| Subject: |
Re: Survey |
| From: |
"Darth Vilmur; Dark Lord of The Sith" darth_vilmur@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 03 Oct 1999 00:15:16 -0700 |
|
this is way off subject(i think)
but i was thinking of our unity as a people. i know that in the past
several questions regarding sovreinty (sp?) have been raised.
this brought about thoughts of the jehova's witness' and assyrians.
these are peoples who exists as cultures with in many states; they also
retain seperate identities from those who surround them.
i was thinking that perhaps we should inbfluence the use of (and teaching
of) latin as a language for the use of nova romans.
and also the establishment (re-establishment of) roman ideals( ie. virtues)
and way of life as a nation with out a nation basis, as used by this
religion and culture......just one of my hair brained schemes though
let me know what you think
californius
founder of http:\\www.angelfire.com\ca3\OLYMPUS
Temple Of Olympus
Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote:
> From: Lucius Corn--------s Sulla <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a>
>
> Salvete Omnes...
>
> Yesterday I sent a post that said a survey I was completing will be
> completed within a week....well...due to a long nite...I am about done
> with it...and hopefully everyone, individually, will have the Survey by
> Monday. The reason for the delay is that I am sending it to everyone
> individually, based upon the subscribes of the Nova Roma Onelist
> subscriber list. I would like to have them back to me by next Monday.
> As the Survey is currently its about 25 questions. And I just wanted to
> thank everyone now for their participation.
>
> L. Cornelius Sulla
> Consul
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: Survey |
| From: |
"Darth Vilmur; Dark Lord of The Sith" darth_vilmur@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 03 Oct 1999 00:17:17 -0700 |
|
sorry, <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/OLYMPUS" target="_top" >http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/OLYMPUS</a>
i always get the slashes confused....
Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote:
> From: Lucius Corn--------s Sulla <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a>
>
> Salvete Omnes...
>
> Yesterday I sent a post that said a survey I was completing will be
> completed within a week....well...due to a long nite...I am about done
> with it...and hopefully everyone, individually, will have the Survey by
> Monday. The reason for the delay is that I am sending it to everyone
> individually, based upon the subscribes of the Nova Roma Onelist
> subscriber list. I would like to have them back to me by next Monday.
> As the Survey is currently its about 25 questions. And I just wanted to
> thank everyone now for their participation.
>
> L. Cornelius Sulla
> Consul
>
>
|
| Subject: |
Re: Survey |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 03 Oct 1999 00:50:28 -0700 |
|
Thank you..for your input....I will definately add that to your portion of the
Survey..but..well the Survey hasnt gone out yet....right now it is hovering
between 25-30 Questions...and is about ready to go out starting tomorrow.
L. Cornelius Sulla
Consul
"Darth Vilmur; Dark Lord of The Sith" wrote:
<-------- size=-1 color="#008000">> From: "Darth Vilmur; Dark Lord o--------e Sith" <a hre--------post/novaroma?protectID=114166091165042237215056001163243012136219139046209" >darth_vilmur@--------</a>
>
> this is way off subject(i think)
> but i was thinking of our unity as a people. i know that in the past
> several questions regarding sovreinty (sp?) have been raised.
> this brought about thoughts of the jehova's witness' and assyrians.
> these are peoples who exists as cultures with in many states; they also
> retain seperate identities from those who surround them.
>
> i was thinking that perhaps we should inbfluence the use of (and teaching
> of) latin as a language for the use of nova romans.
>
> and also the establishment (re-establishment of) roman ideals( ie. virtues)
> and way of life as a nation with out a nation basis, as used by this
> religion and culture......just one of my hair brained schemes though
>
> let me know what you think
> californius
> founder of http:\\www.angelfire.com\ca3\OLYMPUS
> Temple Of Olympus
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote:
>
> > From: Lucius Corn--------s Sulla <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a>
> >
> > Salvete Omnes...
