Subject: Re: oneliners WAS alt.politics
From: Trekroner <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=189212192163127190172038109248062208071048" >trekroner@--------</a>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:03:38 +0200
From: Claudius Nigellus <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=219128113182248132130232066026192239248105163214013123152150172" >claudius--------llus@--------</a>

>>"Beware lest you walk in front of catapults" ? Where do you get these
>>little one-liners?
>
>Probably the same place I've seen them:
>"Latin for All Occasions" and "Latin for Even More Occasions",
>both by Henry Beard (Henricus Barbatus),
>ISBN's 0 00255383 X and 0 00 255134 9, respectively.
>Quite funny, and in legit Latin too!

Yup, that's the place. The "official" translation of the one above reads:
"If I were you, I wouldn't walk in front of any catapults"

With friendly regards


Lars Erik, Duke of Trekroner
Sovereign Principality of Corvinia

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ICQ: 22 62 76 01

Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?



Subject: Re: Eagle--August
From: jmath669642reng@--------)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:31:09 -0400 (EDT)
Salve, Consul Palladius;

Sir, I thank ou for your most kind post, and for your complimentary
remaks. The reason that I did not address the length of the suggested
articles submitted to Eagle, was that I do not wish to discourage any
cirizen who wishes to submit material. Based on the individual issue, I
can always serialize the submitted piece, so that the longer pieces may
be used as well.

However, you are correct in poiinting out that a 500 word article is the
easiest to deal with in general terms.

Vale, Consul Palladius;
Very Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!




Subject: Fwd: [loreskeep] Fw: Check out this site - more xtian insanity
From: "Tinnekke Bebout" tinnekke@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:00:54 GMT



>check out www.tencommandments.org. Everyone on this
>list, and several others I belong to would be in big trouble if this joker
>gets his way.
>
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Subject: Re: Garum experimentation
From: "RMerullo" rmerullo@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:39:04 -0400
Salvete Caie Aeli et alii



>From: Raz-------- <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a>
>

>
Mine is Asian made ("Thai Kitchen")

Mine is Thai too. I cannot remember the brand name at this moment.

and I've
>tried it on pot stickers, chow mein, salisbury steak, steamed potatoes.

I put about one teaspoon of it into a sautee based on 3 bulbs of garlic and
one large white onion, with a few ounces of tofu, some cauliflower,
mushrooms and a few slivers of pepperoni.

What are pot stickers?

The taste is
>SALT. I had to almost imagine any essence of fish.

I found that it had a very subtle flavor, in fact hard to detect in the
mixture that I made last night. I am going to double the dose next time and
eliminiate the pepperoni to try to make the quasigarum come out more.

This is made from anchovies, salt
>anchovies. Maybe it would be different if it is made form anchovies that
have not been
>salted down. Of course anchovies do not run all year and making it from the
salted ones
>would allow you to process it all year.
>Please keep us informed.

Shall do.
>
>Valete
>Ericius
Valete

Gaius Marius Merullus




Subject: Re: Fwd: [loreskeep] Fw: Check out this site - more xtian insanity
From: SFP55@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:45:22 EDT
In a message dated 8/11/1999 8:01:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
<a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=189176234185056182213038203004129208071" >tinnekke@--------</a> writes:

<< Everyone on this list, and several others I belong to would be in big
trouble if this joker gets his way. >>


Salvete!

You all have to remember that the law code, the Ten Commandments of the
Hebrews were set up by a Patriarchal society, probably inspired by other
societies living around them. They all have similar phrasing. Remember they
all were pastoral.

The biggie is the false idol phrase. The Hebrews were concerned that their
race would adopt other "gods" and lose their own identity. This was unique
in law
codes.

That being said, when the 10 became modernized, different interpretations
were attached to the code. And when the Christians adopted it, it caused
some concern.
Because the Christian code as mentioned in new treatment is pretty much
"brotherhood." That is "Love your neighbor as you love yourself." Later,
"Remember to keep God's day holy." was added.

