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	 Morality laws in Rome | 
 
	| From: | 
	 RCL <a href="/--------/novaroma?--------ectID=034166018056078209025218055036129208" >lavenrc@--------</a> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 03 Feb 2000 01:50:47 +1100 | 
 
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<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246243113180119209184102159248147208071048" >St--------eck@--------</--------; wrote: 
 
> I remember reading that during the rein of Augustus Caesar Rome tried to 
> enforce some very strange "Morality Laws". 
 
Most true. One such law included dealing with the act of adultery. If a man came 
in to his house and found his wife commiting adultery with another man, the 
husband could kill the man and his wife as long as they died at exactly the same 
time. However, to do so, the husband also had to insure that both parties were 
killed within a certain distance from 'the scene of the crime'. If the husband 
was able to do this (and one can imagine that it was very hard to do) then the 
death of his wife and the man was considered lawful. If he broke these 
conditions then he would be guilty of murder and dealt with accordingly. 
 
Until this 'moral law' by Augustus Caesar the most common way for a husband to 
deal with an adulterous wife was to either: 
 
1. Submit a bill of divorce which he gave to his wife. If the husband was unable 
to do so in person it was perfectly acceptable to send this bill via a courier. 
One historical reference I found to this involved Pompey the Great - he heard 
rumours about the fidelity of his third wife, Mucia, and eventually took them 
seriously after a few years. Since he was not in Rome at the time he sent her 
such a bill of divorce on the grounds that she was unfaithful. 
2. Have the wife registered as a prostitute which obviously would lead to public 
disgrace since prostitutes were required to wear a wig and distinguishing garb. 
 
Vale, 
Magnus 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Religious Calendar / Services | 
 
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	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:02:18 -0500 | 
 
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Message: 11 
   Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 21:47:24 -0500 (EST) 
   From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------br>
Subject: Religious Calendar / Services 
 
Salve, Pontifex Maximus; 
 
I most respectfully request the following consideration of your Eminance 
in regard to the duties of the Consul.  I would like to have a list of 
the religious observances that I need to be aware of in the month of 
February, and some support from the College of Pontiffs in carrying out 
that listing as the College sees fit. 
 
Cincinnatus: There is the Nova Roma Calendar @ <a href="http://www.novaroma.org/calendar/index.html" target="_top" >http://www.novaroma.org/calendar/index.html</a> 
     And also another WONDERFUL Calendar @ <a href="http://www.clubs.psu.edu/aegsa/rome/romecal.html" target="_top" >http://www.clubs.psu.edu/aegsa/rome/romecal.html</a> 
 
 Both of which have references for "religious observances", Feasts, Festivals, Rituals etc. 
 
I would also like to have assigned to me a Pontff or Priest as a staff 
"chaplain" to make the necessary prayers for me at these special 
observances which I cannot do for myself, such as the opening of the 
Senate and the prayers prior to my voting and the religious observances 
mentioned above<snip> 
Vale, Your Eminance; 
Very Respectfully; 
Marcus Audens 
 
Cincinnnatus: The Potifex Maximus was the MAN in the Senate, he had an 'automatic' seat in the Senate. (this did not give him a vote in the Senate unless he was a voting Senator in any case) 
 
Valete, Lucius Equitius 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Religious Calendar / Services | 
 
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	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:59:12 EST | 
 
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Salve,  
 
Marcus Minucius... if you call me "your Eminance" one more time, and I'll  
start addressing you as "Your Majesty"! ;)  Pontifex Maximus is merely a  
title for the Pontiff who makes official pronouncements on BEHALF of the  
Pontificial College, the real decision making religious body. It's not a  
similar position to the modern Pope, although the Catholic faith consideres  
the Pope to be the Christian "successor" to that position.  
 
(No offense was taken, BTW, and I hope I've given none, but this new title  
gave me a real good laugh this morning!)  
 
I see that Lucius Equetius Cincinnatus has forwarded to you the two sites for  
Roman calendars online. I don't believe there is a precedent for assigning a  
Pontiff to a Consul to assist in religious duties... but the request  
certainly seems fair enough to me. I'll put if forward in the Pontificial  
College immediately.  
 
Vale,  
 
Marcus Cassius Julianus 
 
 
In a message dated 2/2/00 6:50:33 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> --------es: 
 
<< From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------br>
  
 Salve, Pontifex Maximus; 
  
 I most respectfully request the following consideration of your Eminance 
 in regard to the duties of the Consul.  I would like to have a list of 
 the religious observances that I need to be aware of in the month of 
 February, and some support from the College of Pontiffs in carrying out 
 that listing as the College sees fit. 
  
 I would also like to have assigned to me a Pontff or Priest as a staff 
 "chaplain" to make the necessary prayers for me at these special 
 observances which I cannot do for myself, such as the opening of the 
 Senate and the prayers prior to my voting and the religious observances 
 mentioned above. 
  
 I thought perhaps something similar to this had been done prior, and the 
 purpose of my earlier messages was to let you know of my willingness to 
 continue such, for the benefit of the people.  Since you have approved 
 similar requests, I thought perhaps we could continue as we have begun. 
  
 Vale, Your Eminance; 
 Very Respectfully; 
 Marcus Audens 
  
 Fair Winds and Following Seas!!! 
  >> 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Mithracon III | 
 
	| From: | 
	
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	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:58:06 EST | 
 
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Salvete, 
 
Is anyone planning on going to Mithracon III in New Haven, CT April 7 - 9? 
 