> >
> > Yesterday I sent a post that said a survey I was completing will be
> > completed within a week....well...due to a long nite...I am about done
> > with it...and hopefully everyone, individually, will have the Survey by
> > Monday. The reason for the delay is that I am sending it to everyone
> > individually, based upon the subscribes of the Nova Roma Onelist
> > subscriber list. I would like to have them back to me by next Monday.
> > As the Survey is currently its about 25 questions. And I just wanted to
> > thank everyone now for their participation.
> >
> > L. Cornelius Sulla
> > Consul
> >
> >
>
>
|
| Subject: |
Military Augury |
| From: |
"Nicolaus Moravius" n_moravius@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 03 Oct 1999 04:03:21 PDT |
|
Salvete!
Question for our Augures and Miles:
Assuming that the building of military istallations were considered
sufficiently important by the inauguration of a templum, but that the
military (as always) tends to be rather mechanical in its official religious
obserance, does anyone know (or will anyone make an educated guess) whether
unfavourable auguries for the erection of (say) a fortress on a prime and
strategically critical site, were simply ignored, or (somehow) never
occurred?
I'm thinking about the potential conflict of two doctrines, here: that of
pietas religiosa versus military expediency.
Valete bene,
Vado.
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| Subject: |
Re: Military Augury |
| From: |
DTibbe2926@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:15:18 EDT |
|
In a message dated 03/10/99 12:03:26 GMT Daylight Time,
<a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=091089014007127031215056228219114187071048139" >n_moravius@--------</a> writes:
<< Assuming that the building of military istallations were considered
sufficiently important by the inauguration of a templum, but that the
military (as always) tends to be rather mechanical in its official religious
obserance, does anyone know (or will anyone make an educated guess) whether
unfavourable auguries for the erection of (say) a fortress on a prime and
strategically critical site, were simply ignored, or (somehow) never
occurred? >>
Intriguing question.
Someone certainly either A) ignored the omens or B) uset the gods when the
fortress at Burrium (Usk) was built. It spent a lot of its existence
underwater from flooding. The move 10 miles downstream to Isca (Caerleon)
cured the problem.
Severus
|
| Subject: |
Californius' ideas was Survey |
| From: |
"Gaius Marius Merullus" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:25:02 -0400 |
|
Salvete Californi et alii
It's neither off-topic nor hare-brained. What you say is entirely valid in
my view.
:From: "Darth Vilmur; Dark Lord o--------e Sith" <a hre--------post/novaroma?protectID=114166091165042237215056001163243012136219139046209" >darth_vilmur@--------</a>
:
:this is way off subject(i think)
:but i was thinking of our unity as a people. i know that in the past
:several questions regarding sovreinty (sp?) have been raised.
:this brought about thoughts of the jehova's witness' and assyrians.
:these are peoples who exists as cultures with in many states; they also
:retain seperate identities from those who surround them.
Where are the Assyrians nowadays? Are they known by some other name, or am
I just living a sheltered life? You didn't mention another group that
retains cultural identity down to this day from ancient times, transcending
the more common elements of nationality (language, race, geographic
proximity et cetera) -- Israel. I would think that Novoromani would find
their history a source of hope.
:
:i was thinking that perhaps we should inbfluence the use of (and teaching
:of) latin as a language for the use of nova romans.
Yes! And one of our magistrates, Antonius Gryllus Graecus, did something
great in that direction, and which I hope will be imitated innumerable times
in our future: the Ludi Apollinares. Marce Minuci, are you going to print
the winners from that contest soon?
:
:and also the establishment (re-establishment of) roman ideals( ie.
virtues)
:and way of life as a nation with out a nation basis, as used by this
:religion and culture
Well, that's a lot harder to do than to study and promote the use of Latin
(not that the latter is without effort either). I think that you're on to
something though. I suppose that the beginnings of doing this entail
adhering to Lenin's maxim: Study, study and study once again!
