Subject: Re: [novaroma] March 15th 709
From:
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:35:34 EST
In a message dated 3/15/00 3:43:42 PM Central Standard Time,
<a href="/--------/novaroma?--------ectID=029056091098194209036168000248021208071048" >mercurius@--------</a> writes:

<< and a murderer- does the name of Vercingetorix ring a bell to anyone?
Belgae? Or maybe "Celt" sounds more familiar?
The Gallo-Roman lands weep for their hero, Vercingetorix, who was kept in
chains and paraded around for 6 years before Caesar finally had him
strangled at his triumph.

The land of Belgica weeps for Ambiorix and the genocide of the Belgae.

So yes, I'll celebrate the Ides of March--as a day that justice was served.
Diana (from Belgica

>>

I am a free man of a free nation! - Vercingetorix

Subject: Censor Update
From:
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:28:29 -0800
Salve Civies

I just wanted to let everyone know that I am currently caught up in
regards to all citizen applications Dated from 01/18/00 - Present. All
appications have either been approved, sent to my Nomenclature (Lucius
Marius Fimbria) or sent back to the applicants requesting additional
information.

At present, I will begin working on updating the Album Gentium.
Hopefully by my next days off (Monday or Tuesday) I will have that
complete, and forwarded to our WebMaster for posting.

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor


Subject: ATTN (Religio Romana): ante diem XVII Kalendas April (March 16)
From: "Antonio Grilo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:13:23 -0000
Salvete

This is one of the dies fasti (F), on which legal actions are permitted.

March 16th is a holy day for the Romans, and is sacred to Iuppiter and Mars.

This is the sixteenth day of the Feriae Marti, Festival of Mars. The daily
spectacle of the priests of Mars leaping and dancing through the streets of
Rome would continue this day.

On this starts a procession (procession of the Argei) that goes through the
shrines of the Argei; they were brought to twenty-seven special shrines
throughout the four Servian regions of Roma in a preparatory rite. The Argei
themselves are human-shaped bundles of rushes that are thrown into the river
later in the year (the Argeis in Maius). The Flaminica of Iuppiter
participates with her hair loose as a sign of mourning. The Procession
continues the on the next day.

This is also the a day of the Bacchanalia dedicated to Bacchus/Dionysus. the
Romans celebrated the Bacchanalia, until 186 BC, when it was banned.

Pax Deorum Vobiscum

Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Pontifex


Subject: Re: [novaroma] ATTN (Religio Romana): ante diem XVII Kalendas April (March 16)
From:
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:08:08 EST
In a message dated 3/16/2000 10:48:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a> writes:

<< the Romans celebrated the Bacchanalia, until 186 BC, when it was banned. >>
Those fun hating Senators! :)

Subject: RE: [novaroma] ATTN (Religio Romana): ante diem XVII Kalendas Apr il (March 16)
From: Mary Beth Clemon--------t;a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=029158235056038190172232203219129208071" >mclemon--------..</a>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:18:27 -0500
Now, Consul...

I like fun just as much as the next person!

Minervina Iucundia Flavia
Propraetor and SENATOR


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In a message dated 3/16/2000 10:48:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a> writes:

<< the Romans celebrated the Bacchanalia, until 186 BC, when it was banned.
>>
Those fun hating Senators! :)

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Subject: Vercingetorix?
From: "Diana Aventina" <a href="/--------/novaroma?--------ectID=029056091098194209036168000248021208071048" >mercurius@--------</a>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:13:38 +0100
>Vercingetorix' career is minutely detailed in Caesar's "De
> Bellico Gallico" (many editions of which are available in English and
> other languages other than Latin). I refer anyone who is interested
> in this great Celtic general to that work. Good luck!

