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Re: [novaroma] Meeting in California |
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Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:16:41 -0700 |
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And this addendum...is just to let everyone know that Helena and I will be
there @ 11 am! :)
Does anyone need directions to the restaurant again? I will be happy to
post them.
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor
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Fro--------#34;Greta" <a href="/post/novaro--------rotectID=165158192237078153036181001245114223071048139" >oceanlilly@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Cc: <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 4:26 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Meeting in California
> To all civies,
>
> There will be a meeting tomorrow (Saturday) in San Gabriel,
> California at a (very good!) Italian restaurant. Sulla and
> I are expecting a turnout of about 10 Nova Romans. We are
> very excited and I will write up a report of the goings-on
> to be posted next week.
>
> I ask former Praetor & now Pontiff Ericius to implore the
> Gods' blessing for the success of this meeting.
>
> -Helena Cornelia Ovidia Equitia
> Propraetrix of California
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Any other civis speaks spanish ? |
| From: |
"Lucius Pompeius Octavianus" <a hre--------post/novaroma?protectID=114166234009056153112037203168129208071" >danielov@--------</a> |
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Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:55:47 -0000 |
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Hola. Yo soy de Buenos Aires. Espero que le guste esta ciudad. Me
alegro encontrar alguien que hable espa=F1ol. As=ED podr=E9
intercambiar
mensajes sobre la antigua Roma en este idioma , ya sea en el mailing
list o en e-mail.
Le env=EDo saludos cordiales. Hasta la pr=F3xima
--- In <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>, "Jeffrey L. Graham" jeffreygraham@j...
wrote:
> Yo hablo eapanol. hace como 15 anos pasaba un ano en la ciudad de
> Mexico, y tambien vivia dos meses en caracas y 4 meses en Buenos
Aires.
> :)
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 22:16:20 -0000 "Lucius Pompeius Octavianus"
<-------- size=-1 color="#008000">> danielov@-------- writes:
> > Ave.
> > I would like to know if there are others cives who speak spanish.
> > Salve.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: |
Sodalitas Bibliophilatica |
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| Date: |
Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:26:36 EDT |
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Salvete omnes, et Gai Mari Merulle,
The idea of Nerdly Sodality appeals to me very much. I must confess,
however, that I'm not immediately enamoured with "bibliophilus" as the best
first choice for "nerd." Maybe the first Nerdic Convocation could be
commissioned to select an truly adequate, dignified and suitably pedantic
word to convey the full richness and limitless variety of Nerdery?
Valete,
Acadianus Draco
PS: Since when is "orthography" a nerdy word!? "Diphthongalisation" I could
understand -- that's the sort of word that could make you drool into your
pocket protector...
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| Subject: |
History of Nova Roma. |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:00:02 EDT |
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Salvete!
I was just thinking about the idea that was tossed around here on this
list a while back about getting an official history of Nova Roma written.
Personally, I love this idea; in fact, I think it's absolutely necessary. If
we don't write the history now, and a later generation of Romans chooses to
take up the work, then what's going on now in Nova Roma will undoubtedly be
distorted.
What does everybody think?
For the Senate and The Roman People, Valete!
Drusus Cornelius Claudius
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| Subject: |
Gladiator the movie links |
| From: |
"S--------dan/ Hibernicus" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=034056178009193132062218046036129208" >legioix@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 06:00:58 -0000 |
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<a href="http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Cinema/1501/indexglad.html" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Cinema/1501/indexglad.html</a>
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8865/gladiator/gladiator.html" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8865/gladiator/gladiator.html</a>
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] History of Nova Roma. |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:01:44 -0700 |
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There is a part of it....its located in the Camenaeum (sp) LOL.....I wish it
was more developed....but also remember there are the archives at
onelist.com too! They are consistent after the 5th of Nova Roma's
existence. :)
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor
----- Original Message -----
From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132212044112194233114149109101130130239146031196234130152150" >DrususCornelius@--------</--------;
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 11:00 PM
Subject: [novaroma] History of Nova Roma.
> Salvete!
