| Subject: |
Re: A message from a clueless newbie |
| From: |
Che Monro flirt@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:29:42 +1100 |
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At 07:43 PM 13/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>From: Lucius Corn--------s Sulla <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a>
>
>Salve!
>
>Welcome to Nova Roma....I am sure there will be many citizens who would be
able
>to assist you....if you have any questions, please drop me a line. My e-mail
>is <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a>.
>
>Lucius Cornelius Sulla
>Consul
Thank you to everyone who has replied so far, your comments have been very
interesting and useful! :)
Che
You have been flirting with Che Monro - The infamous Internet Flirt!
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| Subject: |
Re: A lot of questions&NR motto |
| From: |
"Artem Kouzminykh" ural_liz@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:05:27 PST |
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Lucius Corn--------s Sulla <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a> scripsit:
> > 5) What Novae Romae Provincia I am living in (as generally I live in
> > Russia)? I guess in no one, I live nowhere;-)
>
>Sulla: Well we dont have a governor for that...the closest provincia is
>Thule.
>If there are people interested in becoming Governor of a future Russian
>province, please e-mail me or my colleage Decius Iunius Palladius and we
>will
>try to organize the province, officially.
Respondeo:
I am interested. The question is, whom to govern there? AFAIK there's no
Russian citizens among Novaromans except for me;-( But I'm sure there are a
lot of people in Russia who are interested in AR history and culture, for
example a group of guy from St. Petersburg (Marcvs Valerivs Corvinvs et
alii) from LEGIO X FRETENSIS. You can see their's page at
<a href="http://www.legxfret.da.ru/" target="_top" >http://www.legxfret.da.ru/</a> - recommended.
AVLVS ARTORIVS ARIVS SARMATICVS, CIVIS ET BARBARVS NOVAE ROMAE
LIBERTAS INAESTIMABILIS RES EST
VALETE IN PACE
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| Subject: |
The Latin Library |
| From: |
"Artem Kouzminykh" ural_liz@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:25:52 PST |
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The Latin Library
at Ad Fontes Academy
<a href="http://patriot.net/~lillard/cp/latlib" target="_top" >http://patriot.net/~lillard/cp/latlib</a>
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| Subject: |
Re: ...NR motto |
| From: |
Marius Fimbria legion6@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:18:02 -0600 (CST) |
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Salve, Artori Ari, et salvete omnes:
>5) What Novae Romae Provincia I am living in (as generally I live in
>Russia)? I guess in no one, I live nowhere;-)
I think your area is being referred to as Sarmatia...although I'm not
sure if it's been officially organized as a Province yet.
>6) Has NR a motto/slogan? Is it 'SPQR'? If so, it doesn't look like a
>good idea, 'cos IMHO there hardly could be found much sense in
>'Senatus populesque Romane';-) Probably another Latin phrase? How
>about LIBERTAS INAESTIMABILIS RES EST – Freedom is a priceless
>thing?;-) Well, anyway there's a lot of good Latin phrase available,
>you know – what about discussing this point? Since we failed to create
>the anthem… A motto is more simple, isn't it, and everyone could
>participate…
Actually, we *do* have a motto, a product of the discussion about coins
and stamps last Spring: it's 'ROMA RESURGENS'--'Rome Reborn' or 'Rome
Arises Again'. As to the anthem, we have not 'failed to create' one;
we're simply still discussing it. (The last time this came up,
somebody pointed out that the United States did not have an anthem
until the War of 1812...and it wasn't officially adopted for several
decades after that; and there's *still* talk of changing it to 'America
the Beautiful'!)
Yours under the Eagles...
************************************************************
Lucius Marius Fimbria |>[SPQR]<|
mka Märia Villarroel |\=/|
<a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a> ( ~ 6 )~~~----...,,__
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and Citizen of Nova Roma ``=.\ (__==\_ /\ }
'Just a-hangin' around the Universe, | | / )\ \| /
bein' a Roman... It's hard work, _|_| / _/_| /`(
but SOMEbody's gotta do it!!' /./..=' /./..'
