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Re: Lictors, please contact the Pontifex Maximus! |
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<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/td>
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Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:01:36 -0500 (EST) |
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Salve, Pontifex Maximus;
Lictor, Marcus Minucius Audens reporting as requested!!! My ears and
eyes are eager to be filled with the words and visions of the Pontifex
Maximus!!!
Vale, Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Lictor
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Bestowing Imperium |
| From: |
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/td>
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| Date: |
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:38:12 -0500 (EST) |
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Salvete, Citizens and Conscript Fathers:
As a Lictor of Nova Roma, I hereby bestow Imperium upon the duly elected
Magistrates requiring such for the execution of their duties under the
Oath of Office. Hail to the Roman Republic!!
Valete, Very Respectfully:
Marcus Minucius Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: Ianus Again |
| From: |
"Nicolaus Moravius" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=091089014007127031215056228219114187071048139" >n_moravius@--------</a> |
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Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:56:41 PST |
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Salvete, mei populari!
Sic scripsit M. Cassius Iulianus:
>Personally, I have always found this particular representation of Ianvs
>(from
>an old 18th century engraving I believe) to be particularly unlovely.
- I have to admit that, to me, 18thC. engravings of classical subjects
generally seem to lack vigour (though I think Flaxman is pretty good); but
on the plus side, it's proof that we don't always feel a need to go running
to classical sources, as if we were re-enactors rather than
reconstructionists (take note, Pompeia Cornelia, this allows us to admire
and display anything Roman even though our political infrastructure is
republican). In a very general sense, surely it's healthy to use post-Roman
interpretation as well as ancient Roman? (Thus our flag, for example).
>Using
>an image of the God of Doorways is good symbolism to be sure... even if
>perhaps not one that's recognizable to everyone, especially new folks
>checking out Nova Roma for the first time.
- Personally, I remember learning about Ianus at a very early age at school.
Is there a universally-recognisable icon of Roma Aeterna and everything she
is? Was the Divine Augustus easily identifiable on the front page? Did
no-one mistake him for Mars, or the divine Iulius, perhaps? Whatever/whoever
we use, we could add a brief explanatory caption, perhaps?
>
>At the least, I'd be happier to see a better image of Ianvs than this one.
- me, too. One that doesn't look as if he's wondering whether anyone
believes in him any more. I just didn't want to seem unappreciative of what
I thought was a really well-considered effort. Any Ianus is better than
none, I'd say. Good on you, Gnaei Tarquini!
>Perhaps there's a good image of real Classical statue out there somewhere?
- vah! How about a good modern image? Have we no confidence in our own
ability to portray divinity? We could run a competition...
>The old woodcuts have always symbolized the old Victorian views of Rome to
>me
>- stodgy antiquarians promoting the idea that Rome fell because of too much
>vice and paganism, and all that!
- I know what you mean, Marce Cassi, but have you ever considered that some
might well have actually been commissioned by 18thC. crypto-pagan
illuminati? And I think we would do well to remember that it is to the
'stodgy antiquarians' of the modern period that we owe our present-day
general cultural view of classical sculpture as austerely monochrome stone.
That statue of the Divine Augustus would have been painted to look like a
waxwork in its time.
- One thing I never liked about that statue of Augustus, BTW: the way he had
one finger raised, as if to say (well, maybe you'd better imagine what I can
imagine him saying... welcoming, it wasn't).
<AMPUTATIO> it's great to have someone doing updating and
>putting effort into the place. >
- Indeed it is! Valete bene,
N. Moravius Vado.
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| Subject: |
Re: Lictors, please contact the Pontifex Maximus! |
| From: |
Megas-Rob--------n <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232178182078116015056190036129" >amgunn@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:34:28 -0600 |
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Ave Marcus Cassius Julianus, Pontifex Maximus
Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, Lictor scripsit.
I await.
Vale - Venator
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| Subject: |
Ianus |
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| Date: |
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:32:22 -0500 |
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:43:46 PST
From: "Nicolaus Moravius" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=091089014007127031215056228219114187071048139" >n_moravius@--------</a>
Subject: Ianus
Salvete, Quiriti!
I would just like to express my gratification at seeing the divine Augustus
replaced by a rather more senior deity on the front page of the NR website...
What could be better?
My grateful thanks to whoever put the Lord Ianus where he deserves to be!
Pace deorum, N. Moravius Vado.
