Forum Romanum


Subject:	A message from a clueless newbie
From:	Che Monro flirt@--------
Date:	Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:41:25 +1100

Hi, I'm a lime green newbie here and I'm utterly clueless.

I'm not a citizen of Nova Roma, although I'm thinking about it (and
probably need some HELP!)

My interest in Roman culture springs out of a fantasy novel I'm writing.
The country and history are all in face utterly fictional, but described
briefly you might say the setup is something like what might have happened
during the dark ages if the Romans had settled and stayed in Ireland.

Oh and there are also Sidhe.

Anyway that means I've got two cultures to write about - "celtic" and
"roman", neither of which I really know anything much about, so I'm just
making it up as I go along.... *smiles blithely*

Anyway, my book is now moving into it's "roman phase" where the setting
moves to a city which is perhaps a bit like Venice during the classical
revival of the Rennisance - Not really very roman, but making a nod towards
clasical traditions and culture.

Of course since my knowlege of Roman culture is limited to what I learnt in
a high school course in Ancient History years ago, I'm having troubles,
particularly with inventing suitable names and ranks for people.

An added complication is trying to work out "romanized" versions of celtic
names for servants and the like.

Fer instance I had decided on Cornelius for the personal name of the king,
but looking at your naming page, I guess that's a Nomen, so he can't be
called that... He'd have to be um... Something Something Cornelius.

Still, at least that means his daughter could be Something Lucia Cornelius
as I'd been thinking, which is good. Primia Lucia Cornelius?

Hmm, Could he be _called_ by his gens, in the way Augustus might have been
called "Caesar?". Cornelius isn't exactly a title though, is it?

Anyway, look, if any of this interests anyone, or you'd like to read the
first couple of chapters of my novel (which have nothing to do with Rome,
btw), please email me, I'd love to hear from you! *Big Green Eyes*

Cheers,

Che

You have been flirting with Che Monro - The infamous Internet Flirt!
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Subject:	ATTN: Suffragia Comitiorum Plebis Tributorum
From:	"Antonio Grilo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a>
Date:	Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:04:23 -0000

Salvete cives

The plebs of Nova Roma has voted with the following results:

- Tribunus Plebis
Cn Tarquinius Caesar, 6 tribes;
L Sergius Australicus, 3 tribes
2 tribes were won by the runner-up M Virginius Iulianus, and 10 tribes tied.
40 plebeian voters participated, casting 71 votes total: 28 for Caesar, 25
for Australicus and 18 for Iulianus

Aedilis Plebis
38 plebeian voters in 19 tribes elected I Ovidia Luna

Lex Crylla de Securandis Magistratibus Plebis was passed by 16 tribes; 2
tribes voted against, while 2 were tied.

I gladly congratulate all elected candidates and wish that the Gods of Rome
guide their wisdom. As to the defeated candidates, do not demoralize. There
are still plenty of ways in which you can serve Nova Roma and its people,
and improve 'curriculum' enough to beat anyone in the next elections. The
secret is to work hard.
As to the Lex Crylla de Securandis Magistratibus Plebis I would like to
remind the people of NR that the new version (unfortunately not voted) was
much of an improvement, and I appeal to the newly elected Tribunes to
correct the approved lex as quickly as possible. Once again I want to
apologize for presenting the new version after the time of voting had begun.

I take the opportunity to remind you that my term only ends in the end of
December.

Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Tribunus Plebis


Subject:	Re: Digest Number 660
From:	"Artem Kouzminykh" ural_liz@--------
Date:	Tue, 14 Dec 1999 02:09:47 PST

Carissima(-e?) Che,

it seems that you need a good _language_ for your novel, not only the names,
like Tolkien invented his own langs for his books. Something like
romance-celtic (gaelic, britheng) constructed (artificial) language. A lot
of such langs already invented and they look very fresh so may be usefull
for creating an apropriate atmosphere in your fantasy novel. So you can go
to <a href="http://www.egroups.com/group/conlang/" target="_top" >http://www.egroups.com/group/conlang/</a> and ask a question, and these guys
give you a huge number of romance-celtic stuff - langs, proper names,
phrases, names for places and towns etc.;-)

I believe it's better to write "Primia Lucia Cornelia" instead of "Primia
Lucia Cornilius";-))

