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Real Historians |
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"Nicolaus Moravius" n_moravius@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:07:32 PDT |
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Salvete! Scripsit Murena:
>Wait a minute! Are you saying that I'm not a "real"
>historian? I do happen to TEACH history at a major
>university, and I have a degree in history from a
>major university (currently ranked 4th in the nation),
>and I HAVE published several articles on both the
>Roman Republic and medieval England in major, top
>historical journals. Unlike some on this list, I
>happen to BE a REAL historian!
Will somebody please explain to me what a 'real' historian is? And what one
should call any other kind of historian?
Is it to do with formal education, or profession, or produce, or what?
Valete,
Vado (now unsure what kind of historian he is - apart from a fallible one -
thanks, BTW, Palladius:-)
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| Subject: |
The Armilustrium |
| From: |
"Lucius" vergil@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:06:20 -0400 |
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Modern Date : October 19th Market Day
The Armilustrium
This day (NP), is for special religious observance.
The Armilustrium is the day the army is lustrated, or purified. The army would be assembled and reviewed in the Circus Maximus, garlanded with flowers and the trumpets (tubae) would be played as part of the purification rites. This is one of the festival day and the temples would sacrifice, then prepare feasts from the animals sacrificed, and the public and poor were invited. Games, music, dancing, singing and wine-drinking would conclude the festivities.
As a military festival, this day is sacred to Mars.
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| Subject: |
Re: The Armilustrium |
| From: |
Mariu--------mbria <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:33:56 -0500 (CDT) |
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Salvete...!
...It's also Marius Fimbria's dies natalis...(He's 37). >({|;-)
Laters...!
-- Marius Fimbria (breakin' his own Bandwidth Rule...but hey.)
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| Subject: |
Re: The Armilustrium |
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| Date: |
Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:09:10 EDT |
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In a message dated 10/19/99 7:05:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
<a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a> writ--------br>
<< and have finished the 'breastplate. >>
What kind of breastplate?
QFM
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| Subject: |
Book Review: "Greek Religion" |
| From: |
JSA <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=081166091180193192130061163101147165026048139046" >varromurena@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:57:33 -0700 (PDT) |
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Jan N. Bremmer, _Greek Religion_, _Greece & Rome
New Surveys in the Classics_, No. 24 (Oxford:
Published
for the Classical Association by Oxford University
Press, 1994), x + 111 pp.
The main purpose of this slim volume is to update
Burkert's study of the same name, originally published
in 1977 (with the 1985 English translation not
substantially different than the original German
version). Bremmer's study, though it adheres
(mostly) to the organization of Burkert's original
study, presents in summary and highly readable fashion
the many developments in the study of gods,
sanctuaries, ritual, mythology, gender, and
transformation of beliefs in Hellenistic times.
Current academic study is divided between those who
favor Burkert's approach based on the old German
studies of individual god/desses, and those who favor
the work of
Jean-Pierre Vernant (_Myth & Society in Ancient
Greece_ (New York, 1990)), based more on viewing the
god/desses as part of a web of natural powers, with
emphasis on social history via myth and ritual.
Bremmer notes, too, that most of the older, standard
works, such as that of Martin P. Nilsson, James G.
Frazer, and Jane Harrison, are now, due to the work
of Burkert and Vernant, and their followers, outdated
if not downright discredited by those working in this
field (practitioners, take note!).
Bremmer, for the most part, attempts to steer a
middle course. In the process, he presents a wealth
of fascinating new detail, and, most importantly, a
wealth of citations imbedded in the footnotes to
each chapter. There are also innumerable illustrations
supporting the text. The chapters on ritual,
mythology, and gender were particularly enlightening,
and particularly useful, not just for the historian,
but for practitioners interested in an authentic
recreation of ancient worship.
Overall, any serious student of Ancient Hellenic
Polytheism would be wise to get and read this work.
L. Licinius Varro Murena
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| Subject: |
Tacitus' _Germania_ |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:49:02 -0500 |
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Salvete!
I know there are several folks on the list interested in Asatru and
German history, as well as persons interested in Latin and Roman history,
and I noticed that Perseus Online doesn't have it, so I put Tacitus'
_Germania_ online. I wrote a Windows 95/98/NT program that takes in regular
Latin (or German) and English ascii texts and creates morphologically
tagged
and dictionary tagged webpages. I'll give the program away after I build
another setup file if anyone is interested. This webpage is one of the
results. It has the hyperlinked Latin text on the left and an English
translation on the right. I originally got both the Latin and the English
text files from the net. Just click on any of the Latin words, and it will
list the word at the bottom, and give you the option of two different
dictionaries/analyzers (Perseus' and Whittaker's) at the bottom that you can
click on to get the meaning and parsing of the Latin word. I though it
could come in handy to anybody studying Latin or Roman history or German
history. It will probably take a couple of minutes for the whole web page
to load up if you're using a modem, since the texts are so long. Here is
the link to the page: <a href="http://www.razorbackroad.com/~ckieffer/germania.html" target="_top" >http://www.razorbackroad.com/~ckieffer/germania.html</a>
I also put up a similar page with the translation notes for Pervigilium
Veneris that I made last year. It's at:
<a href="http://www.razorbackroad.com/~ckieffer/Perv_Main.html" target="_top" >http://www.razorbackroad.com/~ckieffer/Perv_Main.html</a>
Be sure that you let the pages completely load before you start clicking
on words.
May the Gods bless you,
C Cordius Symmachus
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