Salvete,
I too was surprised pleasantly to see the new front page. I had sent many pictures to Caesar to replace those missing from the website that picture was one of them. I scanned it from a book that I found in a second hand book store, 'Virgil and other Latin Poets' by JB Greenough & GL Kittridge. 1895 (a latin "textbook"). There are many other similar drawings throughout the book that I think would look nice placed around the website. I will scan them as soon as we get the proper scanner cable for the new computer, today I hope;-)
Valete, L Equitius
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| Subject: |
Re: Ianus |
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| Date: |
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:08:55 -0800 |
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This reminds me... Cassius, I sent you a bunch of clippings of Roman
graphics last year.
They were line drawings that were suitable for enlarging and using for
T-shirt transfers, etc.
You could enlarge them (via photocopier) and scan them for for the
site. They were illustrations
from a 1901 Roman history book. You can do it in your free time.
[LOL]
Ericius.
Lucius wrote:
> I too was surprised pleasantly to see the new front page. I had
> sent many pictures to Caesar to replace those missing from the
> website that picture was one of them. I scanned it from a book that
> I found in a second hand book store, 'Virgil and other Latin Poets'
> by JB Greenough & GL Kittridge. 1895 (a latin "textbook"). There are
> many other similar drawings throughout the book that I think would
> look nice placed around the website. I will scan them as soon as we
> get the proper scanner cable for the new computer, today I hope;-)
>
> Valete, L Equitius
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| Subject: |
Re: Ianus |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:45:22 EST |
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In a message dated 1/17/00 8:12:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a> writ--------br>
<< This reminds me... Cassius, I sent you a bunch of clippings of Roman
graphics last year.
They were line drawings that were suitable for enlarging and using for
T-shirt transfers, etc.
You could enlarge them (via photocopier) and scan them for for the
site. They were illustrations
from a 1901 Roman history book. You can do it in your free time.
[LOL] >>
Salve,
WHAT? And leave all my country cross-stitch projects?? Lol!!
Seriously, you sent me some good stuff. I'd have been happy to forward them
on to the NR list archives for instance, but they were all lost back in
October when my computer died and had to have it's motherboard replaced. It
really WAS a loss, too... right after that Marcus Audens needed that sort of
thing for the newsletter, and I was unable to suppply it. If only I'd have
thought to refer him to you directly!
The Eagle is now in the hands of Decius Iunius Palladius... any chance you
still have these images and could forward them to him? Line drawings are
vastly preferrable for print,
even though they can seem a little boring for a multimedia technology like
the Internet.
Vale,
Cassius
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| Subject: |
Re: Ianus |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:25:37 -0800 |
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<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------; wrote:
> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------;
>
> In a message dated 1/17/00 8:12:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a> writ--------/font>
>
> << This reminds me... Cassius, I sent you a bunch of clippings of
> Roman
> graphics last year.
> They were line drawings that were suitable for enlarging and using
> for
> T-shirt transfers, etc.
> You could enlarge them (via photocopier) and scan them for for the
> site. They were illustrations
> from a 1901 Roman history book. You can do it in your free time.
> [LOL] >>
>
> Salve,
>
> WHAT? And leave all my country cross-stitch projects?? Lol!!
Think of it being for Roma Mater! LOL
> Seriously, you sent me some good stuff. I'd have been happy to
> forward them
> on to the NR list archives for instance, but they were all lost back
> in
> October when my computer died and had to have it's motherboard
> replaced.
This is possible, if you scanned what I gave you and threw away the
clippings I sent.Yes, folks, I sent Real Paper, clipped [cut with
scissors from a larger piece of wood pulp paper]
of the things to Cassius. The above type mishap is a reason to not
trust a technology until it is
perfected. Such as clay tablets were perfected. =({[;-)
> It
> really WAS a loss, too... right after that Marcus Audens needed that
> sort of
> thing for the newsletter, and I was unable to suppply it. If only
> I'd have
> thought to refer him to you directly!
>
> The Eagle is now in the hands of Decius Iunius Palladius... any
> chance you
> still have these images and could forward them to him? Line drawings
> are
> vastly preferrable for print,
> even though they can seem a little boring for a multimedia
> technology like
> the Internet.
Things getting lost in the cracks when projects and offices change
hands makes itdiscouraging to repeat the photo copying and mailing
project all over again. Particularly
since it entails putting my 99 year old book through being squashed
face down on a
copier glass all over again. It is possible that I still have some
copies somewhere, but
I think I sent the copies I had in my files to NR. ... Or are you
thinking of some other
things that got lost in your Mutha-board?
Ericius.
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| Subject: |
Re: Ianus |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:45:41 EST |
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In a message dated 1/17/00 9:27:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a> writ--------br>
Cassius:
> WHAT? And leave all my country cross-stitch projects?? Lol!!
