Subject:	Re: Deadline Extended
From:	Decius Iunius Palladius amcgrath@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 01:01:00 -0500 (EST)

On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=173075066165082194184241189100114253071048139" >JusticeCMO@--------</--------; wrote:

> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=173075066165082194184241189100114253071048139" >JusticeCMO@--------</--------;
>
> In a message dated 11/30/99 4:35:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232219108127031050199203252129208071" >amcgrath@--------</a> writes:
>
> << Salvete! I hereby extend the dealine for people to announce their
> candidacies for offices elected by the comitia centuriata--the offices of
> censor, consul and praetor. All the other offices are elected by the
> comitia populi tributa, which is being convened by Lucius Cornelius Sulla. >
>
> Does this mean that candidacy announcements for the other positions
> <Magistrates and such> is now past?


No, Lucius Cornelius Sulla extended the deadline for those positions until
the same time tomorrow.

Vale,

Decius Iunius Palladius

Subject:	Re:Deadline Extended
From:	Decius Iunius Palladius amcgrath@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 01:16:27 -0500 (EST)

On 30 Nov 1999, Claudius Nigellus wrote:

> From: Claudius Nigellus <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=219128113182248132130232066026192239248105163214013123152150172" >claudius--------llus@--------</a> >
> Salvete

Salve,

> Scripsit Palladius:
>
> I hereby extend the dealine for people to announce their
> candidacies for offices elected by the comitia centuriata
>
> I would be grateful if our honoured consul could explain why the deadline he
> himself published over a week ago and was most clear in stating, has been
> arbitrarily extended? While I myself observed that we were not overwhelmed by
> the flood of people coming forward, I am not sure that an eleventh hour
> bending of the rules to suit those who cannot observe the due process for
> declaring their intentions necessarily best serves the State.


It serves the needs of the state when there is a lack of people willing to
serve in the various offices that are open. You have stepped forward as a
candidate for office and I thank you for doing that. I am trying to
encourage others to participate by making it as easy as possible for them
to do so.



To the rest of the citizenry, who have not declared themselves as
candidates for anything:

There are now 4 candidates for praetor and none for webmaster or
moderator, only one for Eagle editor and only one for rogator (when two
are needed). These positions are vital to the functioning of Nova Roma,
more so than Praetor or the aediles. Nova Roma cannot function without
them. If you have the time and the ability, please run for one of the
vigintisexviri.

Vale,

Decius Iunius Palladius
Consul



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"Quis ita familiaris est barbaris,
ut aram Victoriae non requirat!"

Quintus Aurelius Symmachus

Subject:	Increased Century points for Viginti
From:	Decius Iunius Palladius amcgrath@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 01:19:58 -0500 (EST)

Salvete!


Included on the ballot will be a proposal to increase the century point
value of the Vigintisextviri from 5 points to 12. This will give the
position points commensurate with the work involved and will reflect the
importance of the position.

Valete,

Decius Iunius Palladius,
Consul
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"Quis ita familiaris est barbaris,
ut aram Victoriae non requirat!"

Quintus Aurelius Symmachus

Subject:	Re: ATTN: magistrates - Leges _ de prorogandis magistratibus was Deadline Extended
From:	Decius Iunius Palladius amcgrath@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 01:31:34 -0500 (EST)

On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, RMerullo wrote:

> From: "RMerullo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a>
>
> Salvete Consul Deci Iuni et alii
>
> I'm thinking that NR may be best served if we have a clear legal mechanism,
> in compliance with the constitution, to extend the terms of office of
> sitting magistrates when no citizens step forward to replace them.
>
> A solution that I identify is passage of three identical laws, one for each
> assembly, authorizing the Senate to prorogue sitting magistrates elected by
> that assembly. The laws could look something like the following:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------
> Lex Iunia de prorogandis magistratibus
>
> Si deerit candidatorum in ullum officium in Decembre centuria Senatum
> potestatem magistratus prorogandi unum annum magistratu volente habere
> statuunt
>
> English: If no candidates declare for any office in December, the centuries
> resolve that the Senate has the authority to extend by one year the term of
> the magistrate serving in that office, with the consent of that magistrate.

