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Re: [novaroma] Munus to Flora LEVES ? |
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"M G" <a hre--------post/novaroma?protectID=230212192112185190015225190036129" >--------co@--------</a> |
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Sun, 30 Apr 2000 02:42:49 +0300 |
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----- Original Message -----
From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=061044104089235135169082190036" >sfp55@--------</--------;
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: sabato, 29 aprile, 2000 22.10
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Munus to Flora LEVES ?
> True Marcus Prometheus. However during the monarchy and the early
republic
> while Rome still used the hoplite phalanx as their organization the
poorest
> civies would cover its advance. This were called leves.
> Vale
> Q. Fabius
Thank You, I didn't know.
Marcus Prometheus
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Senex |
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Sun, 30 Apr 2000 04:53:40 -0000 |
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Salve.
No.
I am saying that I am an Old Man.
I'm certainly feeling old with some of the recent "trials and
tribulations" but I am also saying that I have indeed been around
for a while. Not as long as Audens =({[;-) [hehehe]
But definitely not on my first time around the block.
Besides, it would have been redundent to use it as you so
graciously interpret it. And your interpretation would be
valid. It is just not the case.
Di Deaque te ament.
Valete.
C. Aelius Ericius.
--- In <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>, "J.D. Porter" poeticfiend@h... wrote:
>
> Salve,
>
> Ericius isn't trying to tell us he is aged in his title. Senex in
the sense
> he used it means Senator, from which it came from. The group of
elders (old
> men) deciding on governing matters became the later Senate.
>
> -Gaius Tullius
> Praetor et Senex
>
>
>
> >From: jmath669642reng@--------
> >Reply-To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
> >To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
> >Subject: [novaroma] Senex
> >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:27:47 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >Senex--Old man or aged--My handy little Oxford Latin dictonary from
> >Madiera.
> >
> >Marcus Audens
> >
> >Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
re: Public apology... and a question |
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Sun, 30 Apr 2000 02:20:40 EDT |
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<And I still think that the Meakers were coward for Marcus Cassius Iulianus
cannot at the moment answer your statements on this list.>
<<From my own experience, the Meakers like to do this, it gives them attention
where they can steal the limelight whilst their object of ridicule cannot
defend, thus making them look all the more triumphant. >>
I think most folks who've read these emails realize that the Pontifex Maximus
gave the advice to the Meakers that he felt would best help them in their
personal situation. The fact that he saw them as a family in need rather
than as a platform to make a political statement should be commended.
Now I have a question -- the Meakers raised the issue of being willing to
risk one's children to prove faith in the Religio. I've always associated
the idea of being willing to suffer extreme hardship rather than verbally
deny one's faith with Christian martyrdom. Can anyone tell me (with
examples) to what extent this practice can be found in ancient Pagan
religions?
Iustinia Cassia
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| Subject: |
Re: "Pagan Martyrs" |
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Sun, 30 Apr 2000 02:35:15 EDT |
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Salve, Iustinia Cassia,
Your question about pagans suffering extreme hardship is very interesting
indeed, and I believe there are recorded instances. I think I can come up
with some documented examples to share within the next couple of days. One
"species" of persecution does come to mind right away, however:
Although he did not suffer death or imprisonment for his beliefs, the pagan
Prefect of Rome, Quintus Aurelius Symmachus (died c. 402) did much to defend
paganism under the persecutions unleashed by the Emperor Gratian and others.
He was apparently "chased out of town" at one point, subsequent to his
attempting to reinstall the Altar of Victory in the Senate (which Gratian had
ordered removed as part of his anti-pagan programme).
I believe there may also be instances in the Provinces and among the Asatruar
in somewhat later times. I will look into the matter and get back with
references. The question is fascinating -- as are so many which pop up here.
Thanks.
Vale, et valete omnes,
Acadianus Draco
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| Subject: |
Neo-Pagan Growth {was A Proposal for Legislation} |
| From: |
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=226028211237082190172248203043129208071" >Lykaion1@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Apr 2000 02:47:31 EDT |
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In a message dated 4/29/00 2:10:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=219202020056021131184218141036129208" >--------ffe@--------</a> writes:
<< "According to the Institute for the Study of American Religion, Neopaganism
is the fastest growing religion in the United States."
_A Sourcebook for the Community of Religions: the Council for a Parliament
of the World's Religions_. Joel Beversluis, ed. pp. 101.>>
Actually, the correct quote is as follows:
"According to the Institute for
the Study of American Religion (U.C. at Santa Barbara), Goddess
spirituality, to which Wicca is a venerable contributor, is the
fastest growing religion in America." {from CHAPTER EIGHTEEN
A PORTRAIT OF WICCA by H.Ps. Phyllis W. Curott, J.D.
President Emerita, Covenant of the Goddess}
I do not have any of the books published by the ISAR, but I do think that
Phyllis Curott is incorrect. I went to Adherents.Com to do some checking on
growth statistics. In Neo-Pagan resources, the center explained that, "Solid
statistics on Neo-Paganism on
a worldwide scale are essentially non-existent, but it is a rapidly growing
religion/religious category. Estimates regarding its
worldwide size range widely--from under one hundred thousand to over four
million. Independent surveys and government-based figures are not indicative
of the higher estimates provided by Neo-Pagan and Wiccan organizations, but
there may be a variety of reasons for this."
