Subject: Re: The Armilustrium
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:51:48 -0400
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Subject: Re: The Armilustrium

In a message dated 10/19/99 7:05:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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<< and have finished the 'breastplate. >>
What kind of breastplate?
QFM

Salve, Quinte
I have made what is referred to as a 'Pectorial' if you have Osprey 'men-at-arms' #283 Early Roman Armies ISBN 1-85532-513-6 (p.25&26) or Peter Connolly's Greece and Rome at War ISBN 1-85367-303-X (p.93) you will see what mean.

Vale, Lucius Equitius




Subject: Re: Digest Number 602
From: JSA varromurena@--------
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:22:15 -0700 (PDT)
What edition of the Latin text did you use, and which
translation? Some editions of the text, and some
translations, are better than others. I hope that
neither of the texts you used are under copyright, as
that could leave you open for legal liability.

When reading Tacitus' Germania, take what he says with
a huge grain of salt, as it is well-known that he used
the Germans as a foil to criticize Roman society.
Also, most of the tribes that the Romans were familiar
with in this early stage of the Principate--primarily
those on the Rhine frontier, seem to have actually
been Celtic, or, at least, a Celtic-Germanic mixture
(most of the names cited are actually Celtic).

I also note that two translations of Germania, and a
Latin text, are online at the Ancient History
Sourcebook:
<a href="http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/asbook.html" target="_top" >http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/asbook.html</a>

L. Licinius Varro Murena

>
> I know there are several folks on the list
> interested in Asatru and
> German history, as well as persons interested in
> Latin and Roman history,
> and I noticed that Perseus Online doesn't have it,
> so I put Tacitus'
> _Germania_ online. I wrote a Windows 95/98/NT
> program that takes in regular
> Latin (or German) and English ascii texts and
> creates morphologically
> tagged
> and dictionary tagged webpages. I'll give the
> program away after I build
> another setup file if anyone is interested. This
> webpage is one of the
> results. It has the hyperlinked Latin text on the
> left and an English
> translation on the right. I originally got both the
> Latin and the English
> text files from the net. Just click on any of the
> Latin words, and it will
> list the word at the bottom, and give you the option
> of two different
> dictionaries/analyzers (Perseus' and Whittaker's) at
> the bottom that you can
> click on to get the meaning and parsing of the Latin
> word. I though it
> could come in handy to anybody studying Latin or
> Roman history or German
> history. It will probably take a couple of minutes
> for the whole web page
> to load up if you're using a modem, since the texts
> are so long. Here is
> the link to the page:
> <a href="http://www.razorbackroad.com/~ckieffer/germania.html" target="_top" >http://www.razorbackroad.com/~ckieffer/germania.html</a>
> I also put up a similar page with the translation
> notes for Pervigilium
> Veneris that I made last year. It's at:
>
<a href="http://www.razorbackroad.com/~ckieffer/Perv_Main.html" target="_top" >http://www.razorbackroad.com/~ckieffer/Perv_Main.html</a>
> Be sure that you let the pages completely load
> before you start clicking
> on words.
>
> May the Gods bless you,
> C Cordius Symmachus
>
>
>
>
>

Subject: Re: Re: The Armilustrium
From: SFP55@--------
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:25:17 EDT
In a message dated 10/20/99 7:51:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
<a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=081056091108082153015038190036129" >v--------l@--------</a> writ--------br>
<< I have made what is referred to as a 'Pectorial' >>
Salve.
18" square, or oval. Yes I have all Osprey publications. We miniaturists
would be lost with out them.
QFM



Subject: Re: Digest Number 602
From: "Chad Kieffer" ckieffer@--------
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:24:09 -0500
The Latin text was from from D. R. Stuart, ed. _The Germania_ (New York
1916). The translation was from _Voyages and travels : ancient and modern,
with introductions, notes and illustrations_. New York : P. F. Collier and
son, [c1910] _The Harvard Classics_, ed. by C. W. Ellot [vol. XXXIII]. The
U.S. copyright lapsed for both titles several years ago. You can find these
texts on-line at several other places on the internet, as well. Both the
text and the translation appear to be based on the Vatican Manuscript #1862
and the Leyden "Pontanus" manuscript, so the spurious later additions to the
text are absent.

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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Digest Number 602


> From: JSA <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=081166091180193192130061163101147165026048139046" >varromurena@--------</a>
>
> What edition of the Latin text did you use, and which
> translation? Some editions of the text, and some
> translations, are better than others. I hope that
> neither of the texts you used are under copyright, as
> that could leave you open for legal liability.
>
> When reading Tacitus' Germania, take what he says with
> a huge grain of salt, as it is well-known that he used
> the Germans as a foil to criticize Roman society.
> Also, most of the tribes that the Romans were familiar
> with in this early stage of the Principate--primarily
> those on the Rhine frontier, seem to have actually
> been Celtic, or, at least, a Celtic-Germanic mixture
> (most of the names cited are actually Celtic).
>
> I also note that two translations of Germania, and a
> Latin text, are online at the Ancient History
> Sourcebook:
> <a href="http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/asbook.html" target="_top" >http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/asbook.html</a>
>
> L. Licinius Varro Murena




Subject: Election Results
From: Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@--------
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:30:35 -0700
Salvete Omnes

These are the results from the recent election we had in Nova Roma.

For the Race of Praetor:

Marcus Minucius Audens - 13 Centuries
Quintus Fabius Maximus - 11 Centuries

Congratulations to M. Minucius Audens on his victory!

Now for the Lexes:

II Lex Iunia de Patrumfamiliae Matrumfamiliaeque Aetate
25 Yes Votes
3 No Votes

III Lex Iunia de Iusiurando
21 Yes Votes
4 No Votes

IV Lex Iunia Centuriata
22 Yes Votes
5 No Votes

V Lex Cornelia Centuriata
21 Yes Votes
2 No Votes

The Official Rogator Count that lists each Century will be posted on the
Shared Files page of the Nova Roma Onelist Site.

L. Cornelius Sulla
Consul







Subject: Re: Tacitus' Germania
From: Alasdair Morgan Gunn amgunn@--------
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:53:07 -0700
Ave Symmachus!

Venator scripsit:

>
> Quoth C. Cordius Symmachus:
>
> I know there are several folks on the list interested in Asatru and German history,
> as well as persons interested in Latin and Roman history, and I noticed that Perseus
> Online doesn't have it, so I put Tacitus'"Germania" online.
>

Mille gratias, as an Asatruar. I do possess the 'Penguin' hardcopy though.

In Amicus - Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, ex Ultima Thule