It's a good idea. However, if that person was willing to begin with, then
why would he or she not put forth his candidacy at the last minute, when
it was clear that no one else would run for the office?


The power for the senate to appoint people to offices in the
Vigintisexviri already exists, granted by the Lex Vedia Vigintisexviri,
which gives the senate to appoint a candidate "pro tem" until an election
can be held. This pro tem period could conceivable last until someone else
makes his or her interest in the job known, at which time an election
could be held.


> I think that laws like this are unfortunately necessary, because without at
> least two of them, we have no clear means of maintaining the offices of
> quaestor, aedilis and all vigintisexviri into next year.

> In Germanicus' case, for example -- since his term as curator araneae is up,
> there is no constitutional procedure for him to continue maintaining the
> website, EVEN IF HE WANTS TO (and I don't know whether he does). In the
> absence of a clear mechanism, the temptation for all of us to ignore the
> constitution will grow quickly, and, once any part of it is ignored, the
> whole of it loses at least some of its validity.

The senate could appoint him to the position pro tem if he were willing,
until a willing replacement could be found. Unless someone steps forward,
this may happen.


Valete,

Decius Iunius Palladius,
Consul

Subject:	Re: Century points
From:	Marius Fimbria legion6@--------
Date:	Wed, 01 Dec 1999 00:44:07 -0600 (CST)

Salvete Censores, et salvete omnes...

Will everyone's Century-point totals be brought up-to-date in time for
this election? The Album Civium shows as having last been updated in
August, and several of us have stepped up to the plate for Nova Roma in
various capacities in the meantime.

In fides,
************************************************************
Lucius Marius Fimbria |>[SPQR]<|

Subject:	Announcement for Candidacy
From:	"Helena Equitia" gretagoring@--------
Date:	Wed, 01 Dec 1999 02:43:07 PST

Salvete Civies!

I would like to announce my candidacy for the position of Rogator.
I am now currently serving Nova Roma in the capacity of Assensus
(Assistant/Clerk) to Consul Lucius Cornelius Sulla. I have been a citizen
for close to 8 months and in that time I have observed and studied with
great scrutiny all of Nova Roma's goings' on, Her
crisis of late and Her many vibrant personalities. (I also person
-ally organized a meeting of some California citizens in July.)

The position of Rogator requires precision, responsibility and integrity.
These are qualities/virtues I strive for always.
I believe in Nova Roma and in our Religio Romana. I believe in the potential
of both to be all that they could be. I believe that the Patrican Gens
Equitia has a purpose in Nova Roma and that it is a matter of honor to
continue that tradition.

I hereby announce my candidacy for the position of Rogator to serve
in the upcoming year.

Valete, Helena Equitia Ovidia

Subject:	Declaration of Candidacy
From:	Marius Fimbria legion6@--------
Date:	Wed, 01 Dec 1999 05:02:02 -0600 (CST)

Salvete omnes...

Scripsit Palladius Consul:
>There are now 4 candidates for praetor and none for webmaster or
>moderator, only one for Eagle editor and only one for rogator (when
>two are needed).

Oh, dear... You mean nobody wants *my* job?? >({|;-)

Okay, okay, I know when I'm licked [grins, then grows serious
again]...but I also know when I'm needed; and so it is thus that I,
Lucius Marius Fimbria, stand before you and announce my candidacy for
the position of Curator Sermonem.

I stand on a lifelong habit of being the 'shoemaker's elf'; friends
have long remarked upon my propensity for doing nifty things behind the
scenes when nobody's looking. More specifically, I stand on my current
record as List moderator; anyone who was here six or nine months ago
will have seen the difference between the List atmosphere then and now,
and I like to think that my efforts have had at least a little bit to
do with that. We have a ways to go, and I would like to continue to
guide this List towards a real sense of itself as a community of mutual
interest and respect.

My presence here prior to becoming Curator may best be summarized by a
quote from Will Rogers: "I am not a Politician, and my other habits
are good."

