| Subject: |
Tax-exempt status: Ericius objects. |
| From: |
Pat Washburn <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:41:31 -0500 |
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Quoth Ericius:
>I do not think we should rush into the tax exempt game yet. Why should we?
>What do we have to gain from it?
Several Cives have been urging me to do this, and I believe it will be an
added stroke of legitimacy for our organization among those outside Nova
Roma. The detailed bookkeeping you mention is occurring now, so it would
not require anything extra on my part besides the preparation of a tax
return.
There is no question of my seeking or receiving payment for this work. I
am not an accountant, but I think this is within my capability.
However, I am interested in hearing more. If you or anyone else knows of
groups that have had bad experiences with seeking and holding this
status, I would like to hear the details. I will not, of course, make
this application without a vote of the Senate authorizing such action.
(My apologies to those of you outside the United States, who won't be
affected by this either way.)
Patricia Cassia . Quaestor, Nova Roma
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
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| Subject: |
Re: Tax-exempt status: Ericius objects. |
| From: |
"Rick Brett" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=189212253108160085015199190036129" >trog99@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:47:15 PST |
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Clarification from Pompeia Cornelia: As a citizen of Canada, I have donated
money to American Universities and other nonprofit organizations, charities,
etc. and have successfully written these off on Canadian Tax returns.
Valete, Pompeia
>From: Pat Washburn <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
>Reply-To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
>To: "Nova Roma Mailing List" <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
>Subject: [novaroma] Tax-exempt status: Ericius objects.
>Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:41:31 -0500
>
>From: Pat Washburn <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
>
>
>
>Quoth Ericius:
>
> >I do not think we should rush into the tax exempt game yet. Why should
>we?
> >What do we have to gain from it?
>
>Several Cives have been urging me to do this, and I believe it will be an
>added stroke of legitimacy for our organization among those outside Nova
>Roma. The detailed bookkeeping you mention is occurring now, so it would
>not require anything extra on my part besides the preparation of a tax
>return.
>
>There is no question of my seeking or receiving payment for this work. I
>am not an accountant, but I think this is within my capability.
>
>However, I am interested in hearing more. If you or anyone else knows of
>groups that have had bad experiences with seeking and holding this
>status, I would like to hear the details. I will not, of course, make
>this application without a vote of the Senate authorizing such action.
>
>(My apologies to those of you outside the United States, who won't be
>affected by this either way.)
>
>
>Patricia Cassia . Quaestor, Nova Roma
><a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: How Excessive Government Killed Ancient Rome |
| From: |
"Rick Brett" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=189212253108160085015199190036129" >trog99@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:28:07 PST |
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Salve, Cato: A most enlightening article. Thanks for sharing it. ...It
certainly draws alot of parallels with modern economic dynamics. Valete,
Pompeia Cornelia Strabo
>From: "Robert Williamson" <a href="/post/no--------ma?protectID=194233250056127134015037190036129" >robert@--------</a>
>Reply-To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
>To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
>Subject: [novaroma] How Excessive Government Killed Ancient Rome
>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:22:12 -0500
>
>From: "Robert Williamson" <a href="/post/no--------ma?protectID=194233250056127134015037190036129" >robert@--------</a>
>
>Salvé: Although I have been pretty quiet for some time, I have kept up on
>what has been going on in Nova Roma and continue to be a loyal Nova Roman.
>(Yes, I think some sort of tax payment is only fair, Nova Roma should have
>some reasonable income.) I have found what I consider to be an interesting
>site dealing with the government of Ancient Rome. It deals primarily with
>the Empire, but does have some mention of the Republic as well. I hope you
>find this interesting and would be interested in any comments.
> <a href="http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cjv14n2-7.html" target="_top" >http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cjv14n2-7.html</a>
>
>Valé: Appius Marcellus Cato
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: Transatlantic Romans? |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:56:01 EST |
|
I've only recently started following this thread. What statue was found in
Mexico City?
