| Subject: |
Re: Parthenon |
| From: |
Pythia kingan@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 09:27:00 -0700 |
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>
>
> A Greek could be very proud of the ancient and hellinistic heritage and
> at the same time to be a good christian. These two things are suitable
> to each other.
I know a number of Hellenes who would disagree with you about that.
> There are a lots of Aristoteles, Agamemnones, Alexanderes
> etc. and all these people were named over the ancient not christian
> people, only because of the historical reminiscences.
Ok, fine, but in the 19th C. the church very much disapproved of people
using the ancient names. People went ahead and used the great old names in
spite of the church, as a sign of their support for the Independance
Movement. The church, incidentally, supported the Sultan.
>
>
> Do you remember how in the 19 cent. the unique artifacts of ancient art
> were kept by christians greek priests, because foreign "Indians
> Jones-es" were looking for this artefacts (The statue of Venera from the
> Milos". Why all these statues are now in Paris, London, Washington etc,
> but not in Athens or Thesaloniki?
LOL...you don't think the "priests" had a little business going with the
"Indiana Jones" types? Never the less,I agree most of these great artifacts
belong back home.
Best, Pythia
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| Subject: |
Re: Religio Romana |
| From: |
Pythia kingan@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 17:43:08 -0700 |
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>
>
> I'm really hoping this is the LAST message we hear from you on this subject. (Yeah, right.) It's obvious that
> you have a problem with paganism and Nova Roma, but it's YOUR problem, not ours. We are what we
> are, and we've been that way since the inception of Nova Roma.
>
> -- Flavia Claudia
>
Thank-you Claudia. Short and to the point! (And much more diplomatic than I would have been!;-)
Pythia
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| Subject: |
Re: Vestals |
| From: |
Pythia <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=200176234108158116015132190036129" >kingan@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 22:57:29 -0700 |
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>
> > >If anything, since my dedication to Vesta, I have been even more
> >energized
> > >in certain ways. If She wants me to be celibate, she could diminish any
> > >desire I have not to be.
> >
> >Well, that would hardly make it a sacrifice, would it?
> Who says it is a sacrifice She wants? Since I self-dedicated, I have asked
> Her time and again what she wants from me as part of Her service...that' why
> I made the comment about it... if She wanted me to be celibate She could
> easily make it known to me by diminishing my drive, even for a day or so
> just to get the message across... hasn't happened... I've scryed...I've
> asked others to scry...no one is getting that answer...
Maybe it's not Vesta you are hearing from.
Pythia
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| Subject: |
Re: Citizenship! YES |
| From: |
Pythia kingan@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 23:26:53 -0700 |
|
Congratulations! and welcome
Flavia Gladia Xrysanthi (Pythia)
william wheeler wrote:
> From: w--------am wheeler <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=125075047121158135036082190036" >wuffa@--------</a>
>
> Salve Romei
> Marcus Cornelius Felix sends Greeting to all in Nova Roma
> I am now a Citizen
>
> My heart thank you to Marcus Cassius Julianus
> Senator, Censor, Proconsul, Pontifex Maximus
>
> Vale
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| Subject: |
whose is this? |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 02:55:51 -0500 (CDT) |
|
Whoever sent the beautiful poem for the Eagle, please let me know who you are. I lost it, then found it
again, but with no author's name. I want to use it in the next issue. Thanks! -- Flavia Claudia
Harvest of Sorrow
Mother of corn, barely, and wheat
We humble ourselves before your seat
Oh Goddess of Earth's life-giving grain
Spare us the coming winter's pain
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| Subject: |
Re: virus & density |
| From: |
Megas-Rob--------n <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232178182078116015056190036129" >amgunn@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 07:06:39 -0700 |
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Hailsa et Ave Flavia Claudia!
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a> wrote:
>
> Hey, at least your intentions were good, and you were trying to help everyone out.
> Don't apologize for that!
>
> -- Flavia Claudia
>
Well, as I said "better armed for" future discretion.
I am working on a couple of articles for the Eagle, will send by Monday or
Tuesday.
Vale and Fare Well - Venator Duospiritus
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| Subject: |
De Publica Pudicitia |
| From: |
"Martins-Esteves" esteves@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:43:43 -0300 |
|
Ave Helena Equitia
Avete Quirites
Ab Helena Equitia <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=123212192165158072112061186101192165094048139046" >gretagoring@--------</a>
>
>I will NOT carry on a relationship
>via the Nova Roma e-mail list.