Today's Christianity is completely different from the early one. It is
filled with agendas. So when a fanatic comes along with a claim that church
and state should be combined, he is going against the Bill of Rights, which
is in turn is against everything the U.S. stands for. I wouldn't be too
concerned.

Valete
Q. Fabius



Subject: Ten Commandments
From: jmath669642reng@--------)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:51:49 -0400 (EDT)
Ms. Bebout;

I wish to most respectfully point out to you that not all on this list
follow Roman Religio. I greatly respect the Roma Religio and those who
follow it, and have not made any comments regarding it since I have been
on this list, as I am here as a historian and student. But myself and
others are not of the Roman Religio and do not appreciate hearing our
beliefs being bashed .

I would hope to have the pleasure of the same courtesy that I extend to
others in regard to religious matters.

The Ten Commandments save for the first, is a simple set of rules that
all mankind, not only Romans would do well to read as they are nothing
less than a theme for conducting one's self in a decent and respectable
way. Change the name, omit the first item and you have a valuable set
of standards that would apply anywhere. Just because they were
developed and promulgated under Christianity, that doesn't mean they are
all bad. Christianity like the Roman Religio is a belief structure that
appeals to a certain segment of the population similar to Islam,
Bhuddism, and Catholicism / Protestantism, and many other "isms" in the
world today. I know that many people suffer the slings and arrows of
Christianity, but that is no reason not to respect the feelings of
fellow-citizens in Nova Roma who believe differently than you do. In
the last few weeks, I believe we have had quite enough of that!!!!

Not The List Coordinator;
Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!




Subject: Re: Ten Commandments
From: SFP55@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:14:07 EDT
In a message dated 8/11/1999 11:52:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> --------es:

<< I wish to most respectfully point out to you that not all on this list
follow Roman Religio. I greatly respect the Roma Religio and those who
follow it, and have not made any comments regarding it since I have been
on this list, as I am here as a historian and student. But myself and
others are not of the Roman Religio and do not appreciate hearing our
beliefs being bashed .

I would hope to have the pleasure of the same courtesy that I extend to
others in regard to religious matters.

The Ten Commandments save for the first, is a simple set of rules that
all mankind, not only Romans would do well to read as they are nothing
less than a theme for conducting one's self in a decent and respectable
way. Change the name, omit the first item and you have a valuable set
of standards that would apply anywhere. Just because they were
developed and promulgated under Christianity, that doesn't mean they are
all bad. Christianity like the Roman Religio is a belief structure that
appeals to a certain segment of the population similar to Islam,
Bhuddism, and Catholicism / Protestantism, and many other "isms" in the
world today. I know that many people suffer the slings and arrows of
Christianity, but that is no reason not to respect the feelings of
fellow-citizens in Nova Roma who believe differently than you do. In
the last few weeks, I believe we have had quite enough of that!!!!


Salve Marcus Minucius!
I do not think that Cypria meant to disrepect Christianity. However if you
do go to this site you will find that the maintainer has a zero tolerence
policy, and whose goal
is to combine the constitution of the US with rhe commandments.
If that was to happen, then I would agree with Cypria, our lifestyle here at
NR would undergo a change. I don't see it happening, however. Unlike this
guy, we at NR have a tolerance policy. Maybe he should check out our
website.
Vale
Q Fabius



Subject: Re: Ten Commandments
From: dean6886@--------)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:21:57 -0500 (CDT)

Well Audens, first off I didn't see anything in response derogotory
to Christian belief. The problem lies in that the webmaster of that
sight does not seem to be playing with a full deck within his
fanaticism. At least in one place he makes reference to his support in
genocide of atheists. There were a lot of other ramblings on heathen
peoples and practices and his own narrow view of how to impose his
belief structure on all peoples but to tell the truth after skimming
through the pages of his sight I saw that it was pretty much pointless
to do a serious study of all the content. Take a peek yourself if you'd
like- I believe this gentleman really has done his part in inciting
disgust in the average person.