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| Subject: |
Re: No Need Of Parties In NR. |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:58:42 EST |
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In a message dated 12/15/99 9:50:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
&-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=034233091161146153033082190" >--------@--------&--------a> writes:
<< I think we don't need any party here in NR, at least now >>
There's always a need for a party!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
The Centerpiece???? |
| From: |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:48:08 -0600 |
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I was re-reading the NR webpage. It states:
The centerpiece of the activities of NOVA ROMA is the Religio
Romana; the ancient faith of
the people of Rome. Both the household religion
and the so-called State religion are vital to
the Religio Romana, and both are represented in
the practices of NOVA ROMA. Our
long-term goal is the restoration of the ancient priestly Collegiae
and the honoring of the full cycle of Roman holidays
throughout the year. For now, we must make do with a schedule
that is practical and the training of individuals who wish to
take up the sacred offices.
I thought it was the rebuilding of ancient rome. I don't think it has
changed. Has it? I can't remember WHAT it said a year ago, truth
be told.
Pax,
Crys
Priestess of Juno
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| Subject: |
Re: The Centerpiece???? |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:49:17 -0800 |
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It said the same thing a year ago.
Sulla
Don and Crys Meaker wrote:
> From: "Don an--------ys Meaker" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=230166014180193192112218004036129208" >famromo@--------</a>
>
> I was re-reading the NR webpage. It states:
>
> The centerpiece of the activities of NOVA ROMA is the Religio
> Romana; the ancient faith of
> the people of Rome. Both the household religion
> and the so-called State religion are vital to
> the Religio Romana, and both are represented in
> the practices of NOVA ROMA. Our
> long-term goal is the restoration of the ancient priestly Collegiae
> and the honoring of the full cycle of Roman holidays
> throughout the year. For now, we must make do with a schedule
> that is practical and the training of individuals who wish to
> take up the sacred offices.
>
> I thought it was the rebuilding of ancient rome. I don't think it has
> changed. Has it? I can't remember WHAT it said a year ago, truth
> be told.
>
> Pax,
> Crys
> Priestess of Juno
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| Subject: |
Re: No Need Of Parties In NR. |
| From: |
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/td>
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:31:37 -0500 (EST) |
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Salve, Dexippus;
Welcome Back to the Onelist! Parties are always necessary.I agree.
What do politicians know???
Marcus Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: No Need Of Parties In NR. |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:34:36 -0000 |
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Salvete
There are indeed parties in Nova Roma. I confess I'm belong to one (of
course I won't reveal the identities of my fellows =)). In ancient Rome,
parties were more like 'brotherhoods' of magistrates. Take as an example the
Populares and Optimates. They would simply strive to put their own men in
the key political places. Nothing wrong about that if they are competent and
respect the Constitution, right?
Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
-----Original Message-----
From: James Mathe--------lt;a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] No Need Of Parties In NR.
>From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/font>
>
>Salve, Dexippus;
>
>Welcome Back to the Onelist! Parties are always necessary.I agree.
>What do politicians know???
>
>Marcus Audens
>
>Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
>
>>
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| Subject: |
Re: A lot of questions&NR motto |
| From: |
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/td>
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:20:04 -0500 (EST) |
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Salve, Artem Kouziminykh;
I beg leave to correct you. We have not "failed" at coming to an
anthem. It is an on-going discussion, and not one which is even close
to being consigned to failure.
Nova Roma IS a counrty, in both spirit and in actuality. We don't have
some of the problems relating to a country having physical boundaries to
protect or internal problems of certain kinds, it is true. However , we
have unique problems and we have the interest and willingness of some
very good people to channel, appreciate and to utilize. Your negative
comments about something with which you are self-admittedly still
inquiring about are neither enlightenig nor are they needed.
You are most welcome here, to learn and to share, but perhaps it would
be better to temper your comments with some thought and insight about
how those comments might effect those whom have worked long and hard for
what NR is, what it stands for, and what its hopes are for the future,
before you release them for general consumption.
Vale;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Fwd: Comitia Populi Results |
| From: |
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/td>
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:27:40 -0500 (EST) |
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Salvete, Candidates;
My personal congratulations to you all. You have personified the best
of that which is Nova Roma by setting aside some of your valuable time
to provide your guidance and your ideas to NR. My additonal
congratulations that you have been given ths privaledge, and I look
forward to working with all of you in the coming year.
