| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Album Gentium |
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| Date: |
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:48:16 -0700 |
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I know its been removed on the Album Civium :)
SF
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132212044112194233114149109101130130239146031196234130152150" >DrususCornelius@--------</--------; wrote:
> Salve!
>
> The Gens Augustula no longer exists, but it's still on the Album Gentium.
>
> For the Senate and the Roman People, Valete!
> Drusus Cornelius Claudius
>
> In a m--------g--------t--------/10/00 12:29:03 PM PST, <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a> writ--------/font>
>
> << For every citizen.....if there are updates, such as changes in e-mail
> address's and Patron Dieties you want listed. PLEASE, let me know. I
> am just about caught up with citizen applications and I would really
> like to update the Album Gentium before I take my medical leave. :) So,
> you have about 2 weeks to notify me.
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> >>
>
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| Subject: |
Public thanks regarding Conferratio Rite! :) |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:11:58 EDT |
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Salvete,
Our Senior Consul, Q. Fabius, has just sent me a fully translated copy of the
Conferratio rite which Patricia Cassia and I were so frantic about. I am
DEEPLY grateful! He undertook this job at the 11th hour... the wedding is now
less than two weeks away.
Q. Fabius has been busy these days, so his taking the time to do this was a
true act of kindness. This act was also a help to Nova Roma as well I
imagine; it should make a valuable addition to the website for other couples
wishing to marry in the Roman fashion!
AVE Q. Fabius!!
Valete,
The Soon to Be Married Marcus Cassius Julianus
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| Subject: |
Fw: [novaroma] Public thanks regarding Conferratio Rite! :) |
| From: |
"Chad Kieffer" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=219202020056021131184218141036129208" >--------ffe@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:18:42 -0500 |
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Macte virtute! Yes, please do post any and all versions/translations
to
the web site. The conferratio rite was, of course, the most revered of the
marriage ceremonies (though it began to almost die out in the late
republic). Under the republic and early empire a flamen or flaminica
could only be chosen for the position if he/she was from a patrician family
and had been married by this rite (cf. Tacitus' _Annales_ 4:16), which also
made it technically nearly impossible for them to get a divorce.
C Cordius Symmachus
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=219166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >c--------us622@--------</--------;
> To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 9:11 PM
> Subject: [novaroma] Public thanks regarding Conferratio Rite! :)
>
>
> > Salvete,
> >
> > Our Senior Consul, Q. Fabius, has just sent me a fully translated copy
of
> the
> > Conferratio rite which Patricia Cassia and I were so frantic about. I am
> > DEEPLY grateful! He undertook this job at the 11th hour... the wedding
is
> now
> > less than two weeks away.
> >
> > Q. Fabius has been busy these days, so his taking the time to do this
was
> a
> > true act of kindness. This act was also a help to Nova Roma as well I
> > imagine; it should make a valuable addition to the website for other
> couples
> > wishing to marry in the Roman fashion!
> >
> > AVE Q. Fabius!!
> >
> > Valete,
> >
> > The Soon to Be Married Marcus Cassius Julianus
> >
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| Subject: |
Re: Fw: [novaroma] Public thanks regarding Conferratio Rite! :) |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:33:19 -0700 |
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Yes! Please post it to the NR List. There are other couples in Nova Roma who
will definately need it. Like Helena and I in December 27. :)
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor
Chad Kieffer wrote:
> Macte virtute! Yes, please do post any and all versions/translations
> to
> the web site. The conferratio rite was, of course, the most revered of the
> marriage ceremonies (though it began to almost die out in the late
> republic). Under the republic and early empire a flamen or flaminica
> could only be chosen for the position if he/she was from a patrician family
> and had been married by this rite (cf. Tacitus' _Annales_ 4:16), which also
> made it technically nearly impossible for them to get a divorce.