Gaius Drusus Domitianus




Subject: Re: Fwd: [loreskeep] Fw: Check out this site - more xtian insanity
From: Dexippus@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:05:13 EDT
In --------ss--------d-------- 8/11/99 1:46:06 PM E--------rn D--------ght Time, <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------;
writes:

<< Today's Christianity is completely different from the early one. It is
filled with agendas. So when a fanatic comes along with a claim that church
and state should be combined, he is going against the Bill of Rights, which
is in turn is against everything the U.S. stands for. I wouldn't be too
concerned. >>

But when you consider that in the June of this year, the U.S. House of
Representatives passed a juvenile justice bill with an amendment (H.Amdt.200)
allowing the display of the Ten Commandments in public shcools, this is cause
for concern. The bill also carried amendments which would deny attorney's
fees to people who successfully challenge public school's violations of
church-state seperation. These provisions make it highly unlikely the bill
will pass conference committees as is, but look how far it has gotten already.

--Dexippus



Subject: Re: Ten Commandments
From: Dexippus@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:09:52 EDT
In a message dated 8/11/99 2:53:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> --------es:

<< I wish to most respectfully point out to you that not all on this list
follow Roman Religio. I greatly respect the Roma Religio and those who
follow it, and have not made any comments regarding it since I have been
on this list, as I am here as a historian and student. But myself and
others are not of the Roman Religio and do not appreciate hearing our
beliefs being bashed . >>

Audens, no one is bashing your religion here. And I believe that listing the
ten commandments in public places is as serious a threat to christians as it
is to non-christians.

The U.S. is based upon a seperation of church and state. And regardless of
how well meaning the ten commandments may be, not everyone subscribes to that
ethic as "The Ten Commandments". How do you feel a buddhist or hindu or
pagan would feel attending a school that fully displayed these commandments
and shund his/her own ethical teachings? And why these commandments? Why
not the Roman Virtues? Or the 4 Noble Truths of Buddhism? Or whatever?

The point is clear...KEEP RELIGION OUT OF STATE AFFAIRS!

--Dexippus



Subject: Re: Ten Commandments
From: Marius Fimbria legion6@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:55:43 -0500 (CDT)
Salvete omnes...

Neither did I read any 'bashing' into Cypria's sharing of that Web
site. There are extremists of all faiths, and Christianity has
certainly been no exception (I've been roughed up by too many 'fundies'
myself to have any illusions about that). We can admit this without
demeaning either religion as a whole or the Christian faith in
particular. Indeed, the last time someone posted a heads-up of this
nature (regarding Rep. Barr vs. the military Pagan community), I was
highly-appreciative of the tip--as it gave concerned Christians, no
less than concerned Pagans, the chance to speak up for religious
freedom for *all* people of faith.

Fear not, gentle readers--if I ever *do* see any religious 'bashing' on
this List, regardless of what faith is on the receiving end, I shall
certainly speak sharp words to the offending party; if this does not
result in an end to the thing (humans being so much less tractable than
puppy-dogs, after all!) >({|;-), other measures will be taken as
needed, hopefully *before* the communal blood-pressure gets
out-of-hand.

I am prepared to be fierce about this. After a long dry season we are
finally regaining some sense of community around here, and I shall be
most vigorous in its defense. This is the pledge of Marius, who read
too many stories of knights and fealty in his youth, and reads them
still--to the betterment of his Roman sense of Duty!

Yours under the Eagles,
************************************************************
Lucius Marius Fimbria, |\=/|
Curator Sermonem/ListMod ( ~ 6 )~~~----...,,__
<a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a> >[SPQR]< `\*/, ``}`^~``,,, \ \
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and Citizen of Nova Roma | | / )\ \| /
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is in the heart of his master.' /./..=' /./..'




Subject: Re: Ten Commandments
From: Kyrene Ariadne kyreneariadne@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:38:10 -0700 (PDT)
--- James Mathe--------lt;a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> --------e:

Salvete,

> Ms. Bebout;
> I wish to most respectfully point out to you that not all on this list
> follow Roman Religio. I greatly respect the Roma Religio and those who
> follow it, and have not made any comments regarding it since I have been
> on this list, as I am here as a historian and student. But myself and
> others are not of the Roman Religio and do not appreciate hearing our
> beliefs being bashed .
> I would hope to have the pleasure of the same courtesy that I extend to
> others in regard to religious matters.
> The Ten Commandments save for the first, is a simple set of rules that
> all mankind,

I would respectfully disagree. Not only are there rules in the Ten
Commandments that my religion does not agree with, but to speak up and say, "I
don't agree with them" is *not* bashing another person's religion.