Hi Jérôme Hébert,
By your name, I doubt that I need to inform you of this :-) :
There are also 3 books in French with the title "Vercingetorix" by Jean
Markale, Camille Julian, and a third author who slips my mind at the moment.
As the titles read, these books are specifically on Vercingetorix. Any of
the few French citizens of this list have probably read those books already,
but for our English speakers there is a novel by Morgan Llewellyn called
"The Druids" and "For freedom and for Gaul" by Paul Anderson".
And yes, I think that Caesar was very very clever, but if my memory serves
me, neither the Celts or the Belgae ever wiped out as many people as Caesar
did. I am Italian/Sicilian/Roman descent and proud to live in a land where
the Romans walked, but I am not so much in fantasy land to believe that the
Romans were always right.

Diana



Subject: Re: [novaroma] Vercingetorix?
From: "Antonio Grilo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:32:28 -0000
Salvete Diana et al

>I am Italian/Sicilian/Roman descent and proud to live in a land where
>the Romans walked, but I am not so much in fantasy land to believe that the
>Romans were always right.
No one is always right. But I remember at least one instance when the Senate
deplored the cruelty of their generals against the Celtiberians and
Lusitanians. I cannot remember a single instance of such a self-judgement on
the part Germanic, Gaul, Briton or Celtiberian leaders. Besides, while the
Barbarians usually had the strategy of expelling or killing their enemies
during conquer, the Romans preferred to transform their enemies - alive -
into Romans, using not only the sword but mainly (and only this can explain
the long life of such an Empire) the persuasion of civilised life.

Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus



Subject: Re: Vercingetorix? - Respondo Dianae Aventinae
From: "Jérôme Hébert" &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045015192254056209050218001036129208" >jhebert@--------&--------a>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:36:39 -0000
Salve Diana Aventina,

Thanks very much for the leads on various books concerning
Vercingetorix -- and I hope they will also be of equal interest to
the individual who had questions about the "Great Helvetian."

Unfortunately, the Roman miliary -- in any of its aspects, whether
historical, organizational or procedural -- is definitely not my area
of expertise. What little I knew about Vercingetorix was gleaned
from my [enforced] reading of Caesar's De Bello Gallico in second
year Latin. I was not even aware that he appeared in any fictional
or fictionalised tales. But since you have now piqued my interest, I
shall perhaps have to check some of the sources you mentioned. I
appreciate the leads!

FYI, I am no longer "J=E9r=F4me H=E9bert" -- at least for purposes of this
list and for other matters Nova Roman. The noble Censor, Lucius
Cornelius Sulla, informed me only this morning that my application
for citizenship in Nova Roma had been accepted. Therefore, I am now
officially "Adrianus Arius Acadianus Draco." (But I AM still
French...or, perhaps to be absolutely PC, Franco-Roman?)

In closing, I heartily agree with you that the Romans were not always
right. But they certainly did one heck of a good job at bringing
civilisation -- literature, the arts, stable government, philosophy,
and on and on and on -- to my ancestors! As far as I am concerned,
they are all part of the family (warts and all), and I am grateful
for and to them.

Te bene habere, spero, amica. Vale et salus tecum,
Acadianus Draco


Subject: Latinitas: Novus Liber
From: "Adrianus Arius Acadianus Draco" &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045015192254056209050218001036129208" >jhebert@--------&--------a>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:28:02 -0000
Salvete, Fellow Citizens

For those of you who are interested in the Latin Language, I stumbled
upon a relatively new book which is one of the most delightful
adventures in Latinity that I have yet discovered. The book is
entitled "Conversational Latin for Oral Proficiency," 2nd edition, by
John C. Traupman, published in 1999 by Bolchazy-Carducci Publishers,
Inc., Wauconda, Illinois. The ISBN is 0-86516-381-2. If you enjoy
using Latin in a contemporary, day-to-day fashion, (or wish you
could, as I did) I heartily and without reservation endorse this
volume. And it does a fine job, IMHO, of balancing a respect for the
integrity of Classical Roman language and culture with the specific
demands of life and its lexical demands in the modern world. For
example, the section on computer technology alone is priceless.

I'd love to hear anyone else's feedback on this book, if you decide
to check it out, or are already familiar with it.

Gratias vobis ago. Salvete!
Acadianus Draco