>
> C Cordius Symmachus
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=219166066112082162090021200165114253071048139" >c--------us622@--------</--------;
> > To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 9:11 PM
> > Subject: [novaroma] Public thanks regarding Conferratio Rite! :)
> >
> >
> > > Salvete,
> > >
> > > Our Senior Consul, Q. Fabius, has just sent me a fully translated copy
> of
> > the
> > > Conferratio rite which Patricia Cassia and I were so frantic about. I am
> > > DEEPLY grateful! He undertook this job at the 11th hour... the wedding
> is
> > now
> > > less than two weeks away.
> > >
> > > Q. Fabius has been busy these days, so his taking the time to do this
> was
> > a
> > > true act of kindness. This act was also a help to Nova Roma as well I
> > > imagine; it should make a valuable addition to the website for other
> > couples
> > > wishing to marry in the Roman fashion!
> > >
> > > AVE Q. Fabius!!
> > >
> > > Valete,
> > >
> > > The Soon to Be Married Marcus Cassius Julianus
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Whatever you want, chances are you'll find it at one of the hundreds
> > > of sites in The PointClick Network--like Disney.com, eCost.com,
> > > FogDog.com and many more. You get paid as you shop and an additional
> > > 10% off any purchase, anytime.
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| Subject: |
Civis Novus |
| From: |
"Doug Barr" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=114015211254158209218218186036129208" >dhkbarr@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 00:39:12 -0700 |
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Salvete omnes!
I am honoured to announce that I have just been granted Nova Roman citizenship. Nova Roma now has a gens in western Canada -- actually, in BC, the westernmost province -- gens Albia.
As pater familias and sole member of the gens, I hope -- eventually -- to build gens Albia into a strong and vibrant part of the varied Pagan community here in Vancouver, where the Religio Romana can flourish.
I view myself as a Romano-Celt -- I am half Scottish by descent and speak some Gaelic -- worshipping primarily Minerva/Athena Brigantia, though I find myself praying to Iove more of late, and gens Albia, although a Roman gens, will likely incorporate Celtic material through the interpretatio Romana and my studies of the Proto-Indo-Europeans and their various descendent cultures.
If there are any new or prospective Nova Romans in western Canada and particularly BC, or other Romano-Celts, I would welcome contact.
Valete,
Gaius Albius Gadelicus
P.S. Congratulations to Andrea Gladia Kyrinia on her well-deserved elevation as Priestess of Apollo. She may possibly recognize me by taking a look at my cognomen, if I add that I have a vocation of making calendars. :)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: |
To all Governors |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 02:38:55 -0700 |
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When you make a request for your list of citizens, I need the following
information:
1. Your Province
2. If its an American Province, I need to know what states incorporate
it.
3. If Canadian I need to know what Provinces are included in it.
4. If outside of the United States and Canada, I need to know what
countries are included in it.
Thank you for your assistance
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor
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| Subject: |
Confarreatio rites |
| From: |
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 06:47:59 -0400 (EDT) |
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Greetings!
Yes, we'll post both the translated rite and the one we end up using. What I hope to do after the wedding is to build a "Reconstructed Roman Wedding" page to be a public educational resource on the Nova Roma site, using information from books and pictures from our wedding.
Patricia Cassia
Quaestor, Nova Roma
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| Subject: |
Album Gentium |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:49:06 -0700 |
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Salvete Civies
I have the newest Album Gentium completed. It should be sent to the
webmaster within about 24 hours.
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Civis Novus |
| From: |
"Kyrene" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=200028091056078198015242190036129" &--------yrene@--------</a&--------/td>
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| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:21:47 -0400 |
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----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Barr <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=114015211254158209218218186036129208" >dhkbarr@--------</a>
To: Nova Roma <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:39 AM
Subject: [novaroma] Civis Novus
> P.S. Congratulations to Andrea Gladia Kyrinia on her well-deserved
elevation as Priestess of Apollo. She may possibly recognize me by taking a
look at my cognomen, if I add that I have a vocation of making calendars. :)
Salve, dear friend! :)
Yes, I saw your name in the header. Thanks for your well-wishing on my
vocation. I have been working, as I type, to get it up and running with
lots of research on my part. I probably won't have rites in Greek or Latin
for a bit, but I eventually would like to see them translated into
both--even though Greek was mostly used for Apollo's cult.