I have also served/been serving Nova Roma as Tribunus Militum;
co-Commandant of the Sodalicum Militaris; de facto, and now official,
Propraetor of the Southwestern (U.S.) Provincia; and informal
Nomenclator (which is to say, every once in a while a Censor will
consult me on a Roman name-request). As I've said, quiet stuff.
However, long-time members will remember me as a (virtually-)decorated
veteran of the Chat Wars...I got pretty noisy then!!

In amicitia et fides...
************************************************************
Lucius Marius Fimbria |>[SPQR]<|
mka Märia Villarroel |\=/|
<a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a> ( ~ 6 )~~~----...,,__
Roman Historical Re-Creationist `\*/, `` }`^~`,,, \ \
and Citizen of Nova Roma ``=.\ (__==\_ /\ }
'Just a-hangin' around the Universe, | | / )\ \| /
bein' a Roman... It's hard work, _|_| / _/_| /`(
but SOMEbody's gotta do it!!' /./..=' /./..'

Subject:	Re: Increased Century points for Viginti
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Wed, 01 Dec 1999 06:07:08 -0800

Please post a list of what the new century points will be for all positions.
This will allow the citizenry to know how the various positions' points
compare with each other. For example, how will the Viginti rank, point wise,
with the other positions, e.g. praetor, governor, aedile, etc. This
information will allow the voters to judge the proposed law on a number of
elements.

Thank you for your consideration.

C. Aelius Ericius.
Propraetor of California Provincia
Senator of Nova Roma
etc.

Decius Iunius Palladius wrote:

> From: Decius Iunius Palladius <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232219108127031050199203252129208071" >amcgrath@--------</a>
>
> Salvete!
>
> Included on the ballot will be a proposal to increase the century point
> value of the Vigintisextviri from 5 points to 12. This will give the
> position points commensurate with the work involved and will reflect the
> importance of the position.
>
> Valete,
>
> Decius Iunius Palladius,
> Consul
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Quis ita familiaris est barbaris,
> ut aram Victoriae non requirat!"
>
> Quintus Aurelius Symmachus
>
>

Subject:	Re: ATTN: magistrates - Leges _ de prorogandis magistratibus was Deadline Extended
From:	"RMerullo" rmerullo@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:38:47 -0500

Salvete Consul Deci Iuni et alii



>From: Decius Iunius Palladius <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232219108127031050199203252129208071" >amcgrath@--------</a>
>
>
>

>
>It's a good idea. However, if that person was willing to begin with, then
>why would he or she not put forth his candidacy at the last minute, when
>it was clear that no one else would run for the office?

In the case of a consul, Lex Iunia de consulatuum temporum definitione, I
believe, precludes a sitting consul from declaring candidacy for consecutive
terms. In the case of a rogator, a sitting rogator is specifically barred
from declaring candidacy for any office (including a new term as rogator) by
the existing law (sorry, name of law escapes me at the moment -- oh, it's
"Lex Vedia Vigintisexviri", which you cite below).
>
>
>The power for the senate to appoint people to offices in the
>Vigintisexviri already exists, granted by the Lex Vedia Vigintisexviri,
>which gives the senate to appoint a candidate "pro tem" until an election
>can be held. This pro tem period could conceivable last until someone else
>makes his or her interest in the job known, at which time an election
>could be held.

Yes, I have re-read "Lex Vedia Vigintisexviri" and see your point. It's an
important point, because it reduces vastly the urgency of my proposed laws.
I still see utility in those laws, however, because I for one see an
advantage, in the unfortunate and, hopefully in the future, rare
circumstance when noone steps forward as a candidate, to giving sitting,
more-likely-than-not elected, and experienced, magistrates the option of
first refusal of an extended term, rather than leaving the matter of
choosing a replacement entirely to the Senate, right off the bat (oops,
another baseball expression?). I think that it's fairly clear that, in this
circumstance when there is no candidate to fill an office, the people's
power of election suffers, and the Senate has to act to prevent a crisis
resulting from a vacant office (the severity of the crisis depends on the
particular office -- at this time, an empty office of praetor would not be
much of a crisis, but 5 years from now it probably would be).