......just one of my hair brained schemes though
:
:let me know what you think
:californius
:founder of http:\\www.angelfire.com\ca3\OLYMPUS
:Temple Of Olympus
:
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
|
| Subject: |
Praedicatio Mariae gentis |
| From: |
"Gaius Marius Merullus" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:44:11 -0400 |
|
Salvete omnes
Vt omnes Caium Marium Lepidum acceptum in Mariam gentem esse sciant Eum
firmaturum nostram Rem Publicam esse confido
This is to inform everyone that Gaius Marius Lepidus has joined gens Maria.
I believe that he will strengthen our Republic.
Valete
C Marius Merullus
paterfamilias
Mariae gentis
|
| Subject: |
Assyrians |
| From: |
dean6886@--------) |
| Date: |
Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:02:09 -0500 (CDT) |
|
Yes, the Assyrians do have a webpage somewhere out there that I've
seen. They are a persecuted minority and apparently the entire history
of the Assyrian people have been riddled by mass genocide. They are a
Christian minority in a predominantly Muslim world and they have some
kind of Calendar attatched to their website showing almost monthly
occurrences of atrocities.
I recall one story in particular which happened within the last few
years about a sheperd or herd farmer of some sort that caught three
Kurdish bandits killing his livestock and when confronted a fight
ensued. He killed at least one of the bandits and the survivor(s) went
back to their own village. The local magistrates wanted him tried for
murder of the bandits which would mean a death sentence based on what
the legal system actually means in that area.
The sheperds mother I believe convinced her son to give himself up
and come from out of hiding before the Kurds would come and kill
everyone in the village. Giving himself up, he was tried before a mob
and tied to a tree where he was hacked to death with axes from local
Kurdish women. I don't think I forgot anything from this story I read
about a year or so ago. Granted this is a story told by Assyrians, so it
does not come from a nuetral source. I tend to believe at least that the
man had less than a fair trial.
Gaius Drusus Domitianus
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| Subject: |
Re: Asur = Assyria (OT or not???) |
| From: |
Razenna razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 03 Oct 1999 09:14:06 -0700 |
|
Salvete.
Yes. They are still around. Their homeland is in the modern state of Iraq,
there are many in California. A city in the San Joaquin Valley (the southern
branch of the Great Central Valley of California) has a huge Assyrian
population. I can't remember the name of it, though it is one of the ones that
I hear the name of often (not Fresno). Their religion is version of
Christianity. A legend/myth I got from a co-worker who is married to an
Assyrian says that they claimto have been converted to Christianity by one of
the Magi who visited the Assyrian king on the way back from the Nativity. [I
suggest nobody bothers to post any critique of this story. A religion's mythos
is what it is. Period.] There is a fine wines store (and booze too) store that
is run by Assyrians in my old neighborhood here in San Francisco. An Assyrian
last name is Yohannon. (I worked with him warehousing.) There is a gourmet
cook and restaurant critic in San Francisco whose name is Narsi David. The
local Assyrian community donated a statue of Assurbanibal to the San Francisco
Civic Center (i.e. forum). Below are two Assyrian sites I draged up with a
short search after I read Merullus's post.
Valete.
C. Aelius Ericius.
Propraetor ad Californiam Provinciam.
<a href="http://www.nineveh.com/" target="_top" >http://www.nineveh.com/</a>
<a href="http://www.atour.com/" target="_top" >http://www.atour.com/</a>
Gaius Marius Merullus wrote:
> From: "Gaius Marius Merullus" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a>
>
> Salvete Californi et alii
>
> It's neither off-topic nor hare-brained. What you say is entirely valid in
> my view.
>
<-------- size=-1 color="#008000">> :From: "Darth Vilmur; Dark Lord o--------e Sith" <a hre--------post/novaroma?protectID=114166091165042237215056001163243012136219139046209" >darth_vilmur@--------</a>
> :
> :this is way off subject(i think)
> :but i was thinking of our unity as a people. i know that in the past
> :several questions regarding sovreinty (sp?) have been raised.
> :this brought about thoughts of the jehova's witness' and assyrians.
