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Subject:	Re: Re: ...NR motto
From:
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 01:09:46 EST

In a message dated 12/15/99 7:50:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
<a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=224212113078159153036161203004129208071" >ural_liz@--------</a> writes:

<< Russia' >>
Salve.
Actually Sarmatia would be correct. It's on the 70 AD map as such.
Russia of course comes from the Norse Vikings who settled in Kiev area
conquering the local Slav population who called them the Rus. Later they
gave the Byzantines major headaches until they were defeated in the 900s.
Vale
Q. Fabius


Subject:	Political Parties in Nova Roma
From:	"Nicolaus Moravius" n_moravius@--------
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 01:32:04 PST

Salvete, Quiriti!

Scripsit Sarmaticus:

>hey, it looks guys that we really need a political parties to be orginized
>in NR - to help as naive novices to find all way in a dark forest of NR's
>politics;-)) I guess a kind of political parties were indeed existed in AR
>(ancient Rome), at least in Imperial era, am I wrong?

Respondeo: the Gods forbid! If I have lost my naivete about anything in my
life so far, it is to do with the (commonly-held) delusion that members of
political parties all hold the same beliefs, have the same values and
aspirations, and agree as to the best means of realising those aspirations
and promoting those values. My experience so far shows me that people join
and support political parties to further their own personal agendas (whether
selfish or altruistic).

For myself, I have found friends and enemies (and people who I don't esteem
worthy of being either!) in virtually every part of the political spectrum -
honest people, fools and criminals of every kind of allegiance. The
categorisation of people and causes and values by party politics is, to my
mind, a kind of false consciousness. People are people, and they are not
better or worse, more right or wrong, according to what colour of ribbon
they wear.

In a small nation like ours, I believe that political parties would be
dangerously divisive. Besides, it is not historically a Roman practice.
True, interest groups tended to form around powerful or influential figures
(and these were sometimes loosely referred to as 'parties'), but the term
was used more in the sense of 'factions' than we understand the word 'party'
today. I believe such 'parties' owed far more to the old Roman patronage
system, too, than to commonly shared ideals.

As things stand in NR, loose groupings of supporters around our more
prominent and active citizens already exists, and there has been remarkably
little acrimony between these groups (largely, I think, because they are
fluid and tend to coalesce only for the duration of high-profile political
issues). But I shudder to think how our late 'Civil War' of June-July this
year might have developed, had the issues been depersonalised and polarised
into political ideology.

Valete bene,

Vado.


Subject:	Need Of Parties In NR - ANSWER
From:	"Artem Kouzminyk--------4; <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=224212113078159153036161203004129208071" >ural_liz@--------</a>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 05:10:40 PST

Salve Lvci Anne LAVRENTI et salvete omnes

I agree with everything Mr. LAVRENTIVS said about NR's direct (real)
democracy. It's great. Actually, asking about NR's political parties (in
fact, that was just about a joke;-)), I meant that *new* members of NR (like
myself) would probably better know that to do at the closest annual
elections if parties exist in NR. I, as a novice, can consciously choose one
from 2 or several parties one that is closer to my beliefs&views, and
support its' candidates and Leges' projects (bills), but cannot choose from
many unknown for me (so far) persons and thiers bills (leges projects). Yes
such phrases as "Republican (Democratic, Conservative, Liberal ...
Social-Democrate, Socialist... Communist;-) ... hope no Fascist!) party of
NR" would look a bit bizarre, but it could help novices. At least
parties/fractions could have the names of theirs leaders, that does not
contradict Ancient Rome's practice, AFAIK.
AFAIK, more and more people are joining NR at the moment, and they, as
myself, perhaps just don't know whom to vote, and which Lex is OK, and which
should not be passed... Personally I wasn't able to vote consciously at last
NR elections, because the names of almost all candidates told me nothing (so
far), and I didn't know were all the leges really needed. So the novices'
voices are wasted. E. g. I didn't vote (except for Minimal Age Law), though
I wanted to - hadn't enough time to stidy all the Leges and didn't know
candidates.