On the other hand, all the sitting vigintisexviri are in office by
dicatorial appointment, so perhaps my proposed laws would be better
presented to assemblies after magistrates will have been elected to the
vigintisexviri positions. What do you all think? I especially wonder what
thoughts our magistrates have on this.
>
>
>> In Germanicus' case, for example -- since his term as curator araneae is
up,
>> there is no constitutional procedure for him to continue maintaining the
>> website, EVEN IF HE WANTS TO (and I don't know whether he does). In the
>> absence of a clear mechanism, the temptation for all of us to ignore the
>> constitution will grow quickly, and, once any part of it is ignored, the
>> whole of it loses at least some of its validity.
>
>The senate could appoint him to the position pro tem if he were willing,
>until a willing replacement could be found. Unless someone steps forward,
>this may happen.

Got it.
>
>
>Valete,
>
>Decius Iunius Palladius,
>Consul
>
Valete

C Marius Merullus
rogator

Subject:	Re: Deadline Extended
From:	"RMerullo" rmerullo@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:56:29 -0500

Salvete Vedia et alii



>From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=173075066165082194184241189100114253071048139" >JusticeCMO@--------</--------;
>
>Hmmm...maybe it is this head cold....but I seem a bit muddled as to all
this
>talk of deadlines and such. When I orignally saw November 30th as the
>deadline, I presumed that meant candidacies could be announced up to and
>including 11:59pm on 11/30.

Palladius' announcement specified 1800 hours. He also specified Roman time
(the time in Rome, Italy), but, under a recent law passed in the comitia
centuriata, Roman time is the default anyway.
>
>However...I saw the announcement of an extension at 4:51pm on 11/30. If,
at
>that time, an extension was required..I suppose I was mistaken from the
>get-go.
>
>Was the "midnight" set to Roman time originally? I'll confess, I have
enough
>trouble figuring out military time for eastern standard. LOL

There was no "midnight", I don't believe, in Palladius' original
announcement.
>
>Sooo, what I am trying to ask..in a round about way I suppose...is when the
>deadline was originally set to (EST..if someone would be kind enough to do
>the time translation for me LOL Too much Nyquil in my veins!)

Noon on Nov. 30th, EST, was the original deadline.
>
Valete

C Marius Merullus
rogator

Subject:	Re: ATTN: magistrates - Leges _ de prorogandis magistratibus was Deadline Extended
From:	jmath669642reng@--------)
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:47:39 -0500 (EST)

Salve, Consul Paladius;

In response to the question:

"Why would he or she not put forth thier candidacy at the last moment,
when it was clear that no-one else would run for that office?"

I think that there are several answers to that question:

--The delays in the E-Mail which occur from time to time do not allow in
all cases a close consideration of that action;

--The current office holder may not wish to discourage another candidate
with a possible long battle for election;

--The current office holder ma be be aware of a senior's plans for that
office without questioning the situation.

Not that any of the above are of any great consequence, but the fact is,
if the ability of the Senior Magistates / Senate is there to offer an
extension of an office if it is not filled, then why not institute the
idea, as a fall back position in case of necessity. Better to be able
to make those kind of decisions in advance than to rely upon the unkown
plans of an office-holder at the end of his / her term of service.

I see that as a necessary adjunct to the government's responsibility in
keeping the government running in the presence of those citizens who are
undecided about thier available time and consumate abilities. If no-
one steps forward in a period of three months then make the appointment
permanent with the approval of the magistrate. It would seem to me that
we have sufficient checks and balances in place to prevent abuse of that
privaledge, and it is certainly a better consideration than turning to a
dictator, no matter how benevolent.

Vale, Consul Palladius;
Very Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Praetor et Senator

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

Subject:	Re: Increased Century points for Viginti
From:	jmath669642reng@--------)
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:57:26 -0500 (EST)

Salve, Consul Paladius;

Will the proposal for an increase in the Century Points in the subject
be retroactive, and will there be additional points available for those
taking the responsibilty other than at Election Time due to the
additional planning and activity required to get an issue out, take over
the update, or make decisions on pending questions very probably without
any previous preparation and / or assistance which would not generally
face a candidate picking up such an office at election time??