Which reminds me--calendars. I have to update it. *cringes* I haven't had
the time.... Someone spank me, please?
Vale et khaire,
Kyrinia
-=* Kyrene Ariadne/Andrea Gladia Kyrinia *=-
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-=* <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1527" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1527</a> *=-
-=* ~The Tholos~ *=-
-=* ICQ:6663573 Yahoo:KyreneAriadne AIM:KyreneAriadne *=-
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] To all Governors |
| From: |
"Qu--------s Sertor--------#34; <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=123075020254193194170038203026129208071" >gu--------he@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:09:45 -0500 |
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11 April 2000
Salve
My name is Quintus Sertorius, and as Canada Occidentalis has no governor I
will anserw this question. Canada Occidentalis consists of the modern day
provinces of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Britsh Columbia, and also the
Territories of the Canadian north.
Vale
Quintus Sertorius
Citizen
Canada Occidentalis
Nova Roma
----- Original Message -----
From: Lucius Corn--------s Sulla <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=243128192154082190130232203077129208071" >al--------us@--------</a>
To: NovaRoma <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 4:38 AM
Subject: [novaroma] To all Governors
> When you make a request for your list of citizens, I need the following
> information:
>
> 1. Your Province
> 2. If its an American Province, I need to know what states incorporate
> it.
> 3. If Canadian I need to know what Provinces are included in it.
> 4. If outside of the United States and Canada, I need to know what
> countries are included in it.
>
> Thank you for your assistance
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> Censor
>
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| Subject: |
Pagan "Thought for the Day" |
| From: |
"Adrianus Arius Acadianus Draco" &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045015192254056209050218001036129208" >jhebert@--------&--------a> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:54:16 -0000 |
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Salvete Concives et Amici/ae,
There have been a few discussions regarding the (non-?)existence of
the Gods and other less-than-positive statements regarding the
Religio Romana bouncing back and forth, it seems to me. I thought it
might be refreshing to post a statement I found regarding one small
aspect of the Religio in a favourable light, a sort of "Pagan Thought
for the Day":
"Therefore, when we look at the images of the gods, let us not indeed
think they are stones or wood, but neither let us think they are the
gods themselves; and indeed we do not say that the statues of the
emperors are mere wood and stone and bronze, but still less do we say
they are the emperors themselves. He therefore who loves the emperor
delights to see the emperor's statue, and he who loves his son
delights to see his son's statue, and he who loves his father
delights to see his father's statue. It follows that he who loves
the gods delights to gaze on the images of the gods, and their
likenesses, and he feels reverence and shudders with awe of the gods
who look at him from the unseen world."
[from The Works of the Emperor Julian, Vol. II, "Letter to a Priest,"
Loeb Classical Library, 1969, at pg. 311, trans. by Wilmer Cave
Wright, Ph.D.]
Maybe we could occasionally post something positive about the Religio
gleaned from similar early writings?
Vobiscum omnia deorum optima,
Acadianus Draco
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Pagan "Thought for the Day" |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:32:33 EDT |
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This is great! Thanks for the Quote!
--Dex
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Pagan "Thought for the Day" |
| From: |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:37:26 +0100 |
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I am refreshed. Thank you, Draco!
Pace deorum,
Vado.
