Subject:	Re: Governmental Email
From:	SFP55@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:05:56 EDT

In a message dated 7/27/1999 8:18:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
<a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a> writes:

<< Would all the individuals who are currently holding positions in the
government (as magistrates, scribae, lictores, priests, etc.) please email
me and let me know what vanity email address you'd like to have? >>
Salve
<a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=077249113154082192130232203101129208071" >FMaximus@--------</a> would be --------.
Vale
Q. Fabius

Subject:	Re: Governmental Email
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:31:44 -0700

How about ericius@-------- ? Nothing like being shockingly original, eh? And when I ask
that you be careful with the spelling keep in mind that someties I gett he letters out of
order, and it is damn near my Real name. [humor]

Vale.
C. Aelius Ericius

Flavius Vedius Germanicus wrote:

> From: "Flavius Vedius Germa--------s" <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a> >
> Salvete,
>
> Would all the individuals who are currently holding positions in the
> government (as magistrates, scribae, lictores, priests, etc.) please email
> me and let me know what vanity email address you'd like to have? (Just like
> I'm <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a>, a--------arcus Cassius Julia--------is > <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=219166066112082162090218066036129208" >cassius@--------</a>). First come, first served. >
> Thanks...
>
> Vale,
>
> Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
> Dictator
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Subject:	Re: Governmental Email
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" germanicus@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:01:38 -0400

Salvete!

Thanks to those who've written letting me know their choice for vanity email
addresses. A roster of the currently-active email addresses may now be found
on the Forum Romanum page of the web site. For those who have them, please
test them out (make sure I didn't make a typo, etc.).

Valete,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Dictator

Subject:	Priesthood Application/Sadness
From:	"Don and Crys Meaker" famromo@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:06:53 -0500

Salvete,

I am not sure exactly what to do here. If these are the official
guidelines/requirements then I must resign my Priesthood for
reasons I will state here (don't panic, I will reveal as little of myself
as possible).


>Guidelines for applying for Priesthood in Nova Roma

>1. We ask that applicants have sincere religious feeling for the
>deity
>who's priesthood they wish to undertake. It is necessary that the
>applicant worship that deity in private life in addition to being
>willing
>to preside over public rituals on behalf of Nova Roma. As our
>central goal is to restore sincere as well as traditional worship of
>the
>ancient Gods, we cannot grant Priesthood status to Citizens who
>apply only for reasons of historical curiosity or for purposes of
>secular historical reenactment.

In this I am fine. My Patron Deities are Iuno Iuppiter and Minerva.

>2. We ask that Priesthood applicants have real time to devote
>toward advancing the worship of their chosen deity both within
>Nova Roma and in the outside world. This involves being available
>for public correspondence concerning the worship of the God or
>Goddess they serve, assisting others in their personal worship,
>working to reconstruct rites, prayers and other religious liturgy
>related to their deity, being available for public rites sponsored by
>Nova Roma, and ideally, organizing public rites/temples on their
>own as well. We feel that Priesthood is defined by active service
>on
>many levels. Therefore we cannot provide empty "titles" for those
>who are unable to put forth genuine effort.

The only time I see this being any sort of a problem is if I should be
needed by NR and by my children at the same time (ie. no
babysitter). I am afraid that my children always have and always
will come before NR. My worship of Iuno to date has been done at
my convenience (after the children have gone to bed for the night or
are both asleep during the day at the same time).


>3. We must ask that all Priesthood applicants be able to do
>College-level literary research to recover the historical facts of their
>Priesthood, and the worship of the God or Goddess they seek to
>serve. The restoration of the Religio Romana is still in its first
>stages
>and it is the Priesthood that must do the historical work to make
>their chosen path come alive again. Each Priestess or Priest will
>be
>required to create a complete written "plan" for rebuilding the
>worship of their deity at some point, This will need to include not
>only a historical overview of their God or Goddesses ancient
>worship, but also written rituals for the deities festival days,
>prayers
>and rites for others who seek to worship that deity, offering liturgy,
>etc. We recommend that applicants have access to one or more
>good libraries, or have the means to find/buy scholarly books and
>resource materials.

This is the MAJOR problem. While I am capable of reading college-
level material, I am not college educated. My little town has a
single, very small library and no college. I do not drive and do not
have regular access to Houston. The information I have gotten so
far has been generously supplied to me by Fabius and Vado and
members of the Religio email list. I doubt that the Temple of Iuno
page offers what the College is looking for.


