| Subject: |
Fw: Lex Ludorum Romanorum |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Fri, 21 May 1999 11:19:35 +0100 |
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Salvete omnes
I'd like to inform the people of Rome about the following. I'd like to thank
once again Quintus Fabius Maximus for the interesting discussion and
sugestions that led to this proposal.
Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Aedilis Plebis
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Grilo <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a>
To: <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=061056234237175198015158190036129" >se--------@--------</a> <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=061056234237175198015158190036129" >se--------@--------</a>
Date: Friday, May 21, 1999 11:17 AM
Subject: Lex Ludorum Romanorum
>Salvete dignissimi senatores
>
>I come by this means to propose a law to regulate betting on the Roman
>Games. This proposal is still incomplete and must be discussed, extended,
>and eventually changed according with the view of the Senate and
>Magistrates.
>
>1) Roman Games must be announced, at least three days before the event.
>
>2) Citizens who want to bet shall send an email to the both Aediles Plebis
>or a designated Questor with the following data:
>- Roman Name
>- Email address
>- Warrior or chariot racer in which he/she wants to bet.
>- Ammount of bet (maximum $5)
>
>3) The Aediles shall send the list of betting citizens to the Censors, and
>the latter shall check wether each Email address corresponds in fact to the
>respective citizen. Answer shall be given within 10 days. Citizens are
>responsible for informing the Censors of email address updates.
>
>4) Valid bets shall be added and the resulting total shall be divided by
the
>winning citizens.
>
>5) Invalid bets shall be discarded. A citizen cannot win or loose if
his/her
>bet is invalid.
>
>6) The Aediles shall keep a record of citizen bets until the end of the
>civil year. The ammounts shall be then turned into real money in the
>following way:
>- If the accumulated bet results of a citizen is positive, Nova Roma shall
>pay him the correspondent ammount of money within 3 months.
>- If the accumulated bet results of a citizen is negative, the citizen must
>pay the respective ammount of money to Nova Roma within 3 months.
>
>7) Failure to pay owed ammounts of money shall give way to a judicial
>process, which shall follow the normal ways defined in the Constitution. A
>process can be held both by the state against a citizen of by the citizen
>against the state.
>
>Valete
>
>Antonius Gryllus Graecus
>Aedilis Plebis
>
>
>
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| Subject: |
Fwd: poll to ban Wicca on military bases |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 21 May 1999 11:56:04 EDT |
|
Ok everyone...it's a short cry before they start laying down laws against all
Pagans...so step up to the url and vote NO!
--Dexippus
In a message dated 5/21/99 11:27:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=200028091056078198169061186140081090177098100046209130" >k--------eariadne@--------</a> writes:
<< > >
> >As you may or may not know,
> ><a href="http://home.digitalcity.com/houston/national_hotissue/main.dci" target="_top" >http://home.digitalcity.com/houston/national_hotissue/main.dci</a>
> > has a poll about whether Military Wiccans should be allowed to practice
> >their faith- a moot point, because I know at least one Air Force Wiccan
> >who is Brass and would hit CNN before one Wiccan had been glared at if
> >they tried it.
> >
> >However, a fundie christian mailing list has requested that its members
> >go and post yes on this mailing list, skewing the view.
> >
> >So, if you have a few minutes, skew back.
> >
> >Thanks a lot, >>
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| Subject: |
I'm back! |
| From: |
"Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia" a_i_c_nocturnia@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 21 May 1999 10:58:24 PDT |
|
Salvete omnes!
I have returned from Crete, it was lovely and hot :)
I have a few pictures of Knossos, so if anyone is interested please email
me!
Noct'a
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| Subject: |
Cleopatra. A review |
| From: |
SFP55@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 21 May 1999 14:38:41 EDT |
|
Salvete!
I thought you citizens would all be interested in my review of
"Cleopatra" which airs this weekend.
"Cleopatra" the mini-series, reflects the life of the
Macedonian/Ptolmeic princess that became Queen of Egypt when she
was 20, that is, there are some good moments and some that are
bad.
Like the predecessors, this lavish 30 mill production, resonates
with the times, in this one Cleopatra is a "new age" women,
trying to make her way in the world of men. French/Chilean
actress Lenor Varela, (Man in the Iron Mask) turns in a sold
performance, using all her feminine wiles to charm two of Rome's
greatest rogues. That she conveys this seductiveness without
showing acres of flesh, is a real pleasure to watch. "I wanted
to show the process of this woman to go from a 20 year old
virgin, ruler and mother. She has values to her vision of
life...and I wanted to let her have her little failures,
humanity..."
Her greatest ally, Julius Caesar, is Bond, James Bond, sorry,
Timothy Dalton. Dalton has flashes of brilliance but I found his
character appearance with his full head of hair, distracting.