>
> I was just thinking about the idea that was tossed around here on this
> list a while back about getting an official history of Nova Roma written.
> Personally, I love this idea; in fact, I think it's absolutely necessary.
If
> we don't write the history now, and a later generation of Romans chooses
to
> take up the work, then what's going on now in Nova Roma will undoubtedly
be
> distorted.
> What does everybody think?
>
> For the Senate and The Roman People, Valete!
> Drusus Cornelius Claudius
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Gladiator the movie links |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:02:15 -0700 |
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Great Links!
L. Cornelius Sulla Felix
----- Original Message -----
From: "S--------dan/ Hibernicus" <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=034056178009193132062218046036129208" >legioix@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 11:00 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Gladiator the movie links
> <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Cinema/1501/indexglad.html" target="_top" >http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Cinema/1501/indexglad.html</a>
>
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>
>
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| Subject: |
History of Nova Roma (and NEW BOOKS!) |
| From: |
Jennifer E Hunt <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=194176114182127134138038203001129208071" >riturtle@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 08:21:15 -0400 |
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Salve, omnes!
> D-------- S--------22 Apr 2000 02:00:02 EDT, <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132212044112194233114149109101130130239146031196234130152150" >DrususCornelius@--------</--------; writes:
> I was just thinking about the idea that was tossed around here on
this
> list a while back about getting an official history of Nova Roma
written.
> Personally, I love this idea; in fact, I think it's absolutely
necessary. If
> we don't write the history now, and a later generation of Romans
chooses to
> take up the work, then what's going on now in Nova Roma will
undoubtedly be
> distorted.
> What does everybody think?
Well, I was going to wait until after Cassius's honeymoon was over, but .
. . .
I was just reading about the "Annales Maxima." The Pontifex Maximus kept
a white noticeboard ("tabula dealbata") with news, lists of magistrates,
and events outside the Regia. Eventually, this information was condensed
or copied into a more permanent record for each year from the beginning
of Roman history through the time of P. Mucius Scaevloa (c. 120 BCE) and
includes the names of the consuls and other magistrates, and events for
each day (if any). What an excellent tradition for us to institute with
Nova Roma, although to begin with, many of us could pitch in to
reconstruct the chronicles of the past two years. Once begun, it
shouldn't be too difficult to keep up -- it's not as if there's as much
happening in our still mostly virtual community as there would be if we
were a physical community and growing empire.
By the way, I was reading about this in a new book I just got, _The
Beginnings of Rome: Italy and Rome from the Bronze Age to the Punic Wars
(c. 100-264 BC)_ by T.J. Cornell. I've only gotten part way through the
first chapter on sources and their relative reliability, but it looks to
be full of gems of information. Has anyone else read it? Just wish I
had more time to sit and pore over it!
One other book which might interest folks -- you've all heard of Morgan
Llywellan, the author of all those books about ancient Celts and their
legendary heros? Well, she's departed from the Celts for a while and
just published her first in a "Beloved of the Gods" series, _The
Etruscans_. I just started it last night, and so far, so good. She had
to do some serious research for this one, in order to recreate the
Etruscans--I'd love to have a list of her sources!! We've been led to
believe that so much about the Etruscans is a deep mystery, never to be
solved, but there has been a good deal of research in the past few
decades (including several tomes I'm itching to get my hands on!), and we
know *so* much more about them now than we ever thought we would --
enough for someone as ambitious as Llwyellan to take a stab at realistic
historical fiction, at least. Check it out!
Pax Deorum vobiscum,
Jenni Hunt
a/k/a Iulia Ovidia Luna
Pontifex et Aedile Plebis, Nova Roma
Rhoda Insula Provincia Legate
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] re: pronounciation of names |
| From: |
"Augusti--------ulia Caesaria Noctur--------#34; <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=091176219007018031015158190036129" >--------la@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:26:55 +0100 |
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> <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=123202250237229116184218046036129208" >gkbagne@--------</a> wrote:
>
> > As the pronunciation of a language drifts, names are even worse. Look
> > how they got sin-jin for Saint John,
sin-jin is actually singeon :)
not to mention Juan Johan and
> > Ian. I work with a guy named Ian who pronounces it eye-an.