AVLVS ARTORIVS ARIVS SARMATICVS, CIVIS NOVAE ROMAE SED BARBARVS

LIBERTAS INAESTIMABILIS RES EST

VALETE IN PACE

Message: 4 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:41:25 +1100
From: Che Monro &l--------href="/pos--------varoma?pro--------ID=230128020180175135050082190036" &g--------ir--------..&l--------&g--------r> Subject: A message from a clueless newbie
Hi, I'm a lime green newbie here and I'm utterly clueless.
I'm not a citizen of Nova Roma, although I'm thinking about it (and
probably need some HELP!)
My interest in Roman culture springs out of a fantasy novel I'm writing.
The country and history are all in face utterly fictional, but described
briefly you might say the setup is something like what might have happened
during the dark ages if the Romans had settled and stayed in Ireland.
Oh and there are also Sidhe.
Anyway that means I've got two cultures to write about - "celtic" and
"roman", neither of which I really know anything much about, so I'm just
making it up as I go along.... *smiles blithely*
Anyway, my book is now moving into it's "roman phase" where the setting
moves to a city which is perhaps a bit like Venice during the classical
revival of the Rennisance - Not really very roman, but making a nod towards
clasical traditions and culture.
Of course since my knowlege of Roman culture is limited to what I learnt in
a high school course in Ancient History years ago, I'm having troubles,
particularly with inventing suitable names and ranks for people.
An added complication is trying to work out "romanized" versions of celtic
names for servants and the like.
Fer instance I had decided on Cornelius for the personal name of the king,
but looking at your naming page, I guess that's a Nomen, so he can't be
called that... He'd have to be um... Something Something Cornelius.
Still, at least that means his daughter could be Something Lucia Cornelius
as I'd been thinking, which is good. Primia Lucia Cornelius?
Hmm, Could he be _called_ by his gens, in the way Augustus might have been
called "Caesar?". Cornelius isn't exactly a title though, is it?
Anyway, look, if any of this interests anyone, or you'd like to read the
first couple of chapters of my novel (which have nothing to do with Rome,
btw), please email me, I'd love to hear from you! *Big Green Eyes*Cheers,Che


Subject:	Re: A message from a clueless newbie
From:	"Artem Kouzminykh" ural_liz@--------
Date:	Tue, 14 Dec 1999 02:13:10 PST


Subject:	Welcome To Nova Roma
From:	jmath669642reng@--------)
Date:	Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:57:42 -0500 (EST)

Salve, Che Monro;

Welcome to Nova Roma. There are quite a variety of skills and ideas
represented by the citizens of this micro-nation, and for the most part
they are willing to help any new member gather the information required
to make the decision to join our ranks.

I wish you well in your writing efforts, and recommend you to Fimria,
who has already contacted you, as a source of ideas and data. If I may
help in any specific way, please contact me.

Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


Subject:	Re: Digest Number 657 - Question for the rogatores
From:	SDmtwi@--------
Date:	Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:30:55 EST

Salve Artem Kouzminykh,

> And a again have a question, probably for Rogators this time. Is there any
> possibility to check that I really have voted? I'm not sure of it. Just for
> experiment I inserted a random combination of symbols instead of voter code
> in Cista, and it wrote to me : 'Your vote has been recorded. Thank you for
> participating in Nova Roma's political process'!!!!!! And can one vote only
> for one Lex, or ot is needed to vote all items?

The cista page does not validate your voter code. You can enter anything in the voter code blank that you want. If it did force you to put a valid code in the blank, then it would be possible for you to guess other citizens' codes through trial and error from the cista. Therefore, it is up to each citizen to ensure that he or she enters the correct code. When we rogatores tally the votes, we discard any votes that are not attached to a valid voter code.

Also, the cista does not require you to vote for any of the issues on the ballot. You are free to submit a blank ballot if you so choose. By the same token, you may vote on any or all of the issues on the cista form.

That said, be aware that voting has ended in both the comitia plebis tributa and the comitia populi tributa. Any further votes cast on the issues that were put before those comitia will not be counted. You have until Sunday (I don't recall the time offhand) to vote in the comitia centuriata.

Vale,
T Labienus Fortunatus


Subject:	Sarmatici Latina was Lex Iunia de Magistratuum Aetate
From:	"RMerullo" rmerullo@--------
Date:	Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:06:25 -0500

Salvete

Verba tua sunt recta (yes they are)

Valete

C Marius Merullus

>
>AVLVS ARTORIVS ARIVS SARMATICVS, CIVIS NOVAE ROMAE SED BARBARVS
>
>LIBERTAS INAESTIMABILIS RES EST
>
>VALETE IN PACE
>
>(I'd be delighted if anyone could correct all above Latin phrases or to
>confirm they are correct;-))
>


Subject:	Comitia Populi Results
From:	Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@--------
Date:	Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:28:59 -0800

Salve

I have been given the results from our Rogators. And here are the
results:

Quaestor:

Patricia Cassia - 25 Tribes
Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator - 23 Tribes
Gaius Imperius - 23 Tribes

Rogator:

Helena Equitia Ovidia - 27 Tribes
Merlinia Ambrosia Artori - 23 Tribes

Curator Differum:

Decius Iunius Palladius - 27 Tribes

Curator Sermonum:

Maria Fimbria - 27 Tribes

Lex Cornelia de Privatis Rebus - PASSED
For - 19 Tribes
Against - 3
Tied - 5

Congratulations to all of the Victors!

Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Consul of Nova Roma


Subject:	Re: fiction and political parties
From:	Marius Fimbria legion6@--------
Date:	Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:48:47 -0600 (CST)

Salvete omnes...