Valete;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
From: Lucius Corn--------s Sulla <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a>
Salve
I have been given the results from our Rogators. And here are the
results:
Quaestor:
Patricia Cassia - 25 Tribes
Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator - 23 Tribes
Gaius Imperius - 23 Tribes
Rogator:
Helena Equitia Ovidia - 27 Tribes
Merlinia Ambrosia Artori - 23 Tribes
Curator Differum:
Decius Iunius Palladius - 27 Tribes
Curator Sermonum:
Maria Fimbria - 27 Tribes
Lex Cornelia de Privatis Rebus - PASSED
For - 19 Tribes
Against - 3
Tied - 5
Congratulations to all of the Victors!
Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Consul of Nova Roma
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| Subject: |
Re: No Need Of Parties In NR. |
| From: |
"RMerullo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:52:08 -0500 |
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Salvete Luci Annee et alii
Well said. We need parties about as much as we need a Minister of Defense,
or a NR equivalent of NASA.
We already have differences of opinion among citizens, even extending into
the magistrates and senators. I see no need to formalize antagonism.
It is interesting that you include taxes in the list of things that need not
concern us. Most magistrates and senators happen to be for instituting
taxes in NR.
Valete
C Marius Merullus
>From: &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=034233091161146153033082190" >--------@--------&--------a>
>
>I think we don't need any party here in NR, at least now.
>Here in NR in fact we all try to improve our Republic, we all go over the
same way: this also happens in all countries of the world (at least it
should be this way...), where the parties work for the well of their nation,
even if with different point of views; but we've to consider (as I said TOO
many times) that NR it isn't a real nation, and consequently our tasks and
objectives are not the same of a real nation. This because is obviously
IMPOSSIBLE to realize some of the things that a real nation makes: for
example we'd never have to carry about unemployment, pollution, taxes (!!!)
nor every other problems of a real nation (and this is probably a luck!).
Even parties then wouldn't have the same fundamental role they have in our
mother-countries: or would you image in NR a democratic party defending
> the working-class, the welfare state and fighting for their rights, and a
republican party tending to protect the high-class? This is unreal in NR:
and above all, we already have tribuni plebis and adiles plebis that protect
plebeians.
>Then there's another important thing: NR is not a form of direct democracy,
but we are very close at it: in these election we are voting for laws
DIRECTLY, the choice is ours, we're not represented in this voting by none,
as it happens in democratical countries: then what would be the role of
these parties in NR? That is why I can't see the benefit of parties in Nova
Roma at the moment; maybe in future we'll need of those, but, frankly, I
don't really see this necessity.
>
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| Subject: |
Re: No Need Of Parties In NR. |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:06:23 EST |
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In a message dated 12/15/99 6:58:53 AM Pacific Standard Time,
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------; writes:
<< There's always a need for a party!
--Dexippus >>
Dex, Not that kind of party!
QFM
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| Subject: |
Re: No Need Of Parties In NR. |
| From: |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:14:45 -0600 |
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On 15 Dec 99, --------5:06, <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------; wrote:
> Dex, Not that kind of party!
> QFM
It's almost Saturnalia. You know how Dex gets around this time of
year!!!!!
Pax,
Crys (getting ready for Dex to swing that gold lame feather boa all
around!!)
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| Subject: |
Re: Suffragia Comitiorum Plebis Tributorum |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:58:55 EST |
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Salvete!
Congratulations to our new Tribunus Plebis Cn Tarquinius Caesar, L Sergius
Australicus. I know they will represent the populace well. I have been
fortunate to meet Tarquinius, a bright young man with many ideas and much
passion for things Roman. I have not have the pleasure of meeting Sergius.
Thank you gentlemen.
Congratulations is also in order to our Plebian Aedilis, Ovida.
I also congratulate all the Plebs who voted, taking the time and effort to
contribute to the NR political process. With you there is no NR.
The Gods of Rome preserve & guide our republic.
Valete
Q. Fabius Maximus
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| Subject: |
Re: Re: A message from a clueless newbie |
| From: |
<--------lass="msghead"> "Na-------- Hicks" &l--------href="/pos--------varoma?pro--------ID=029233014237078135050082190036" &g--------man@--------&l--------&g--------td>
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:34:34 -0500 |
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Artem Kouzminyk--------4; <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=224212113078159153036161203004129208071" >ural_liz@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 5:13 AM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: A message from a clueless newbie
> From: "Artem Kouzminyk--------4; <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=224212113078159153036161203004129208071" >ural_liz@--------</a>
>
> Carissima(-e?) Che,
>
> it seems that you need a good _language_ for your novel, not only the names,
> like Tolkien invented his own langs for his books. Something like
> romance-celtic (gaelic, britheng) constructed (artificial) language. A lot
> of such langs already invented and they look very fresh so may be usefull
> for creating an apropriate atmosphere in your fantasy novel. So you can go
> to <a href="http://www.egroups.com/group/conlang/" target="_top" >http://www.egroups.com/group/conlang/</a> and ask a question, and these guys
> give you a huge number of romance-celtic stuff - langs, proper names,
> phrases, names for places and towns etc.;-)
Actually, Tolkien relied mainly on Anglo-Saxon. A lovely language.
