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Re: What's Brewing? |
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Tue, 25 Jan 2000 03:04:30 -0600 |
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Salvete omnes!
I finished 5 gallons of an English Stout and 10 gallons of Weizen in the
last few months -- all from Munton's kits. About to brew another batch of
Weizen from a different kit brand and also try my first batch of wine.
Valete!
Gaius Cordius Symmachus
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Subject: [novaroma] What's Brewing?
> From: Megas-Rob--------n <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232178182078116015056190036129" >amgunn@--------</a>
>
> Avete Omnes,
>
> Just an inquiry of a conversational nature.
>
> Any other active brewers or vinters out there?
>
> I currently have a Falernian attempt going (6 gal), plus a cherry-spice
> mead (6 gal), an apple mead (1 gal, test batch - new recipe), an India
> pale ale (6 gal), an American ale (6gal) and a lager beer (6 gal) going
> (its fermenting packed in snow in my garage).
>
> Anyone else have any wines, meads, beers or ales aborning?
>
> In Amicus - Venator
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| Subject: |
Senate Agenda posted! |
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| Date: |
Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:44:19 EST |
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Salvete Quirites,
The Consuls have convened the first meeting of the Senate for this year,
with the posting of the agenda. Controversy is certain (but that's an
easy prediction in Nova Roma). I quote from the Consuls:
On 1/25/00 4:09 AM <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------; (<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------;) wrote:
>Item the first.
>Censors, Lucius Cornelius, and Flavius Vedius have suggested
>the following changes to Century Point System:
>
>I. 30 pts for serving the entire Cursus Honorum (never to be taken away)
>II. Increase of 10 pts for Minor Magistrates.
>III. 5 pts for Lictor Service Current/Past
>IV M. Municius Audens wishes the additional:
> ---Appointment to Legate--10 points;
> ---Establishment of a Sodalitas--20 points;
> ---Appointed to take over management of a Sodalitas--10 points;
>Appointment as a Consular Advisor--5 points (for each appointment).
>
>There is no question that our current system is flawed. If the changes
>above
>are approved the system will function better, with more rewards for those
>citizens who give up their time to help Roma function that much better.
>
>Item the Second
>Confirmation of our current provincial praetors and the continuing of their
>office for an additional year.
>We also purpose that a new province be added to Rome. That of Germany and
>Austria, to be called Germania. We further purpose that the citizen Marcus
>Marcius Rex of Austria be appointed as Provincial Praetor. He is already
>aiding the Censors in tracking down German citizens that have no e-mail
>address by using snail mail and phone numbers. He is committed to the task
>and will make a fine Provincial Praetor.
>
>Item the third.
>That Marcus Municius Audens be confirmed as legatus to the Society of
>Creative Anachronism provided his duties as consul to Nova Roma are not
>hindered in any way by such an appointment.
>
>Item the fourth.
>That the outreach program of M. Municius Audens be granted official
>recognition by the Senate of Nova Roma. Once this is accomplished we may
>began work on definitive publicity program.
>
>Item the fifth.
>That we impose a due structure on the citizens of Nova Roma. While I
>realize, conscript fathers, that this measure will be unpopular, will not
>pass on the first attempt, and will cause a major restructure in Roma's
>charter, I am still committed to it.
>Why? Because if we are ever to accomplish the goals stated by Nova Roma in
>our literature we need more the 600.00 per year. We need 6 times that in a
>year. I have done an unofficial survey, and most citizens seem to be in
>favor of it provided the money is used to accomplish Nova Roma's goals, and
>not line our pockets.
>I know there is no danger of that. We are all honorable men.
>
>Item the sixth.
>That the Senate fill the remaining magistrate positions by appointment.
>Might we suggest that the sooner we carry this out, the faster Nova Roma
>government will run smoothly and accomplish more in this year. Suggestions
>are welcome.
>
>Item the seventh, that we appoint a princips senatus to oversee the new
>proposed Senate web site to be created by our web site master. Put forth a
>name that you would think would make an exemplary princips senatus.
>
>Let the debate about all topics began!
>Valete!
>Q. Fabius Maximus
>M. Municius Audens
There has already been considerable discussion of item three, but there
seems to be a change slipping in here. As I understood the original
discussion, Marcus Minucius was invited by one local branch of the SCA to
work with them as a representative of Nova Roma. This agenda item seems
to make him a delegate to the whole SCA. Senators have already been
debating the benefits to NR, in terms of sharing of historical knowledge
and extending other people's awareness of Nova Roma, balanced against the
fact that we have previously avoided becoming involved with
"make-believe" organizations that don't share our goal of real-world
national status (these are my words -- I'm sure others will state it
differently). The consesnsus has seemed to be that liason with the local
SCA group would be a good thing as long as it doesn't resemble diplomatic
relations with another micronation. The title of "ambassador" was ruled
out for this reason, but the latin equivalent of "legatus" is proposed.