>4. We must also request that applicants agree to act within a
>Roman reconstructionist format while acting as an official
>Priestess
>or Priest of Nova Roma. This means being as historically accurate
>as possible in rituals, offerings, prayers, written text, etc. As we
>are seeking to build the Religio Romana as a distinct religion in
>the
>modern world, it is important that it's practices be as unique today
>as they were in the antiquity.

While I have no problem doing this it is not really realistic. Rituals
done by me would likely be done late in the evening (after my
children have gone to sleep for the evening). I had not planned to
take any ritual baths or don ritual garb (is that even the right word).
I had plans to make a veil that I would wear only in rituals (not the
everyday veils I wear ever day).

There is also a possible problem with alcohol in ritual. I am not
100% sure I could drink for rituals sake and remain sober. It is a
possibility, but I am honestly not 100% sure (sorry if that was
personal, but I do that).

I am afraid I do not qualify as I once thought I did. It is then,
perhaps best, that the Position go to someone more Qualified.

Amethystia Iunia-Cornelia Crystallina

Subject:	Gov. Email
From:	"Don and Crys Meaker" famromo@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:13:38 -0500

Germanicus asked:

"Would all the individuals who are currently holding positions in the
government (as magistrates, scribae, lictores, priests, etc.) please
email
me and let me know what vanity email address you'd like to have?"

I do not know if it counts/matters anymore, but I would/would have
(?) liked <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=100161222124127028090057175064247089000144044234209130152" >AICCrystalli--------...</a>

Amethystia Iunia-Cornelia Crystallina

Subject:	Re: Governmental Email
From:	jmath669642reng@--------)
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:22:43 -0400 (EDT)

Salve, Dictator Germanicus;

Sir, if it is possble, I would like to have the following E-Mail name:

<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=174249071182248198172232033165114151071048139" >MMAudens42@--------</a>

Vale, Dictator Germanicus;
Very Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

Subject:	Re: Priesthood Application/Sadness
From:	Decius Iunius Palladius amcgrath@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:24:38 -0400 (EDT)

On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Don and Crys Meaker wrote:

> From: "Don an--------ys Meaker" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=230166014180193192112218004036129208" >famromo@--------</a>
>
> Salvete,
>
> I am not sure exactly what to do here. If these are the official
> guidelines/requirements then I must resign my Priesthood for
> reasons I will state here (don't panic, I will reveal as little of myself
> as possible).


Salve! From my understanding of this, it applies to any new applications,
it is not retroactive for the position you already hold. If you apply for
another position, then you will have to fill the form out.

Vale,

Decius Iunius Palladius,
Pontiff

Subject:	Written Material on Website
From:	jmath669642reng@--------)
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:27:18 -0400 (EDT)

Salve, Dictator Germanicus;

Sir, I most respectfully request that you consider forwarding wriiten
material that come to your hand to the Eagle first before posting it on
the web site. It will be difficult to maintain an interesting and
scintillating variety of material in the Eagle as the previous edtor
found, simply because most peple do not have time to write for the
newsletter.

A windfall, such as you describe now posted,, would have made a
comfortable backlog of material.

I thank you, most kindly, for your consideration of this request.

Vale, Dictator Germanicus;
Very Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

Subject:	Re:Priesthood Application/Sadness
From:	Cassius622@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:47:38 EDT

Salve,

Just wanted to take a few moments to answer the concerns brought up by Crys.
I WOULD like to say that its always impressive when someone has the ability
to question themselves so directly...

In a message dated 7/28/1999 6:07:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=230166014180193192112218004036129208" >famromo@--------</a> writes:

> I am not sure exactly what to do here. If these are the official
guidelines/requirements then I must resign my Priesthood for
reasons I will state here (don't panic, I will reveal as little of myself
as possible).

Not to worry Crys, there's no need to worry! Your efforts are actually well
within the spirit of the guidelines, and your participation is both welcome
and appreciated.

>Guidelines for applying for Priesthood in Nova Roma

>1. We ask that applicants have sincere religious feeling for the
>deity
>who's priesthood they wish to undertake. It is necessary that the
>applicant worship that deity in private life in addition to being
>willing
>to preside over public rituals on behalf of Nova Roma. As our
>central goal is to restore sincere as well as traditional worship of
>the
>ancient Gods, we cannot grant Priesthood status to Citizens who
>apply only for reasons of historical curiosity or for purposes of
>secular historical reenactment.

>In this I am fine. My Patron Deities are Iuno Iuppiter and Minerva.

Cassius:
See, you're off to a fine start.

