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Re: [novaroma] NOVA ROMA computer game? |
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Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:32:46 EST |
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I would be very interested in just such a game.
--Marius Lucianus Silvanus
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Re: [novaroma] Re: Nova Roma Coins |
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Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:37:01 EST |
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In a message dated 03/19/2000 9:28:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=219166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >c--------us622@--------</--------; writes:
<< (The flags are selling well, by the way, and
*that* project has been a great success. There are still some flags
available, BTW, if anyone is interested.) >>
I would be interested in obtaining a flag or two. How would I go about doing
that?
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Re: [novaroma] Re: Nova Roma Coins |
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Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:41:57 EST |
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In a message dated 03/20/2000 12:20:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=180075219163056135025082190036" >hu----------------</a> writes:
<< Who and what would appear on these coins? Romans from the Republican
or Imperial periods? Gods? I'd prefer to see coins that somewhat resemble
ancient coins, with the addition of the Nova Roma name.
Romulus or Jupiter might be good subjects for the first coin, backed with
the SPQR image from the flag.
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I definitely agree with this design and I also think the coins should
resemble ancient coinage. I'm also thinking Jupiter for the first coin.
Vale
--Marius Lucianus Silvanus
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Re: [novaroma] Re: Nova Roma Coins |
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"Chad Kieffer" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=219202020056021131184218141036129208" >--------ffe@--------</a> |
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Tue, 28 Mar 2000 00:07:29 -0600 |
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Salvete!
Juppiter would be great for one side of the coin. Juno might be
appropriate as well, especially for those of us who are English-speakers.
In English, by a strage twist of fate, our word "money" comes (through
French from Latin) from Juno Moneta, or "Juno the Warner,"in whose temple
coins where
minted for a while in Rome. Remember Juno Moneta, next time you handle some
cash. ;)
Valete,
C Cordius Symmachus
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ATTN (Religio Romana): ante diem V Kalendas April (March 28th) |
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"Antonio Grilo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a> |
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Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:01:06 +0100 |
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Salvete omnes
This is one of the dies comitiales (C), when committees of citizens could
vote on political or criminal matters.
The festivals of Attis and Cybele continue. The fact that Roman citizens
cannot become Galli does not mean that they cannot occupy other priesthoods
of the cult. Communities of worshipers or 'sodalicia' (e.g. the dendrophori
or tree-bearers, the canophori or reed-bearers, the cernophori or
testicle-bearers (see below)) are organised, each temple is headed by a
couple of "sacerdotes", and circa 160 AD the 'archigallus' priesthood is
appears.
The archigallus is a senior priest appointed by the state (by the
Quindecemviri Sacris Faciundis who supervised the cult) specially related to
this day of March 28th, the day of initiation into the Mysteries though the
Taurobolium and Criobolium sacrifices. These replace self-emasculation with
the sacrifice of a Bull and Ram respectively (it is possible that similar
substitution rites already existed, namely for the initiaion of sacerdotes).
These sacrifices are at first offered "pro salute Imperatori" ("to the
health of the Emperor" and thus related to the state cult) but gradually
become baptisms of blood (in the 3rd century AD, these sacrifices had
acquired their final shape). In this form, the initiate ('tauroboliati') is
put on a pit covered with an iron with holes, below the bull. The
archigallus is dressed as a traditional Roman sacrificer ("sacrificator"),
wearing the toga in 'Gabino ritu' covering his head. As the archigallus
sacrifices the bull, the blood that protrudes from the wound falls into the
pit and the initiate receives a bath of blood. The genitals of the bull are
carried by the cernophori. After that, if the initiate has the means (the
sacrifice is performed at the expense of the initiate), the Taurobolium is
complemented with a Criobolium, the sacrifice of a ram, in which the
genitals also play an important role as evoking the castration of Attis and
the Galli. The initiate is then shown to the audience and says the
following:
"I've eaten from the drums, I've drunk from the cymbal, I've become a
'mystes' of Attis"
A few other rites such as a mystical banquet and hierogamie (symbolic
nuptial union with Cybele) complete the ceremony. In this day, the initiate
is reborn like Attis to join the Great Mother of the Gods (Magna Mater
Deorum), but normally the sacrifice is renewed every 20 years.