I'm thinking about it and it would be great it other NRs will be there. 
 
--Dexippus 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Mithracon III | 
 
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	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:26:37 EST | 
 
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Salve,  
 
Patricia and I won't be able to make it this year, since we'll be getting  
married that month. Sorry to hear we'll be missing both the event *and*  
getting to see you, Dex!  :P  I think you'll have a great time if you do  
attend the Mithracon, and I certainly recommend it to anyone who has an  
interest in the Mithraic Mysteries.  
 
Vale,  
 
Marcus Cassius Julianus 
 
 
In --------ss--------d-------- 2/3/00 4:03:33 PM E--------rn St--------rd Time, <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------;  
writes: 
 
<< Is anyone planning on going to Mithracon III in New Haven, CT April 7 - 9? 
  
 I'm thinking about it and it would be great it other NRs will be there. 
  >> 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Mithracon III | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "RMerullo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:55:04 -0500 | 
 
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Salvete 
 
There's a chance that I may make it down that way.  What is it like anyway? 
What do people do at Mithracon? 
 
Valete 
 
C Marius Merullus 
 
 
 
>From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------; 
> 
> 
>Is anyone planning on going to Mithracon III in New Haven, CT April 7 - 9? 
> 
>I'm thinking about it and it would be great it other NRs will be there. 
> 
 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Re: Mithracon III | 
 
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	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:01:29 EST | 
 
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In a message dated 2/3/00 4:57:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a> writes: 
 
<< There's a chance that I may make it down that way.  What is it like anyway? 
 What do people do at Mithracon? >> 
 
I've never been.  Cassius may be able to tell you more...but I gather it has  
something to do with Mithras.   
 
--Dex 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Re: Mithracon III | 
 
	| From: | 
	
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	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:09:13 EST | 
 
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In a message dated 2/3/00 4:57:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a> writes: 
 
<< There's a chance that I may make it down that way.  What is it like anyway? 
 What do people do at Mithracon? 
  >> 
 
Mithracon is a scholarly rather than religious event... but the people  
attending are a bunch of crazy folks and it was a far better time than one  
would expect such a thing to be. A great deal of information and printed  
matter is shared, and folks give presentations on various topics. These  
"meetings" are interspersed with visits to Yale (neat college town) for great  
food, and trips to the Yale University Library. (Rare and out of print book  
heaven!) It's not a huge event... I believe there were ten of us last year or  
so. Large enough of a group to make it a real meeting, but small enough that  
it was friendly and personal.  
 
There is also a visit to the Yale University Art Gallery, where they have a  
good portion of a *real* Mithraeum, excavated from somewhere in the Eastern  
Provinces. (Um, the ancient ones, not Nova Roma's.) They have some nice Roman  
items presented as well.  
 
I'm quite dissapointed about not being able to get back for this year's  
event! :P 
 
Vale,  
 
Cassius 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 the beseen.com mesg board on the NR website | 
 
	| From: | 
	 w--------am wheeler <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=125075047121158135036082190036" >wuffa@--------</a> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 03 Feb 2000 15:19:11 -0800 | 
 
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I note that the Mesg board on the beseen.com NRsite is giveing out a 
HTTP Error 404 
 
404 Not Found 
 
The Web server cannot find the file or script you asked for. Please 
check the URL to ensure that the path is correct. 
 
Please contact the server's administrator if this problem persists. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: Re: Mithracon III | 
 
	| From: | 
	 <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/td>
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	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:59:24 -0500 (EST) | 
 
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There is a woman who is in charge of this event who makes arrangements 
with a hotel in the area and who kind of organizes the affair.  As 
Cassius says It is supposed to be a lot of fun and there is some 
interesting stuff to be foun in the library and museum.  If you guys are 
thinking about going, I may be able to drive down, good Lord willin' and 
the creeks don't rise(Grin).  New Haven is only an hour from my place, 
so mabe we could look at the library and museum together and meet some 
of the Mithras people and have dinner in the College District somewhere. 
As I understand it, these people have done a lot of Mithras related 
research and have a lot of information / references. 
 
Marcus Audens  
 
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!! 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Religious Holidays | 
 
	| From: | 
	 <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/td>
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	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Feb 2000 19:59:53 -0500 (EST) | 
 
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Salvete, Citizens of Nova Roma; 
 
I, Marcus Minucius Audens, Consul et Senator stand in forum to announce 
the Festival Period of Juno Februra---II Februarius ad XIV Februarius 
(Feb. 2-14)--Sacred to Juno Februra, Mother of Mars and goddess of the 
passion of love.  In service and deep respect to the Gods of Rome. I 
cover my head in humility and stand mute while Pontff Marcius Cornelius 
Felix gives a prayer and sacrifice suitable to the religious aspects of 
this occasion.  I thank you for your kind attention to this humble 
ceremony and I hope to precide over many others in the future with the 
approval of the Citizens of Nova Roma. 
 
Valete, With Great Respect and Hunble Visage; 
Marcus Minucius Audens 
Consul et Senator  
 
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!! 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Fwd: Religious Holidays | 
 
	| From: | 
	 <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/td>
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	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:08:36 -0500 (EST) | 
 
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Fair Winds and Following Seas!!! 
 
 
 
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