Are you sure it isn't the Irish Iain?
So Julius the younger can be Jew-lee-us the hew-nee-or
> > (junior)if he wants to. Lapella
Hmm I always pronounce a j as an i so Ivlivs would be yu-li-us
Or is that just me?
Noct'a
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Augustina Iulia Caesaria Nocturnia
Materfamilias of the British gens Iulia Caesaria
etc, etc, etc
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| Subject: |
An interesting website about ancient Rome |
| From: |
"Lucius Pompeius Octavianus" <a hre--------post/novaroma?protectID=114166234009056153112037203168129208071" >danielov@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:57:45 -0000 |
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Salvete omnes.
I=B4ve just seen a fascinating and amazing web site about ancient
Rome
with webcams live and virtual tours. The Url is :
<a href="http://capitolium.org/" target="_top" >http://capitolium.org/</a> . I=B4ve found it Really gorgeous and
fantastic.
You can watch Rome live with a webcam you can control and spectacular
photos of the ruins. It is worth visiting it.
Valete
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
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| Subject: |
Sodalitas Latinistarum |
| From: |
"M. Apollonius Formosanus" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=014130014161146028033082190" >bvm3@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 18:59:26 +0200 |
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Salve O Gaii Mari Marullo et alii!
I for one am ready to embrace the creation of a
Sodalitas Bibliophilorum. Or perhaps call it S.
Latinistarum, S. Latinfuriosorum, S. ad Res Latinitatis, S.
Grammatica (which in Latin includes all sorts of philology
and literature as well as purely linguistic studies, not
just "grammar"). I have taken the initiative of opening a
list at at <a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=226166114009078132050098000248130208071048" >Latinitas@--------</a> to facilitat--------r
discussion of these matters. There we can discuss these
without molesting our fellow citizens with too many nasty
macrons and menacing diphthongalisations, and even in Latin
to our hearts' content. I have not ventured to put "Nova
Roma" in the title of the group, as I have not been
authorised to do so by any magistrate or the Senate.
I already offered in my new citizenship "oration" to
produce a Latin course to be offered urbi et orbi, and it
received the private approbation and encouragement of our
excellent Pontifex Maximus, which was good enough to set me
to work on it. I already have a lot of the materials from a
local course in my computer, so I shall be producing the
first lessons soon. I do not need any help with that phase
of things, but after I have something to show, I shall ask
my fellow Latine periti to check it for errors (Errare
humanum est) and to propose improvements (No one person can
think of everything). After such a course gets the reader up
to an intermediate level, it may desirable for others to
produce informative or educative modules on various phases
of Romanitas in Latin to strengthen and broaden the
learners' Latin and draw them further into our shared
culture.
As there is to the best of my knowledge no serious free
course in Latin on the Internet (!!!) despite all of the
grammatical and lexical help and texts available, our Latin
course should be the key to make the systematic study of
Latin available to all English speakers around the world who
hunger and thirst after Latinity. I can visualise a whole
section of the Nova Roma site dedicated to the education of
the interested world in things Latin.
As to other Latin tasks in Nova Roma, I am ready to take
my fair share, if someone can figure out what that is. And
in the Sodalitas.
I would like to mention that I am by no means so
ferocious as to suggest crucifixions for those not adhering
to the Restored Pronuntiation of Latin, nor do I wish to do
anything at all unfriendly towards Nova Romans who have no
interest in learning Latin. No pushing of anything down
anyone's throat is proposed. So, surely *everyone* will
agree that it is meet and right that Nova Roma should do
what it can to further Latinity, since there are those of us
here to attend to that task. Right? :-)
I look forward to hearing from interested cives at the
new list or here. The programme of Gaius Marius is very
interesting to me, and I hope that others will feel the
same.
Joyous Vinalia to all!
