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Re: [novaroma] Digest Number 759 |
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Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:09:15 -0800 |
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Since I get the Digest of the Nova Roma list,
all "Non-text portions of [the] message have been removed."
What were the links about?
Thanks,
C. Aelius Ericius.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Digest Number 759 |
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| Date: |
Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:45:53 -0800 |
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I am thrilled that the links didn't make it. My computer was infected with
a virus that automatically sent some sort of attachment to everyone in my
address book.
Sorry about any confusion.
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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Digest Number 759
> From: Raz-------- <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a>
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> Since I get the Digest of the Nova Roma list,
> all "Non-text portions of [the] message have been removed."
>
> What were the links about?
>
> Thanks,
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| Subject: |
March 15th 709. AAUC |
| From: |
hadji <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=180166080058082135130082190036" >hadji@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:09:40 +0100 |
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Salvete Omnes, Ave Amici,
March the 15th 709 AAUC. March the 15th 2000 AD.
Two thousands forty four years since that distant but still fresh
tragical event. A senseless and brutal murder, which took the life of a
great Man. Man famous with his generousity, benevolence both to the
friends and enemies. A Man glorified and damned, who was never afraid to
got the responsibility.
There were many men of outstanding qualities at any time, which had
realized their visions. But Gaius Iulius Caesar's visions and deeds
brought to Rome, to The People of Rome and to the whole ancient world
peace, prosperity and quite fair treatment.
It does not matter from what a view point we will evaluate him - He
remained as a great Man and Roman. He is dead and can not answer to the
modern critics of ours.
In any case I guess this date deservs to be mentioned by such a humble
note.
Bene vale
Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus M.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] March 15th 709. AAUC |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 03:35:42 EST |
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Here! Here! Alexander! Well spoken! I've made an offering this morning to
the Divine Julius, thanking Him for exhibiting those very qualities that you
just spoke of.
Drusus Cornelius Claudius
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| Subject: |
Ides of March |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:59:15 -0000 |
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Salvete
This day (NP), is for special religious observance.
The month of March belongs to the warlike Mars, the deity who personifies
the protection of the state and the productivity of the community. This is
the fifteenth day of the Festival of Mars. The daily spectacle of the
priests of Mars leaping and dancing through the streets of Rome continues
this day.
This day belongs to Anna Porenna and Iuppiter. Anna Perena is the deified
image of an old woman who either represented the flowing river (amne
perenne) as the indefinitely renewed years, or who had baked bread to feed
Roman soldiers near Bovillae. This is a picnic day, and the Romans travel
out and set up tents and camps around the first milestone of the Via
Flamina.
Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Pontifex
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| Subject: |
Chat tonight! |
| From: |
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=226028211237082190172248203043129208071" >Lykaion1@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:45:19 EST |
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Today is market day. I hope to see many Romans in the chat area tonight!
I will be there about 10pm EST.
Festus
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| Subject: |
Salvete et Bona Dies |
| From: |
<--------lass="msghead"> &l--------href="/pos--------varoma?pro--------ID=132056219182127132169218031036129208" &g--------curia@--------&l--------&g--------td>
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:17:23 -0600 |
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Salvete
Fellow Romans. I am Rufa Paula Cornelia, and new citizen of Nova Roma, and I
wish to give greetings
to all of my fellow Romans on this day. I am also a legionary inlisted in
the Legio XX Valeria Victrix.
i suppose you could call me the women's auxillary. That's what I call
myself, at times. I have made
plans to attend Romans Days this June; I am looking forward to meet other
Romans there.
Valete
Rufa
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] March 15th 709. AAUC |
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:51:12 EST |
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Salvete,
I believe that on this day they still place wreaths and flowers in the Forum
at the spot of Caesar's murder. From what I could tell from the TV show which
documented this, these were sincere offerings from the People of Rome rather
than some sort of official historical event.
Valete,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
In a message dated 3/15/00 12:23:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=180166080058082135130082190036" >hadji@--------</a> writes:
<< March the 15th 709 AAUC. March the 15th 2000 AD.
Two thousands forty four years since that distant but still fresh
tragical event. A senseless and brutal murder, which took the life of a
great Man. Man famous with his generousity, benevolence both to the
friends and enemies. A Man glorified and damned, who was never afraid to
got the responsibility.
There were many men of outstanding qualities at any time, which had
realized their visions. But Gaius Iulius Caesar's visions and deeds
brought to Rome, to The People of Rome and to the whole ancient world
peace, prosperity and quite fair treatment.
It does not matter from what a view point we will evaluate him - He
remained as a great Man and Roman. He is dead and can not answer to the
modern critics of ours.