>
>Valete, Helena Equitia
Primo. Considering the recent poverty of interesting themes in this
list, it would be most interesting to watch the public development of a
relationship (involving or not sex) between Helena and Gn. Marius.
Secundo. If I were Gnaeus Marius I would have responded the add
Helenae privately, but I don't bother about his attittude. Minime! If
one wants to "publicize" this list and forbid the private messages, that
must be made thoroughly. That is to say, there are several private messages
in this list, some of them cute, some funny, some agressive. So it is
hipocrisy to criticize a message one doesn´t like just because it is
supposed to
be private, and to tolerate (or even suport) others just because they are
polite or amusing.
And, in tempo, what is private? I am sure some citizens would
be ready to give an easy and definitive definition (sorry for the
etymologic redundance!) of privacy. However it would be simply their
definition, or at least, the one that represents their common background. I
admit I shall be somewhat dense (thank you, Inominate, for teaching me this
new english word), but I always hesitate to qualify a letter in publica or
privata.
Tertio. Am I right to glimpse a spur of puritanism in the subject?
Someone even said something about Pudicitia. Well, there is nothing wrong
about claiming for noble and austere Pudicitia, but she is not an absolute
value. There must be place here for the débauche too. If there are Catones
here, let there also be Petronii.
Quarto. (Personal and public observation) Of course I understand, dear
Flavia Claudia, that is part of your duties controlling the excesses in this
list. None of the considerations above were meant to be disrespectful
towards your magistracy.
Valete
Titus Horatius Atticus
humanus sum nihil humani a me alienum puto
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| Subject: |
The After Life |
| From: |
"Publius Phillipus Varrus" legate@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:04:23 -0400 |
|
Having only the vaguest notions about the Roman Religio and wishing to know
more I ask the following:
What is the Roman concept of the after life? Does the soul live on? Do
'good' people go someplace different from 'bad' people ? Are we judged by
the Gods? Re-incarnated etc. etc. ?
Publius Phillipus Varrus
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| Subject: |
Re: Religio Romana in Nova Roma |
| From: |
Cassius622@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:33:39 EDT |
|
In a message dated 6/4/99 5:04:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=113082020165082153015222190036129" >Exitil@--------</a>
(Alexander Novus) writes:
> Perhaps we could just separate the religion from the nation? Would
encourage
more non-pagans to join and would decrease the change of Nova Roma being
called a cult.
Alexander, it's fairly obvious from this posting and others you've made that
you have no interest in the Religio Romana. That's fine - it's certainly not
required for Citizenship. I'm assuming that you *do* have interest in other
aspects of ancient Rome, or else you wouldn't be here.
The fact that the Religio is considered to be an integral part of the
foundation of Roman culture (ancient or Nova Roman) is not a new concept that
we've invented on a whim. Surely if you've read any history you understand
that the Roman religion and state were completely intertwined throughout
antiquity. The state derived its power and authority from the Gods, and the
Gods were in turn honored by the state.
I can't help but put this bluntly: If we were to drop the Religio, Nova Roma
would cease to be a serious revival of Romanitas. Relegating the sacred
foundation of the Roman world to a back corner (at best) just because some
people don't agree with it would destroy any possible claim we might have to
being a true revival of ancient Roman culture. We'd become yet another SCA,
or perhaps just a role-playing game.
Even though you're new to Nova Roma, you surely must have noticed one thing;
Pagan religious belief is not forced upon Citizens. Nobody has contacted you
trying to evangelize you into Roman Paganism, and most of the Nova Roma site
is completely secular. All possible efforts have been made, and are being
made, to make sure that non-Pagan Citizens feel welcome and accepted. So far,
this has worked. We don't keep track of our Citizens' personal beliefs, but I
estimate that about 40 percent of the Nova Roman population is Christian.
Continuing to uphold the Religio Romana has not been a detriment to Nova
Roma. We have many Christian citizens, and value their energy and input. The
Nova Roma web site has become a well known and popular resource for Roman
information. In fact, we've had several teachers write to us and mention that
they recommend it to their students a regular basis! We are acceptable as we
are.