> :these are peoples who exists as cultures with in many states; they also
> :retain seperate identities from those who surround them.
>
> Where are the Assyrians nowadays? Are they known by some other name, or am
> I just living a sheltered life? You didn't mention another group that
> retains cultural identity down to this day from ancient times, transcending
> the more common elements of nationality (language, race, geographic
> proximity et cetera) -- Israel. I would think that Novoromani would find
> their history a source of hope.
> :
> :i was thinking that perhaps we should inbfluence the use of (and teaching
> :of) latin as a language for the use of nova romans.
>
> Yes! And one of our magistrates, Antonius Gryllus Graecus, did something
> great in that direction, and which I hope will be imitated innumerable times
> in our future: the Ludi Apollinares. Marce Minuci, are you going to print
> the winners from that contest soon?
> :
> :and also the establishment (re-establishment of) roman ideals( ie.
> virtues)
> :and way of life as a nation with out a nation basis, as used by this
> :religion and culture
>
> Well, that's a lot harder to do than to study and promote the use of Latin
> (not that the latter is without effort either). I think that you're on to
> something though. I suppose that the beginnings of doing this entail
> adhering to Lenin's maxim: Study, study and study once again!
>
> ......just one of my hair brained schemes though
> :
> :let me know what you think
> :californius
> :founder of http:\\www.angelfire.com\ca3\OLYMPUS
> :Temple Of Olympus
> :
> Valete
>
> Gaius Marius Merullus
>
|
| Subject: |
Re: Praedicatio Mariae gentis |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 03 Oct 1999 11:55:04 -0700 |
|
Congratulations! :)
L. Cornelius Sulla
Gaius Marius Merullus wrote:
> From: "Gaius Marius Merullus" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a>
>
> Salvete omnes
>
> Vt omnes Caium Marium Lepidum acceptum in Mariam gentem esse sciant Eum
> firmaturum nostram Rem Publicam esse confido
>
> This is to inform everyone that Gaius Marius Lepidus has joined gens Maria.
> I believe that he will strengthen our Republic.
>
> Valete
>
> C Marius Merullus
> paterfamilias
> Mariae gentis
>
>
|
| Subject: |
Re: I'm back, with good news |
| From: |
"RCW" alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:07:10 -0700 |
|
Thats great! I am glad you are back Patricia Cassia...you have been
missed... :) Thank you for the news and description of Palladius's
wedding...will there be any pictures for those of us to view???
L. Cornelius Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Washburn <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
To: Nova Roma Mailing List <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 2:00 PM
Subject: [novaroma] I'm back, with good news
> From: Pat Washburn <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
>
> Salvete!
>
> After an extended sabbatical during The Troubles, I had been planning to
> return to this list, and am pleased to be able to return with the
> following news:
>
> This weekend, Cassius and I attended the wedding of our senior Consul,
> Decius Iunius Palladius, to his lovely Christina. As befitting his
> interest in history, the wedding was held at a historic meetinghouse on
> the grounds of the Shelburne Museum in Vermont.
>
> Roman-oriented elements of the event included an exchange of rings, the
> bride's veil (white, not flame-colored, but still), and the wedding cake,
> which the couple wisely decided should be chocolate. Yes, all those
> ordinary wedding customs go back to ancient Rome...
>
> Tiberius Iunius nobly performed the duties of best man to his
> Paterfamilias, and many of the couple's real-world relatives and friends
> attended. (We were particularly impressed with the bride's parents, whose
> dancing far outshone many younger couples.)
>
> At the end of the evening, the Pontifex Maximus privately gave the couple
> his blessing and asked that Jupiter, Juno and Minerva bless their house.
>
> As you might expect, the Consul will not be answering e-mail for a week
> or so.