Personally, I would prefer that we use something a little less official
sounding, such as "liason."
Item five is bound to raise an outcry, but I think many must agree with
the Consul's proposal. We will never acquire land, build temples, etc.,
if we don't begin to accrue some funds. In spite of our senators being
honorable men, strict and open accounting for all of the Republic's funds
must be made available to all citizens, and there must be allowances for
citizens whose contributions to the state may take non-monetary form, as
well as for citizens who just can't afford much.
Item seven is the first I've heard of a separate Website for the Senate.
I note that in Roma Antiqua, the title of "Princeps Senatus" (First in
the Senate) was given to the most respected senior senator. I don't think
that should be used for a webmaster in our own Senate. Probably
Germanicus or Palladius deserve the title and honors. I would like to see
a different title for the person who will run the Senate's Website --
perhaps "curator?"
So, debate is opened in the Senate on all of these issues. It is time for
the citizens of Nova Roma to make their views known.
Valete, pro Nova Roma,
Lucius Sergius Australicus
Tribune of the Plebs
cum ballistae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti ballistas habebunt.
(When ballistas are outlawed, only outlaws will have ballistas.)
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| Subject: |
Re: What's Brewing? |
| From: |
"Nicolaus Moravius" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=091089014007127031215056228219114187071048139" >n_moravius@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:17:13 PST |
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Salvete!
Querit Venator:
>
>Just an inquiry of a conversational nature.
>
>Any other active brewers or vinters out there?
>I currently have a Falernian attempt going (6 gal), plus a cherry-spice
>mead (6 gal), an apple mead (1 gal, test batch - new recipe), an India
>pale ale (6 gal), an American ale (6gal) and a lager beer (6 gal) going
>(its fermenting packed in snow in my garage).
>
>Anyone else have any wines, meads, beers or ales aborning?
- Ita! Well, we're semi-active here in Clausentum, really. We've the usual
standard, winter-strength 5 gallon pin of Cerevisia Britannica (Aletheia's
recipe), which should be ready to tap next week, a first experiment at a
black Russian stout weighing in at 1100 which won't be ready for another 2
years, and about 45 gallons of cider which is drinkable now but which should
be at its best in time to distribute at the Floralia :-).
Now, Venator, tell me: what grape variety or varieties are you using for the
Falernian? And at what stage of development is it?
Valete bene,
Vado.
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| Subject: |
Re: Re: What's Brewing?2 |
| From: |
Pierlucio Pellissier <a href="/post/no--------ma?protectID=197154192078018132090232186077172165048048139046" >ppellissier@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Tue, 25 Jan 2000 15:35:55 -0500 |
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> Nicolaus Moravius wrote
> Now, Venator, tell me: what grape variety or varieties are you using for the
> Falernian? And at what stage of development is it?
>
> Valete bene,
>
> Vado.
>
Valete Venator,
I´m waiting for my citizenship, but what the heck a good Falernum is
worth a try.
I brew several kinds of wines from California´s grapes, since their
easier to obtain in the Quebecensis provincia than italian one.
But Falernum is still one my preferred when in Enotria.(in this case the
old nameit semms more adapted)
Actually it is quite difficult to find even in Italy, pardon in Rome i
meant, I just know of two good, I mean GOOOOD producers from Neapolis circa.
Pierlucio in Montreal
waiting to become
Petruslucius Salassus Pelliparius or Pelliccerii
BTW this used to be the real ROMAN name of my gens in documents going
back to 1304 ;-)
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| Subject: |
Re: Digest Number 706 |
| From: |
Shadowhawk <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=061015113150193086170098051067114090071048139" >shadowhawk@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:30:44 -0800 |
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On 25 Jan 2000 08:08:00 -0000
<a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> wrote:
novaroma> Message: 7
novaroma> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:06:58 -0600
novaroma> From: Megas-Rob--------n <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=243232178182078116015056190036129" >amgunn@--------</a>
novaroma> Subject: What's Brewing?
novaroma> Just an inquiry of a conversational nature.
novaroma>
novaroma> Any other active brewers or vinters out there?
novaroma>
novaroma> I currently have a Falernian attempt going (6 gal), plus a cherry-spice
novaroma> mead (6 gal), an apple mead (1 gal, test batch - new recipe), an India
novaroma> pale ale (6 gal), an American ale (6gal) and a lager beer (6 gal) going
novaroma> (its fermenting packed in snow in my garage).
novaroma>
novaroma> Anyone else have any wines, meads, beers or ales aborning?
novaroma>
My wife and I have been brewing together since our marriage 15 years ago
and separately before. Our primary interest is in melomel, occationally
indulging in pymet or methoglyn (Gee one would almost think we like
meads!) With yearly forays into grape wines and regular rounds of
british style ales. My wife Anicia Britanicus, has created some
absolutely fabulous recipies for both "red" and "scotch" style ales.