Vale, Consul Palladius;
Very Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens;
Praetor et Senator.

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

Subject:	Re: Re:Deadline Extended
From:	jmath669642reng@--------)
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 14:09:40 -0500 (EST)

Salvete, Citizens Of Nova Roma;

I strongly support Consul Palladius in his decision to extend the
Deadline of Candidacy Date and time. It is obvious from the response of
the NR Citizens that this extension was needed for whatever reasons, and
I applaud his ability to determine that need and act upon it. As a
direct result, NR will be much better placed in the coming year to make
progress in the effort towards the complete establishment of this
micronation.

I am both pleased and proud to be able to serve with a Magistrate such
as Consul Palladius who has the foresight and wit to act on such matters
with alacrity for the benefit of NR.

Valete, Citizens Of Nova Roma;
Very Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens;
Praetor et Senator

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

Subject:	Re: ATTN: magistrates - Leges _ de prorogandis magistratibus was Deadline Extended
From:	jmath669642reng@--------)
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 14:57:01 -0500 (EST)

Save Merrullus;

Perhaps this small cange in your proposed laws might be considered:

I f no canddate declars for any specific office in December, the
centurues, tribes and Senate have the authority to make either of the
following decisions:

--Extend by one year the term of the magistrate serving in that office
with the consent of that magistrate;--or--

--Extend by three months the term of the magistrate serving in tat
office with the consent of that magistrate to allow an additional period
for a candidate to come forward. If no candidate is forthcoming the
centuries, tribes ad Senate will then have the authority to appoint ,
as they see fit, a citizen to fill that vacantcy, as the needs of NR
shall direct.

Vale, Rogator Merrullus;
Marcus Minucius Audens;
Praetor et Senator

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

Subject:	Timere Danaos et Cetera (was The Far Arena)
From:	"Nicolaus Moravius" n_moravius@--------
Date:	Wed, 01 Dec 1999 12:04:25 PST

Salvete!

Scripsit Merullus:

>In
>terms of verbs, the modern Romance languages are all much more complicated
>than Latin, having picked up all these nasty auxiliary verbs, progressives
>and other extraneous stuff. Where does all that extraneous stuff come
>from,
>anyway?

Respondeo: I would say, from various barbarian peoples (Lombards, Goths,
Burgundians etc.) all trying to use Latin as a second language in order to
communicate with each other and the native Romans... which brings me to the
other observation I'd like to make:

>I think that even the Greeks picked up "to have" as an auxiliary
>verb to form perfect tenses (various forms of ekhein or something like
>that). Can any modern Greek-enabled people confirm this fear?

Respondeo: fear not the Greeks, O Merulle: they alone have continued to
disdain this barbarous practice (a grammatical pidginisation, really, as far
as Latin is concerned). I would guess that this is because Greece was
comparatively untrammelled by barbari (until the 15thC. CE). I'm told they
are so linguistically conservative that Socrates could read and understand
the traffic-signs or a modern Greek newspaper - though the modern
pronunciation would defeat him (as it defeats me, even with a phrase-book!).

Valete bene,

Vado.

Subject:	Re: ATTN: magistrates - Leges _ de prorogandis magistratibus was Deadline Extended
From:	"RMerullo" rmerullo@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:55:24 -0500

Salvete Praetor Marce Minuci et alii

Thanks for reading my message and thinking about this. If nothing else,
this discussion should at least illustrate how problematic, even in terms of
our legal framework, shortage of candidates can be (not to mention the more
concrete consequences that could evolve).



>From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/font>
>
>I f no canddate declars for any specific office in December, the
>centurues, tribes and Senate have the authority to make either of the
>following decisions:

A legal solution would have to specify, I think, the body that would pass or
issue it. In the case of the proposed triplicate laws, the three voting
assemblies of the Nova Roman people would vote to authorize the Senate to
take specific action in a specific circumstance.

Why not leave each such action entirely to the assemblies? It would mean
that, in the absence of candidates to office, someone would have to scramble
at the last minute to draft a special law to react to each case. It could
in fact be handled that way -- but I won't be the one scurrying every
December to write these special laws, that's for sure, and I have no idea
who would do it.