>2. We ask that Priesthood applicants have real time to devote
>toward advancing the worship of their chosen deity both within
>Nova Roma and in the outside world. This involves being available
>for public correspondence concerning the worship of the God or
>Goddess they serve, assisting others in their personal worship,
>working to reconstruct rites, prayers and other religious liturgy
>related to their deity, being available for public rites sponsored by
>Nova Roma, and ideally, organizing public rites/temples on their
>own as well. We feel that Priesthood is defined by active service
>on
>many levels. Therefore we cannot provide empty "titles" for those
>who are unable to put forth genuine effort.

Crys:
The only time I see this being any sort of a problem is if I should be
needed by NR and by my children at the same time (ie. no
babysitter). I am afraid that my children always have and always
will come before NR. My worship of Iuno to date has been done at
my convenience (after the children have gone to bed for the night or
are both asleep during the day at the same time).

Cassius:
You have nothing to worry about here. Family comes first... nobody will
expect you to ignore your children on behalf of the religio. This guideline
was put in place so that folks don't just collect priesthood titles and then
do "nothing" thereafter. You're obviously an active person who will continue
to stay involved. You've certainly already proven that! :)

>3. We must ask that all Priesthood applicants be able to do
>College-level literary research to recover the historical facts of their
>Priesthood, and the worship of the God or Goddess they seek to
>serve. The restoration of the Religio Romana is still in its first
>stages
>and it is the Priesthood that must do the historical work to make
>their chosen path come alive again. Each Priestess or Priest will
>be
>required to create a complete written "plan" for rebuilding the
>worship of their deity at some point, This will need to include not
>only a historical overview of their God or Goddesses ancient
>worship, but also written rituals for the deities festival days,
>prayers
>and rites for others who seek to worship that deity, offering liturgy,
>etc. We recommend that applicants have access to one or more
>good libraries, or have the means to find/buy scholarly books and
>resource materials.

Crys:
This is the MAJOR problem. While I am capable of reading college-
level material, I am not college educated. My little town has a
single, very small library and no college. I do not drive and do not
have regular access to Houston. The information I have gotten so
far has been generously supplied to me by Fabius and Vado and
members of the Religio email list. I doubt that the Temple of Iuno
page offers what the College is looking for.

Cassius:
A college degree is NOT necessary for priesthood... just the ability to do
research and comprehend scholarly text material. You'd be surprised how many
folks want to just make stuff up, and who think that reading one book on
paganism from "Llewellyn" is all the training they'll ever need! It would be
great if you had better access to research materials, but you're doing
everything possible right now so that's enough. In the long term you'll
probably want to make a specially planned trip to Houston to visit a library
or two... that's what copy machines are for! ;)

So far you've made a great start with the Temple of Juno page. As things
progress you'll want to add a good deal more historical info... but that's
something that you'll be able to do over time.

>4. We must also request that applicants agree to act within a
>Roman reconstructionist format while acting as an official
>Priestess
>or Priest of Nova Roma. This means being as historically accurate
>as possible in rituals, offerings, prayers, written text, etc. As we
>are seeking to build the Religio Romana as a distinct religion in
>the
>modern world, it is important that it's practices be as unique today
>as they were in the antiquity.

Crys:
While I have no problem doing this it is not really realistic. Rituals
done by me would likely be done late in the evening (after my
children have gone to sleep for the evening). I had not planned to
take any ritual baths or don ritual garb (is that even the right word).
I had plans to make a veil that I would wear only in rituals (not the
everyday veils I wear ever day).

Cassius:
Nobody expects you to don Roman garb every time you do something religious on
a personal basis. Sure, it'd be nice... but even I don't put on a Toga every
time I want to light a candle at the Lararium or whatever! So far you're
doing fine. Once things progress to the point where you can do the occasional
PUBLIC ritual you'd want Roman dress, etc.

Crys:
There is also a possible problem with alcohol in ritual. I am not
100% sure I could drink for rituals sake and remain sober. It is a
possibility, but I am honestly not 100% sure (sorry if that was
personal, but I do that).

Cassius:
Nobody is going to hold you to using alcohol since you have a situation.
Again, not to worry!

Crys:
I am afraid I do not qualify as I once thought I did. It is then,
perhaps best, that the Position go to someone more Qualified.

Cassius:
You're doing fine, AND incredibly sincere. I have every belief that you'll do
all possible honor to the Priestess of Juno position. Please enjoy it, and
put in a good word to Juno for Nova Roma, could ya?