You probably are correct when you say that more people might apply for
Citizenship if Paganism were not a part of Nova Roma. Yet even if we
destroyed the founding core of Nova Roma to do this, what sort of Citizenry
would we be attracting? Only those who are completely intolerant of faiths
other than their own, and who cannot abide differing opinions. I do not
believe this is worth the necessary compromise - especially since most of our
Pagan citizens, whom we also value, would promptly quit.
I hope this helps clear up this issue for you, and I would be happy to answer
any questions you may have in private e-mail. As you may have noticed, the
Nova Roma mailing list is often a little more freewheeling than polite.
Paganism is not going to go away from Nova Roma. If you are not willing to be
part of an organization that includes Pagans, we wish you well on your future
path. Yet you are obviously a person of many ideas, and I encourage you to
turn your thoughts to how best to help others come to know and appreciate
ancient Roman culture and history in all its aspects.
Vale,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
Senator
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| Subject: |
Re: The After Life |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:53:33 -0500 (CDT) |
|
On 06/05/99 17:04:23 you wrote:
>
>From: "Publius P--------ipus Varrus" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=034056178237175198015199190036129" >legate@--------</a>
>
>Having only the vaguest notions about the Roman Religio and wishing to know
>more I ask the following:
>
>What is the Roman concept of the after life? Does the soul live on? Do
>'good' people go someplace different from 'bad' people ? Are we judged by
>the Gods? Re-incarnated etc. etc. ?
>
>Publius Phillipus Varrus
Ooh,ooh! I can answer this one! Dis Pater is one of my patron gods...
When you die ("you" being a good Roman of the Religion persuasion), you are escorted to the River Styx
by spirits. There, you and the other recently life-challenged are met by Charon, the ferryman. A coin, an
obolus, will have been placed in your former body's mouth to pay Charon (although an aurus gets you a
better seat in the boat, some believed). This payment was not representative of money so much as of the
relationship between god and man, acknowledging your debt to the gods and their protection and
guidance to you.
On the other side of Styx, you will pass Cerberus, the three-headed watchdog belonging to Father Dis,
god of the Underworld. Cerberus will be friendly -- he only becomes UNfriendly when shades try to get
OUT of the Underworld unauthorized.
You will go before the three judges, Minos, Rhadamanthos and Aeacus, who will ask you to account for
your life. After you've made your accounting, you will be given the water of the River Lethe, the river of
forgetfulness and one of five Rivers in the Underworld, which makes you forget your past life. You will be
sent to the Elysian Fields (a version of paradise) if you've been a warrior or hero; The Plain of Asphodel, if
you've been a good citizen, where you will continue to live a good life as a shade; or -- if you've really
screwed up and offended the gods -- you'll be sent to Tartarus where you'll be punished by the Furies until
your debt to society is paid. (There's no "eternal damnation" in the Roman underworld, although you can
be there a pretty damned long time, depending on what you've done.) Your punishment depends on your
crime.
Every once in a while, Dis or Persephone, the Queen of the Underworld, will reprieve a candidate for the
entire process and send him or her back to live again, especially if the deceased was unjustly murdered.
He is given the Water of Forgetfulness and sent back across the Styx, presumably with a treat for
Cerberus! (This is where the old phrase, " a sop for Cerberus" comes from -- a bribe.)
Dis, while he is God of the Underworld, is NOT the God of Death. He does not decide who lives and
dies. Instead, this is determined by the Three Fates. However, Dis does dispatch the god of death, Mors
or Thanatos, to do his duty. He also has some connection with Morpheus, god of dreams.
Interestingly, Dis Pater is the only god with no name. He is known by the name of his kingdom: Hades,
Pluto, or Dis, all of which refer to the secret riches of the earth.
-- Flavia Claudia
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| Subject: |
Re: The After Life |
| From: |
"Publius Phillipus Varrus" legate@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:22:37 -0400 |
|
Whew, that was great. Summed it all up in a nice package with enough hooks
in it for me to go out and research further...Bits and pieces of it rang a
bell with me, probably from such varied sources as Homer and Xena ( There's
a pair )...
Publius
Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 1999 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] The After Life
> Ooh,ooh! I can answer this one! Dis Pater is one of my patron gods...
>
> When you die ("you" being a good Roman of the Religion persuasion), you
are escorted to the River Styx
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| Subject: |
Re: The After Life |
| From: |
dean6886@--------) |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:28:16 -0500 (CDT) |
|
That very nice summary should go onto the Nova Roma webpage somewhere
in a question and answer type way along with some other questions
regarding the Religio.
