a third of it
by using the links in the master index. The only horizontal scrolls I saw
were graphics which have had there utility greatly diminished by sizing to
the frame. Otherwise, the text seems to fit the frame nicely. I think we
should give the new look a go for awhile.

mea sententia - Venator

Subject:	Re: Mead Manual
From:	Megas-Robinson amgunn@--------
Date:	Mon, 03 May 1999 21:47:20 -0500

Avete,

Something else I forgot. 24 recipes, brewing background, equipment &
procedures information, references, 20 good pages of content, plus a little
window dressing.

Valete - Venator

Subject:	Re: What's up with the website?
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Mon, 03 May 1999 20:40:50 -0700

I'm not anything like an expert in this filed. More like a barbariculus. But I believe
the thing comes down to -- different computers, different settings, different views. My
puter is barely a year old and the right hand frame is cut by the margin and sometimes the
text is under the pix. There is also the personal preference. When ever I have a choice
of frames/no frames I opt for the later. I also don't care that much for books with fold
out pages unless it is absolutely necessary, like a panoramic photo of the Forum Romanum.
so... there's another two coppers.

Ericius

Subject:	[Fwd: Ancient History Newsletter]
From:	Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@--------
Date:	Mon, 03 May 1999 22:05:03 -0700

Salve, not much Roman things...but it still might be of interest!

L.Cornelius Sulla
Praetor Urbanus

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