Vale,

Marcus Cassius Julianus
Pontifex Maximus

Subject:	G. Iunius Germanus
From:	Daniel Dreesbach dreesbach@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:11:37 -0700 (PDT)

Have I been considered for lictores

G Iunius Germanus

--- Flavius Vedius Germa--------s <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a> wrote:
> From: "Flavius Vedius Germanicus"
> <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a> >
> Salvete,
>
> Would all the individuals who are currently holding
> positions in the
> government (as magistrates, scribae, lictores,
> priests, etc.) please email
> me and let me know what vanity email address you'd
> like to have? (Just like
> I'm <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a>, a--------arcus Cassius > Julianus is
> <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=219166066112082162090218066036129208" >cassius@--------</a>). First come, first served. >
> Thanks...
>
> Vale,
>
> Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
> Dictator
>
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Subject:	Eagle Subscription
From:	jmath669642reng@--------)
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:32:06 -0400 (EDT)

Salve; Consul Palladius;

Sir; I believe that you are correct in that the subscription price was
raised to $12.00 per year and not to $10.00 per year as I previously
thought.

All those in NR wishing to start or re-start your subscription to Eagle
should contact me at the following address;

Jim Mathews
1319 Baldwin Hill Road
Gales Ferry, CT
06335-1801

Vale, Consul Palladius;
Very Respectfully;
Marcus Mincius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

Subject:	Re: C. Aelius Ericius - New Augur of Nova Roma
From:	jmath669642reng@--------)
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:49:26 -0400 (EDT)

Salve, Senator, Pontiff, Pro-Praefect, and Augur Ericius;

My personal congratulations in your new position. Sorry that I am just
now getting to a response, but I wanted to make it kind of special. Can
you give me an augury of the success of the new Eagle Editor (Grin!!!!)

All the best to you, that comes from where and when you desire;

Vale, Senator, Pontiff, Pro-Praefect, and Augur Ericius;
Very Respectfully;
Marcus Mincius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

Subject:	New in the aerarium Saturnii
From:	"Flavius Vedius Germanicus" germanicus@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:08:15 -0400

Salvete omnes!

I have just posted the final piece of my legislative package to get our
government system up and running; the Lex Vedia de Ratione Eligium, dealing
with the actual vote-taking process. For now, I am limiting myself to
internet-based voting, as I am unsure that any system of regular mail-based
voting would ever be practical (at least if we don't want every vote taking
more than two months to complete). Should we find the need to institute
regular mail voting, the door is left open for such in the law I'm
proposing.

I would ask everyone's input on the law as proposed; suggestions as always
are welcomed!

Also, I've made a couple of changes (once again, this should hopefully be
the last) in the Constitution, specifically in the section on the Senate
(paragraphs V.D., V.E., and V.F.). Please check them out and give me any
feedback you think needs to be given.

At this stage, my work as dictator is almost complete, and I expect to be
laying down my office this weekend. The only remaining tasks I see are a few
final housekeeping decrees and the appointment of the rogatores (election
officers). If you would be interested in filling this position (which
requires regular access to the Internet and basic familiarity with
spreadsheet software), please let me know. After I leave office, elections
will be automatically triggered for the vacancies in the roster of
magistrates; consul, plebeian aedile, and some of the vigintisexviri. That's
why it's going to be important to have the election officers in place right
away. :-)

Valete,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Dictator

Subject:	Re: Priesthood Application/Sadness
From:	Mia Soderquist tuozine@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:06:31 -0400

Don and Crys Meaker wrote:
> This is the MAJOR problem. While I am capable of reading college-
> level material, I am not college educated. My little town has a
> single, very small library and no college. I do not drive and do not
> have regular access to Houston. The information I have gotten so
> far has been generously supplied to me by Fabius and Vado and
> members of the Religio email list. I doubt that the Temple of Iuno
> page offers what the College is looking for.
>

Maybe I could help you with this-- I live within minutes of a University
library. I don't have a degree either-- I dropped out of college TWICE.
:) [I was passing, but I had 3 babies in that period of time-- 1989-92.]
I need to do some reading on Rome anyway, and the Religio is of
particular interest to me-- I could do some research with you. Also, if
you had something in particular that you wanted to find on the Net, I'd
be happy to take up some of the searching task. I'm pretty good at
that-- I've got a good feel for what keywords will find things, but more
importantly, I am persistant enough to keep looking long after my eyes
have started to glaze over. :)

--
Mia Soderquist (<a href="/post/novaro--------rotectID=189075253209082116184218072036129208" >tuozine@--------</a>)
ICQ 19818811 or 5926593
Ari tefeli ceyijei eisu ceitisa yei ari sivai ceigaiyu.