--Dex
In a message dated 2/10/00 6:35:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246243113180119209184102159248147208071048" >St--------eck@--------</--------; writes:
<< feel that the Romans very likely traveled to America, even if by
accident,
and that at least some of the crew of whatever few ships may have made the
voyage survived. The controversial proof that I offer which collaborates
with this is in ancient Aztec Mythology. The statue was found fairly close
to modern day Mexico City which once was also the Capital of the Ancient
Aztec Empire. When Spanish (White Skinned) people first came into contact
with the Aztecs the Aztecs immediently wanted peace with them because of
their belief that the Spanish were Gods (who they recognized by their light
skin) which left them 1,000 years earlier and promised to later return. Now
the belief by the Aztecs that white men were gods also brings up that the
Possibility that not only did the Romans which landed on shore survived, but
possibly also Ruled the Aztecs for a short period of time and then left
(After repairing their ship?). Why no records of this exist in Roman Texts
definately suggests that their ship sank on the Voyage home. Unfortunately
because of the greed of the first Spanish to visit Mexico the Aztec Empire
was destroyed in a lust for gold, and probably many Roman Artifacts were
destroyed along with the Aztec Cities. >>
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| Subject: |
Re: How Excessive Government Killed Ancient Rome |
| From: |
|
| Date: |
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:31:59 -0600 |
|
On 2/10/00 10:45 PM Marcus Audens (<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a>) --------e:
[SNIP]
>the need of controls to maintain free trade.
>
There you have stated the internal paradox and flaw in the "free market"
dogma, and the chink in the armor that lets the autocrats and demogogues
take control.
L. Sergius Aust.
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| Subject: |
Re: Transatlantic Romans? |
| From: |
|
| Date: |
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:50:24 EST |
|
In --------ss--------d-------- 2/10/00 8:08:02 PM E--------rn St--------rd Time, <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132063192112175198218021203140129208071" >Djester6@--------</--------;
writes:
<< too bad the Norse got to N. America first;) but suprisingly, in the
Vinland
Sagas, they left beacuse the natives were to hostile. now, the roman miltary
were unparrelled, for the most part, but i just can see a Bearzearker
turning
tail. there's was much like the spartan way. come home with your shelid, or
or on it, or don't come back at all. >>
Salve
The Norse landed in what is now Modern Day Canada, after the Roman Empire
Fell. If this theory is correct at least some Romans landed in Modern Day
Mexico long before the Norse visited Canada. Its possible that the
prosperous Aztec Empire was more peaceful (Despite the Human Sacrifices) than
the scattered tribes in Canadian Regions.
Vale Iulius Thompsonus
Faber est suae quisque fortunae.
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| Subject: |
Re: Transatlantic Romans? |
| From: |
|
| Date: |
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:55:19 EST |
|
In a message dated 2/11/00 11:00:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------; writes:
<< I've only recently started following this thread. What statue was found
in
Mexico City? >>
It was found Near Mexico City. You can read the entire article here
<a href="http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns222537" target="_top" >http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns222537</a>
|
| Subject: |
Re: How Excessive Government Killed Ancient Rome |
| From: |
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/td>
|
| Date: |
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:40:13 -0500 (EST) |
|
Salve, Serg. Aust;
Gee, I said all that!!!?! I'm smarter than I thought I was!! My only
question is; was what I said good or bad?? The reason I ask, is because
I am keeping a journal of my successes (Grin!!!!!).
Marcus Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
|
| Subject: |
Re: Transatlantic Romans? |
| From: |
|
| Date: |
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:50:17 EST |
|
In a message dated 2/11/00 3:01:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246243113180119209184102159248147208071048" >St--------eck@--------</--------; writes:
<< It was found Near Mexico City. You can read the entire article here
<a href="http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns222537" target="_top" >http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns222537</a> >>
Hmmm...ok...very interesting. However, I find it rather peculiar that the
anthropologist studying this is named "Roman Hristov" (i.e. "Roman History"?).
Hey...I'd like nothing better than to be able to say that the Romans
"discovered" America (i.e. using "discovered" in the sense that we say
Columbus "discovered" America -- i.e. made it known to Europeans. Just
clarifying before I get a plethora of e-mails about political correctness and
Native Americans, etc. Well...either way...Romans or Columbus...it "was"
Italians...he he he).
