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Subject:	Gladiator
From:
Date:	Sun, 07 May 2000 20:58:50 -0700

Greetings!

I saw the movie Gladiator today and must admit that it was GREAT! Very
well laid plot that kept me interested throughout the entire movie.
Displays some of the best and worst that the Romans had to offer -- well
balanced!

Tacitus


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] free speech thanks
From:	"M G" <a hre--------post/novaroma?protectID=230212192112185190015225190036129" >--------co@--------</a>
Date:	Mon, 8 May 2000 04:14:12 +0300

----- Original Message -----
From: Mar--------O--------ius Germani--------<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=180075219163056135025082190036" >hu----------------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>

>
> > I, Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus Macedonicus as a citizen of Nova Roma
> > ask publicly our Censorial authorities to banish so called Marcus
> > Prometheus from the main list and to consider about quiting his
> > citizenship.
>
> Such an action would have a chilling effect on free speech on this list.
> Must someone be ejected every time a controversial matter arises?
> Differences of opinion must be permitted to flourish!
> If you don't like something, don't read it. >
> M. Octavius Germanicus
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Dear M. Octavius Germanicus,

I would like to thank you heartily
for your defense of free speech !

By pure chance I just received a post on a list
of archaeo - glottology ( IndoEuropean studies)
which I find interesting on FREE SPEECH.

Vale, Marcus Prometheus (the so called)

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----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Odegard <a --------="/post/novaroma?protectID=029166091163193154184242175148081165094048139046" >markodegard@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:cybalist@--------" >cybalist@--------</a>
Sent: 08 may, 2000 0.37
Subject: Re: [cybalist] Digest Number 32

From: Tommy Tyrberg

I would like to point out that contrary to common belief "lapp" is *not*
pejorative. It is the traditional East Nordic/Finnish name for the Sami, it
has been used at least since the twelfth century and the origin and meaning
of the word is quite uncertain. It is however not considered politically
correct in Sweden nowadays, probably on the general assumption that *any*
traditional name for an ethnic group is automatically racist.

Tommy Tyrberg

The modern disease of political correctness is often run on ignorance, with
the result that some historically and ethnically interesting and entirely
unexceptionable ethnic words are being driven out. The idea "that any
traditional name for an ethnic group is automatically racist" is as much an
American notion as Tommy says it is a Swedish one.

Lots and lots of Americans think 'Canuck' is perjorative, to the point you
sometimes come across a tempest-in-a-teapot with the self-righteously
ignorant objector being put into their place by Johnny Canuck. You might as
well say Uncle Sam and John Bull are instrinsically derogatory cartoon
figures, insulting Americans and Britons, respectively.

I've also seen Americans object to 'Brit' as racist. Huh? A macho Brit
soldier calls a macho American soldier a Yank, and the Yank calls the macho
Brit a Brit. The Canadian is a Canuck, the New Zealander a Kiwi, and the
Australian an Aussie. These are the familiar ethnic/national designations
used by us English-speaking nations.

A really perverse situation is where the Polish word for "Pole" is
considered racist. The situation has reached the point where the correct,
grammatical ethnonym of one language is automatically deemed to be a racist
term by another language.

With 'Lapp', I am unaware of any perjorative meaning from my own experience,
but only from reading about the preferences of the Lapps themselves. The few
Sami web pages I've come across tend to be loaded with political content.
The ethno-geographic region at the top of Fennoscandia, covering three
countries, is still Lapland so far as I've heard.

'Bohunk', a rather vague term covering Middle Europeans, but
Bohemian-Moravians particularly, seems perjorative, or at least was in times
past, but in the place I learned the word, in Willa Cather's _My Antonia_,
it was used descriptively, with no seeming derogatory value indicated. My
grandmother used 'Chinaman, in the same sense one uses 'Frenchman, Scotsman,
Englishman' etc, yet the term is considered racist.

Harrumph.

Mark.


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: hmmmm
From:	"M G" <a hre--------post/novaroma?protectID=230212192112185190015225190036129" >--------co@--------</a>
Date:	Mon, 8 May 2000 04:38:06 +0300

----- Original Message -----
From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=173075066165082116036098035140229088239144044009209130152" >Justini--------si--------..</--------;
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: sabato, 06 maggio, 2000 23.38
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: hmmmm

>....................My assertions here are based on the work of physical
> anthropologist Clark Spencer Larsen and other anthropologists who have
> studied the changes in pre- and post-contact Native American skeletal
remains.
> Iustinia Cassia

I thank you very much for your interesting
CONTRIBUTION !

Quoting facts and authors always HELPS
all who are interested to learn in good faith
and to confront themselves with reality.

I hope we are here just for this enrichment

Vale!
Marcus Prometheus


Subject:	Lingua Esperantica, Ido & Interlingua
From:	"M. Apollonius Formosanus" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=014130014161146028033082190" >bvm3@--------</a>
Date:	Mon, 08 May 2000 03:58:10 +0200

Salvete Novoromani!