> Salvete Concives et Amici/ae,
>
> There have been a few discussions regarding the (non-?)existence of
> the Gods and other less-than-positive statements regarding the
> Religio Romana bouncing back and forth, it seems to me. I thought it
> might be refreshing to post a statement I found regarding one small
> aspect of the Religio in a favourable light, a sort of "Pagan Thought
> for the Day":
>
> "Therefore, when we look at the images of the gods, let us not indeed
> think they are stones or wood, but neither let us think they are the
> gods themselves; and indeed we do not say that the statues of the
> emperors are mere wood and stone and bronze, but still less do we say
> they are the emperors themselves. He therefore who loves the emperor
> delights to see the emperor's statue, and he who loves his son
> delights to see his son's statue, and he who loves his father
> delights to see his father's statue. It follows that he who loves
> the gods delights to gaze on the images of the gods, and their
> likenesses, and he feels reverence and shudders with awe of the gods
> who look at him from the unseen world."
>
> [from The Works of the Emperor Julian, Vol. II, "Letter to a Priest,"
> Loeb Classical Library, 1969, at pg. 311, trans. by Wilmer Cave
> Wright, Ph.D.]
>
> Maybe we could occasionally post something positive about the Religio
> gleaned from similar early writings?
>
> Vobiscum omnia deorum optima,
> Acadianus Draco
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Civis Novus |
| From: |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:43:50 +0100 |
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Quiritibus, salutem!
I was shocked to see this indecorous invitation posted in our Forum. Cannot
Censor Sulla and Pontifex Cassius do something about such impudicitia? And
from a flamina at that!
> <AMPVTATIO>.... Someone spank me, please?
Yours etc.
Outraged of Clausentum.
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| Subject: |
Request for Provincial Album Civium |
| From: |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:51:41 +0100 |
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Ave Censor honoratissime...
> When you make a request for your list of citizens, I need the following
> information:
>
> 1. Your Province
- Britannia
> 2. If its an American Province, I need to know what states incorporate
> it.
- It isn't.
> 3. If Canadian I need to know what Provinces are included in it.
- Nope again (Sertorius has overstepped the mark somewhat here with Canada
Occidentalis, don't you think?)
> 4. If outside of the United States and Canada, I need to know what
> countries are included in it.
- England, Wales, Scotland (Aprica decided that Hibernia would be another
provincia entirely, whether there were anyone living in it or not).
> Thank you for your assistance
- And thank you for yours. It will be useful to compare your list with last
year's Britannia census returns. Bene vale in operibus tuis,
N. Moravius Vado
Propraetor Provinciae Britanniae in Res Publica Novae Romae.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Civis Novus |
| From: |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:59:03 +0100 |
|
Salve Gai Albi Gadelice: scripsisti:
> I view myself as a Romano-Celt -- I am half Scottish by descent and speak
some Gaelic -- worshipping primarily Minerva/Athena Brigantia, though I find
myself praying to Iove more of late, and gens Albia, although a Roman gens,
will likely incorporate Celtic material through the interpretatio Romana and
my studies of the Proto-Indo-Europeans and their various descendent
cultures.
- Euge! Gens Moravia have been doing this for some time now. If you'd like
to compare notes, feel free to drop Aletheia and me a line.
Pace deorum,
N. Moravius Vado
Paterfamilias gentilis Moraviae and Romano-Brit.
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| Subject: |
Latin in the Rites |
| From: |
"Doug Barr" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=114015211254158209218218186036129208" >dhkbarr@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:44:02 -0700 |
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Salvete!
I have been reading over the various rites -- mostly the daily lararium rite and the rites for the Kalends, Nones, and Ides -- and have noticed that long vowels are not indicated in the Latin.
As a linguist, amateur Indo-Europeanist, intermittent student of Sanskrit, and all-round linguistic pedant, I believe that indication of the long vowels in Latin is important, where possible, as it indicates placement of the accent -- which is important for prosody -- and contributes to correct pronunciation. Further, it is easier for those who do not care to leave out the long vowels in pronunciation than it is for those who do care, but have little Latin, to supply them from memory.
Therefore, if the Pontifex Maximus and citizenry of Nova Roma are agreeable, I volunteer to re-write the various rites showing the long vowels. This is primarily an "implementation" task, requiring only basic knowledge of Latin syntax and access to a dictionary with verb and noun tables, both of which I possess.