Freedom of religion also includes freedom *from* religion. Neither the state
nor the federal government should have the right to tell anyone how to worship.

I am not Wiccan, therefore I do not follow the Rede.
I am neither Christian nor Jewish, therefore I do not follow the Ten
Commandments.
I am not a Muslim, therefore I do not follow the Koran.

I am, however, partial to Buddhist moral values, and towards the values that my
Irish ancestors and ancient Hellenes had.

I think this is one occasion where people should agree to disagree, and keep
religion away from politics. There are too many people masquerading as "moral
policemen" trying to win votes in the US government, IMHO. Morals should come
from home.



Valete et khairete,


Andrea Gladia Kyrinia




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Subject: Re: Lindsey Davis novels (was Re: Camulod Chronicles)
From: Jenni Hunt moonloon@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:06:50 -0400
At 01:03 AM 8/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I beg pardon, but Part 2 from chapters 20 through 38 takes place in Britain.
>It has been a few years since I read it but I still have my paperback and
>looked again just to be sure. I was mistaken though in that most of the
>'action' does take place in Roma.

My mistake -- I was thinking of the _Iron Hand_.

(No one ever did offer a translation for OOPS! in Latin, btw . . . )

Luna



Subject: Re: Ten Commandments
From: "Tinnekke Bebout" tinnekke@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:51:57 GMT
Salve Audens,

I will address you by your name as you forgot to address me by mine. I did
not post this site to Christian bash. I could do so myself did I choose. I
posted it because it alarmed me. I know there are Christians who are
citizens, aside from a couple notable exceptions, they have been good and
gracious people. I believe it is in the interests of people of good will of
all faiths to know that manner of madmen are out there because, as my
ancestors learned at the start of WWII, it is easy to dismiss them as
trivial people with no power, but it is that lack of serious note when they
are small that allows them to gain the power to enforce their wishes.

Vale

Cypria




Subject: Re: Ten Commandments
From: jmath669642reng@--------)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:54:13 -0400 (EDT)
Q. Fabius;

I agree that the separation of church and state in the U.S. is one of
the fundamental basics of our government, as is the freedom of religion.
I didn't get tat deeply into the site as my WebTV is acting up
aroundlight colors, and the vibration is getting so bad that I can
hardly read the script unless it is a dark background.

If in fact, I was mistaken about Cypria's intent, then I most freely
apologize. Perhaps in my growing old age I am also growing intolerant
(<Grin>)!!!

Marcus Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!




Subject: Re: Ten Commandments
From: "Tinnekke Bebout" tinnekke@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:55:45 GMT
Salve Q Fabius
you hit the nail on the head and I thank you.

Vale
Cypria




Subject: International Law in Archaic Rome
From: dean6886@--------)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:14:25 -0500 (CDT)

I would like to ask if anyone else has read this book. About a year
ago I became interested in becoming a Fetial priest. Upon actually
reading this book( and as far as I know the only primary resourse on the
Sodales Fetiales) I found quite a number of fundamental problems that
would make it extremely difficult to recreate in modern times. I was
quite discouraged by this and kept on putting it off to the side in the
hopes of maybe divine inspiration, yet alone I think this is well beyond
any skill of mine.

The primary area of conflict comes from that even in ancient times
the fetials were being phased out or so I gather. The collegia was
originally designed to interact with other fetials of the other latin
tribes and thus all rituals seem to be associated for that function. As
Rome grew and expanded their territories beyond those Latin tribes that
did not have fetial priests it appears as if the collegia was being
phased out to be replaced by official ambassadors or rather a military
commander that acted as a representative. I am using broad
generalizations in this as I am no expert in historical fact in this
category, but I would like some input from some other interested
parties-- specifically ANY pontiff or any citizen that would like to get
in a lively conversation about this.