Gaius Drusus Domitianus
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| Subject: |
Re: religio |
| From: |
Patrick Dunn saevvs@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 19:09:53 PDT |
|
>Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:04:34 EDT
> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=113082020165082153015098190036129" >Exitil@--------</--------;
>Subject: Religio Romana
>
>Perhaps we could just separate the religion from the nation? Would
>encourage
>more non-pagans to join and would decrease the change of Nova Roma being
>called a cult.
>
This puts me in mind of a joke. Tonto and the Lone Ranger are out riding,
when they top a ridge to see a group of at least 200 native Americans
dressed in warpaint and riding toward them.
"Oh, no, Tonto, it looks like we're in trouble now!" says the Lone Ranger.
Tonto replies: "What 'we', paleface?"
That said, let's look at the religio a little closer now for my benefit and
maybe yours (incidently, could one of the pontifices send me the address to
that board; I switched computers again and now I'm three hours away from my
bookmarks).
I'll be absolutely honest about my feelings on Nova Roma and the Religio. I
dream of building temples to the gods, of processions down Pennsylvania
Ave., of a lararium in every trailor home, of little statues of Hermes on
dash boards. But I am realistic enough to know that Nova Roma will not
achieve this.
The only thing that will achieve this is a concentrated effort to reinstate
paganism, untied from *any other agenda*. At one time, the Julian Society
seemed a strong possibility. As is often the case, too many irons in the
fire made the fire burn out.
I am aware that I do not have the organization skills to pull off such an
endeavor myself. I'm not certain that anyone is available who has. For
now, we remain crackpots because of this.
So we get back to Caligula's comment (if you don't give us a name, I'll give
you one myself!): what if we did sever the ties between Nova Roma and the
religio? Nova Roma would die quickly, or at least turn into an insipid
little club of classics afficionadoes, a pale version fo the SCA. Rome *is*
the Religio.
Nova Roma must have the religio. But the Religio must begin to work outside
of Rome. We must begin work to establish it as a viable religious path.
--M. Gladius Saevus, Pontifex, Augur
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| Subject: |
Re: religio |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:49:08 -0500 (CDT) |
|
On 06/05/99 19:09:53 you wrote:
>
>From: Patrick Dunn <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=061166192084017233015199190036129" >saevvs@--------</a>
>
>
>The only thing that will achieve this is a concentrated effort to reinstate
>paganism, untied from *any other agenda*. At one time, the Julian Society
>seemed a strong possibility. As is often the case, too many irons in the
>fire made the fire burn out.
>
There are many of us who remember the Julian Society with much fondness. It's only purpose was to
expand the Religio. No meetings, no dues, no politics... just do your part for paganism. Too bad it couldn't
have been combined with classical studies and an online presence like Nova Roma's.
>
>So we get back to Caligula's comment (if you don't give us a name, I'll give
>you one myself!): what if we did sever the ties between Nova Roma and the
>religio? Nova Roma would die quickly, or at least turn into an insipid
>little club of classics afficionadoes, a pale version fo the SCA. Rome *is*
>the Religio.
You're missing the point, Saevus. A Roman version of the SCA seems to be exactly what some of our
Citizens have in mind. Others seem far too infatuated with the idea of a Roman "Freemen" militia group.
-- Flavia Claudia
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| Subject: |
Re: religio |
| From: |
Kyrene Ariadne kyreneariadne@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:56:19 -0700 (PDT) |
|
--- <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a> wrote:
> There are many of us who remember the Julian Society with much fondness. It's
> only purpose was to
> expand the Religio. No meetings, no dues, no politics... just do your part
> for paganism. Too bad it couldn't
> have been combined with classical studies and an online presence like Nova
> Roma's.
What happened to the Julian Society? I have their URL somewhere, and remember
visiting it recently....
Vale et khairete,
Andrea Gladia Kyrinia
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| Subject: |
Re: religio |
| From: |
SFP55@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:57:04 EDT |
|
In a message dated 6/5/99 7:49:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a> wr--------:
<< You're missing the point, Saevus. A Roman version of the SCA seems to be
exactly what some of our Citizens have in mind. Others seem far too
infatuated with the idea of a Roman "Freemen" militia group.
-- Flavia Claudia >>
Salvete
Flavia Claudia is correct. It behooves all citizens with whatever vision
they have for the state to all work together. As NR comes together, it will
allow different visions to take shape. But only after we have constructed a
strong core. The core is the most important. And the religio is a very
important part of this core.