Well, OK, if noone likes the idea of helping novices in theirs first
political steps ;-) let's bury the theme of parties (only political
ones;-)).

BTW were the results of voting Minimal Age Law announced? I didn't see them
yet;-).

AVLVS ARTORIVS ARIVS SARMATICVS, CIVIS ET BARBARVS NOVAE ROMAE

LIBERTAS INAESTIMABILIS RES EST

VALETE IN PACE

>From: &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=034233091161146153033082190" >--------@--------&--------a>
>
>
>Lvcivs Annevs Lavrentivs Civibvs Svis Salvtem.
>
>Replies to my last email "no need of parties in NR" found answers for
>parties in NR, but without motives: I told why I don't think realizable
>parties at now in NR: why instead d' you think they're necessary?
>Sarmaticus wrote that he thinks political parties already exist in NR, but
>I disagree with him: it's true that for example about the Minimum Age Law
>some people was for and other against, but this doesn't mean we have to
>parties. In fact if I and Gryllus have been on opposite sides about that
>subject, it's even possible that next time we'll agree on the same law,
>whereas a person, with my same opinion about the minimum age law, next time
>could have another one different from mine: that 'cos here in NR everyone
>thinks with his brain, and represent his ideas himself. In our real
>countries population has several millions of people, then we can't all
>participate to public life, this would be impossible: that is why we need
>parties and politics in our countries; but here in NR we have the chance to
>represent ourselves in political life: this is the REAL DEMOCRACY! This is
>what happened in Pericle's Athens about 24 centuries ago! And this form of
>democracy is one of the causes because of which I (and many others, I
>think) joyned NR: let's try to don't ruin this great conquest of our
>Republic!
>
>Valete Omnes, et semper Vobiscvm sit Romana Virtvs.
>Lvcivs Annevs LAVRENTIVS, candidate for Praetor.


Subject:	Recent vote
From:	<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 06:20:57 -0800

I would like to thank everyone who voted, whether you voted for
me or not. By expressing your opinion and taking part in the
political process, you helped shape the future of Nova Roma.

With the Gods' help I intend to be worthy of the trust placed
in me.

--
Patricia Cassia . Quaestor, Nova Roma
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Subject:	Recent vote
From:	<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 06:22:58 -0800


Subject:	Recent vote
From:	<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 06:24:37 -0800


Subject:	The Pompei Graffity
From:	"Artem Kouzminyk--------4; <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=224212113078159153036161203004129208071" >ural_liz@--------</a>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:45:01 PST

Take a look at The Pompei Graffity at
<a href="http://www.rvh.khv.ru/latin/epigr/graff.htm" target="_top" >http://www.rvh.khv.ru/latin/epigr/graff.htm</a>

The page is in Russian, so don't be frightened, but there are graffities and
thier texts in Latin.

SARMAICUS.


Subject:	Re: Need Of Parties In NR - ANSWER
From:	"RMerullo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:07:38 -0500

Salvete Aule Artori et alii

If you don't know for whom to vote, I recommend that you ask the candidates
questions in public. Study their answers, or lack thereof. This will tell
you, though not everything, much more than any party affiliation would.

I believe that what Vado said about potential divisiveness is quite
accurate. Political parties don't seem to be doing much good in modern
macronations, to my observation -- I hope that they are never instituted
here.

Valete

C Marius Merullus

>From: "Artem Kouzminyk--------4; <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=224212113078159153036161203004129208071" >ural_liz@--------</a>
>
>I agree with everything Mr. LAVRENTIVS said about NR's direct (real)
>democracy. It's great. Actually, asking about NR's political parties (in
>fact, that was just about a joke;-)), I meant that *new* members of NR
(like
>myself) would probably better know that to do at the closest annual
>elections if parties exist in NR. I, as a novice, can consciously choose
one
>from 2 or several parties one that is closer to my beliefs&views, and
>support its' candidates and Leges' projects (bills), but cannot choose from


Subject:	Election results.
From:	Megas-Rob--------n <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232178182078116015056190036129" >amgunn@--------</a>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:22:40 -0800

Avete Omnes!