Pax Deorum Vobiscum
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Pontifex
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Re: Nova Roma Coins |
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Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:23:29 EST |
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In a message dated 3/27/00 8:42:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246176235084158116130232097165052165134048139046" >Silv--------727@--------</--------; writes:
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=180075219163056135025082190036" >hu----------------</a> writes:
<< Romulus or Jupiter might be good subjects for the first coin, backed with
the SPQR image from the flag.
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Silvanus:
I definitely agree with this design and I also think the coins should
resemble ancient coinage. I'm also thinking Jupiter for the first coin.
>>
The first proposed coin template currently has the goddess Roma on the
obverse, and the SPQR symbol from the flag on the Reverse. Jupiter was an
image we thought about, but we simply couldn't find an image of him that
could be shrunk down to coin size.
The currently proposed coins would be modern looking rather than ancient.
This means that the coins could be machine "stamped" and therefore be
inexpensive. They would also look professional and more closely resemble the
coinage being put out by every other "nation" in the world today.
To produce an ancient looking coin we'd have to either cast them, or stamp
them by hand. Both of these processes would be time consuming and much more
expensive. We'd likely be looking at a sale price of at least $2.00 US per
coin, rather than the proposed 50 cents US which would make them more usable
for trade. This would surely limit the quantities we could produce. (Unless
we have a Citizen out there who does metal casting and feels like making a
big donation of course!)
Valete,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
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Re: [novaroma] Re: Nova Roma Coins |
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Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:29:55 EST |
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In a message dated 3/27/00 10:11:40 PM Pacific Standard Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=219202020056021131184218141036129208" >--------ffe@--------</a> writes:
<< Juppiter would be great for one side of the coin. Juno might be
appropriate as well, especially for those of us who are English-speakers.
In English, by a strage twist of fate, our word "money" comes (through
French from Latin) from Juno Moneta, or "Juno the Warner,"in whose temple
coins where
minted for a while in Rome. Remember Juno Moneta, next time you handle some
cash. ;)
>>
I personally was unable to find a Jupiter image that could be shrunk down to
a 1" coin size and retain visibility. I've seen two or three line drawings of
him... all with a great deal of detail. When these get reduced it all melts
together.
Yet another problem with coinage... the more complex the images on a coin,
the more expensive the stamping dies are. The image of Roma we currently have
has been quoted as being of "medium" detail. They won't have to hire an
artist at $160 an hour to hand engrave the die, which is a GOOD thing!
If anyone out there has artwork they think would do for coinage, there's no
reason why new images can't be considered. Feel free to Email me .jpg images!
There is still time to change the design we have if folks would rather have
something else... and have something else that will work as far as
production.
Valete,
Marcus Cassius Julianus
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Re: [novaroma] NOVA ROMA computer game? |
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<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=226028211237082190172248203043129208071" >Lykaion1@--------</a> |
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Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:43:48 EST |
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Ok, it will take a few weeks for me to build this game. But when it is
ready anyone who likes can have it.
Gaius Lupinius Festus
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Re: [novaroma] NOVA ROMA computer game? |
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Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:34:34 EST |
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In a message dated 3/28/2000 9:45:46 AM Pacific Standard Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=226028211237082190172248203043129208071" >Lykaion1@--------</a> writes:
<< Ok, it will take a few weeks for me to build this game. >>
Salvete
Apparently I missed something going through the voluminous amount of
correspondence on my desk. Would someone e mail my personal address and
explain to me what this is about?
Valete
Q. Fabius Maximus
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Re: [novaroma] NOVA ROMA computer game? |
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Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:17:11 EST |
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Salve Gaius Lupinius Festus!
<< Ok, it will take a few weeks for me to build this game. But when it is
ready anyone who likes can have it. >>
You'll definately have to email me the game, if possible, or I could send you
the neccesary money to ship a CD to me.
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