But hey...if the Mormons can claim that Israelites floated over to the New
World before Columbus...and the Nords can claim that the Vikings floated over
to the New Word before Columbus...well...why not!
I'll say it!
The Romans were here first! (Well...second...the Polynesians were here first
and settled the land...oh, who cares! I still maintain the Talking
Chihuahuas are responsible for it all...and they came to us from alien Mother
Ships! That's it! It all started with the Alien Talking Chihuahuas! They
were here before all of us!)
--Dex
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| Subject: |
Re: How Excessive Government Killed Ancient Rome |
| From: |
|
| Date: |
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:20:46 EST |
|
Salve Marcus Minucius
Good or bad? I don't know the answer to that. I was just struck by the
paradox of something requiring controls in order to be "free." I think
that paradox has plagued all the "Western democracies" for all of this
century. Our societies are "free" but they can only work if there are
controls -- more and more controls -- until you look up one day and
wonder how the word "free" could possibly apply.
Are you saying that you didn't realize how profound your thinking is? ;-)
Vale,
L. Sergius Aust.
On 2/11/00 2:40 PM James Mathe--------<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a>) --------e:
>From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------/font>
>
>Salve, Serg. Aust;
>
>Gee, I said all that!!!?! I'm smarter than I thought I was!! My only
>question is; was what I said good or bad?? The reason I ask, is because
>I am keeping a journal of my successes (Grin!!!!!).
>
>Marcus Audens
certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse.
(You know, Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.)
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| Subject: |
Re: The Eagle |
| From: |
|
| Date: |
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:20:47 EST |
|
Salve Marcus Arcadius Pius
I can't say, but I would think that to subscribe to the Eagle from Oz
ought to be the cost of the subscription plus the cost of postage to Oz.
You raise an old problem, and I wonder if we couldn't publish a copy of
the Eagle in Adobe Acrobat (.pdf) format so that it could be emailed to
citizens who don't live in North America.
Who is now responsible for the Eagle?
Vale,
L. Sergius Aust.
On 2/11/00 3:13 PM <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=114166234237175135184082190036" >danat@--------</a> (<a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=114166234237175135184082190036" >danat@--------</a>) wrot--------r>
>From: <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=114166234237175135184082190036" >danat@--------</a>
>
>Salve,
>
>I have asked this question before but lost the reply. Could somebody tell me
>how much it would cost to subscribe to the Eagle from Australia?
>
>Vale,
>
>Marcus Arcadius Pius
>Pontiff
certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse.
(You know, Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.)
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| Subject: |
Re: The Eagle |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:23:20 -0800 |
|
Decius Iunius Palladius is responsible for the Eagle. The Governor of
Australia has also expressed this concern, too.
L. Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor
----- Original Message -----
From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=226107192180229130130232031248147208071048" >LSergAust@--------</--------;
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] The Eagle
> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=226107192180229130130232031248147208071048" >LSergAust@--------</--------;
>
> Salve Marcus Arcadius Pius
>
> I can't say, but I would think that to subscribe to the Eagle from Oz
> ought to be the cost of the subscription plus the cost of postage to Oz.
> You raise an old problem, and I wonder if we couldn't publish a copy of
> the Eagle in Adobe Acrobat (.pdf) format so that it could be emailed to
> citizens who don't live in North America.
>
> Who is now responsible for the Eagle?
>
> Vale,
>
> L. Sergius Aust.
>
> On 2/11/00 3:13 PM <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=114166234237175135184082190036" >danat@--------</a> (<a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=114166234237175135184082190036" >danat@--------</a>) wrot--------font>
>
> >From: <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=114166234237175135184082190036" >danat@--------</a>
> >
> >Salve,
> >
> >I have asked this question before but lost the reply. Could somebody tell
me
> >how much it would cost to subscribe to the Eagle from Australia?
> >
> >Vale,
> >
> >Marcus Arcadius Pius
> >Pontiff
>
>
> certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse.
>
> (You know, Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.)
>
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