Subject: Re: candidacy of Lucius Anneus
From: Decius Iunius Palladius amcgrath@--------
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 02:14:28 -0400 (EDT)



On S--------4 Sep 1999 <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=085056131063158209025056228219114253071048139" >RexM--------us@--------</--------; wrote:

> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=085056131063158209025056228219114253071048139" >RexM--------us@--------</--------;
>
> Salve Tiberius Claudius!
>
> According to the edictum posted at the aerarium, candidacies for aedilis
> plebeium had to be declared until August 23rd at the latest. Lucius Anneus
> posted his message on August 26th...a bit too late.
>

Salve Marce Marci! Your interpretation is correct. Unfortunately, he did
not announce soon enough. That will not prevent him from running in any
later races, however.

Vale,

Decius Iunius Palladius,
Consul

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Subject: Nerdes? Nerdi? Nerdae?
From: "Nicolaus Moravius" n_moravius@--------
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 03:04:36 PDT
Salvete Quiritibus Latitoribusque! Plurimam salutem!
(Health to you all, Romans and Lurkers! Many Greetings!)

Sic scripsit Merullus:
(Thus wrote 'Blackbird')(or the 'Sea Carp'):

>Salvete Nicolaue Moravi et alii
>
>Please keep these jokes coming. Every time I read one, I feel more secure
>about my own normalcy, knowing that there is at least one person out there
>nerdier than I am (does the word nerdy mean anything to British people?)
>:).

Et ego respondeo: (and I reply):

- no, Merulle (O Blackbird, O Sea-Carp). We Brits know nothing of these
'Nerds' of which you speak. What are they in Latin, please? :-)

Valete bene (be well strong),

Vado.




Subject: Re: yea or nay on candidates
From: LSergAust@--------
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 07:36:40 EDT
Well thanks for so graphically illustrating my point!

Too bad you failed to "get it" yourself. Maybe you should re-read the
thread.

"Whiz-kid" indeed! :-)

Vale,

L. Sergius Aust.

<a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a> wrote:

>From: "Flavius Vedius Germa--------s" <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a> >
>Salve,
>
>> I think Germanicus still has his troops in a square. I never asked for
>> the option to vote against anybody -- just for the option to not vote for
>> them without being disenfranchised from the rest of the issues on the
>> ballot.
>
>Do you actually read these emails, or do you just criticize anything I say
>automatically?
>
>I wasn't quoting your message, whiz-kid. I was quoting Maria Fimbria, who
>_did_ suggest an option to vote against candidates. I try not to pay
>attention to your posts any more; I already know what's going to be in them;
>"Germanicus is wrong!"
>
>If you're going to simply attack everything I post, at least get your facts
>straight.
>
>Vale,
>
>Flavius Vedius Germanicus


certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse.

(You know, Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.)




Subject: In the latest Explorator
From: "M. Papirius Justus" papirius@--------
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 09:26:03 -0400
Items of interest ...


ARCHAEOLOGY'S TOP 100

Here it is ... the moment you've been waiting for! We've started the
countdown from your votes on the 100 most significant archaeological
discoveries. We begin with:

99. Pisa Ships
100. Lake Nemi Ships

The home page of this feature is at:

<a href="http://web.idirect.com/~atrium/arky100.html" target="_top" >http://web.idirect.com/~atrium/arky100.html</a>
<url:<a href="http://web.idirect.com/~atrium/arky100.html" target="_top" >http://web.idirect.com/~atrium/arky100.html</a>>


THIS DAY IN ANCIENT HISTORY

Dedication of the Temple of Jupiter Stator
Ludi Romani begin

The archives of this Atrium feature have also been put up in case you
missed the events of the past week.

<a href="http://web.idirect.com/~atrium/thisday.html" target="_top" >http://web.idirect.com/~atrium/thisday.html</a>
<url:<a href="http://web.idirect.com/~atrium/thisday.html" target="_top" >http://web.idirect.com/~atrium/thisday.html</a>>


]|[ M. Papirius Justus ]|[ <a href="http://web.idirect.com/~atrium" target="_top" >http://web.idirect.com/~atrium</a> ]|[



Subject: Gauls
From: jmath669642reng@--------)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:41:07 -0400 (EDT)
Vercingetorix;

I have read your comments regarding NR and I must agree there is an
alarming tendency to treat our members harshly, and with defiance
instead of sweet reason. I have been fortunate in that I have not
received much of it, but others around me certainly have, and it does
appall me.

I have long been the believer that one of the major differences in an
internet community such as this is the basic difference between those
who have through inexperience or stubborness have the "me first"
attitude that precludes serious consideration of an opposing point of
view, and the increasing awareness with experience and education, that
the more you know about a subject or an ideal the less sure that you are
because you have been made aware of how much more there is to find out.
The younger and less experienced people will dispute this strongly I am
sure (as I did when I was a tad) and the more experienced will certainly
recognize the feeling.