Subject:	Re: Priesthood Application/Sadness
From:	"Don and Crys Meaker" famromo@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:38:45 -0500

On 28 Jul 99, at 19:06, Mia Soderquist wrote:

>
> Maybe I could help you with this-- I live within minutes of a University
> library. I don't have a degree either-- I dropped out of college TWICE. :)
> [I was passing, but I had 3 babies in that period of time-- 1989-92.] I

Yikes! Need I say more <G>.

> need to do some reading on Rome anyway, and the Religio is of particular
> interest to me-- I could do some research with you. Also, if you had
> something in particular that you wanted to find on the Net, I'd be happy
> to take up some of the searching task. I'm pretty good at that-- I've got
> a good feel for what keywords will find things, but more importantly, I am
> persistant enough to keep looking long after my eyes have started to glaze
> over. :)

I thank you for the help. I don't know if I have covered every
possible keyword in every search engine or not (maybe it just feels
like it). I am learning that I seem to be drawn to the
unresearchable it seems (Roman Children, Specifics on my
Priesthood, etc). If you happen across anything PLEASE let me
know. I search every day, but there may be something I am
missing.

Don is interviewing with NASA and if that is successful (BTW, don't
let me stop anyone from praying to whoever they feel drawn to for
the success <G>) we will be moving to a small town just 4 or 5
miles from Houston (why this doesn't make it a 'burb, I don't know)
as opposed tot he 50 miles we are away now.

Again I would like to thank you as well as Fabius and Vado
publicly. Without the help I have been receiving I would be winging
it for sure (and you guys know me ..... <G>).

Vale,

AICCrystallina -- Priestess to Iuno (BTW how many of them ARE
there?)

Subject:	Re:New Augur of Nova Roma
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:27:56 -0700

Salvete Quirites!

I wish to thank all of you who have sent me your well wishes on my confirmation as a
member of the Augurial College of Nova Roma. I will do my best. I have been doing this
as a private person for some time now and sources I have found through Nova Roma have
helped farther my skills.

Salvete.
C. Aelius Ericius.

Subject:	Re: Re:Priesthood Application/Sadness
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:58:06 -0700

Cassius Pontifex Maximus.
Thank you for posting this reply to Crys's Sadness. One of the times when the PontMax is
the Max!
Ericius.
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------; wrote:
(Everything snipped but this. This says it, Crys, Cassius.)

> Not to worry Crys, there's no need to worry! Your efforts are actually well
> within the spirit of the guidelines, and your participation is both welcome
> and appreciated.

Subject:	Re: Priesthood Application/Sadness
From:	Steven Robinson amgunn@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:46:57 -0700

Ave Crystallina!

Don and Crys Meaker wrote:
>
> Don is interviewing with NASA and if that is successful (BTW, don't
> let me stop anyone from praying to whoever they feel drawn to for
> the success <G>) we will be moving to a small town just 4 or 5
> miles from Houston (why this doesn't make it a 'burb, I don't know)
> as opposed tot he 50 miles we are away now.
>

My very best wishes for Don's success. With a gem like you at home, he
deserves to get a job which will allow you to become accustomed to a more
secure life, for you and the children.

Give the Terror and Lapis a hug for me,

Odin Uncle Venator

Subject:	CMM de lege sub nomine LEX VEDIA DE RATIONE ELIGIUM was New in the aerarium Saturnii
From:	"Gaius Marius Merullus" rmerullo@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:56:28 -0400

Salvete Dictator Flavi Vedi et alii

-

:From: "Flavius Vedius Germa--------s" <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a>
::
:I have just posted the final piece of my legislative package to get our
:government system up and running; the Lex Vedia de Ratione Eligium

May I suggest

Lex Vedia de Suffragio

as the name instead? I cannot find any word "eligium". Suffragium means
"vote" or "voting" in comitia.

dealing
:with the actual vote-taking process. For now, I am limiting myself to
:internet-based voting, as I am unsure that any system of regular mail-based
:voting would ever be practical (at least if we don't want every vote taking
:more than two months to complete). Should we find the need to institute
:regular mail voting, the door is left open for such in the law I'm
:proposing.

I think that voting by mail will be necessary to include those citizens who
don't have internet access. But the onus is on those citizens now to make
that fact known to you.
:
:I would ask everyone's input on the law as proposed; suggestions as always
:are welcomed!