I should note that as the circumflex accent ("^") is (as far as I know, unless encoding has been updated) much easier to encode in HTML than the traditional macron (the long flat bar), and furthermore is an entirely acceptable substitute for the macron in the transcription of Sanskrit, which also traditionally uses the macron to indicate vowel length in a Latinate orthography, I would use the circumflex accent rather than the macron.
Please let me know if this would be of assistance.
Valete,
Gaius Albius Gadelicus
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| Subject: |
Roman Christians |
| From: |
"Matt--------Of Puyallup" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=029056253105127132048199031248244208071048" >meowrig--------...</a> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:44:23 GMT |
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Are there any Christians in our Micro Nation? What role are christians
allowed to play in Nova Roma?
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Civis Novus |
| From: |
"Kyrene" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=200028091056078198015242190036129" &--------yrene@--------</a&--------/td>
|
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:57:55 -0400 |
|
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick For--------t;a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=123056234112159192112061175246231253136100139046209" >gens_moravia@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Civis Novus
> Quiritibus, salutem!
> I was shocked to see this indecorous invitation posted in our Forum.
Cannot
> Censor Sulla and Pontifex Cassius do something about such impudicitia? And
> from a flamina at that!
> > <AMPVTATIO>.... Someone spank me, please?
> Yours etc.
> Outraged of Clausentum.
Salve,
*chuckle* I had hoped that the comment was taken as it was meant, as an
honest attempt at a joke. It's good to see so many citizens of Nova Roma
that have such a wonderful sense of humor!
Vale et khaire,
Kyrinia
-=* Kyrene Ariadne/Andrea Gladia Kyrinia *=-
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-=* <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1527" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1527</a> *=-
-=* ~The Tholos~ *=-
-=* ICQ:6663573 Yahoo:KyreneAriadne AIM:KyreneAriadne *=-
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| Subject: |
Re: Latin in the Rites |
| From: |
"RMerullo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=194232192180194153138149203043129208071" >rmerullo@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:00:26 -0400 |
|
Salvete Cai Albi et alii
Welcome to Nova Roma.
>I have been reading over the various rites -- mostly the daily lararium
rite and the rites for the Kalends, Nones, and Ides -- and have noticed that
long vowels are not indicated in the Latin. >As a linguist, amateur
Indo-Europeanist, intermittent student of Sanskrit, and all-round linguistic
pedant, I believe that indication of the long vowels in Latin is important,
where possible, as it indicates placement of the accent -- which is
important for prosody -- and contributes to correct pronunciation.
Good point.
Further, it is easier for those who do not care to leave out the long
vowels in pronunciation than it is for those who do care, but have little
Latin, to supply them from memory.
That's true.
>
>Therefore, if the Pontifex Maximus and citizenry of Nova Roma are
agreeable, I volunteer to re-write the various rites showing the long
vowels. This is primarily an "implementation" task, requiring only basic
knowledge of Latin syntax and access to a dictionary with verb and noun
tables, both of which I possess.
Since we're all pedantic anyway, why not go all the way and transliterate
all the texts into phonetic code? So, for each ritual, there would be 3
pages -- English, Latin, and phonetic Latin. Of course, this would also
entail coming up with a legend for the phonetic code, or perhaps linking to
an existing one. I'll keep my eye out for one.
But however you choose to proceed, it sounds like a very worthwhile
contribution. Thank you!
Valete
C Marius Merullus
post scriptum On the subject of the pedantic, I have been unwittingly
deceiving all of you for quite some time now. The vocative form of Gaius is
Gai/Cai not Gaie/Caie, at least according to Augustus. This surprises me,
given the consonantal nature of the i there. Oh well.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Roman Christians |
| From: |
"Augusti--------ulia Caesaria Noctur--------#34; <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=091176219007018031015158190036129" >--------la@--------</a> |
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Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:09:38 +0100 |
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Salvete Omnes!