Why the difference? I guess it is likely that Wiccan/Neo-Pagan groups stats
would not take into account overlapping memberships and affiliations, nor
would they be keeping tabs on the thrill-seekers as opposed to the
real-seekers.
Adherents.Com gives as the largest world-wide estimate for neo-pagans at
about 3,000,000, but stresses that the largest figure is not necessarily the
correct figure. It then provides a breakdown of American neo-paganism by
state, based on the work of Helen A. Berger's 'A Community of Witches:
Contemporary Neo-Paganism and Witchcraft in the United States.{University of
South Carolina Press,1999}
Berger's work shows not that Neo-Paganism is THE fastest growing religion in
America, but is the fastest growing of the 'New Religions'. The difference
looks subtle, but is significant. All indications seem to be that THE
fastest growing religion in America is Islam {a fact which gives me some
uneasiness}. Adherents.Com also shows what Berger's stats are based on,
which I won't type out here.
It looks like a facinating web site, and it was cited by The Witches Voice
web site.
Gaius Lupinius Festus
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Re: To Festus and all others |
| From: |
<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=226028211237082190172248203043129208071" >Lykaion1@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Apr 2000 02:49:32 EDT |
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Salve Draco!
Have you sent the Eagle any articles about Roman jurisprudence or it's
legal system? You would probably be excellent at that.
Festus
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| Subject: |
Re: Festo, de Iure |
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| Date: |
Sun, 30 Apr 2000 02:53:15 EDT |
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Salve Feste!
About sending the Eagle (or anyone else) materials on Roman Jurisprudence, I
leave my paying job and its interests *blessedly* in the office! :o)
I just do legal work for a living! Roman history and religion, and the Latin
language (and a few other things) are what I enjoy dealing with in my Real
World. But thanks for the thought!
Bene te habe,
Acadianus Draco
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| Subject: |
My AOL IM |
| From: |
Helena <a href="/post/novaro--------rotectID=165158192237078153036181001245114223071048139" >oceanlilly@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Apr 2000 06:36:43 -0400 (EDT) |
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As some of you know, I have been using Sulla's "Instant
Messenger" (username:Nova Roman) since I moved in with
him last year. I have decided to reactivate my old
username:Equitia-and to use that when I am online and/or
when Sulla is at work. You're welcome to add it to your
"Buddy List." :)
-Helena
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| Subject: |
NR in French |
| From: |
"Cornelius Scriptor" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=219233091185056153036168000126229241039102131192183239161126172205142" >cornelius_scriptor@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:39:00 -0000 |
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Salvete
I'm the one who was entrusted in translating the NR site in French.
It's now up, but faaaaaar from completed. I don't have much free
time, so it took a little longer than expected. You can see it there:
<a href="http://cornelius_scriptor.tripod.com/index_fr.html" target="_top" >http://cornelius_scriptor.tripod.com/index_fr.html</a>
I do need some help to continue the translation. It's not difficult,
but it requires time I sadly lack. I have some ideas of sections to
add to the site (like a book review i'm working on), but it will have
to wait.
Also, I could be a nice idea to regroup french-speaking citizens into
an association, or at least a mailing list, so we can stay in
contact. E-mail me if you're interested, we'll see what we can do.
Valete
Marcus Cornelius Scriptor
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| Subject: |
Problem |
| From: |
"Cornelius Scriptor" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=219233091185056153036168000126229241039102131192183239161126172205142" >cornelius_scriptor@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:45:23 -0000 |
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Me again,
I just send a e-mail to the Curator Araneae, and the message was
returned to me (permanent fatal error). Someone know where I should
send the message?
Scriptor
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Problem |
| From: |
"Augusti--------ulia Caesaria Noctur--------#34; <a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=091176219007018031015158190036129" >--------la@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:47:42 +0100 |
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I recieved the email.
I am o--------f the recipie--------of the '<a href="/post/--------roma?protectID=125056250213158233050038109248006208071048" >webmaster@--------</a>' address.
Noct'a
> Me again,
>
> I just send a e-mail to the Curator Araneae, and the message was
> returned to me (permanent fatal error). Someone know where I should
> send the message?
>
> Scriptor
>
>
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| Subject: |
French Translation |
| From: |
Helena <a href="/post/novaro--------rotectID=165158192237078153036181001245114223071048139" >oceanlilly@--------</a> |
| Date: |
Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:36:36 -0400 (EDT) |
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Salve my fellow gens-member!
I am indeed available and able I think to do some translation work. :) [Written,(not oral) is my strong point!] Please email me privately.
-Helena Cornelia
Salvete
I'm the one who was entrusted in translating the NR site in French. It's now up, but faaaaaar from completed. I don't have much free time, so it took a little longer than expected. You can see it there:
<a href="http://cornelius_scriptor.tripod.com/index_fr.html" target="_top" >http://cornelius_scriptor.tripod.com/index_fr.html</a>
I do need some help to continue the translation. It's not difficult, but it requires time I sadly lack. I have some
ideas of sections to add to the site (like a book review i'm working on), but it will have to wait. Also, I could be a nice idea to regroup french-speaking citizens into an association,
or at least a mailing list, so we can stay in contact. E-mail
me if you're interested, we'll see what we can do.
Valete
Marcus Cornelius Scriptor
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