With today's make up abilities he could have easily be half bald
and still demonstrate the power of will and charisma that was
Caesar. He calls Caesar a remarkable man.
"That being said I think he was a great figure in history, but
not a good man. You have to admire from a distance his ambition
and tenacity, ruthlessness, political skill to achieve it."
Dalton's best scene is when he confronts the Sphinx and declares
that he will not be remembered as someone who simply built
monuments of crumbling stone.
Billy Zane (Titanic) does Marcus Antonius as a politician
dedicated to Rome, that eventually loses himself and his
political power to the passion for Cleopatra. Their muted love
scenes work well, which is no surprise, since they have been
romantically linked since the production began. "I felt sorry
for him, seduced by her exquisite character, he doesn't have
Caesar's strength, and succumbs. But dying for love, is all you
could really ask for in dramatic part."
Director Franc Roddam (Quadrophenia, Moby Dick) made the movie
with a corporate vision " While it should be epic people expect
that, it should be intimate as well so people can relate to it.
I see a woman trying to hang onto power and control that men are
trying to take away. It like being a female CEO of a
corporation. She knows she has to deal with the world of men and
work her way through it."
The production was filmed on location in Morocco and in "Roman
town" at Shepperton Studios, England. The project used 1,000
extras, 600 horses, 2,000 costumes, 1,500 pieces of jewelry, 300
wigs and portion of a rebuilt Alexandria covering over a 1/4 of
mile in the moroccan desert.
The production has it's little faults. With a screenplay written
by Stephen Herrigan and Anton Diether, based on Margaret George's
novel "The Memoirs of Cleopatra" history is altered considerably.
Gone is the Roman Civil War between Pompey and Caesar, Caesar
comes to Egypt to take it over as part of his manifest destiny (I
came, I saw, I conquered is mentioned more then once). The
battles are pure Hollywood, the legions are incorrectly equipped,
and the great man rides a chariot into battle!
Octavius Caesar plays the heavy. He comes across as a cold
asexual almost effeminate corporate raider that defeats the two,
who deserve it because they are too busy pleasuring one another,
rather then overseeing the business. A sad statement for the
visionary who reformed Rome and insured its greatness. And of
course Cleopatra is constantly in Egyptian dress, even though she
would only wear the robes of state at functions that would
include the local population.
The high points include the famous rug scene, (which is probably
a myth but it had to be included), Caesar's triumphantly entry
into Alexandria after defeating Ptolemy the ninth, the great
looking Roman sets, especially the Forum which is nicely done.
The battle of Actium is a computer generated masterpiece and
finally the "feel" of the whole thing, Dalton's inspired
performance next to Varela's iron one really brings events from
2,080 years ago into our living room. That they are inaccurate
events, shouldn't subtract from their power and they do not.
Steve Phenow
@ 1999 Filmfax Inc.
Valete!
Q. Fabius
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| Subject: |
Varius defeat site discovered! |
| From: |
SFP55@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 21 May 1999 17:43:03 EDT |
|
Salvete!
For those interested, the Germans believe they have found the site of the
Battle of Tetuobarger Wald. Maps and other info can be found on a German site
at: <a href="http://www.geschichte.uni-osnabrueck.de/projekt/frame1.htm" target="_top" >http://www.geschichte.uni-osnabrueck.de/projekt/frame1.htm</a>
For those who don't know, this was the worst defeat suffered by the Romans
under Augustus. Three Legiones, the 17 18 19, and their aux. were destroyed
in a three day running battle by a German confederation in a German forest
near the Weser River.
This defeat shaped Roman policy towards Germania for the rest of the Imperial
existence.
Valete!
Q. Fabius.
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| Subject: |
Re: I'm back! |
| From: |
Razenna razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 21 May 1999 18:46:19 -0700 |
|
Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia wrote:
> From: "Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=243089020012185237172149141056243012000102196196128130152150" >a_i_c_nocturnia@--------</a>
>
> Salvete omnes!
>
> I have returned from Crete, it was lovely and hot :)
>
> I have a few pictures of Knossos, so if anyone is interested please email
> me!
>
> Noct'a
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> What do lizards and rock music have in common?
> <a href="http://www.onelist.com" target="_top" >http://www.onelist.com</a>
> They both have communities at ONElist. Find yours today!
WANNA SEE PIX
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| Subject: |
Re: Fw: Lex Ludorum Romanorum |
| From: |
Razenna razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 21 May 1999 18:49:13 -0700 |
|
I don't have to be a lawyer, or even a would be lawyer, to tell you this betting is in
violation to a number of regional laws in the United States.