Having said All that, and listening carefully to your words, I was
curious as to your plan to skirt the problems of NR and reach an accord
in your micro-nation efforts more in keeping with your desires, and I
suspect the desires of a lot of NR Citizens. You must have some plans
along that line, to counter what you see in NR as undesirable, and I
would be much in your debt would you be willing to share them.

I suppose there will be those who will say there is nothing wrong with
NR and those who will take the exact opposite view. I hold to neither
as I believe there are many very good people here, as well as some who
have not yet learned the necessityof living peacefully wiithin a group
or institution. However, some sort of polite obligation should be
imposed, but how to do that is the problem. I am reminded of the Royal
Navy Rules in the Officer's Mess at the time of the War of 1812, that
did not allow for the discussion of Women, Religion as these two topics
were the greatest cause of duelling among young officers. The purpose
of the rules was to keep the peace in this institution over long periods
of time, and worked very well, since the newer members of the Officers
Mess were taught and / or admodished by the olders members. We no
longer have these conflicts becase duelling is no longer an accepted
social attribute, but the basic problem remains..

I do not mean to say that those topics should be banned today as they
are too important to NR as a whole. But perhaps something along the
lines of the following::

--No use of abusive language or denigrating "names" on-lis";

--The acceptance of a person's word as truth until the opposite can be
proven;

--The understanding that those new to the list should temper comments in
relation to the purpose of the list and those embarked thereon;

--Remember that all on the list are potential friends and any posts
differing in that logic should be taken "off-list".

I'm sure that there are others, but these come immediately to mind. I
would be much interested in your views of them, and of your ideas how to
deal in the future with 200+ members instead of four, from varying age
groups, all walks of life, and of varying opinions as to the necessity
and value of dealing fairly and politely with others...

This inquiry is quite sincere and not critical in any way. As a student
of history, I am quite impressed with the Celtic World and being
Scottish, Irish and Welsh, and having visited all three lands as well as
France and Spain, I have some small idea of their eminence in the long
ago world.

Vale with Respect;
Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!




Subject: Re: translations on the web
From: jmath669642reng@--------)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 12:06:56 -0400 (EDT)
I thank you very much for your very informative message. I see that
perhaps my son have evaluated the specific site over it's actual
ability, however with some effort it could be used I should think by a
determined correspondent. I shall save the information and hopefully
when my new "rig" arrives I will find some use for it.

Meanwhile the remainder of this message is directed to the Portugese
speaking peoples on this net, that I would be willing to take the time
to translate relatively simple messages back and forth, even though my
abilities are very limited in that regard, with your excellent
assistance. Be assured that I will make mistakes, be assured that I
will get things wrong, however also be assured that the errors will not
be deliberate, and we all get better with practice and I will promise to
try my best. Those of you who understand english, if you would relay
this to the others in Portugese, I would be much obliged.

Vale; and Respectfully
Marcus Minucius Audens.

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!




Subject: Re: Seeking citizenship
From: "Sacro Barese Impero sbi" sacro_barese_imp@--------
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 09:10:18 PDT
No Richard, there isn't a protocol: you must choose your gens in order to
the components of the Family, the ideology, the Divines, etc. like to you!

If you want my Gens, the Gens Apulia, is open to everybody. We are the
citizens of Sacro Barese Impero too, and we are in the South Italy: you can
ask us everything from Italy about your studies: the Apulia (the region of
Puglia) has a lot of testimoniances of roman and Greek culture.

Waiting you, Vale.

Franciscus Apulus Caesar
Consul of Sacro Barese Impero


>Fro--------ichard Persky <a href="/post/novaro--------rotectID=165075091007093190218149000248124208071048" >ouroboros@--------</a>
>Reply-To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
>To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
>Subject: [novaroma] Seeking citizenship
>Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 20:58:15 -0500
>
>Fro--------ichard Persky <a href="/post/novaro--------rotectID=165075091007093190218149000248124208071048" >ouroboros@--------</a>
>
>Salvete, omnes!
>
> I intend to apply for Nova Roman citizenship once such
>applications are once again being accepted, and have some questions
>about the process. In particular, is there an established protocol
>for choosing or being chosen by a gens?
>
> I suppose that a brief self-introduction is also in order;
>I'm a student in my fourth year (of five, and hopefully no longer) at
>the University of Texas at Austin, majoring in Classics; my chief
>academic interest is history and historiography, and I'm trying to
>put off the decision to specialize in Greece or Rome as long as
>possible. :) I discovered Nova Roma while searching for Classical
>Pagan resources on the WWW.
>
> Valete,
> Richard
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Subject: Re: Translation on the Web
From: jmath669642reng@--------)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 12:29:19 -0400 (EDT)
Vado; Thank you for your informative reply. I much appreciate it, and
as soon as I get my new"rig" it is now resting in my son' house about
50 miles from here and hopefully it will arrive in the next few days, at
which time I can take "your test" and see how it comes out.

I do not intend to undertake this task in a vacuum. I would expect that
the Portuguese speaking members of NR wil respond to my interest in
them, and those who understand English to assist. If in fact I find
that they are not interested, then I will not be able to continue the
project alone. When I visited Spain and Portugal the people there were
very helpful as long as I was willing to learn something of the language
and their culture. I am relying upon the same curtousey here in order
to get them onto the net, so we may hear some ideas from other parts of
the world.