We brew our ales between 7 and 9% alc. and generally reduce the hop
content. The upshot is they are less bitter (hops were a late medieval
thing anyway) and keep forever. Ah.. I will never forget that last
bottle of scotch ale that I shared with a good friend.. 3.5 years old
and smooth as the finest silk..
Caius Britannicus Falco
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| Subject: |
Diplomacy Sodalitas |
| From: |
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/td>
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| Date: |
Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:36:56 -0500 (EST) |
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Salve, Patricia;
I suspect that you are quie right Pat. I do not believe that there is a
sinister vein running through-out the NR which is deliberatly putting
things off in order to hasten the downfall of the Republic. However,
there is a tendency for citizens to have good ideas which they assume
that people are waiting in the wings to act upon. My friends, I do not
believe such is the situation. The reason that more Sodalicium are not
springing up probably stem from the same old ideas:
--Too much real life work;
--Not enough real life interest in the topic.
Public Relations (PR) is hard work, not only that it is large volume
work with a small percentage of result, which may in some cases add to
the depression. Those not involved in such do not realize the volume of
work as opposed to the percentage of return in such effort.
The person who enters into this effort will be enthusiastic about the
task and about NR. He or she will be supported by a few good workers
and they will not require immediate success to carry them along. They
will not be working at two to three jobs in the real world, and they
will have some free time to devote to the effort. You may have noticed
that there are not a lot of people who meet those requirements around.
Come to think about it, the above description applies to almost eveyone
working in a productive task in NR. Hmmmmmmmmm, no wonder we don't have
a pethora of Sodalicium bursting from our seams!!
Vale, Respectfully;
Marcus Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: Diplomacy Sodalitas |
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| Date: |
Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:42:03 -0800 |
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Salve
I have been still preparing some information on the Sodalica for new Civies.
But it has bascially taken a back seat to my other duties within Nova Roma.
But I do have some information about it at home. :) Also, I have some ideas
that would assist that Sodalica when I am able to get it off the ground.
L. Cornelius Sulla
Censor
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From: James Mathe--------lt;a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a>
To: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=241233018237127190072098203100129208071" >Novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:36 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Diplomacy Sodalitas
> From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/font>
>
> Salve, Patricia;
>
> I suspect that you are quie right Pat. I do not believe that there is a
> sinister vein running through-out the NR which is deliberatly putting
> things off in order to hasten the downfall of the Republic. However,
> there is a tendency for citizens to have good ideas which they assume
> that people are waiting in the wings to act upon. My friends, I do not
> believe such is the situation. The reason that more Sodalicium are not
> springing up probably stem from the same old ideas:
> --Too much real life work;
> --Not enough real life interest in the topic.
>
> Public Relations (PR) is hard work, not only that it is large volume
> work with a small percentage of result, which may in some cases add to
> the depression. Those not involved in such do not realize the volume of
> work as opposed to the percentage of return in such effort.
>
> The person who enters into this effort will be enthusiastic about the
> task and about NR. He or she will be supported by a few good workers
> and they will not require immediate success to carry them along. They
> will not be working at two to three jobs in the real world, and they
> will have some free time to devote to the effort. You may have noticed
> that there are not a lot of people who meet those requirements around.
>
> Come to think about it, the above description applies to almost eveyone
> working in a productive task in NR. Hmmmmmmmmm, no wonder we don't have
> a pethora of Sodalicium bursting from our seams!!
>
> Vale, Respectfully;
> Marcus Audens
>
> Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
>
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| Subject: |
Re: Senate Agenda posted! |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:38:17 -0800 |
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>
> > >Item the fifth.
> > >That we impose a due structure on the citizens of Nova Roma. While I
> > >realize, conscript fathers, that this measure will be unpopular, will
not
> > >pass on the first attempt, and will cause a major restructure in Roma's
> > >charter, I am still committed to it.
> > >Why? Because if we are ever to accomplish the goals stated by Nova
Roma
> >in
> > >our literature we need more the 600.00 per year. We need 6 times that
in
> >a
> > >year. I have done an unofficial survey, and most citizens seem to be
in
> > >favor of it provided the money is used to accomplish Nova Roma's goals,
> >and
> > >not line our pockets.
> > >I know there is no danger of that. We are all honorable men.
>
> Salvete omnes,
>
> Something tells me ;-) this idea wouldn't seem good enough for many
> easterneuropean citizens of NR, take me as an example.
> What taxes? Income tax? How than one to control (check) an income of NR
> citizens, from Sarmatia e.g.? Even my own state doesn't know my real
incomes
> so far;-). (The same problem as the checking candidates' for magistrates
> real ege). Or establish an equal due for everyone, independently of one's
> income? But this seems to even more unfair than income tax. Many other
> questions appear too.
I believe that your later suggestion...a flat tax would be the one NR should
adopt.
L. Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor
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