| Subject: |
Consular Religious Aspects |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:04:48 -0500 (EST) |
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Salve, Venator, Pontifex, Augur and Senator;
I thank you sir for your kind words of support and your support in the
subject activity. My feeling in this endeavor is that in the position
of Consul, which was given to me by the Citizens of Nova Roma, it is
within my power to allow certain things to come about. My Consular
Colleague Q. Fabius Maximus is also anxious to bring back fully to the
Consular Offices the interaction between the Secular and Religious
aspects of their duties. This has been brought home as a necessity to
me by the review of Cornelius Sulla's questionaire of the NR
Citizenship, the face to face comments of those NR citizens that I have
met, the NR Magistrates that I have worked with, by those who advise me
in my duties and the E-Mail messages of many others.
I believe that I am secure enough in my personal beliefs to fully
realize the difference between worship and admiration , and I understand
the need for people to have their beliefs honored and assisted, as they
desire it done, without any part of that task impinging on me
personally. My view of the religious plane is perhaps broader than
some, in that I can see clearly the attributes of my beliefs in the
beliefs of others, by whatever name they shall be identified. Those
attributes do not interfere with me in my secular / religious duties ,
nor to my belief in the provision for the announcement and clearance of
a path for others to worship in thier own way.
However, religious beliefs are strangely fragile in some ways whlie
strong as iron bands in others. I have no wish to exceed my position or
through ignorance say or do anything that would cause grief or
unhappiness to any Nova Roman. Such unfortunate aspects have occurred
in the past by much more qualified people than I, and I wish not to
repeat such. With that in mind I would be very safe in maintaining
strictly a secular view of my responsibilities and no-one could gainsay
me that view. I do not, however, choose that path, since I am confident
that wth guidance I can move easily among the Gods and Goddesses of Rome
and do my duties by them as well. To date the College of Pontiffs has
been most generous in it's assistance and I am very grateful for the
kind acceptance of my attitude. That I will lean heavily on my
colleague Q. Fabius Maximus in the coming months for assistance in this
area, is certainly a foregone conclusion.
It is my additional hope that the College of Pontiffs will also assist
me in appraising this Magistrate of what they expect from a willing
Consul in the religious aspect of his duties. You will understand of
course that the final decision in regard to a Consular action must be
mine and that of my consular colleague, but your comments,
recommendations, training, and views are welcome and will be viewed
seriously and with the utmost respect. I have already recieved some
very valuable help and welcome more.
Some Questions:
--How do Pontiffs relate to priests /prietesses?
--How do the Temples of the Gods and Goddesses relate to the College of
Pontiffs?
--How many Pontiffs are there?
--What aspects of the Religio do they represent?
--What are three good basic texts to understanding the Roman Religio?
--What Gods and Goddesses of Rome relate to the aspects of politics and
government, and which to other aspects of life such as:
--The arts;
--Agriculture;
--Commerce;
--War;
--Family;
--etc?
--What is the basic thread(s) of the Roman Religio?
--Where does one begin as a student of the topic?
(Serious Note: If I have made any comments that seem out of place, or
improper, I hasten to assure you that they are unintentional in nature
and innocent in projection--MMA)
However, if I may be so bold as to seem to "teach the teachers", to use
Latin terminology to explain to me your positions and views may be
counterproductive as my Latin is very poor to almost non-existant.
I thank you for this opportunity to give my views on the Office of
Consul in respect to the Roman Religio, and hope that I may serve NR
fully as a Consul in all areas of his responsibility.
Vale, Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Consul
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: Consular Religious Aspects |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:35:23 -0500 (EST) |
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Save, Citizens;
My extreme apologies to Pontiff Ericius and my thanks to Venator for
pointing out my error. My only defense for such an error was the
lateness of the hour and the haste to complete the message!!!
"The hurried I go, the behinder I get"
Salve, My Apologies and Thanks;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Consul
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Roman nomenclature |
| From: |
JSA varromurena@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 9 Jan 2000 13:24:34 -0800 (PST) |
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> << When choosing a nomen, try to avoid names that
> are merely Latinized
> versions of your own name, especially ones that do
> not Latinize well.
> Examples of names such as these are Thompsonus >>
>
> That got a little much to personal there... I chose
> the name Thompsonus
> because the "existing gentes" webpage was not
> constructed so I had no way of
> knowing which gentes I could ask permission to join,
> and then join. And I
> also chose the name Thompsonus after reading this
> portion of the Nova Roma
> website:
>
> Iulius Thompsonus
Salve.
First, when will the gentes page be available at the
NR website? It is the obvious inavailability of this
crucial piece of NR that is causing innumerable
problems.
Secondly, isn't "Iulius" already the names of a NR
gens? Why has it been allowed to serve as a personal
name instead of one of the 15 or so approved Latin
names? It will merely provide for confusion. Is Iulius
Thompsonus a member of gens Iulia or gens Thompsona?
How is it that the censors allowed this to come about?
Third, for those living in Britannia, or those with
Anglian names, I recommend you consult the following
work: Charles Trice Martin, comp., _The Record
Interpreter_, especially pp. 429-450, which lists
Latin equivalents of many English surnames; pp.