Great law.
:
:At this stage, my work as dictator is almost complete, and I expect to be
:laying down my office this weekend.

Really? Not going to stick around for a "trial" run of comitia-gathering?

:
:Valete,
:
:Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
:Dictator

Valete

Gaius Marius Merullus
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Subject:	CMM de Senatus Ultimo Consulto was New in the aerarium Saturnii
From:	"Gaius Marius Merullus" rmerullo@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:19:26 -0400

Salvete Dictator Flavi Vedi et alii

Well, that was an awfully big piece to stick in at the end, don't you think?

With all due respect, why did you decide to put this provision into the
constitution?

With these latest changes, the document seems to me to give the Senate the
power to cruise on without the comitia, almost as if you don't really
believe that we'll be able to elect people competent, or honorable enough to
act in good faith as magistrates...

Valete

Gaius Marius Merullus



:From: "Flavius Vedius Germa--------s" <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a>
:

:Also, I've made a couple of changes (once again, this should hopefully be
:the last) in the Constitution, specifically in the section on the Senate
:(paragraphs V.D., V.E., and V.F.). Please check them out and give me any
:feedback you think needs to be given.
:

:
:Valete,
:
:Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
:Dictator
:
:

Subject:	Candidatus pro rogatore was New in the aerarium Saturnii
From:	"Gaius Marius Merullus" rmerullo@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:32:41 -0400

Salvete Dictator Flavi Vedi et alii

I ask you to consider me as a candidate for a rogator office. I have the
qualifications that you list, as I have posted before. I very much want to
contribute to the success and growth of Nova Roma, and this is a function
that I believe I can fulfill well toward that end.

Valete

Gaius Marius Merullus



:From: "Flavius Vedius Germa--------s" <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a>
:
The only remaining tasks I see are a few
:final housekeeping decrees and the appointment of the rogatores (election
:officers). If you would be interested in filling this position (which
:requires regular access to the Internet and basic familiarity with
:spreadsheet software), please let me know. After I leave office, elections
:will be automatically triggered for the vacancies in the roster of
:magistrates; consul, plebeian aedile, and some of the vigintisexviri.
That's
:why it's going to be important to have the election officers in place right
:away. :-)
:
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:
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:Dictator
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Subject:	Re: CMM de Senatus Ultimo Consulto was New in the aerarium Saturnii
From:	"RCW" alexious@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:09:45 -0700

I dont believe that was the intention, C. Marius....again...we are following
ancient Rome's example in having that Senatus Ultimum Consultum. This was
not something that was just thought of. Granted it is Late Republican, but
it is steeped in the tradition of ancient Rome. I dont think every crisis
that Nova Roma faces, we should appoint a dictator. No insult intended on
our Honored Dictator Germanicus who has done a marvelous job. However, do
we want to resort to a dictatorship everytime we have a crises? No, I dont
htink that is the answer. Hence the creation of that addition.

L. Cornelius Sulla
Praetor Urbanus
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Subject: [novaroma] CMM de Senatus Ultimo Consulto was New in the aerarium
Saturnii


> From: "Gaius Marius Merullus" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a>
>
> Salvete Dictator Flavi Vedi et alii
>
> Well, that was an awfully big piece to stick in at the end, don't you
think?
>
> With all due respect, why did you decide to put this provision into the
> constitution?
>
> With these latest changes, the document seems to me to give the Senate the
> power to cruise on without the comitia, almost as if you don't really
> believe that we'll be able to elect people competent, or honorable enough
to
> act in good faith as magistrates...
>
> Valete
>
> Gaius Marius Merullus
>
>
>
> :From: "Flavius Vedius Germa--------s" <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a> > :
>
> :Also, I've made a couple of changes (once again, this should hopefully be
> :the last) in the Constitution, specifically in the section on the Senate
> :(paragraphs V.D., V.E., and V.F.). Please check them out and give me any
> :feedback you think needs to be given.
> :
>
> :
> :Valete,
> :
> :Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
> :Dictator
> :
> :
>
>
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Subject:	Re:CAE de Senatus Ultimo Consulto was New in the aerarium Saturnii
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:14:33 -0700

No. This is a bad idea. It is unneeded. It came up in the old Roma at a time when things
had already started to fall apart. It caused all sorts of trouble that bred more trouble
down the line. Just delete this one Germanicus. If it gets this bad, well... How many of
these things do you expect the People to stick around for?

C. Aelius Ericius.