Patricia Cassia quaerit:
>Gee, we've got at least two authors - maybe it's time to start a
>Sodalicum Literarium?

I believe Tarquinius Caesar, our soon-to-be-new Tribune of the Plebs,
was working on forming one around middle of last May... Caesar? Any
word??

Yours under the Eagles,
************************************************************
Lucius Marius Fimbria |>[SPQR]<|
(with lots of stories to share)


Subject:	A lot of questions&NR motto
From:	"Artem Kouzminykh" ural_liz@--------
Date:	Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:52:25 PST

SALVETE CIVES NOVAE ROMAE

Please be patient to read some more my naive questions;-)
1) What is Imperium that appears in the Constitution that some magistrates
are holding all the time?;-)
2) Is it possible to get correct (I mean refreshed, this-time, not old) alba
of citizens, tribes, centuries and gentes? I know that it's not easy to html
the and place at www.novaroma.org, bur may be a txt files could be shared in
this list? Do such files exist?
3) Which of tribes are urban and rural? That are patrician gentes? I believe
my own gens is plebeian ;-(( - is it correct?
4) I'd like also to know the names of my gens, century & tribe � or they
only have numbers;-)?
5) What Novae Romae Provincia I am living in (as generally I live in
Russia)? I guess in no one, I live nowhere;-)
6) Has NR a motto/slogan? Is it 'SPQR'? If so, it doesn't look like a good
idea, 'cos IMHO there hardly could be found much sense in 'Senatus
populesque Romane';-) Probably another Latin phrase? How about LIBERTAS
INAESTIMABILIS RES EST � Freedom is a priceless thing?;-) Well, anyway
there's a lot of good Latin phrase available, you know � what about
discussing this point? Since we failed to create the anthem� A motto is more
simple, isn't it, and everyone could participate�

AVLVS ARTORIVS ARIVS SARMATICVS, CIVIS ET BARBARVS NOVAE ROMAE

LIBERTAS INAESTIMABILIS RES EST

VALETE IN PACE


Subject:	Re: A lot of questions&NR motto
From:	Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@--------
Date:	Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:59:52 -0800

Salve!

Here are some of my responses to your questions. I am sure there will be others
who can further answer your questions....Especially our scholars on the list.

Artem Kouzminykh wrote:

> From: "Artem Kouzminyk--------4; <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=224212113078159153036161203004129208071" >ural_liz@--------</a>
>
> SALVETE CIVES NOVAE ROMAE
>
> Please be patient to read some more my naive questions;-)
> 1) What is Imperium that appears in the Constitution that some magistrates
> are holding all the time?;-)

Sulla: Its our source of authority. It is given to us, the magistrates of Nova
Roma by the Comitia Curita.

> 2) Is it possible to get correct (I mean refreshed, this-time, not old) alba
> of citizens, tribes, centuries and gentes? I know that it's not easy to html
> the and place at www.novaroma.org, bur may be a txt files could be shared in
> this list? Do such files exist?

Sulla: That is something that will eventually be on the list. It has to go
between our Censors, who approve the citizens and our Website administrator and
his assistants.

>
> 3) Which of tribes are urban and rural? That are patrician gentes? I believe
> my own gens is plebeian ;-(( - is it correct? There are no Urban or Rural
> Tribes.

Sulla: There are Patrician Gens, I am paterfamilias of the Patrician Gens
Cornelia. I believe your Gens is Plebian too.

> 4) I'd like also to know the names of my gens, century & tribe � or they
> only have numbers;-)?

Sulla: You could e-mail the <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=219056234112193209090218066036129208" >ce--------s@--------</a> a--------hey will have that
information.

>
> 5) What Novae Romae Provincia I am living in (as generally I live in
> Russia)? I guess in no one, I live nowhere;-)

Sulla: Well we dont have a governor for that...the closest provincia is Thule.
If there are people interested in becoming Governor of a future Russian
province, please e-mail me or my colleage Decius Iunius Palladius and we will
try to organize the province, officially.

>
> 6) Has NR a motto/slogan? Is it 'SPQR'? If so, it doesn't look like a good
> idea, 'cos IMHO there hardly could be found much sense in 'Senatus
> populesque Romane';-) Probably another Latin phrase? How about LIBERTAS
> INAESTIMABILIS RES EST � Freedom is a priceless thing?;-) Well, anyway
> there's a lot of good Latin phrase available, you know � what about
> discussing this point? Since we failed to create the anthem� A motto is more
> simple, isn't it, and everyone could participate�
>

Sulla: I am not aware we have a Motto yet.

Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Consul of Nova Roma

>
> AVLVS ARTORIVS ARIVS SARMATICVS, CIVIS ET BARBARVS NOVAE ROMAE
>
> LIBERTAS INAESTIMABILIS RES EST
>
> VALETE IN PACE
>
>