He did corrupt the spelling a bit, but most of it is recognizable.
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| Subject: |
Re: Re: ...NR motto |
| From: |
"Artem Kouzminyk--------4; <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=224212113078159153036161203004129208071" >ural_liz@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:50:45 PST |
|
SALVE MARI FIMBRI ET AVETE ALII
>From: Mariu--------mbria <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a>
>
> >5) What Novae Romae Provincia I am living in (as generally I live in
> >Russia)? I guess in no one, I live nowhere;-)
>
>I think your area is being referred to as Sarmatia...although I'm not
>sure if it's been officially organized as a Province yet.
Umm, Sarmatia sounds good... It can also be Hyperborea as well, though I
know it's Greek word, not Latin, but a number of Greek words were used in
Roman Provinces' names, I believe... 'Russia' is also a bit Latin'looking
word, isn't it? There was also a Province called 'Pontus & Bythinium', I
believe, in Black Sea region...
>Actually, we *do* have a motto, a product of the discussion about coins
>and stamps last Spring: it's 'ROMA RESURGENS'--'Rome Reborn' or 'Rome
>Arises Again'. As to the anthem, we have not 'failed to create' one;
>we're simply still discussing it. (The last time this came up,
>somebody pointed out that the United States did not have an anthem
>until the War of 1812...and it wasn't officially adopted for several
>decades after that; and there's *still* talk of changing it to 'America
>the Beautiful'!)
Sorry, I didn't know. 'ROMA RESURGENS' is OK. Not only for coins;-)
How about State Emblem then?
AVLVS ARTORIVS ARIVS SARMATICVS, CIVIS ET BARBARVS NOVAE ROMAE
LIBERTAS INAESTIMABILIS RES EST
VALETE IN PACE
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| Subject: |
Re: A lot of questions&NR motto |
| From: |
"Artem Kouzminyk--------4; <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=224212113078159153036161203004129208071" >ural_liz@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:34:14 PST |
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Salve,
I didn't meant any 'negative comments', sorry if they look 'negative'. I
wrote 'failed' because I didn't see any traces of an 'on'going' discussion
concerning anthem last few days (weeks?) in this list... Anyway, I was
misunderstood, sorry.
I too think the parties (political ones;-)) are already existing in NR. One
can just look at last-few-months list's archives to see that some _groups_
of citizens with very different political views indeed exist in NR - I
believe they may be considered as parties.
As for thiers purposes, they can be: a propoganda pro et contra certain
Leges and supporting their candidates during various election campaigns.
AVLVS ARTORIVS ARIVS SARMATICVS, CIVIS ET BARBARVS NOVAE ROMAE
LIBERTAS INAESTIMABILIS RES EST
VALETE IN PACE
>From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/font>
>Reply-To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
>To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
>Subject: Re: [novaroma] A lot of questions&NR motto
>Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:20:04 -0500 (EST)
>
>From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/font>
>
>Salve, Artem Kouziminykh;
>
>I beg leave to correct you. We have not "failed" at coming to an
>anthem. It is an on-going discussion, and not one which is even close
>to being consigned to failure.
>
>Nova Roma IS a counrty, in both spirit and in actuality. We don't have
>some of the problems relating to a country having physical boundaries to
>protect or internal problems of certain kinds, it is true. However , we
>have unique problems and we have the interest and willingness of some
>very good people to channel, appreciate and to utilize. Your negative
>comments about something with which you are self-admittedly still
>inquiring about are neither enlightenig nor are they needed.
>
>You are most welcome here, to learn and to share, but perhaps it would
>be better to temper your comments with some thought and insight about
>how those comments might effect those whom have worked long and hard for
>what NR is, what it stands for, and what its hopes are for the future,
>before you release them for general consumption.
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>Vale;
>Marcus Minucius Audens
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>Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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