Primus: I apologize for a lack of recent, meaningful e-conversation, my
electro-beast is acting balky again.

Secondus, and most importantly: Mille Gratias for allowing me to serve
another tern as Quaestor. With the renewed Res Publica, may the coming year
be one of further growth and the amicable fullfillment of duties.

In Amicus et Duospiritus - Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, Quaestor et
Quaestor Elect, Paterfamilias, Cives


Subject:	Potential Roman setllement in Ireland
From:	"Jacqui" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045166219210194132015171190036129" >jacqui@--------</a>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:36:41 -0000

I apologise if my understanding is wrong as I am no expert in this area

I learnt at school that Wales was settled by the Romans who then intermarried with the locals (Britons). Unlike the rest of Great Britain, apart from bits of Cornwall, these settlements were left untouched by the N European barbarian invasions (which is why Welsh is a mixture of Latin and the ancient pre-Roman language called I think Brythonic). Although there was no direction from Rome, the role of the Christian church was very important in keeping the society 'civilised'. This position continued until 1068 or so when the Normans invaded S Wales, leaving only West /Mid / North Wales as a Romano-Celtic civilisation. It is even possible to claim that the western Roman Empire did not finally disappear until the union of England and Wales when Edward I finally subdued (i.e. massacred the inhabitants of) Gwynedd in the late thirteenth century

Presumably a fictional Roman settlement in Ireland during the dark ages would not have been very different to those found in reality in places like Caerleon, Caernarvon Carmarthen etc. Our local bookshop has a paperback book by John Davis ' A History of Wales' which is probably available from one of the Internet booksellers is an interesting book in itself, and has a very long bibliography covering the history of the area at this time.

I think that Roman remains have been found about 10 years ago in Dublin (Gaelic for Blackpool - I didn't know that before) - what happened to the Romans living there ? - or have I got that wrong as well ?

Pob hwyl i chi

Chris Barnes


Subject:	Pompeii Exhibit.
From:
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:03:27 EST

Salvete
All those planning to attend my trip to the getty Sunday to see the Pompeii
exhibit let me know now. I have to purchase tickets today. I have four
people going at present time. We will be viewing on Sunday 19th at 12:00 PM-
?
Valete
Q Fabius


Subject:	New Members and Political Parties
From:	<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/td>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:20:32 -0500 (EST)

Salvete, Citizens of Nova Roma;

I do not beleve that anyone can say that Nova Roma does not want to help
new members find their balance in this organization. Nova Roma over the
period that it has been in operation has produced one of the best and
most detailed web-sites for a wide and varied explanation of this
organization ranging from those idle browsers who drop by out of
curiosity, to long term members. In addition there is an active
bulletin board, and a chat room, all designed to provide the information
needed to be involved here. In addition to all of that I have
personnally witnessed a steady flow of messages answering all manner of
questions even from those who have apparently not taken the time to read
the web-page provided for such questions, not to mention those messages
taken off the Onelist for a more personal look at how new members can be
helped. In further addition to all that, there are several people on
the list who are involved in specialties of thier own choice who have
bent over backward to assist new people. In the case of specific new
members, these people have responded repeatedly to answer questions
asked on the Onelist. No, fellow citizens, I do not believe that we can
be accused of having "no interest" in new members!!!

In regard to political parties, I am not sure at this point what good
they would do. Others have indicated that political parties are not
necessarily cohesive or informative in a fair and straightforward
manner. They are an outgrowth of a desire to garner the power of the
government, in a place where power is meaningful. Here in Nova Roma
Power is much more related to Service than to Ego, and those who seek
such, soon realize the full measure of what that means in a volunteer
organization, if they did not realize it before.