Marcus Apollonius Formosanus,
Silesia, Polonia
ICQ# 61698049
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| Subject: |
UNIVERSAL SOLDIER, JAMESTOWN & ROMAN DAYS |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:14:59 -0400 |
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Salvete,
Since the "Current Events" <a href="http://www.novaroma.org/events.html" target="_top" >http://www.novaroma.org/events.html</a> page has not been 'updated' since...?
I thought I would post some events that will be taking place in the Washington DC area in the next couple of months.
I will be present on the Friday afternoons before these event to set up camp. Anyone in the area should try to come out and meet fellow Romans. Last weekend our Rogator: Merlinia Ambrosia Artori came out to visit us at Marietta Mansion during MARCHING THROUGH TIME (MTT). She brought the Legio gifts (I got a splendid hand carved spoon,Merlinia, Mille Grati Tibi Ago!) and edible goodies while visiting the area with her husband.
If any of you can make any of these events you will be glad you did as there are plenty of interesting things to see other than us Romani. I hope to meet some of you in the next few months.
Valete, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus
Flamen Martialis, Augur, Pontifex et Senator
UNIVERSAL SOLDIER, April 29-30 at Fort Washington National Park in Maryland. It's another time-line event, probably a little bigger than last year and hopefully with a little more actually going on. It runs 10 AM to 5 PM on Saturday, and 10 to 3 on Sunday. The tent will be there for camping Saturday night, though if you plan to arrive on Friday you'd better let me know.
Fort Washington Park is on Fort Washington Road in Fort Washington, MD (does that make sense?). From I-95/495 the Capital Beltway, take Rt. 210 Indian Head Highway South; go about 4 miles and turn right at the light onto Fort Washington Road, which ends about 3.5 miles later at the park entrance. I believe there is an entrance fee at the front gate, but I never have to pay so how would I know?
For more information on either of these, the site contacts: Roy Ashley at Fort Washington, 301-763-4600.
JAMESTOWN--On May 13-14 the Legion will be encamped at Jamestown Settlement Park in Williamsburg, VA, as part of a display of the evolution of armor. The Park's museum will have a display of armor found in Virginia compared with similar pieces on loan from Europe. We will be camped outside the museum with 5 medieval and Renaissance groups, all sporting their own sorts of armor. As a departure from our usual gig, those of us who have equipment from earlier or later Roman periods are going to be bringing that, to give an overview of the evolution of Roman armor. May 13 is Landing Day, the actual anniversary of the first landing at Jamestown. Apparently that will be the big day, with Sunday being more relaxed (we won't have to stay until closing). There will be an area for javelin-chucking and slinging, as well as for drill and combat. The Park will feed us on Saturday night, and I expect most of us will opt to camp out rather than try to find a hotel room at the height of tourist season in Williamsburg.
ROMAN DAYS
June 10-11 is the date for the third annual Roman Days, also at Marietta Mansion. All the Romans (and other ancient types) in the world are hereby invited to participate! Military and civilian living history displays/camps will be lined up on the upper lawn near the house, with merchants and educational static displays down on the field ("Forum") as before. A large area will be roped off for tactical displays, weapon demonstrations, and other activities. My energetic sister Emilie ("Dr. E") is planning some new activities aimed mostly at children, such as mosaic-making, Bean the Barbarian, and the "Kiddy Cohort" (teaching them to drill with cardboard shields).
The schedule so far:
FRIDAY
Arrival and set-up, general hobnobbing
SATURDAY
10 AM, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
11 AM, Full muster and opening remarks
12 Noon, Lunch--cooking and eating demos
1 PM, Massed tactical and drill demo
2 PM, Fashion Show
3 PM, Evolution of the Roman Soldier
4 PM, Close to the public
SUNDAY
10 AM, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
11 AM, Olympic competition--Armor Race, Pilum Throw, Hamata Toss, Wrestling, various ball games, etc.
12 Noon, Lunch and rehabilitation
1 PM, Massed tactical and drill demo
2 PM, Fashion Show
3 PM, Closing parade
4 PM, Close to the public
Admission for the public will be a buck or two, and there should be plenty of space on the grounds for parking. Participants may camp in period or modern tents--the latter should either be set up out of sight on the lower field or simply taken down during public hours. We'll have a large pavilion canopy and a number of smaller pop-up flies for sun and/or rain protection. (Modern canopies and flies are permitted because for some reason there just aren't enough leather ones to go around...)
