Subject: Re: My Replies
From: Pythia kingan@--------
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 18:02:11 -0700
To be fair to Renato, I think his idea was more conventional, rather than
bizarre. Bearing in mind that English is not his first language, I understood
him to mean that people shouldn't upset the status quo. Italians are Catholics,
Swedes are Lutherin.....and so on. I don't particularly agree with him, nor do
most of the people on the list. I think he sounds like someone who has never
considered that there might be an alternative path. I would also add that your
situation is uniquely American, and many Europeans find this strange.


Pythia

Tinnekke Bebout wrote:

> From: "Tinnekke Bebout" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=189176234185056182213038203004129208071" >tinnekke@--------</a>
>
> Salvete Omnes
> As to Renato's bizarre idea that we should worship based on
> ancestry...asnwer me this, Renato, what should I be...I'm Polish, Mongolian,
> Abnaki, Cherokee, Irish, Pict, and Belgian.
> Valete
>
> Lucina Iunia Cypria
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Subject: Re: My Replies
From: Renato renato@--------
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 00:11:18 +0200
At 14.45 01/06/99 -0700, you wrote:
>From: "Tinnekke Bebout" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=189176234185056182213038203004129208071" >tinnekke@--------</a>
>
>Salvete Omnes
>As to Renato's bizarre idea that we should worship based on
>ancestry...asnwer me this, Renato, what should I be...I'm Polish, Mongolian,
>Abnaki, Cherokee, Irish, Pict, and Belgian.

No, you are American.

Ciao
Renato




Subject: Fw: ARCHPORT: Re: assemblage: Call For Papers
From: "Antonio Grilo" amg@--------
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:06:44 +0100

-----Original Message-----
From: Lucia Afonso <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=034075014237152132015199190036129" >lumapi@--------</a>
To: <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243212219122152190218057203043129208071" >ar--------rt@--------</a> <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243212219122152190218057203043129208071" >ar--------rt@--------</a>
Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 11:13 PM
Subject: ARCHPORT: Re: assemblage: Call For Papers


>
>
>>From: "a--------blage" <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=100059066056038202138098148077114088071048139" >A--------blage@--------</a>
>>Reply-To: <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=243059066056038202138098148077114088071048139" >a--------blage@--------</a>
>>To: "Journal--------ibrarie--------omepage--------lt;a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=243059066056038202138098148077114088071048139" >a--------blage@--------</a>,
>>"Mailba--------<a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=243059066056038202138098148077114088071048139" >a--------blage@--------</a>, "Staff"
>><a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=243059066056038202138098148077114088071048139" >a--------blage@--------</a>, <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=051242221007018154090098141067114088071048139" >K.Gold--------@--------</a>
>>Subject: assemblage: Call For Papers
>>Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:35:48 +0100
>>
>>Dear Colleague
>> CALL FOR PAPERS
>>
>>*assemblage* is an on-line, peer reviewed archaeological journal
>>produced by the graduate students of archaeology and archaeological
>>science at the University of Sheffield, England. *assemblage* covers
>>diverse topics and issues in archaeology. Past issues can be found
>>on the World-Wide Web at
>><<a href="http://www/shef/ac/uk/assem/3/3comment.html" target="_top" >http://www/shef/ac/uk/assem/3/3comment.html</a>.> Issue 4 is currently
>>on the Web at <<a href="http://www.shef.ac.uk/~assem" target="_top" >http://www.shef.ac.uk/~assem</a>.> We have received
>>popular and critical acclaim for past issues and have a USCB "Hot
>>Site" and the InterNIC Academic Guide "Featured Site" awards.
>>
>>We are seeking submissions from archaeology postgraduate students and
>>professionals for Issue 5 for the following sections:
>>
>>*Research Papers: 3000 - 5000 words defending a thesis; original
>>works, versions of conference papers or parts of forthcoming books or
>>dissertations
>>
>>*Features: 2000 - 3000 words, methodological and theoretical essays,
>>critical commentary, investigative journalism
>>
>>*Forum: For Issue 5 we propose a theme of "Archaeology and
>>Ethnicity", this could include material culture and ethnicity, the
>>past as a political tool, archaeology's role in the formation of
>>nation states - hopefully forming an on-line debate
>>
>>*State of the Arch.: Short pieces less than 2000 words describing
>>advances in investigation, research and presentation technologies
>>
>>*Field Notes: Favourite sites, thoughts from field archaeology,
>>short articles or diary snippets
>>
>>*Reviews: Book, television, conference, CD-ROMM reviews needed
>>
>>*Fun Pages: Jokes (relevant to archaeology; fresh ones please),
>>anecdotes, acrostics, crosswords, cartoons
>>
>>*Info Section: Brief entries for conferences, seminars, lectures
>>
>>Bookmark *assemblage* now at <<a href="http://www.shef.ac.uk/~assem" target="_top" >http://www.shef.ac.uk/~assem</a>
>>We hope to hear from you soon. For Issue 5 the submission deadlines
>>are: Forum, Research Papers and Features: 30 JULY 1999; for all
>>other submissions 27 AUGUST 1999.
>>
>>*assemblage* Issue 5 will be on-line by the end of NOVEMBER 1999. We
>>look forward to receiving your contribution, which can be sent
>>to us by email.
>>
>>
>>Best wishes
>>
>>The Assemblage 5 Team
>>
>>Katy Chance
>>Caroline Hamilton
>>Alison Hynd
>>Andy Wigley
>>
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Subject: Re: Roman Personals Ad From Helena Equitia
From: missmoon@--------
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 04:48:15 -0500 (CDT)
On 06/01/99 23:12:01 you wrote:
>
>From: "Greta Goring" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=123212192165158072112061186101192165094048139046" >gretagoring@--------</a>
>
>Salvete,
>
>I am a new citizen of Nova Roma in the gens Equitia.
>I am a 27 year old Single White Roman Woman
>living in California.
>I am a struggling writer/"artiste".
>I've been called "the most beautiful woman"
>that people have ever seen.

