| Subject: |
Re: in the case of unwanted spam |
| From: |
SFP55@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 26 Oct 1999 02:31:42 EDT |
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In a message dated 10/25/99 6:42:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197166104009127132130232203026129208071" >pap--------s@--------</a> wr--------:
<< But to inflict the e-equivalent of aquae et ignis
interdictio for this offense pretty much makes death the penalty for
practically everything else (e.g. hurling abuse at someone *on purpose*).
I thought Nova Roma was ruled by law, not webmasters ...
mpj >>
Salvete!
I think the reaction was one of anticipation of events rather then of one to
react to. I found the e-mail pretty harmless, and Kyrene Gladia prompt
response kept citizens from wasting time on it. No, I think this is a long
range fear that NR onelist might be buried in SPAM and that the powers may be
are over reacting to this possibility. Has anyone contacted this fellow to
find out what the motive of his posting was? I think not. Instead everyone
wants to use their Imperium. I think we should investigate the situation,
rather then condemn it out of hand.
Valete!
Q. Fabius
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| Subject: |
unwanted spam |
| From: |
Diana Aventina diana_aventina@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:29:08 -0700 (PDT) |
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Morning!
>I found the e-mail pretty harmless,
Me too. And emails sent without malice should not
be responded to with anger. There is always the
delete button!
I do have a question regarding this list being
totally open and available to anyone who stumbles
across it on Onelist. Isn't it possible for
someone to sign up on this list using a Roman
name,posting very controversial emails and
wreaking havoc amongst the citizens? Has this
ever happened?
Diana
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| Subject: |
Re: Latin words for spam |
| From: |
"Arielle Salama" ariellenewf@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:17:55 NDT |
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SPAM stands for "specially prepared assorted meats"! Really!
Sincerely,
Julia Servilia Tullia
>There HAS to be a Latin word for 'spam'! Presumably 'spam' is an acrostic -
>can someone tell me what the letters S-P-A-M stand for, so I can amuse
>myself thinking up a Latin acrostic? Care to help,
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| Subject: |
NovaRoma List Policies and Procedures (LONG) |
| From: |
Marius Fimbria legion6@-------- |
| Date: |
Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:23:34 -0500 (CDT) |
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Salve, Papiri Iuste, et salvete omnes...
> I thought Nova Roma was ruled by law, not webmasters ...
Nova Roma is indeed ruled by law; and no edict could govern my List
moderatorship half so stringently as I have seen fit to govern myself.
Consul Sulla knows, and Ericius Propraetor's comments indicate he at
least suspects, what my normal procedure is: a warning-letter (the
matter usually ends there), followed only if necessary by setting the
subscription to [moderated], then unsubscribing, with banning (in which
the offender is prohibited from ever resubscribing under the same
address) only as an extreme last resort. Since I took over the List, I
have issued maybe half-a-dozen warnings; set one subscription to
[moderated]; and have had no need or call to use the third and fourth
options whatsoever.
For the record, I don't think the recent chain letter was any big deal.
People pass these things on, a lot of times out of a desire to help;
respected Citizens have posted virus-warnings that turned out to be
hoaxes. So what?
As of this writing, the poster's subscription is still active and
unmoderated. I have e-mailed Decius Iunius an explanation of my usual
methods, and am waiting to hear if he wants me to make a specific
exception in this case.
On a related issue, Diana Aventina has asked:
> I do have a question regarding this list being totally open and
> available to anyone who stumbles across it on Onelist. Isn't it
> possible for someone to sign up on this list using a Roman name,
> posting very controversial emails and wreaking havoc amongst the
> citizens? Has this ever happened?
That sort of thing has indeed happened; we get one of those every four
to six months or so, and it's happened once-and-a-half on my watch. I
believe Martianus Gangalius, when he was working on the Annales Novae
Romae, was about to weave for posterity the tale of Marconius Romanus,
a fundamentalist Christian who unaccountably saw fit to join NR and
then flame the Religio Romana. I was not Curator at the time; my howls
of protest echoed just as loudly as anyone else's, the more so because
he was making my religion look bad (I, too, am a Christian, but no
fundamentalist; and I find such characters acutely-embarassing).
More recent occurances were when a discussion of East Timor flared up
into a hurling of racial and religious epithets (I *was* Curator by
then); and the odd half-flap, when an ill-behaved 'outside observer'
accused me of manipulating the List-traffic to secure a particular
candidate's election. (That did not flare up precisely because, for
anyone that knows me [which is most of the List regulars], the
accusation was so patently unbelievable.)
Which brings me to another issue that gets kicked around from time to
time... We have often asked ourselves whether the NovaRoma E-List
ought to be restricted to Citizens only. Generally the question comes
up right after a hit-and-run situation such as Diana asks about and I
have described. In every case, we have decided against banning
non-Cives from subscribing. The reasons? --Chiefly, that we wish
prospective members to have a chance to check out Nova Roma by being
able to lurk on the List for a time; but also, sometimes our non-Cives
contibute a sorely-needed third-party perspective to our discussions
and general goings-on! The same 'observer' cited above had also said,
in an earlier post:
> We are seeing a living, breathing Rome slowly coming into existence
> against all the odds. [snip]...Sometimes you just need an outsider's
> opinion to get you to realize what a wonderful thing you are
> attempting to do here.
I think it was worth a minor 'texturing' of my dignitas on the election
thing to be able to be reminded of this. Ita est!
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Lucius Marius Fimbria |>[SPQR]<|
mka Märia Villarroel |\=/|
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Roman Historical Re-Creationist `\*/, ``}`^~``,,, \ \
and Citizen of Nova Roma ``=.\ (__==\_ /\ }
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but SOMEbody's gotta do it!!' /./..=' /./..'
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| Subject: |
Re: NovaRoma List Policies and Procedures (LONG) |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:31:41 -0400 (EDT) |
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Excellent Note Fimbria, and as usual an excellent job. I feel that your
activities are quite adequate for the Onelist with all thigs considered.
I support Fimbria's actions and I also support any constructive
discussion in regard to them. One of the reasons that we have a plitica
side to Nova Roma is in order to elect / appoint officers ? magistrates
who can take action in a smooth and unruffled way, solve the problem at
hand, with a minimum of fuss, nd continue as before. All members of NR
should realize that it takes some small amount of time to re-act, and an
automatic criticism of the "worker-bees" without some knowledge of what
is going on can be unproductive.
I am very glad to see that such is not a problem with the Moderater's
position, and I thankl you Fimbria for your efforts and your quiet but
firm actions.
Marcus Minucius Audens
Praetor
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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