If you have any other ideas or need more info, just yell.
Where: Marietta Mansion in Glenn Dale, Maryland, 4 miles east of I-95/I-495 (Capital Beltway) near the junction of Routes 450 and 193.
Directions: T--------the C----------------eltw--------I-95/I-495) to exist 20. T--------564 e--------(L--------m Severn Ro--------briefly to 450 e--------(Ann--------is Ro-------- St--------n 450 for --------oxim--------y 4 miles, then t--------193 north (Glenn G--------Blvd.). Turn left onto Bell St--------n Ro----------------the M--------tt--------nsion Historic Site will be on your left. For more inform--------n, cont--------: Sus--------olfe for M--------tt--------01-464-5291, <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=061143253078021198148248200248147208071048" >swolfe612@--------</--------;
For further information on the Legio XX, see <a href="http://www.larp.com/legioxx/index.html" target="_top" >http://www.larp.com/legioxx/index.html</a>
Matthew Amt (Quintus), 9416 Rhode Is-------- Ave., Co--------e Park, MD 20740-1639 (USA), phone 301-345-0582, emai--------t;a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029166014165146153033082190" >mamt@--------&--------a>. Check back often for the --------st updates, and --------me know what e--------you want to see on this site!
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| Subject: |
Re: Robinson's AIR |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:22:55 -0400 |
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Salvete,
I think it is an excellent idea. I would be willing to put my money down for
a copy or two. Having said this, I would still rather have 'real' book :-)
L Equitius, Legio XX (Maryland, USA)
PS Whatever happened to the reprint of Roman Military Equipment?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
Listmembers will doubtless recall discussions on the subject of reprinting
Robinson's *Armour of Imperial Rome* a few months ago and that there is no
immediate prospect of this taking place.
I have been thinking (and spurred into action by similar suggestions by a
recent new Arma subscriber) about the paradox (everybody wants it but the
likely publisher is unconvinced that *enough* people want it) and have a
possible halfway-house solution that I would like (tentatively) to air in
this forum. I would be interested to know how listmembers would feel about
the publication of the book as a PDF (Portable Document Format, readable
with the Adobe Acrobat Reader) on a commercial CDROM. Before anybody
screams out loud and protests that you couldn't read it in the bath (you
can't really read the original in the bath, either, although I dare say
some have tried...), here are some of the advantages of this approach:
1. The book could be produced in close imitation of its original format,
so that anybody who has an A3 printer (there are now several around) could
print out hardcopy at full size, whilst others with just A4 (or US letter
;-)
printers could produce reduced size versions of any bits they might need.
2. Contents and index entries could be hyperlinked to the appropriate
place in the text, so looking things up on the CDROM would be fairly
painless. Moreover, the text would be searchable by the user.
3. Costs are far less than for the production of a dead-tree book, so it
could be sold for a comparatively small cover price that would
nevertheless make a profit for the publisher and pay a royalty to
Robinson's widow.
4. Because it would be completely re-set (just scanning the pages would
not produce searchable text and all the halftones need re-scanning
independently for reasons of clarity in some cases, and Moiré distortion
in all), the master document used to generate the PDF could also, if the
publisher should change their mind, eventually be used to produce a
printed version. It is not beyond the wit of man to include a simple
questionnaire with the CDROM asking if the purchaser would also be
interested in a printed book.
5. Ultimately the clincher, in my view: the book will exist again for all
those who do not have (or have access to) the printed original.
PDF and all other electronic media have a huge range of disadvantages,
despite the best efforts of M$, Adobe and others to get 'E-books' accepted.
Nevertheless, the success of Stephen King's recent short story
(half-a-million sold, reputedly) might show that these disadvantages can,
occasionally, outweigh the advantages.
So, waddya think?
Mike Bishop
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