Has anyone else actually read the book? I did think that no
matter what it gave great insight as far as how Rome interacted with its
neighbors in everyday circumstances/foriegn affairs. I guess my concern
is whether as Nova Roma grows we establish the Fetials as a modern
collegia in a much altered form or we go toward official ambassadors as
a specific civil office. Anyone wish to get involved?

Gaius Drusus Domitianus




Subject: Re: Ten Commandments
From: jmath669642reng@--------)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:15:10 -0400 (EDT)
Sorry All. I have already apologized once, but I will do it again just
to make sure everyone is aware. Yes, I am aware of how the T.C. came
about, Yes, I am aware that they are not exactly the same as other
religious virtues, and Yes I now realize that Cypria did not intend any
religion bashing. For that I am sorry.

I do have to say though, that the post about the T.C. got a lot more
response than my offer to host an NR get-together next year, except for
one individual who advised against it, because I live on the East Coast
and it would be self-serving of me to have such a get-together where I
live. Oh well, maybe in another year or so, I will try again.

Marcus Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!




Subject: Re: International Law in Archaic Rome
From: "RCW" alexious@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:23:58 -0700
I havent read that book, but I have borrowed and am on the last chapter of
War and Imperalism in Republican Rome. It breifly discusses that issue,
regarding the role and function of the Fetial Priest and its eventual disuse
in Republican Rome. Check it out...its an enjoyable book.

L. Cornelius Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: Dean Troy <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=114056113185089095081021203102129208071" >dean6886@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 5:14 PM
Subject: [novaroma] International Law in Archaic Rome


> From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=114056113185089095081021203102129208071" >dean6886@--------</a> (Dean Troy)
>
>
> I would like to ask if anyone else has read this book. About a year
> ago I became interested in becoming a Fetial priest. Upon actually
> reading this book( and as far as I know the only primary resourse on the
> Sodales Fetiales) I found quite a number of fundamental problems that
> would make it extremely difficult to recreate in modern times. I was
> quite discouraged by this and kept on putting it off to the side in the
> hopes of maybe divine inspiration, yet alone I think this is well beyond
> any skill of mine.
>
> The primary area of conflict comes from that even in ancient times
> the fetials were being phased out or so I gather. The collegia was
> originally designed to interact with other fetials of the other latin
> tribes and thus all rituals seem to be associated for that function. As
> Rome grew and expanded their territories beyond those Latin tribes that
> did not have fetial priests it appears as if the collegia was being
> phased out to be replaced by official ambassadors or rather a military
> commander that acted as a representative. I am using broad
> generalizations in this as I am no expert in historical fact in this
> category, but I would like some input from some other interested
> parties-- specifically ANY pontiff or any citizen that would like to get
> in a lively conversation about this.
>
> Has anyone else actually read the book? I did think that no
> matter what it gave great insight as far as how Rome interacted with its
> neighbors in everyday circumstances/foriegn affairs. I guess my concern
> is whether as Nova Roma grows we establish the Fetials as a modern
> collegia in a much altered form or we go toward official ambassadors as
> a specific civil office. Anyone wish to get involved?
>
> Gaius Drusus Domitianus
>
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Subject: Gatherings
From: "RCW" alexious@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:37:04 -0700
What get together Audens? I must have missed that....thats a great idea....
:) You should plan it. Its a great thing when we all can get together. I
forgot who mentioned it....Venator?? MariusFimbria?? Ericius?? I do
apologize that I cannot recall who thought abouthaving a 5 year anniversary
meeting somewhere in the MidWest? I think thats a great idea! But its the
small intimate gatherings where we all can get to know each ohter in a
non-e-mail based environment. I know that the people I have spoken too, on
the phone, or have seen me in person, have a different perspective than
those who only get their impressions just via e-mail. You should Plan it,
Audens....its an excellent Idea! :)

L. Cornelius Sulla
Praetor Urbanus


> I do have to say though, that the post about the T.C. got a lot more
> response than my offer to host an NR get-together next year, except for
> one individual who advised against it, because I live on the East Coast
> and it would be self-serving of me to have such a get-together where I
> live. Oh well, maybe in another year or so, I will try again.
>
> Marcus Audens





Subject: Re: Gatherings
From: Steven Robinson amgunn@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:09:30 -0700
Salvete et Hailsa Omnes!