Why not let the matter go for now, in other words, let the Senate deal with
it in accordance with its own wishes and existing legislation? Again, we
could do it this way, too,...to a point. At the time that I wrote and
posted these laws, there were to my knowlege no candidates for rogator (I am
grateful to Equitia and Ambrosia that that has changed). And according to
existing NR legislation, rogatores, and consules too I believe, cannot
declare candidacy for re-election. Could the Senate extend the term of
office of a sitting consul, or a sitting rogator? Maybe, probably..(it
isn't absolutely clear from the Lex Vedia Vigintisexviri whether the Senate
can extend the sitting rogator's term - only that it can appoint someone as
a temporary rogator -- given that the sitting rogator cannot declare
candidacy for re-election, why should anyone assume that he can be appointed
pro tempore?).. I wanted to get rid of the "maybe" by passage of these
triplicate laws.
>
>--Extend by one year the term of the magistrate serving in that office
>with the consent of that magistrate;--or--
>
>--Extend by three months the term of the magistrate serving in tat
>office with the consent of that magistrate to allow an additional period
>for a candidate to come forward. If no candidate is forthcoming the
>centuries, tribes ad Senate will then have the authority to appoint ,
>as they see fit, a citizen to fill that vacantcy, as the needs of NR
>shall direct.

I think that this choice of action is a good idea.

So, the triplicate laws could be amended to provide the Senate with these
two choices of action in the same specific circumstance of lack of any
candidate for a vacant office.

If Palladius, Sulla or Graecus would like to include a version of this law
in the voting agenda for an upcoming assembly, I stand ready to re-write it
to include this senatorial choice that Audens has proposed, if they desire.
The need for these laws is less urgent today than it was yesterday.
>
Vale

C Marius Merullus
rogator
>
>Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

You too.
>

Subject:	Re: Timere Danaos et Cetera (was The Far Arena)
From:	"RMerullo" rmerullo@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:05:34 -0500

Salve Nicolaue Moravi

Non eos at eorum timebam

By which I mean to say "I didn't fear them (?the Greeks, right? - why Danaos
and not graecos?) but feared for them".

Anyway, thanks for the very comforting information. Maybe I'll try to take
that trip to Greece in my lifetime after all....

Vale

C Marius Merullus


>From: "Nicolaus Moravius" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=091089014007127031215056228219114187071048139" >n_moravius@--------</a>
>
>

>Respondeo: fear not the Greeks, O Merulle: they alone have continued to
>disdain this barbarous practice (a grammatical pidginisation, really, as
far
>as Latin is concerned). I would guess that this is because Greece was
>comparatively untrammelled by barbari (until the 15thC. CE). I'm told they
>are so linguistically conservative that Socrates could read and understand
>the traffic-signs or a modern Greek newspaper - though the modern
>pronunciation would defeat him (as it defeats me, even with a
phrase-book!).

Subject:	Re: Increased Century points for Viginti
From:	Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@--------
Date:	Wed, 01 Dec 1999 11:57:40 -0800

Salve, Here is the site where you can see the point value for every position
<a href="http://www.novaroma.org/aerarium_saturni/lex99073007.html" target="_top" >http://www.novaroma.org/aerarium_saturni/lex99073007.html</a>

It is under the Lex Vedia Centuriata.

L. Cornelius Sulla
Consul

Razenna wrote:

> From: Raz-------- <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a>
>
> Please post a list of what the new century points will be for all positions.
> This will allow the citizenry to know how the various positions' points
> compare with each other. For example, how will the Viginti rank, point wise,
> with the other positions, e.g. praetor, governor, aedile, etc. This
> information will allow the voters to judge the proposed law on a number of
> elements.
>
> Thank you for your consideration.
>
> C. Aelius Ericius.
> Propraetor of California Provincia
> Senator of Nova Roma
> etc.
>
> Decius Iunius Palladius wrote:
>
> > From: Decius Iunius Palladius <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232219108127031050199203252129208071" >amcgrath@--------</a>
> >
> > Salvete!
> >
> > Included on the ballot will be a proposal to increase the century point
> > value of the Vigintisextviri from 5 points to 12. This will give the
> > position points commensurate with the work involved and will reflect the
> > importance of the position.
> >
> > Valete,
> >
> > Decius Iunius Palladius,
> > Consul
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > "Quis ita familiaris est barbaris,
> > ut aram Victoriae non requirat!"
> >
> > Quintus Aurelius Symmachus
> >
> >
>
>