Valete
Q Fabius
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| Subject: |
Re: religio |
| From: |
Cassius622@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:02:57 EDT |
|
In a message dated 6/5/99 10:52:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=200028091056078198169061186140081090177098100046209130" >k--------eariadne@--------</a> writes:
<<
What happened to the Julian Society? I have their URL somewhere, and
remember
visiting it recently....
>>
The Julian Society is alive and well, actually. The URL for the site is:
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1568/index.html" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1568/index.html</a>
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| Subject: |
Re: religio |
| From: |
Kyrene Ariadne kyreneariadne@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:07:08 -0700 (PDT) |
|
--- <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------; wrote:
> << What happened to the Julian Society? I have their URL somewhere, and
> remember visiting it recently.... >>
> The Julian Society is alive and well, actually. The URL for the site is:
> <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1568/index.html" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1568/index.html</a>
That's what I thought....
So why are people talking about it like it died? Did something happen?
Vale et khairete,
Andrea Gladia Kyrinia
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| Subject: |
Re: religio |
| From: |
Cassius622@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:18:15 EDT |
|
In a message dated 6/5/99 11:07:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=200028091056078198169061186140081090177098100046209130" >k--------eariadne@--------</a> writes:
<< -- <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------; wrote:
> << What happened to the Julian Society? I have their URL somewhere, and
> remember visiting it recently.... >>
> The Julian Society is alive and well, actually. The URL for the site is:
> <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1568/index.html" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1568/index.html</a>
That's what I thought....
So why are people talking about it like it died? Did something happen?
Vale et khairete,
Andrea Gladia Kyrinia
>>
The Julian Society was begun in the same year Nova Roma was founded. I took
quite a long hiatus from the Society in order to get Nova Roma up and
running. That move really left some folks hanging - but it was something that
just couldn't be avoided. Now that things are going along well I've been
able to take some time and get the Julian Society back onto it's feet. So far
so good! :)
Vale,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
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| Subject: |
Re: religio |
| From: |
Kyrene Ariadne kyreneariadne@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:23:03 -0700 (PDT) |
|
--- <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------; wrote:
> The Julian Society was begun in the same year Nova Roma was founded. I took
> quite a long hiatus from the Society in order to get Nova Roma up and
> running. That move really left some folks hanging - but it was something that
> just couldn't be avoided. Now that things are going along well I've been
> able to take some time and get the Julian Society back onto it's feet. So far
> so good! :)
> Vale,
> Marcus Cassius Julianus
That's good, because I keep going back to the website and reminding myself to
join one of these days. It's for an excellent cause. :)
Vale et khairete,
Andrea Gladia Kyrinia
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| Subject: |
Re: religio |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 22:22:35 -0700 |
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Hailsa Allir!
I've seen Zemetrius on alt.armourers recently still shopping his idea of
live action gladiatorial combat.
Vale - Venator
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| Subject: |
Re: religio |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 22:51:45 -0700 |
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Avete Omnes, Salus et Fortuna!
As a practitioner of a Religion foreign to that of Rome (adversarial in the
time of Roma Antiqua in actuality), I know that the Soul of Rome is the
propitiation of the Olympians, the daily rituals, the Hearth Fire of Vesta,
the Augers, the Pontifices, as well as the Senate, the Consuls and other
Magistrates, the Games, the Edifices, the bridges, aquaducts...
I am willing to set aside a public place for my religious practices in order
that a New Rome be built. I want allies for mine own northern peoples in
the context of a broader Indo-European Heritage.
(I know, Roma Antiqua wasn't strictly an I-E culture, but the Latins,
Umbrians, Sabines, et alia, plus the Celts, Gauls, Illyrians, Dacians,
Hellenes, Germans, Britons amongst others were, and made up a large part of
Rome's cultural foundations.)
I am in Nova Rome because of an interest in Roma Antiqua's accomplishments.
The majority of folks I've "met" here are, in my not so humble opinion,
quite worthy of the appelation Roman, in its best sense.
Remove the Soul from close contact with the Intellect and Form of Rome?
Easier to balance on a three legged stool, with one support removed.
In the parlance of my Folk: Thessi nithsuell eg reisa!
Hindra alla illvirki!
Thissa bletsung eg reisa!
Kraftur og fraegth, Romani!