In any case I guess this date deservs to be mentioned by such a humble
note.
>>
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Digest Number 760 |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 05:34:54 -0800 |
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I don't think the links not making it would keep your virus from doing its thing
to the people in your address book. We trust you have run an anti-virus on
your computer since. Right?
<a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> wrote:
> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:45:53 -0800
> From: "simona agnolucci" <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=061176014007078031015038190036129" >simona@--------</a>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 759
>
> I am thrilled that the links didn't make it. My computer was infected with
> a virus that automatically sent some sort of attachment to everyone in my
> address book.
>
> Sorry about any confusion.
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| Subject: |
Idus Martius |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:09:38 -0800 |
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The Ides of every month are sacred to Iuppiter and the Ides of
the month of Mars saw a festival to Iuppiter Optimus Maximus.
This day is also that of the festival of Anna Perenna, a female
personification of the year. The name may also be interpreted
as meaning "the year through all the years", perhaps another
personification of a concept of eternity, or atleast longevity.
The festival was held at a grove at the first milestone on the
Via Flaminia. The day evolved into an occaision for partying
in the country. The revelers sang popular songs, danced (for as
long as they were able [?] ) and "drank as many cups of wine as
the number of years they prayed to live". This New Year's Day
festa eclipsed the formal observances of the day. The origins
were probably linked to a fertility rite.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Salvete et Bona Dies |
| From: |
"Rick Brett" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=189212253108160085015199190036129" >trog99@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 08:39:45 PST |
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Warm Greetings, Rufa Paula Cornelia. Welcome to Nova Roma!
Pompeia Cornelia Strabo
Gens Cornelia, Nova Roma
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>Subject: [novaroma] Salvete et Bona Dies
>Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:17:23 -0600
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>Salvete
>
>Fellow Romans. I am Rufa Paula Cornelia, and new citizen of Nova Roma, and
>I
>wish to give greetings
>to all of my fellow Romans on this day. I am also a legionary inlisted in
>the Legio XX Valeria Victrix.
>i suppose you could call me the women's auxillary. That's what I call
>myself, at times. I have made
>plans to attend Romans Days this June; I am looking forward to meet other
>Romans there.
>
>Valete
>Rufa
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Digest Number 760 |
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:52:43 -0800 |
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Of course, our IS people have taken care of it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raz--------" <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Digest Number 760
> From: Raz-------- <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a>
>
> I don't think the links not making it would keep your virus from doing its
thing
> to the people in your address book. We trust you have run an anti-virus
on
> your computer since. Right?
>
> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:45:53 -0800
> > From: "simona agnolucci" <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=061176014007078031015038190036129" >simona@--------</a>
> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 759
> >
> > I am thrilled that the links didn't make it. My computer was infected
with
> > a virus that automatically sent some sort of attachment to everyone in
my
> > address book.
> >
> > Sorry about any confusion.
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>
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] March 15th 709. AAUC |
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:49:30 EST |
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Salve Marcus Cassius Julianus,
<< I believe that on this day they still place wreaths and flowers in the
Forum
at the spot of Caesar's murder. >>
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Digest Number 760 |
| From: |
"Nicolaus Moravius" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=091089014007127031215056228219114187071048139" >n_moravius@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:54:45 PST |
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Salvete, mei Populari!
See how the immortal gods love Nova Roma...?!
Pace deorum,
Vado.
>>Subject: Re: Digest Number 759
>
>I am thrilled that the links didn't make it. My computer was infected with
>a virus that automatically sent some sort of attachment to everyone in my
>address book.
>
>Sorry about any confusion.
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| Subject: |
March 15th 709 |
| From: |
"Diana Aventina" <a href="/--------/novaroma?--------ectID=029056091098194209036168000248021208071048" >mercurius@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:40:28 +0100 |
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Hi all,
>A senseless and brutal murder, which took the life of a
> great Man.
and a murderer- does the name of Vercingetorix ring a bell to anyone?
Belgae? Or maybe "Celt" sounds more familiar?
The Gallo-Roman lands weep for their hero, Vercingetorix, who was kept in
chains and paraded around for 6 years before Caesar finally had him
strangled at his triumph.
The land of Belgica weeps for Ambiorix and the genocide of the Belgae.
So yes, I'll celebrate the Ides of March--as a day that justice was served.
Diana (from Belgica
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] March 15th 709 |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:00:56 -0800 |
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Diana Aventina wrote:
> From: "Diana Aventina" <a href="/--------/novaroma?--------ectID=029056091098194209036168000248021208071048" >mercurius@--------</a>
>
> Hi all,
>
> >A senseless and brutal murder, which took the life of a
> > great Man.