A better idea might be a Sodalitas / Collegio devoted to review of leges
and candidates similar in makeup and organization to the League of Women
Voters in the U.S. who review the political field and make
recommendations to the electorate on the pros and cons of both laws and
candidates. I would assume that there were like organizations in other
democratic nations. There is, however, a very large drawback to such a
Sodalitas, and that is that it is a lot of work, takes a lot of thought,
and does not provide much "glory" and it may take some time to set up
and get running. Like most Sodalitas applications it must come before
the Consuls for review and be agreed to by the Senate. This may be a
wait, in my view, that those who wish to have everything immediately may
not wish to consider. The point here is that there are many simpler
ways of acquiring the institutions that we wish to have than creating an
organization which in the past has destroyed nearly as many good ideas
and men / women as it has supported. In my estimation, Nova Roma cannot
afford that kind of toll at this time.

Very Respectfully;
Praetor et Senator;
Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


Subject:	Re: Pompeii Exhibit.
From:
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:11:43 -0800

I plan to attend! I am going to call Porcia Cornelia to see if she is going to
come from Northern California. Helena Equitia is going to attend. Caesar are
you?

L. Cornelius Sulla

<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------; wrote:

> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------;
>
> Salvete
> All those planning to attend my trip to the getty Sunday to see the Pompeii
> exhibit let me know now. I have to purchase tickets today. I have four
> people going at present time. We will be viewing on Sunday 19th at 12:00 PM-
> ?
> Valete
> Q Fabius
>
>


Subject:	Re: Political Parties in Nova Roma
From:
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:10:18 -0800

Salvete Omnes!

I just have to put my observations into this debate. There have been and still
are
some factions in Nova Roma. I am proud of the fact that I was the leader of
the so called "Popularie" faction. It was a faction that was created
well....because I offered to prosecute Fannius in January of this year. From
that incident the Consul Equitius and I continually clashed with me, a Praetor
Urbanus
being not allowed on the Senate Board, because I was not a Senator. I
maintained that I as Praetor Urbanus had a right to know the Senate's workings
so I could do my job. My request was denied. At that time it was decided that
there must be a faction dedicated to opening up our closed government. I and
many others agreed to implimate that idea. Stress, closed government meetings
and a feeling of helplessness, not just from citizens but from other Curule
Magistrates, began to build up to a point
that the Boni Faction (closed Nova Roma) eventually tried to, still debated as
to exactly what - whether they wanted to overthrow the government or just the
Censors, (given I have still never seen the acutal document) causing the so
called
"Social War." But, in the end, the Popularies did triumph, the constitution
rewritten and in my opinion Nova Roma is a much better organization becuase
of it. I am proud to be called one of the members of that faction. Whats
ironic, is
that many of our respected founding Senators felt it was our faction that was
bringing down Nova Roma, when actually, as I continually told them we wanted
to make Nova Roma more representative and now it is. So factions are a good
thing in NR. There are times in Nova Roma when they are needed due to differing
goals of our citizens. And there are times like now, when Nova Roma is
progressing at a good rate and faction importance is at a low. One of my most
trusted friends, Q. Fabius Maximus, who I owe a great deal too, has been
instrumental in overseeing the faction when there was little doubt when I would
have been "exiled to Rhodes." for my imagined participation in the attempted
"coup." Thus my position as Praetor Urbanus,
my citizenship and my very existence in Nova Roma would have been wiped away.
Without the support of my friends, peers, and the faction; I know I would have
been "exiled." So factions do exist in here in Nova Roma and have influence.

Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Consul of Nova Roma

Nicolaus Moravius wrote:

> From: "Nicolaus Moravius" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=091089014007127031215056228219114187071048139" >n_moravius@--------</a>
>
> Salvete, Quiriti!
>
> Scripsit Sarmaticus:
>
> >hey, it looks guys that we really need a political parties to be orginized
> >in NR - to help as naive novices to find all way in a dark forest of NR's
> >politics;-)) I guess a kind of political parties were indeed existed in AR
> >(ancient Rome), at least in Imperial era, am I wrong?
>
> Respondeo: the Gods forbid! If I have lost my naivete about anything in my
> life so far, it is to do with the (commonly-held) delusion that members of
> political parties all hold the same beliefs, have the same values and
> aspirations, and agree as to the best means of realising those aspirations
> and promoting those values. My experience so far shows me that people join
> and support political parties to further their own personal agendas (whether
> selfish or altruistic).
>
> For myself, I have found friends and enemies (and people who I don't esteem
> worthy of being either!) in virtually every part of the political spectrum -
> honest people, fools and criminals of every kind of allegiance. The
> categorisation of people and causes and values by party politics is, to my
> mind, a kind of false consciousness. People are people, and they are not
> better or worse, more right or wrong, according to what colour of ribbon
> they wear.
>
> In a small nation like ours, I believe that political parties would be
> dangerously divisive. Besides, it is not historically a Roman practice.
> True, interest groups tended to form around powerful or influential figures
> (and these were sometimes loosely referred to as 'parties'), but the term
> was used more in the sense of 'factions' than we understand the word 'party'
> today. I believe such 'parties' owed far more to the old Roman patronage
> system, too, than to commonly shared ideals.
>
> As things stand in NR, loose groupings of supporters around our more
> prominent and active citizens already exists, and there has been remarkably
> little acrimony between these groups (largely, I think, because they are
> fluid and tend to coalesce only for the duration of high-profile political
> issues). But I shudder to think how our late 'Civil War' of June-July this
> year might have developed, had the issues been depersonalised and polarised
> into political ideology.
>
> Valete bene,
>
> Vado.
>
>


Subject:	Re: No Need Of Parties In NR.
From:
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:12:42 EST

In --------ss--------d-------- 12/15/99 3:07:06 PM E--------rn St--------rd Time, <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------;
writes:

<< Dex, Not that kind of party! >>

Yes...as I have now gathered from reading these posts!

I was like, "No Parties???? Are these folks nuts????"

LOL....

--Dexippus


Subject:	Re: No Need Of Parties In NR.
From:
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:13:44 EST

In a message dated 12/15/99 3:11:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=230166014180193192112218004036129208" >famromo@--------</a> writes:

<< It's almost Saturnalia. You know how Dex gets around this time of
year!!!!! >>

Yep! I have my Saturnalia altar all ready to go (Read my Saturnalia Menorah
write-up from last year). Have parties scheduled all weekend so... IO
SATURNALIA!!!!!

--Dexie


Subject:	Re: No Need Of Parties In NR.
From:
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:06:49 EST

SALVE!

<< Yep! I have my Saturnalia altar all ready to go (Read my Saturnalia
Menorah
write-up from last year). Have parties scheduled all weekend so... IO
SATURNALIA!!!!!
>>

I enjoy the Saturnalia emensly, the local chapter of the JCL has had a party
following as many Saturnalia traditions as possible for the past 3 years.
But actually my faviorite Roman Holiday is the Neptunalia (total riot with
bonfires 50 people and some kegs...LOL)

Vale!

Iulius Thompsonus


Subject:	Re: Political Parties in Nova Roma
From:	"RMerullo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:17:45 -0500

Salvete Luci Corneli et alii

I had never heard of any "populares" here in Nova Roma, outside of the
Social War game that our aedilis curulis, Q Fabius, organized.

The popular faction must work so secretly and efficiently that its presence,
and influence, cannot be detected by even the most studious, continual
observation of Nova Roma.

Please, let's not make a big deal out of divisions among us, not boast about
having broken the rules. Let's move forward in building Nova Roma. We have
a lot of work to do.