In Frith, Piparskegg UllRsson Veithmadur, Asatru Gothi
known in Nova Roma as Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
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| Subject: |
A wedding announcement |
| From: |
"Don and Crys Meaker" mater@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:36:12 -0500 |
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Salvete,
Although many of you already know, or suspected, I am finally
announcing publicly that the wedding of Gaius Cornelius
Mamertinus and myself will be held on 18 June 1999.
So many of you know what my life has been the last year or better.
I am now happier than I have been in my life. I have my Miracle
(Terry) my Gift (Lapis) and my Reward (Don). I never thought I
would ever be this happy.
Crys (and Don)
Maius Cornelius Mamertinus and Amethystia Iunia Crystallina
Roman, let this be your care, your art: To beat down the proud, and teach the ways of peace.
Virgil
ICQ# 38493770
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| Subject: |
Change in E-mail |
| From: |
"L.Cornelius Sulla" alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:32:09 -0700 |
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Salv-------- am back only for th--------y. But I just want--------o l--------v--------n--------ow I hav--------n---------mail addy. I will b----------------g <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a> for a month or two. But I hav--------tt-------- fr---------mail account with Earthlink, sinc--------am th----------------oy--------so my n---------mail addy is <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a> I just want--------o giv--------h-------- up. W--------now I am off to g---------------- for Nocta's arrival :) 4 mor--------ys! :)
Vale
Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Praetor Urbanus
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| Subject: |
Re: A wedding announcement |
| From: |
Megas-Rob--------n <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232178182078116015056190036129" >amgunn@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 23:41:47 -0700 |
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Ave Maius Cornelius Mamertinus et Amethystia Iunia Crystallina (plus
Terralina et Lapis)
Vivat - Vivat - Vivat!
I shall be with Anglo-Saxon Heathen friends at the time of your wedding for
a Midsummer celebration. I shall lift the Meadhorn in Sumbel and ask my
Holy Ones to smile upon Thee and Thine.
(Don, you're getting a bright, courageous lady there, but you knew that
already. <G> )
My Blessings - Uncle Venator
P.S. I still need your new mailing address!
From: "Don and Crys Meaker" &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029166114056127135138082190036" >mater@--------&--------a>
>
> Salvete,
>
> Although many of you already know, or suspected, I am finally
> announcing publicly that the wedding of Gaius Cornelius
> Mamertinus and myself will be held on 18 June 1999.
>
> So many of you know what my life has been the last year or better.
> I am now happier than I have been in my life. I have my Miracle
> (Terry) my Gift (Lapis) and my Reward (Don). I never thought I
> would ever be this happy.
>
> Crys (and Don)
> Maius Cornelius Mamertinus and Amethystia Iunia Crystallina
>
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| Subject: |
Re: A wedding announcement |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:41:22 -0700 |
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A sincere Congratulations to the both of you. I wish you only the best.
May you have a very pleasant and wonderful life together!
Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Praetor Urbanus
Paterfamilias of the Gens Cornelia
----- Original Message -----
From: Don and Crys Meaker &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029166114056127135138082190036" >mater@--------&--------a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 1999 9:36 PM
Subject: [novaroma] A wedding announcement
> From: "Don and Crys Meaker" &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029166114056127135138082190036" >mater@--------&--------a>
>
> Salvete,
>
> Although many of you already know, or suspected, I am finally
> announcing publicly that the wedding of Gaius Cornelius
> Mamertinus and myself will be held on 18 June 1999.
>
> So many of you know what my life has been the last year or better.
> I am now happier than I have been in my life. I have my Miracle
> (Terry) my Gift (Lapis) and my Reward (Don). I never thought I
> would ever be this happy.
>
> Crys (and Don)
> Maius Cornelius Mamertinus and Amethystia Iunia Crystallina
>
> Roman, let this be your care, your art: To beat down the proud, and teach
the ways of peace.
> Virgil
>
> ICQ# 38493770
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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| Subject: |
Re: My Replies |
| From: |
hadji hadji@-------- |
| Date: |
Sat, 05 Jun 1999 08:57:55 +0200 |
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Salve Cypria,
Djakujem/dziakujem Vam welmi pekne/bardzo za interesantne informacie.
Zavolajte mi prosim ked budete v Krakowe. Vymislime nejaky program aj
na Slovensku.
Dovidzenia
Vale
Alexander I.C.P.M.
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