If you plan it for next year Audens, I'll come to visit. Unless the Roman
gathering is the same weekend as mine own Faith Community's Althing. If
you'd like, I'll let you know the dates for that so we can gather as Romans,
also.

RCW wrote:
>
> What get together Audens? I must have missed that....thats a great idea....
> :) You should plan it. Its a great thing when we all can get together. I
> forgot who mentioned it....Venator?? MariusFimbria?? Ericius?? I do
> apologize that I cannot recall who thought abouthaving a 5 year anniversary
> meeting somewhere in the MidWest? I think thats a great idea! But its the
> small intimate gatherings where we all can get to know each ohter in a
> non-e-mail based environment. I know that the people I have spoken too, on
> the phone, or have seen me in person, have a different perspective than
> those who only get their impressions just via e-mail. You should Plan it,
> Audens....its an excellent Idea! :)
>
> L. Cornelius Sulla
> Praetor Urbanus
>

It was me that tendered an invitation to Omaha, Nebraska for a Fifth Year
Celebration. I was figuring June, before it gets too hot. Also, I thought
early summer, to get past any chance of really foul spring weather. More
details in the future!

In Amicus - Venator



Subject: Re: TWINS
From: "RCW" alexious@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:14:21 -0700
Congratulations... :) May all of our Gods bless your friend!

L. Cornelius Sulla
Praetor Urbanus
----- Original Message -----
From: <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=219044020185078198015199190036129" >cfinne@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 7:54 PM
Subject: [novaroma] TWINS


> From: <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=219044020185078198015199190036129" >cfinne@--------</a>
>
> Salvete,Romani!Merlinia,Guardian of Twins,sends
> Greetings!
> Today,during the Eclipse,my best Friend,Electra
> Medici,produced twin Sons,Armand Jeremiah and
> William Bruno, at 11:57am and 12:04pm. An auspicious
> beginning.May all of us and Nova Roma Look to a
> new, strong,Future.
> Vale! --M.
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Subject: Re: Fwd: [loreskeep] Fw: Check out this site - more xtian insanity
From: "Darth Vilmur; Dark Lord of The Sith" darth_vilmur@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:44:25 -0700
jumpin' jehosefats....the cat that wrote this page is really off his goddamn
rocker.
i have heard a lot of stupid things before but when these christ loving hate
mongers who claim to follow the prince of peace and then call for the death of
everyone they do not like...kinda gives me the freekin' giggles.
also, they ask for someone to prove the big bang theory with out fancy double
talk and rhetoric.....but when are asked to prove the baseless claims of thier
backwards religion they simply say the bible says so and that is good enough
for them................this blind faith is enough to drive me to drinking
matter of fact i think i am gonna go have a beer
californius
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Tinnekke Bebout wrote:

> From: "Tinnekke Bebout" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=189176234185056182213038203004129208071" >tinnekke@--------</a>
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> >check out www.tencommandments.org. Everyone on this
> >list, and several others I belong to would be in big trouble if this joker
> >gets his way.
> >
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Subject: Re: Ten Commandments
From: "Darth Vilmur; Dark Lord of The Sith" darth_vilmur@--------
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:49:37 -0700
>
> The Ten Commandments save for the first, is a simple set of rules that
> all mankind, not only Romans would do well to read as they are nothing
> less than a theme for conducting one's self in a decent and respectable
> way.

it is not the ten commandments that is the problem....it is the idea that
all christiandom is the basis of western law and civilization. it is also
the attacks by "christians" (i really don't have a problem with people who
follow this religion, only the ones who feel rights should only apply to
christians)who state that atheists and heathens are automattically satanists
by association...and there for under old hebraic law should be ostracized
and turned to pillars of salt and what not.

the opening of the ten commandments page had a blurb in the rolling headline
that was something to the effect of non-christians being criminals and being
brought to justice.....that is the mentality these attacks are against

californius