I wonder if I may be allowed to answer this question.
I am a Roman Pagan, fully practicing and proud of it but yes there are quite
a few Chrisitians in Nova Roma and a few of other Religions (including
Nordic Pagans and at least one Jew that I know of!).
These citizens hold full citizenship as they should.
They are a great asset to Nova Roma for the other aspects of Rome. Rome was
not only it's Religion but a whole way of life!
Citizens of other faith pursue other interests in Rome, for example Military
History, Roman Cookery, Roman Political History, Classical Studies and
Archaeological interests to name but a few of the things that we ALL as Nova
Romans do in fact have interest in.
There are only a few positions that non-Roman Pagans cannot fill and they
are the Priesthoods for obvious reasons.
There is no difference in a citizen because of his/her faith.
We are all Roman and that is all that matters.
To end this post I quote the Constitution:
Article II Citizens and Gentes.
Section III. Citizenship is open to anyone regardless of ethnic heritage,
gender, religious affiliation, or sexual orientation.
I hope this clears some things up!
Valete omnes!
Noct'a
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Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia
Materfamilias of the British gens Iulia Caesaria
etc, etc, etc
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Subject: [novaroma] Roman Christians
> Are there any Christians in our Micro Nation? What role are christians
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Re: [novaroma] Pagan "Thought for the Day" |
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Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:12:51 EDT |
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I am heartened by your quote Draco. It's great! Thanks!
--Silvanus
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Re: [novaroma] Roman Christians |
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Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:15:17 -0700 |
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Salve
Yes there are Christians and Jews (I am a Jew) Our Junior Consul is a
Christian. We all have equal rights according to the Nova Roman
Constitution.
What questions specifically do you have?
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor
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Macrons & Mysteries |
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"Adrianus Arius Acadianus Draco" &-------- href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045015192254056209050218001036129208" >jhebert@--------&--------a> |
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Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:27:40 -0000 |
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Salvete Cives,
I think that Gadelicus' offer to input the Latin text of the rites
indicating long vowels is magnanimous. Not everyone has yet
amassed two or three decades of experience in reading Latin, and for
beginners especially I think it would be an act of providential
mercy. I remember fighting through a few unmarked texts back in my
early studies; it wasn't a picus-nicus. Far from being "pedantic," I
think the offer shows good judgement in view of the current
situation, and is extremely generous. Although it will
undoubtedly entail a tremendous amount of work on Gadelicus' part, I
think that its result will be a great step toward assisting the
Republic's Latin novices into actively using and understanding the
language.
Bravo, Gadelice! Go for it!
Valete omnes,
Acadianus Draco
PS: Not to be overly pendantic, but isn't the "i" in "Gaius" a bit
more semi-vocalic than consonantal .... ;o)
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Re: [novaroma] Civis Novus |
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<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=114056113185089095081021203102129208071" >dean6886@--------</a> |
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Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:48:01 -0500 (CDT) |
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Here we go--- anyone for a BDSM sodales in Nova Roma as it might
even get us the publicity of a tv special on HBO---lolrotflmao.
Gaius Drusus Domitianus
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Re: [novaroma] Latin in the Rites |
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Marcus Pap--------s Justus <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197166104009127132130232203026129208071" >pap--------s@--------</a> |
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Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:00:14 -0600 |
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At 01:44 PM 4/11/00 -0700, you wrote:
>I should note that as the circumflex accent ("^") is (as far as I know,
>unless encoding has been updated) much easier to encode in HTML than the
>traditional macron (the long flat bar), and furthermore is an entirely
>acceptable substitute for the macron in the transcription of Sanskrit,
>which also traditionally uses the macron to indicate vowel length in a
>Latinate orthography, I would use the circumflex accent rather than the macron.
Of course, one could simply use a capital letter in the appropriate spot,
much as the ancients did in numerous inscriptions ...
mpj
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