451-464, which lists Latin equivalents of many
Christian names; and pp. 345-428, which lists Latin
equivalents of many place-names in Britain and
Ireland. While it may be difficult to get hold of this
volume in the States, I know for a fact that it is
widely available in Britain, usually in the Local
History sections of most larger chain bookstores.
Vale.
L. Licinius Varro Murena
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| Subject: |
Re: Roman nomenclature |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 09 Jan 2000 13:19:23 -0800 |
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JSA wrote:
> From: JSA <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=081166091180193192130061163101147165026048139046" >varromurena@--------</a>
>
> > << When choosing a nomen, try to avoid names that
> > are merely Latinized
> > versions of your own name, especially ones that do
> > not Latinize well.
> > Examples of names such as these are Thompsonus >>
> >
> > That got a little much to personal there... I chose
> > the name Thompsonus
> > because the "existing gentes" webpage was not
> > constructed so I had no way of
> > knowing which gentes I could ask permission to join,
> > and then join. And I
> > also chose the name Thompsonus after reading this
> > portion of the Nova Roma
> > website:
> >
> > Iulius Thompsonus
>
> Salve.
>
> First, when will the gentes page be available at the
> NR website? It is the obvious inavailability of this
> crucial piece of NR that is causing innumerable
> problems.
>
Salve! I have forwarded the old gentes page back to Caesar, the new one is
being currently updated. This will be done when all of the citizens I have
e-mailed respond. I cant stress enough, that this process works both ways.
The Censors cannot do this alone. If you get e-mail from us, please respond
as quickly as possible. Only with active participation can we update and
correct the Citizens list and the Gentes page.
>
> Secondly, isn't "Iulius" already the names of a NR
> gens? Why has it been allowed to serve as a personal
> name instead of one of the 15 or so approved Latin
> names? It will merely provide for confusion. Is Iulius
> Thompsonus a member of gens Iulia or gens Thompsona?
> How is it that the censors allowed this to come about?
>
Every citizenship application I get I forward to Lucius Marius Fimbria who
is listed as my nomenclature. She approves the names and I notify. In the
past, I dont know how they were approved. That is precisly why Decius
Iunius drafted the Censorial Edicta and Flavius Vedius and I published it.
>
> Third, for those living in Britannia, or those with
> Anglian names, I recommend you consult the following
> work: Charles Trice Martin, comp., _The Record
> Interpreter_, especially pp. 429-450, which lists
> Latin equivalents of many English surnames; pp.
> 451-464, which lists Latin equivalents of many
> Christian names; and pp. 345-428, which lists Latin
> equivalents of many place-names in Britain and
> Ireland. While it may be difficult to get hold of this
> volume in the States, I know for a fact that it is
> widely available in Britain, usually in the Local
> History sections of most larger chain bookstores.
>
Thanks for the recommendations! :)
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor
>
> Vale.
> L. Licinius Varro Murena
>
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| Subject: |
Website found |
| From: |
"RCW" alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:30:45 -0800 |
|
<a href="http://www.informalmusic.com/latinsoc/" target="_top" >http://www.informalmusic.com/latinsoc/</a>
This website has a wealth of information on Latin and on the subject Roman Cultural Legacy.
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: |
Winemaking Books |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 09 Jan 2000 21:18:24 -0600 |
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Avete Omnes!
Venator scripsit -
Within my duties as Dominus Sodalis pro Coqueror et Coquus is the search
for information. I found this wonderfully long list of books on
winemaking.
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/winemaking/booklist.html" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/winemaking/booklist.html</a>
Plus a nicely put together page entitled: The Winemaking Home Page
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/1172/" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/1172/</a>
In Amicus - Venator
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| Subject: |
Re: Nova Roma, was Re: JOIN OUR CAUSE!!! |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 09 Jan 2000 22:31:44 -0600 |
|
Avete Omnes!
Venator scripsit:
Here's a copy of a post I sent to the Asatru and Druidic newsgroups in
reply to the ever present "Iulius Caesar Dius" trolling.
In Amicus - Venator
Megas-Robinson wrote:
>
> Hailsan Allir Kin og Kith!
>
> Headers trimmed)
>
> > cqabug wrote:
> >
> > Welcome to the world of the lunatic fringe!
> >
> > Ad Jesum per Mariam,
> >
> > Carlque
> >
> > > Robert S----------------<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=194059020078017198036061175248231208071048" >rs------------------------</a> wrote --------rt--------
> > > <6U%d4.39$<a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=251064229153235057081218066036129208" >Vd.1528@--------</a>...
> > > > Name: Robert Silveira, PONTIFEX MAXIMUS(snippage)
> >
> If anyone has an interest in an organization which is trying to
> (sanely) revitalize the pre-Christian Roman Religion as a large part of
> its reason d'etre, please visit <a href="http://www.novaroma.org/main.html" target="_top" >http://www.novaroma.org/main.html</a>
>
> I am an Asatruar, but these good people have accepted me as a
> Citizen, and have elected me one of their officers for the year. The
> majority Roman Religionists are honest and honorable in intent,
> plus care deeply for the historical significance of what they are
> doing. i am a member of Nova Roma in honor to my maternal Heritage.
>
> I hope this is of use to someone.
>
> May the Blessings of All Holy Ones continue for All herein.
>
> In Frith, under Troth to the Holy Aesir and Vanir
> --- Piparskegg UllRsson Veithmathur
> AKA Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
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