> and a murderer- does the name of Vercingetorix ring a bell to anyone?
> Belgae? Or maybe "Celt" sounds more familiar?
> The Gallo-Roman lands weep for their hero, Vercingetorix, who was kept in
> chains and paraded around for 6 years before Caesar finally had him
> strangled at his triumph.
>
Sulla: Well Caesar couldnt help it if a Civil War interrupted his planned
Triumph.
> The land of Belgica weeps for Ambiorix and the genocide of the Belgae.
>
Sulla: It was a war, and the better man won. Remember what started the
Conflict, was the emigration of Germanic Tribes...
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] March 15th 709 |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:50:30 -0000 |
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Salvete Diana et al
>and a murderer- does the name of Vercingetorix ring a bell to anyone?
>Belgae? Or maybe "Celt" sounds more familiar?
>The Gallo-Roman lands weep for their hero, Vercingetorix, who was kept in
>chains and paraded around for 6 years before Caesar finally had him
>strangled at his triumph.
>The land of Belgica weeps for Ambiorix and the genocide of the Belgae.
>So yes, I'll celebrate the Ides of March--as a day that justice was served.
Firstly, I want to say that I am Hispano-Roman, a Lusitanian, and as such I
could very well praise our hero Viriatus, who was also murdered by order of
the Romans. But I don't do it because the Roman ocupation of Hispania came
to be a good thing, and I am proud that Lusitanian blood is nowadays mixed
with Roman blood.
War is a bad thing. Just don't forget that the Belgae, Lusitanians and
others have also cast the fate of other peoples, robbing, pillaging and so
on. The outcome is what interests. And in Roman Belgium and Lusitania, the
people were not Roman in majority, they were natives who learned how to be
more civilised. Some became writers, philosophers...
Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] March 15th 709 |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:05:26 EST |
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In a message dated 3/15/00 1:43:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
<a href="/--------/novaroma?--------ectID=029056091098194209036168000248021208071048" >mercurius@--------</a> writes:
<< does the name of Vercingetorix ring a bell to anyone?
Belgae? Or maybe "Celt" sounds more familiar?
Cassius:
Indeed. The Celts were the folks that started a centuries long border-war by
first attacking the Etruscans, then invading, sacking and burning Rome in 390
BCE.
Of course those deaths don't make up for Caesar's actions... but it does
point out that there was a LOT of history between the Celts and Romans before
him.
There was also a great deal of history between the Celts and Romans *after*
Caesar. The Celts kept self government to a high degree, they kept their
religion and their culture. They became an honored member of the Roman world,
and Celts became senators, philosophers, and even Caesars themselves.
> The Gallo-Roman lands weep for their hero, Vercingetorix, who was kept in
chains and paraded around for 6 years before Caesar finally had him
strangled at his triumph.
Cassius:
Was he really kept in chains and paraded around all this time? If so, his
treatment was *far* different from that of most important war captives. Most
were treated as honored guests while under house arrest, and even invited to
dinner parties, etc. After a time they would indeed be part of a triumph, and
then executed. Vercingetorix' fate was delayed only because of the Civil
Wars, not through personal cruelty on Caesar's part.
Admittedly, if the Celts had won, Caesar's fate would have been much quicker.
He would have been decapitated, and his head would have decorated a pole
outside Vercingetorix' stronghold. Later, Vercingetorix possibly would have
had his skull made into a drinking cup.
> The land of Belgica weeps for Ambiorix and the genocide of the Belgae.
I wonder if it also weeps for the Romans of 390 BC. Hopefully at least it
equally cheers the efforts of the Emperor Julian, (360 AD) who lived among
them for many years, and who saved several of their cities from total
annihilation by invading German tribes.
Valete,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
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| Subject: |
Who Was Vercingetorix? |
| From: |
"Jérôme Hébert" &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045015192254056209050218001036129208" >jhebert@--------&--------a> |
| Date: |
Wed, 15 Mar 2000 23:22:01 -0000 |
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Salvete Cives et Optima Festa Omnibus!
Without going into the politics of Vercingetorix' treatment after his
defeat by Julius Caesar, in response to the question asking who he
actually was:
If my memory serves me -- and in this case it does painfully well, I
think -- Vercingetorix' career is minutely detailed in Caesar's "De
Bellico Gallico" (many editions of which are available in English and
other languages other than Latin). I refer anyone who is interested
in this great Celtic general to that work. Good luck!
Valete,
Acadianus Draco
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