Marcus Municius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!




Subject: Re: Re: List Language
From: jmath669642reng@--------)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 12:41:25 -0400 (EDT)
M Papirius Justus;

By all means send me a brochure!!!
Is the brochure on the net or do you need a Snail Mail address?

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!




Subject: Re: Re: [Barbarians]
From: jmath669642reng@--------)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 13:02:31 -0400 (EDT)
Vercingetorix2;

You are quite correct that I am not technically up to date in the region
of Computer networks. The WebTV while certainly not the sophisticated
element that my friends enjoy has been suffiient for my family for a
couple of years now. It allows the sharing of ideas and communication
between my wife and myself and our friends. It provides some insight in
to the growing world of communication.

However, since I carry on a fairly substansive schedule of re-enactment,
I do not have a great deal of time to "surf the web" for it's own sake.
As the Commandrer of my own Unit (U.S. Topographical Engineers -CW) I am
somewhat tken up during the week and week-ends in event arrangements and
custom mapping.

I regret that you could not contact me on Netscape, but then not only do
I not know what it is, I'm not even sure I got the spelling right!!!

I will endeavor to be mor accesible in the future, but I beg that you
will not expect me to be more conversant in a line of technology that I
barely tolerate rather than excel in. (Grin)

Marcus Minucius Audens.

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!




Subject: Re: Re-Enactment
From: jmath669642reng@--------)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 14:06:42 -0400 (EDT)
Jenni Hunt;

Well,I haven't had an overwhelming esponse for a get-togther in New
Englad and just a very moderate response for a get-togther n New Jersey.
The Commander of the XXIVth Legio has volunteered to take the lead in
arranging an event in New Jersey, bt has warned that it will not be
cheap. I would imagine that he would want to have some idea, as I
would who wouls be willing to attend. Since I got thre responses out of
the membership for my efforts I tend to think that there is little
interest for such.

In regard to the number and names of those in the North East Province, I
have asked that question of the Pro-Consul of the Province on a couple
of occasions. He has indicated previously that the lists were not
complete, but since the voting for the latest election seems to be
going well, perhaps that situation has changed. I will ask him again.
I would doubt that an organized get-ogether will happen unless there is
a better response. Perhaps a small local visit is a better idea. As
soon as I get the information from Cassius, we'll kick it around!

Marcus Municius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!




Subject: Re: Announcement from the rogatores
From: Dexippus@--------
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:29:18 EDT
In --------ss--------d-------- 9/3/99 5:02:45 PM EST, <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246033014165012132015098190036129" >SDmtwi@--------</--------; writes:

<< I strongly urge those of you who have not yet voted to do so. Freedom,
like
muscle, increases with exercise and wanes with neglect. >>

However, when one is running un-opposed and there is no choice but to vote
for that person, the idea of a vote becomes mute. Vote or not vote, the
candidate is elected.

On an unrelated thread...since I have been deleted posts left and right to
just keep up with the day-to-day, I may have missed this. But I was told
from a reliable source (who shall be nameless) that magistrates no longer
have to take an oath of allegiance to the Gods of Rome?

Can someone confirm this and explain the reasoning? Considering that NR was
set up to emulate that of Roma Antiqua and all the fuss in the past about
keeping as close to the ancients as possible, where does the logic, reason,
and purpose of this stand?

--Dexippus



Subject: Re: Announcement from the rogatores
From: "RCW" alexious@--------
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 18:47:58 -0700
Salvete Dex and others...

That is correct the Oath was never required to begin with, actually.
Considering it was never incorporated in either the Old Constitution or the
new one for that matter. In essence it was just there. However, to
reassure everyone, once formally invested in the position as Consul, I plan,
with Consul Decius Iunius Palladius to draft a new Oath and plan to
incorporate it as a lex. Thereby requiring all future magistrates to state
the Oath.

L. Cornelius Sulla
Consul Elect et Senator
----- Original Message -----
From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------;
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Announcement from the rogatores


> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------;
>
> In --------ss--------d-------- 9/3/99 5:02:45 PM EST, <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246033014165012132015098190036129" >SDmtwi@--------</--------; writes:
>
> << I strongly urge those of you who have not yet voted to do so. Freedom,
> like
> muscle, increases with exercise and wanes with neglect. >>
>
> However, when one is running un-opposed and there is no choice but to vote
> for that person, the idea of a vote becomes mute. Vote or not vote, the
> candidate is elected.
>
> On an unrelated thread...since I have been deleted posts left and right to
> just keep up with the day-to-day, I may have missed this. But I was told
> from a reliable source (who shall be nameless) that magistrates no longer
> have to take an oath of allegiance to the Gods of Rome?
>
> Can someone confirm this and explain the reasoning? Considering that NR
was
> set up to emulate that of Roma Antiqua and all the fuss in the past about
> keeping as close to the ancients as possible, where does the logic,
reason,
> and purpose of this stand?
>
> --Dexippus
>
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