>
>
> Patricia Cassia . Quaestor, Nova Roma
> <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
>
> >
|
| Subject: |
Re: Re: Asur = Assyria (OT or not???) |
| From: |
"Darth Vilmur; Dark Lord of The Sith" darth_vilmur@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 03 Oct 1999 18:40:04 -0700 |
|
assyrians have a heavy population in turlock california. a town about 30 minutes
south of modesto (the town where i live)
Razenna wrote:
> From: Raz-------- <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a>
>
> Salvete.
>
> Yes. They are still around. Their homeland is in the modern state of Iraq,
> there are many in California. A city in the San Joaquin Valley (the southern
> branch of the Great Central Valley of California) has a huge Assyrian
> population. I can't remember the name of it, though it is one of the ones that
> I hear the name of often (not Fresno). Their religion is version of
> Christianity. A legend/myth I got from a co-worker who is married to an
> Assyrian says that they claimto have been converted to Christianity by one of
> the Magi who visited the Assyrian king on the way back from the Nativity. [I
> suggest nobody bothers to post any critique of this story. A religion's mythos
> is what it is. Period.] There is a fine wines store (and booze too) store that
> is run by Assyrians in my old neighborhood here in San Francisco. An Assyrian
> last name is Yohannon. (I worked with him warehousing.) There is a gourmet
> cook and restaurant critic in San Francisco whose name is Narsi David. The
> local Assyrian community donated a statue of Assurbanibal to the San Francisco
> Civic Center (i.e. forum). Below are two Assyrian sites I draged up with a
> short search after I read Merullus's post.
>
> Valete.
> C. Aelius Ericius.
> Propraetor ad Californiam Provinciam.
>
> <a href="http://www.nineveh.com/" target="_top" >http://www.nineveh.com/</a>
>
> <a href="http://www.atour.com/" target="_top" >http://www.atour.com/</a>
>
> Gaius Marius Merullus wrote:
>
> > From: "Gaius Marius Merullus" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a>
> >
> > Salvete Californi et alii
> >
> > It's neither off-topic nor hare-brained. What you say is entirely valid in
> > my view.
> >
<-------- size=-1 color="#008000">> > :From: "Darth Vilmur; Dark Lord o--------e Sith" <a hre--------post/novaroma?protectID=114166091165042237215056001163243012136219139046209" >darth_vilmur@--------</a>
> > :
> > :this is way off subject(i think)
> > :but i was thinking of our unity as a people. i know that in the past
> > :several questions regarding sovreinty (sp?) have been raised.
> > :this brought about thoughts of the jehova's witness' and assyrians.
> > :these are peoples who exists as cultures with in many states; they also
> > :retain seperate identities from those who surround them.
> >
> > Where are the Assyrians nowadays? Are they known by some other name, or am
> > I just living a sheltered life? You didn't mention another group that
> > retains cultural identity down to this day from ancient times, transcending
> > the more common elements of nationality (language, race, geographic
> > proximity et cetera) -- Israel. I would think that Novoromani would find
> > their history a source of hope.
> > :
> > :i was thinking that perhaps we should inbfluence the use of (and teaching
> > :of) latin as a language for the use of nova romans.
> >
> > Yes! And one of our magistrates, Antonius Gryllus Graecus, did something
> > great in that direction, and which I hope will be imitated innumerable times
> > in our future: the Ludi Apollinares. Marce Minuci, are you going to print
> > the winners from that contest soon?
> > :
> > :and also the establishment (re-establishment of) roman ideals( ie.
> > virtues)
> > :and way of life as a nation with out a nation basis, as used by this
> > :religion and culture
> >
> > Well, that's a lot harder to do than to study and promote the use of Latin
> > (not that the latter is without effort either). I think that you're on to
> > something though. I suppose that the beginnings of doing this entail
> > adhering to Lenin's maxim: Study, study and study once again!
> >
> > ......just one of my hair brained schemes though
> > :
> > :let me know what you think
> > :californius
> > :founder of http:\\www.angelfire.com\ca3\OLYMPUS
> > :Temple Of Olympus
> > :
> > Valete
> >
> > Gaius Marius Merullus
> >
>
>
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