Valete

C Marius Merullus

>From: Lucius Corn--------s Sulla <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a>
>
>
>I just have to put my observations into this debate. There have been and
still
>are
> some factions in Nova Roma. I am proud of the fact that I was the leader
of
>the so called "Popularie" faction. It was a faction that was created


Subject:	Re: Re: Political Parties in Nova Roma
From:
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:18:29 -0800

RMerullo wrote:

> From: "RMerullo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a>
>
> Salvete Luci Corneli et alii
>
> I had never heard of any "populares" here in Nova Roma, outside of the
> Social War game that our aedilis curulis, Q Fabius, organized.
>

Sulla: Yes there are/were. Most of the Old Senate knew about us. As a matter
of fact, before the crises. I was in communication with Cassius in detail about
our goals, mission and who we were. It was unfortunate that we were kind of
thrown together in the first place. However since the crises. Most of the
reforms that we wanted and strived to implement have been implemented by
Germancius as Dictator.

>
> The popular faction must work so secretly and efficiently that its presence,
> and influence, cannot be detected by even the most studious, continual
> observation of Nova Roma.
>

Sulla: Well we did have our own chat room. Which I did not create. There were
personal invites. And some members of the Senate were aware of it. Some of us
met face to face to discuss strategy or via phone calls.

>
> Please, let's not make a big deal out of divisions among us, not boast about
> having broken the rules. Let's move forward in building Nova Roma. We have
> a lot of work to do.
>

Sulla: I am not trying to make a big deal out of it. I just feel we shouldnt
forget history. As, Lucius Equitus pointed out I had no part of the Crises.
But the faction did exist. Therefore we shouldnt say that there no differences
in Nova Roma. There were alot of differences. Some of those differences ran
deep. Probably for some people still do. My Fiancee, who's B-day is today, is
Proud to be a Boni. She tells me every day. And, I think that is great, that
she feels proud to share values and opinions that cater to a group of
individuals. So it doesnt matter what side of the fence you are on. Becuase we
are all loyal to Nova Roma. Hope this explains my thoughts a bit better.

Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Consul

>
> Valete
>
> C Marius Merullus
>
> >From: Lucius Corn--------s Sulla <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a>
> >
> >
> >I just have to put my observations into this debate. There have been and
> still
> >are
> > some factions in Nova Roma. I am proud of the fact that I was the leader
> of
> >the so called "Popularie" faction. It was a faction that was created
>
>


Subject:	Election results.
From:	Gaius Imperius <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=123166020182099132072147163148231077163098100046209130" >gaiusimperius@--------</a>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:21:30 -0800 (PST)

Salve

I would like to thank all those who have voted for me
(and all thsoe who have simply voted) and entrusted me
with the office of Quaestor.
I hope to carry out my duties to the best of my
abalities and to your satisfaction fellow Quirites.

Vale
Gaius Imperius
Quaestor

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Subject:	Re: Re: Political Parties in Nova Roma
From:	"Artem Kouzminyk--------4; <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=224212113078159153036161203004129208071" >ural_liz@--------</a>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:05:31 PST

>From: Lucius Corn--------s Sulla <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a>

So it doesnt matter what side of the fence you are on. Becuase we
>are all loyal to Nova Roma.

Wow, it sounds great for a good NR's motto!!! One just need to translate it
into Latin;-)
(That was an attempt to joke;-))

SARMATICUS


Subject:	Re: Re: Political Parties in Nova Roma
From:
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:48:56 -0800

Salve!

I agree completely. This was a unique year. For in a period of about 4 months
we had 3 elections. This was very uncommon. And, should not be the norm. The
candidates who we elect this month, will be the office holders for the entire
year.

Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Consul

<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=244212192108059125184229163208114253071048139" >GregTheRed@--------</--------; wrote:

> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=244212192108059125184229163208114253071048139" >GregTheRed@--------</--------;
>
> Salvete,
>
> I don't know if it's necessary for us to form political parties to help
> greenies know whom to vote for. I believe all we need to help them is more
> extensive campaigning before the elections. In fact, I don't even think the
> people who have been citzens since the begining know how all of the
> candidates would run Nova Roma if elected. So, I just suggest that the
> candidates advertise themselves more thouroughly.
>
> Thank you for listening,
>
> Tiberivs Avgvstvlvs Clavdivs
> paterfamilias Gens Avgvstvlvs
>
>