| Subject: |
Nova Roma Before the World |
| From: |
Diana Aventina diana_aventina@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 26 Nov 1999 04:46:02 -0800 (PST) |
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This is my last email from Brussels (and
lunchtime!!). Happily, I will now be working a
lot closer to home. The down side is that I won't
have a 2 hour lunch to read/answer Nova Roma
emails. So, I will be a bit quieter from now on
(Diana hears loud sighs of relief coming from
across the North Sea and the Atlantic :-)
Anyway:
Hi Audens: I really admire your enthusiasm.
> but there must be groups of people in
> Belgica
Sure are.In Holland and Belgica, we organize
monthly pagan meetings that regularly attract a
crowd of between 30-75. My next meeting is on
January 9th and we are worried that we will have
150 people and can't handle it...
Nova Roma as an International organization can of
course use English as its main language. We at
the Pagan Federation International do the same
thing. The first step was to translate the basic
info into Dutch, French, German, Spanish and
Swedish, print it out (for our snailmailers) and
also to put it on the internet. But the key to
success has been to get a local Coordinator in as
many countries as possible to organize monthly
meetings where the local members can meet and
discuss paganism in their own language. We have
TRIED to get each local Coordinator to put out a
small local language PF newsletter too. This
makes the members feel "connected" to the
organization on a local level. They are also
connected and feel part of a big "international"
network of Pagans by our 2 email lists and also
our "international" newsletter.
These things have worked for the PF. In Belgium,
we have increased the membership by 6 times in 15
months. (It will be a lot tougher for Nova Roma
because we are specifically for Roman stuff).
The problem is that you need a person in as many
countries as possible to translate basic info
into the local language, set up regular meetings,
and make some kind of local language newsletter
for the non-English speakers so that the
people/members/citizens don't feel like they are
in an "English only" club. It is a lot of work
and even the best-intentioned, enthusiastic
person just may not have the time to organize
things.
That's it!Signing off from Brussels
Bright Blessings,
Diana
PS: My site is being redone and is moving within
the week. If anyone is interested:
<a href="http://user.online.be/paganfedbelgium" target="_top" >http://user.online.be/paganfedbelgium</a>
(Please ignore the typing errors on the first
page!! I am a TERRIBLE typist and one of these
days, I will actually remember to use the
spell-checker.
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| Subject: |
Re: The anthem & a question |
| From: |
"Tinnekke Bebout" tinnekke@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:52:01 GMT |
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Salve Paterfamilias
I haven't received a vote code. I hope it's not the one that was sent to me
for last year's election because that was tossed when I cleaned out my desk.
Vale
L. Iunia Cypria
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| Subject: |
Re: Digest Number 638 |
| From: |
"Don and Crys Meaker" famromo@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:07:13 -0600 |
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On 26 Nov 99, at 8:08, <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> wrote:
>
> y digo yo:
> Err...I think that's in reference to your own offer of a monthly
> 'housewarming session' in your new digs...isn't it?
>
> Laetitia et Pax,
> -- Marius Fimbria
> (Propraetor-ish) >({|:-)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DUH
I really MUST have more coffee before replying to this stuff. Hades,
Audens, yours is the closest to a reply I got to that invite <G>.
Guess that means ya can't make it? sigh.
Pax,
Crys
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| Subject: |
Re: Anthem & Question |
| From: |
"Nicolaus Moravius" n_moravius@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:51:08 PST |
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Salvete!
Sarmatus wrote, inter alia:
>- now there is no such state, so the tune is FREE at the moment (never
>heared befor about 'Old Russian Communists':-);
- well, we see them on British TV sometimes, when there is news of events in
Moscow or Leningrad/Petrograd/St. Petersburg, usually demonstrating against
the Yeltsin government, but possibly they don't manifest elsewhere in the
CIS. Maybe Russian TV wants to pretend they don't exist. Or then again,
maybe what I see on the BBC are British actors, employed by MI5. It's hard
to know who to trust...;-)
>- I don't think many Americans or Europeans hearing this music will
>remember
>that ONCE (already many years ago) it was the USSR Hymn, because even here
>in Russia many people don't remember the tune of their former country:-);
>- it's out of copyright, AFAIK.
>
>And additionnaly, probably _any_ melody that can be suggested as a NR
>anthem
>(not only former Soviet Hymn) already has its own background, that has
>nothing to do with NR's aims.
- all the more reason, I believe, that we shoulld compose entirely new
music: something that will sound as timeless as possible, as befits the
Eternal City Herself!
>And I got some more naive 'novice' questions, for example:
>- what do letters SPQR in NR's national flag mean? A latin phrase? And why
>the flag is red?
- don't let anyone tell you that the letters stand for 'Socialist People's
Quirinal Republic', or that the colour is red for international socialism,
symbolising the blood shed by the heroes of the proletariat in the glorious
struggle against capitalist oppression...
... 'SPQR' stands for 'Senatus Populus_Que Romae' ('the Senate and People of
Rome'), a traditional motif even in the Imperial period, and the red is
traditionally the colour of Mars, who was the father of Romulus (alias
Quirinus), the founder of Rome. Actually, I think we should explain this on
the Nova Roma Website, with a caption under the flag.