Now that's what I call a woman with CONFIDENCE!
You go, girl, and good hunting.

-- Flavia Claudia







Subject: Re: My Replies
From: dean6886@--------)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 07:16:38 -0500 (CDT)

Some would disagree, but when we talk about being American, I
believe the term has changed substantially over the last 40 or so years.
Often, instead of continuing to be a melting pot of world peoples, it
has become in varying degrees fragmented into groups of special
interests ( among others being ethnicities, groups, and even religious
entities, etc.) with little interest in assimilating into a general
American culture, while trying to gain maximum funding and political
influence federally or more locally. I'm not saying that America is not
a melting pot entirely, but more to the point that I believe that it has
become more of a me and mine society with only monetary prosperity
linking diverse peoples together in relative harmony.

Well, also true is that many people in the United States are of
mixed national heritage--- as in German-Italian or Greek-Russian-Chinese
or what have you. Many people here might find some attraction within
Nova Roma as being the base of a general Western culture they wish to
have a real connection to while others here with some Italian relation
might be more attracted to Nova Roma as a seeming connection with
ancestral heritage, or those attracted by the universalism of the
Religio.

Nothing being written in stone, I just feel that there are some
signs of a trend away from the traditional image of America and that
some may be seeking to be more in touch with their roots. Just my
opinion and thought for today--- yeah I know it's a little cynical in a
way but...

Gaius Drusus Domitianus.






Subject: Roman?/American?/Huh?
From: "Don and Crys Meaker" mater@--------
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:14:06 -0500
Salvete,

If I could find my 'Roots' maybe I could follow them somehow. My
family tree goes back to my great, great grandmother. Then all
seems lost. The family gene pool has always had a wide variety in
it, for which I have always been proud. I know not everyone feels
that way, which explains the looks Don and I get when we are out
with Terry and Lapis. Oh well!

I was always told that we are all Roman. I do not consider myself
Roman because I think it is the center of the universe, or because I
can trace my family all the way back to whoever. I believe what I
feel and that means the Roman gods and the Roman virtues and
the Roman way of life.

Done bitching --

Crys


Maius Cornelius Mamertinus and Amethystia Iunia Crystallina

Roman, let this be your care, your art: To beat down the proud, and teach the ways of peace.
Virgil

ICQ# 38493770



Subject: Re: Roman Personals Ad From Helena Equitia
From: Dexippus@--------
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:28:15 EDT
Sweetie...I'll fight you tooth and nail for that man!

Stand back girl! Get your stilleto heels ready, 'cause Dexie's on the prowl
too!

--Dexippus
Divus Maximus Extremus

In a message dated 6/2/99 2:12:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
<a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=123212192165158072112061186101192165094048139046" >gretagoring@--------</a> writes:

<< Salvete,

I am a new citizen of Nova Roma in the gens Equitia.
I am a 27 year old Single White Roman Woman
living in California.
I am a struggling writer/"artiste".
I've been called "the most beautiful woman"
that people have ever seen.

I am still looking for that Single White Roman Man
to be my husband (& someday a father of Roman children).
I need a man who is Roman through and through,
who is devoted to both the Old Rome and the New Rome,
who loves the Gods, and who lives the Roman Virtues.

Travel/relocation not a problem at all!