C. Aelius Ericius
Propraetor ad Californiam Provinciam
Pontiff
Paterfamilias of gens Aelia
Antonio Grilo wrote:
> From: "Antonio Grilo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a>
>
> Salvete omnes
>
> I'd like to inform the people of Rome about the following. I'd like to thank
> once again Quintus Fabius Maximus for the interesting discussion and
> sugestions that led to this proposal.
>
> Valete
>
> Antonius Gryllus Graecus
> Aedilis Plebis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio Grilo <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a>
> To: <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=061056234237175198015158190036129" >se--------@--------</a> <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=061056234237175198015158190036129" >se--------@--------</a>
> Date: Friday, May 21, 1999 11:17 AM
> Subject: Lex Ludorum Romanorum
>
> >Salvete dignissimi senatores
> >
> >I come by this means to propose a law to regulate betting on the Roman
> >Games. This proposal is still incomplete and must be discussed, extended,
> >and eventually changed according with the view of the Senate and
> >Magistrates.
> >
> >1) Roman Games must be announced, at least three days before the event.
> >
> >2) Citizens who want to bet shall send an email to the both Aediles Plebis
> >or a designated Questor with the following data:
> >- Roman Name
> >- Email address
> >- Warrior or chariot racer in which he/she wants to bet.
> >- Ammount of bet (maximum $5)
> >
> >3) The Aediles shall send the list of betting citizens to the Censors, and
> >the latter shall check wether each Email address corresponds in fact to the
> >respective citizen. Answer shall be given within 10 days. Citizens are
> >responsible for informing the Censors of email address updates.
> >
> >4) Valid bets shall be added and the resulting total shall be divided by
> the
> >winning citizens.
> >
> >5) Invalid bets shall be discarded. A citizen cannot win or loose if
> his/her
> >bet is invalid.
> >
> >6) The Aediles shall keep a record of citizen bets until the end of the
> >civil year. The ammounts shall be then turned into real money in the
> >following way:
> >- If the accumulated bet results of a citizen is positive, Nova Roma shall
> >pay him the correspondent ammount of money within 3 months.
> >- If the accumulated bet results of a citizen is negative, the citizen must
> >pay the respective ammount of money to Nova Roma within 3 months.
> >
> >7) Failure to pay owed ammounts of money shall give way to a judicial
> >process, which shall follow the normal ways defined in the Constitution. A
> >process can be held both by the state against a citizen of by the citizen
> >against the state.
> >
> >Valete
> >
> >Antonius Gryllus Graecus
> >Aedilis Plebis
> >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Are you hogging all the fun?
> <a href="http://www.onelist.com" target="_top" >http://www.onelist.com</a>
> Friends tell friends about ONElist!
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| Subject: |
Re: Repro Kuncklebone source |
| From: |
Razenna razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 21 May 1999 18:56:53 -0700 |
|
Salvete.
I have to interject this. I should write that article I keep thinking about, but I just
gotta chime in with a bit of light...
The ancients used dice. Yeah. They used knucklebones too, but dice existed and were
used. When they spoke of dice, they meant Dice. Dice, exactly the same design as we have
now, have been found in Etruscan tombs. Dice can be fancy and expensive, they can be
clunky and cheap. They can be made out of carnelian or out of old bone. I bet there were
wide selections of dice for sale outside the army camps, it'd be a way for the locals to
separate the Petulants (Late Latin for Grunts) from their pay. Selling the dice and using
them. Et ceterae.
C. Aelius Ericius
Propraetor Of California Provincia
Pontiff
Paterfamilias gens Aelia
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| Subject: |
Re: Fwd: poll to ban Wicca on military bases |
| From: |
Razenna razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 21 May 1999 19:21:49 -0700 |
|
Of course this is not a Roman topic, but...
The United States military already recognizes Wicca as a religion and has guidelines for
Wiccan chaplains.
<a href="http://www.angelfire.com/md/wiccanflame/chaplin.html" target="_top" >http://www.angelfire.com/md/wiccanflame/chaplin.html</a>
I first found this site when ai was doing research about what getting the Religio
recognized as a "legitimate" religion might entail. It turned out the First Amendment to
the Constitution of the Untied States covered it.
C. Aelius Ericius
Propraetor of California Provincia
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| Subject: |
[Fwd: Late Roman Belts] |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 21 May 1999 22:14:05 -0500 |
|
hailsa Allir!
Perhaps someone on this list can help this person.
(From soc.history.living)
Tchuss - Venator
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| Subject: |
Poll on Houston news site |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 21 May 1999 23:15:35 -0500 |
|
Hailsa Allir!
The results, as of 11:03 CST, on the question -
"Should the military outlaw witches?"
1440 votes cast
156 yes
1172 no
12 undecided
I would tend to doubt that's all Pagans and Heathens responding. This is
perhaps a sign of some sense of justice and right in our host community?
(At least I think this from of the comments on the commentary board.)
Frith - Piparskegg
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