Subject:	Re: Webmaster Offer and NovaRoma's Window
From:	"LegionXXIV" LegionXXIV@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:39:46 -0500

VICESIMA - QUARTA
LEGION XXIV - MEDIA - ATLANTIA

* PROVINCIA PENNSYLVANIA *
* MEDIA - ATLANTICA * AMERICIA *

Defending the Frontiers of Ancient Rome
in the Mid - Atlantic Province
of North America

December 1, 1999
Year of Rome 2752

Avete et Salutatio... Nova Roma Romanae

Hello and Greetings from Gallio Velius Marsallas,
Praefectus, Legio XXIV Media-Atlantia;
Tribune Militaris - NovaRoma - Gens Velia
aka George W. Metz
13 Post Run Newtown Square, PA 19073-3014
<a h--------"/post/nova--------?p--------ctID=034056178009193116001195151189114012071048139" >legionXXIV@--------</a> 610-353-4982
<a href="http://www.legionXXIV.org" target="_top" >http://www.legionXXIV.org</a>

I have lurked and sometimes carped about various
situations in NovaRoma; SO. . . its probably about
time I offered to help-out.

I will offer to maintain the NovaRoma website.
I do not see any need, nor am I interested in making
major changes or revisions to the Site.
I think it is pretty good right now and who ever put it
together did a good job. It would be best if that
individual would continue to maintain it OR I assist
them to maintain it.

I have an extensive websight for my Legion XXIV MA;
which was built via the FrontPage98 editor.
I would appreciate having a telephone conversation
with the past webmasters to determine if I am up to
task and what I should know or learn to take over.
My phone is 610-353-4982 or I will call you if you
e-mail your phone number.

I am retired and should have the time to simply
maintain and update the NR Site as needed.

By the way; the NovaRoma List has been more
civilized over the last month or so.
Maybe Fimbria has been cracking down?
Whatever. . . Let's keep it that way.
The "List" is a window on our Nation.
A window that should, and has to provide, a
favorable and pleasing view to those who would
happen to peer through it upon NovaRoma.

Check out our Website <a href="http://www.legionxxiv.org" target="_top" >http://www.legionxxiv.org</a>
It is loaded with links to other roman legions, suppliers
and contacts, along with historical roman organizations
and data. Our "Links" pages, "Roman Names" page,
"Glossary" and "TimeLines" are quite comprehensive.
Take a look.

As always, I remain;
(with the recent discussion - take your pick)

Tuus in Sodalicio Imperium Romanae
Yours in the Comradeship of the Roman Empire

Tuus in Sodalicio Respublica Romanae
Yours in the Comradeship of the Roman Republic

Gallio / George


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-----Original Message-----
From: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 3:10 AM
Subject: [novaroma] Digest Number 645

Subject:	Re: Edictum
From:	"Antonio Grilo" amg@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:24:07 -0000

Salvete Curator Germanice et omnes

I thank Curator Germanice for his confidence and I promise to fulfil his and
your expectations for improving and maintaining the NR site.

Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus


-----Original Message-----
From: Flavius Vedius Germa--------s <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 2:03 AM
Subject: [novaroma] Edictum


>From: "Flavius Vedius Germa--------s" <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a> >
>Salvete Omnes,
>
>It is with great pleasure that I would like to announce that Antonius
>Gryllus Graecus has volunteered for, and has been appointed to the position
>of Scribus to me in my capacity as Curator Araneum. I thank him for his
>offer, and his continued service to Nova Roma.
>
>Valete,
>
>Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
>Curator Araneum
>
>>

Subject:	Re: Deadline Extended
From:	"Antonio Grilo" amg@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:37:03 -0000

Salvete cives

>Salvete! I hereby extend the dealine for people to announce their
>candidacies for offices elected by the comitia centuriata--the offices of
>censor, consul and praetor. All the other offices are elected by the
>comitia populi tributa, which is being convened by Lucius Cornelius Sulla.
Except those of Aedilis Plebis and Tribunus Plebis which are elected by the
Comitia Plebis Tributa convened by the Tribuni.

Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Tribunus Plebis


-----Original Message-----
From: Decius Iunius Palladius <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232219108127031050199203252129208071" >amcgrath@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 9:34 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Deadline Extended


>From: Decius Iunius Palladius <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232219108127031050199203252129208071" >amcgrath@--------</a>
>
>
>
>Salvete! I hereby extend the dealine for people to announce their
>candidacies for offices elected by the comitia centuriata--the offices of
>censor, consul and praetor. All the other offices are elected by the
>comitia populi tributa, which is being convened by Lucius Cornelius Sulla.
>
>The deadline is now 1800 Roman time, (1200 EST, 0900 Pacific Time),
>December 1. The ballot will then be complete and will be published.
>
>Valete,
>
>Decius Iunius Palladius,
>Consul
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "Quis ita familiaris est barbaris,
> ut aram Victoriae non requirat!"
>
> Quintus Aurelius Symmachus
>
>>

Subject:	Re: Announcement for Candidacy (Helena's)
From:	Razenna razenna@--------
Date:	Wed, 01 Dec 1999 18:06:16 -0800

I think that Helena Equitia would make a very good voting official.

C. Aelius Ericius
Propraetor of California Provincia
Senator of Nova Roma
Augur et Pontifex
Paterfamilias gens Aelia.

Subject:	Nova Roma website...
From:	Cassius622@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 23:01:36 EST

Gallio Velius Marsallas,
Praefectus, Legio XXIV Media-Atlantia writes:

>I will offer to maintain the NovaRoma website.
I do not see any need, nor am I interested in making
major changes or revisions to the Site.
I think it is pretty good right now and who ever put it
together did a good job. It would be best if that
individual would continue to maintain it OR I assist
them to maintain it.

Salvete,

AVE to Gallio Velius Marsallas for this offer! The Nova Roma website is a
resource that many of us use daily, and keeping it updated and running
smoothly is an important task.

It seems to me that this makes three people able and willing to do
maintenance work on the NR site. Looks like we have a web team again! ;)

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus

Subject:	Re: Edictum
From:	Cassius622@--------
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 1999 23:01:30 EST

In a message dated 11/30/99 9:03:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=123056091213158116036102228219114090071048139" >germa--------s@--------</a> writes:

<<
It is with great pleasure that I would like to announce that Antonius
Gryllus Graecus has volunteered for, and has been appointed to the position
of Scribus to me in my capacity as Curator Araneum. I thank him for his
offer, and his continued service to Nova Roma.
>>

AVE to Antonius Gryllus Graecus for volunteering for such a needed position!
I for one am much happier to know that the Nova Roma website is in good
hands. :)

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus

Subject:	Ballot for the Comitia Populi Tributa
From:	Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@--------
Date:	Wed, 01 Dec 1999 23:20:24 -0800

Salvete Civies! This Comitia is called to Session to vote for the
following offices and Laws:

Quaestor: (8 Candidates Total)

Patricia Cassia
Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator,
Gaius Imperius

Rogator: (2 Candidates Total)

Helena Equitia Ovidia
Merlinia Ambrosia Artori

Curator Differum: (1 Candidate Total)

Decius Iunius Palladius

Curator Sermonem: (1 Candidate Total)

Lucius Marius Fimbria

_________________

Lex Cornelia de Privatus Rebus

Confidential information will consist of information obtained on the
application for citizenship and on the e-mail address list that can be
obtained from Onelist. This shall also include subscription lists from
the Eagle newsletter.

Censors and Consuls are to be the only individuals who have access to
this information. However, in the event that a lower magistrate might
need some of the information, they are to apply to the Censors to obtain
that information.

Only magistrates or approved magisterial assistants may have possession
of confidential information.

Valete!

Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Consul