If you want to get to know me, e-mail me at:
<a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=123212192165158072112061186101192165094048139046" >gretagoring@--------</a>

Valete, Helena Equitia Ovidia
>>



Subject: Vestals
From: missmoon@--------
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:48:30 -0500 (CDT)
On 05/31/99 08:47:50 you wrote:
>
>From: "Tinnekke Bebout" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=189176234185056182213038203004129208071" >tinnekke@--------</a>
>
>Salvete Omnes
>It's a sad thing that we don't have a Virgo Maxima. I did volunteer for the
>position. I haven't heard back yet about it, so I self-dedicated to Vesta
>without the title and have been tending a temple to Her every night. I
>created the temple myself in my home. If the Pontifex et al decide to make
>me Virgo Maxima I will be honored, if they choose not to, I will still serve
>Vesta on my own and ask Her benedictions on Nova Roma.
>
>Valete
>
>Lucina Iunia Cypria


You did indeed hear back (from me at least, during my year as a Vestal) about the Vestal Virgins. Since
you are living with someone and don't want to observe the rule of celibacy, I don't see how you could
enter the Vestal Order under the present charter.

As for the Pontifex Maximus making you Virgo Maxima, I'm not sure how that can happen until the
celibacy requirement is changed -- if it ever is.

Nothing stops you from dedicating your service to Vesta or holding your own rituals, which we will all
appreciate. But observing the Rituals on behalf of the State in an official capacity is something you cannot
do.

What is needed is obviously a change in the charter of the Vestal Order, since we weren't exactly overrun
with volunteers. Failing that, we need a Society of Vesta or a Sisterhood of Vesta to accomodate the
faithful of Vesta, such as Iunia, who wish to honor Vesta but who simply cannot adhere to the rule of
celibacy. It would be nice if someone -- other than me -- were to propose such a society and send the
proposal to the College of Pontifices.

-- Flavia Claudia








Subject: Re: My Replies
From: Renato renato@--------
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 20:38:53 +0200
At 18.45 01/06/99 -0700, you wrote:

>so if possible, let us leave this behind us and not make this meaningless
>argument the defining argument of our newly reformed people...if we choose to
>call ourselves (nova) romans, or hellenists, or wide eyed monkey people it
>matters very little....

I agree, I will never join Novaroma, but from now on I will keep on lurking
this list and if some interesting thread comes (in History for example) I
might give my point of view but I will no longer interfere in your
religious matters.

Ciao
Renato



Subject: Help Wanted
From: Gail and Thomas Gangale gangale@--------
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:25:51 -0700 (PDT)
Salvete.

WANTED: HTML Coders! Webpage Designers! A lot of work on the Nova Roma
website is being deferred because the web team is critically understaffed.
You can make your mark! Join the team! Send inquiries to
<a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=125056250213158233050038109248006208071048" >webmaster@--------</a>.

Valete,
Marcus Martianus Gangalius
Aedilis Curule et Vebsitarius Maximus
-------------
Tom and Gail Gangale
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=123166234108158153184218249036129208" >gangale@--------</a>
<a href="http://www.jps.net/gangale/homepage.htm" target="_top" >http://www.jps.net/gangale/homepage.htm</a>
Mars Society California
The Martian Time Web Site
The Martian Ministry of Culture
Nova Roma
World GenWeb Calabria
Bunny Hill (and Catsville Too)
The National Primary System
The Art of Darius




Subject: Re: Bridging the Danube
From: jmath669642reng@--------)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:30:51 -0400 (EDT)
I wish to thank you for your most kind words. Actually it is Hadji that
deserves most of the credit for this series of discussions as he is the
"in country" expert. He is interested in Nova Roma, and in the Roman
History of his country. Those two things alone, make him an extremely
valuable member of Nova Roma, not to mention the fact that he has
supported my few offerings with excellent and detailed information.

Yes, others have mentioned my telling stories by writing a book, but
somehow, when I write a stry it is never quite as good as when I tell a
story, and I am reluctant to do second-best. Perhaps someday I will
have a chance to tell stories to an audience where they can be recorded,
and thereby perhaps get a clue to the mystery that makes writing a story
different from telling one.

Thank you again for your most kind words;

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!




Subject: Re: My Replies
From: hadji <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=180166080058082135090082190036" >hadji@--------</a>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:44:27 +0200
Salve Cypria

I am sorry for boring with my nose in your family history.
Everything you wrote about was very interesting and I thank you.
But please, foregive me that I would like to ask you one more question:
In what a language was written you family history and original notes
about your middle ages relatives? Do you speak Polish? I am asking,
because I wonder if we could understand each other if you will write in
Polish and me in Slovakian language.

Vale

Alexander I.C.P.M.