>- what do abbreviations like IMHO, AFAIK ('as far as I know', I believe?)
- AFAIK, yes, you're right. IMHO = 'In My Humble Opinion'; BTW = 'By The
Way', HTH = 'Hope This Helps'. There have also been unsuccessful attempts
(so far) to introduce Latin equivalents.
>and so on mean?
>- do I use a word "Sarmatus" correctly for Latin equivalent for "Russian"?
- 'Sarmaticus' is what my dictionary offers for 'Sarmatian'.
Valete bene,
Vado.
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| Subject: |
Announcement to stand for Praetor |
| From: |
"Gary E. McGrath" garymac@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:30:57 -0500 |
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Salve Noble citizens of Nova Roma,
With this I announce my intention to stand for the office of Praetor.
While I freely acknowledge that I have only been a NR citizen since August
1999 I humbly submit that my education, training and experience (13 years in
law and law enforcement) qualify me for this office.
As this will be my first time running for office, and some if not all of
you will have questions of me and I could not hope to answer them all here,
I look forward to hearing from each of you (either here on the list or to me
through my personal e-mail address - <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=123166091200038031025218051036129208" >garymac@--------</a> - and having the
opportunity to answer any questions that you have of me to the best of my
ability.
Vale,
M. Iunius Iulianus
Civis Romanus Sum
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| Subject: |
Re: Anthem & Question |
| From: |
"Gaius Marius Merullus" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:17:33 -0500 |
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Salvete Nicolaue Moravi et alii
I believe that SPQR, by bizarre Roman logic, actually stands for Senatus
Populusque Romanus, which would seem to defy the simplest rule of Latin
grammar, agreement of adjectives with nouns in number. Hey, I didn't make
this stuff up.
Valete
C Marius Merullus
:From: "Nicolaus Moravius" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=091089014007127031215056228219114187071048139" >n_moravius@--------</a>
:
:... 'SPQR' stands for 'Senatus Populus_Que Romae' ('the Senate and People
of
:Rome'), a traditional motif even in the Imperial period, and the red is
:traditionally the colour of Mars, who was the father of Romulus (alias
:Quirinus), the founder of Rome. Actually, I think we should explain this on
:the Nova Roma Website, with a caption under the flag.
:
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| Subject: |
Audens was Re: Nova Roma Before the World |
| From: |
"Gaius Marius Merullus" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:12:12 -0500 |
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Salvete Marce Minuci et alii
Audens means "bold" or "daring".
Valete
C Marius Merullus
:
:Very Respectfully;
:Marcus Minucius Audens
:
:P.S.--By the way, does anyone know the meaning of the word Audens in
:Latin?? This question came up yesterday, and I thought I would like to
:know. I may be sorry I asked (Grin!!!!!!!)
:
:Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
:
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| Subject: |
Re: Announcement to stand for Praetor |
| From: |
"Gaius Marius Merullus" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:31:35 -0500 |
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Salvete M Iuni et alii
Wouldn't it make more sense for you to run for one of the lower offices
first (quaestor, aedilis, or one of the vigintisexviri positions)?
The thing is, the cursus honorum is never going to work if we don't make
some attempt to follow it. If we do follow it, it should, at least in
theory, ensure that people experienced in NR serve in the high offices
(consul, censor, praetor, not in that order). Of course, at the beginning
we could not follow the cursus honorum, and we still cannot follow it
perfectly. But we could come close.
As far as a lower office not being important enough, we should all consider
that the vigintisexviri positions were all created out of necessity --
unlike the office of praetor, each vigintisexviri position is already to
some extent defined functionally. We know perfectly well, for example, that
we need a curator sermonum to moderate the list; whereas we know that we
need praetores, because, well, the Romans had praetores. The office has not
been clearly defined yet within our micronation. I know that M Mucius
Scaevola Magister had prepared an edict on NR civil law, but he has not yet
published it to my knowledge. Until he does, and we all have had a chance
to digest it, the office of praetor seems rather undefined here. Why rush
to fill an undefined high office, when there is a lot of work to be done on
the ground?
Valete
C Marius Merullus
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary E. McGrath <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=123166091200038031025218051036129208" >garymac@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Friday, November 26, 1999 2:28 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Announcement to stand for Praetor
:From: "Gary E. McGrath" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=123166091200038031025218051036129208" >garymac@--------</a>
:
:Salve Noble citizens of Nova Roma,
: With this I announce my intention to stand for the office of Praetor.
: While I freely acknowledge that I have only been a NR citizen since August
:1999 I humbly submit that my education, training and experience (13 years
in
:law and law enforcement) qualify me for this office.
: As this will be my first time running for office, and some if not all of
:you will have questions of me and I could not hope to answer them all here,
:I look forward to hearing from each of you (either here on the list or to
me
:through my personal e-mail address - <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=123166091200038031025218051036129208" >garymac@--------</a> - and having the
:opportunity to answer any questions that you have of me to the best of my
:ability.
:
:Vale,
:M. Iunius Iulianus
:Civis Romanus Sum
:
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