Ericius:
Think of it being for Roma Mater! LOL
Cassius:
But they *were* images of Roma Mater!
Cassius:
> Seriously, you sent me some good stuff. I'd have been happy to
> forward them
> on to the NR list archives for instance, but they were all lost back
> in
> October when my computer died and had to have it's motherboard
> replaced.
Ericius:
This is possible, if you scanned what I gave you and threw away the
clippings I sent.Yes, folks, I sent Real Paper, clipped [cut with
scissors from a larger piece of wood pulp paper]
of the things to Cassius. The above type mishap is a reason to not
trust a technology until it is
perfected. Such as clay tablets were perfected. =({[;-)
Cassius:
ACK! I do believe I was confusing your images with some .jpg items forwarded
to me by Cincinnatus. My apologies!
Um, that would mean that your stuff fell victim to my filing system. This
would mean that they're quite safe in their original envelope, and sitting at
the bottom of a very large pile of paperwork. >:P Not to worry! I'll find
them! (Well, before Y3K hits, anyhow.)
Ericius:
Things getting lost in the cracks when projects and offices change
hands makes itdiscouraging to repeat the photo copying and mailing
project all over again. Particularly
since it entails putting my 99 year old book through being squashed
face down on a copier glass all over again. It is possible that I still
have some
copies somewhere, but I think I sent the copies I had in my files to NR.
... Or are you
thinking of some other things that got lost in your Mutha-board?
Cassius:
Seriously, since it must have been Cincinnatus' stuff that got lost, I really
DO have your images around here somewhere. I even have the capacity to scan
them in and forward them to Palladius myself, provided I can lay hands on
them.
Vale,
Cassius
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| Subject: |
Re: Ianus |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:16:14 -0800 |
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Good. Good. Our filing systems sound quite similar. ;-)
When you do find them and scan them, put them bask
in the time capsule.... I mean filing cabinet. They'll survive
the next fall of the Roman computer.
Ericius.
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------; wrote:
> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=137166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >C--------us622@--------</--------;
>
> In a message dated 1/17/00 9:27:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a> writ--------/font>
>
> Cassius:
> > WHAT? And leave all my country cross-stitch projects?? Lol!!
>
> Ericius:
> Think of it being for Roma Mater! LOL
>
> Cassius:
> But they *were* images of Roma Mater!
>
> Cassius:
> > Seriously, you sent me some good stuff. I'd have been happy to
> > forward them
> > on to the NR list archives for instance, but they were all lost
> back
> > in
> > October when my computer died and had to have it's motherboard
> > replaced.
>
> Ericius:
> This is possible, if you scanned what I gave you and threw away the
> clippings I sent.Yes, folks, I sent Real Paper, clipped [cut with
> scissors from a larger piece of wood pulp paper]
> of the things to Cassius. The above type mishap is a reason to not
> trust a technology until it is
> perfected. Such as clay tablets were perfected. =({[;-)
>
> Cassius:
> ACK! I do believe I was confusing your images with some .jpg items
> forwarded
> to me by Cincinnatus. My apologies!
>
> Um, that would mean that your stuff fell victim to my filing system.
> This
> would mean that they're quite safe in their original envelope, and
> sitting at
> the bottom of a very large pile of paperwork. >:P Not to worry!
> I'll find
> them! (Well, before Y3K hits, anyhow.)
>
> Ericius:
> Things getting lost in the cracks when projects and offices change
> hands makes itdiscouraging to repeat the photo copying and mailing
> project all over again. Particularly
> since it entails putting my 99 year old book through being squashed
> face down on a copier glass all over again. It is possible that I
> still
> have some
> copies somewhere, but I think I sent the copies I had in my files
> to NR.
> .. Or are you
> thinking of some other things that got lost in your Mutha-board?
>
> Cassius:
> Seriously, since it must have been Cincinnatus' stuff that got lost,
> I really
> DO have your images around here somewhere. I even have the capacity
> to scan
> them in and forward them to Palladius myself, provided I can lay
> hands on
> them.
>
> Vale,
>
> Cassius
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| Subject: |
Imperium for Magistrates |
| From: |
Megas-Rob--------n <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232178182078116015056190036129" >amgunn@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:27:28 -0600 |
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Avete Omnes,
I, Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, a Lictor of Nova Rome, do hereby agree
with the granting of Imperium for the Magistrates for this calender
year, being the 2000th of the Current Era, spanning the 2752nd and
2753rd Anno Urbi Conditori.
Thus write I, Venator
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