I was asked for websites for some of the Latin-based planned
international auxiliary languages. Here are three good ones
for Esperanto, Ido and Interlingua respectively:

<a href="http://www.esperanto.net" target="_top" >http://www.esperanto.net</a>

<a href="http://members.aol.com/idolingua/index.html" target="_top" >http://members.aol.com/idolingua/index.html</a>

<a href="http://www.interlingua.com" target="_top" >http://www.interlingua.com</a>

All three sites have English explanations available (and
explanations in other languages); just look around.

The Esperanto site is by far the largest and richest and
contains a free e-correspondence course and links to various
national and international groups. An extensive library of
Esperanto literature is available on line.

Don't miss the sound file at the Interlingua site. It is
very impressive how well one can understand it at first
hearing if one knows Latin, Esperanto or any Romance
language. (But the language is much harder to learn than
Esperanto or Ido if one wants to acquire an active
knowledge.)

Valete!

M. Apollonius Formosanus,
Silesia, Polonia
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[Se vi deziras subigi chion al vi, subigu vin al Racio.]


Subject:	Gladiator: The History
From:	"Jane Raeburn" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=197063113185056135042082190036" >p--------@--------</a>
Date:	Mon, 08 May 2000 03:08:29 -0000

I've created a Web page at <a href="http://www.imperiumarts.com/gladiator.htm" target="_top" >http://www.imperiumarts.com/gladiator.htm</a>
which explores some of the history behind the movie, and describes a
few things the filmmakers got right and wrong. I also include a few
basic Roman history links and a bibliography (linked to the Nova Roma
Bookstore, naturally).

It's intended as a resource for anyone who saw the movie and wants to
know "What's up with that? Did it really happen?" It is my feeling
that
this movie may inspire a few people to get interested in the history
of
Rome, and I wanted to do something to help them pursue that interest.

All opinions are my own, and so are the errors. (Normally I'd say
"any
errors," but any page put together this quickly is almost certain to
have some.)

Those who govern the NR Web site, if you like this page, feel free to
copy it and publish it on the site.

Patricia Cassia


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Test...
From:	<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a>
Date:	Mon, 8 May 2000 03:24:44 -0400 (EDT)

Salve, Cassius;

Test recieved loud and clear!!

Marcus Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


Subject:	Re: Question
From:	"Aq------------------------s Caesar" <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=219223192112158209015168190036129" >c4esar@--------</a>
Date:	Mon, 08 May 2000 07:36:45 -0000

Sounds like a good idea to me Censor :)

Vale
A. Iulius Caesar


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Gladiator
From:	jpp <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045154104003194091033082" >jpp@--------</a>
Date:	Mon, 8 May 2000 02:01:50 -0700 (PDT)

Salvete omnes,

I saw Gladiator (Twice Now) and thought it was an excellent
movie. Even though it had its fictions (A lot of them), it should
certainly inspire more people to do some research to find out the real
story. Personally, I think the real stories are more interesting than
hollywood's anyways.

For the most part, th film's heart is in the right place. Where
it lacks in piddling details it makes up for it by getting the broadest
strokes correct. It's almost a fast-forward version of Commodus' stint as
Emporer, but with not nearly the crazyness of his real self - the man
thought he was hercules reborn, among other wacky antics.

Very pretty film, and the acting was excellent all around. That's
what sold me on the film. despite its problems with historicity and
terrible wriing (as far as dialogue is concerned), the actors turnes a
sow's ear of a script into a silk purse of a movie. It's powerful,
exciting, and lets you be taken away to a different place.

Definitely worth seeing twice.

-Secundus Troicus Ductor
Lanista ;-D

On Sun, 7 May 2000 tacitusmagnus wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> I saw the movie Gladiator today and must admit that it was GREAT! Very
> well laid plot that kept me interested throughout the entire movie.
> Displays some of the best and worst that the Romans had to offer -- well
> balanced!
>
> Tacitus
>
>
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Subject:	digest # 839
From:	w--------am wheeler <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=125075047121158135036082190036" >wuffa@--------</a>
Date:	Mon, 08 May 2000 07:01:07 -0700

Salve Festus
Pontitff Marcus Cornelius Felix does greet you.
RE: the letter you sent quoted below
what is her name?, the Collgium lost it egroups list to a hacker, so we
are set back in work for a bit.
we have had 3 people app for the Priesthood of Isis.
vale

RE Message: 6
Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 17:22:35 EDT
From: <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=226028211237082190172248203043129208071" >Lykaion1@--------</a>
Subject: Isis Priestess?

I'm curious....what is the status of the lady who applied to be
Priestess of
Isis?

I can't remember her name since I deleted my Compuserve filing cabinet.

Gaius Festus


Subject:	Re: Priestess of Isis?
From:	Mariu--------mbria <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a>
Date:	Mon, 08 May 2000 13:18:52 -0500 (CDT)

Salvete, Pontifices:

Querit Festinius Lupus:

>I'm curious....what is the status of the lady who applied to be
>Priestess of Isis?

...et respondet Cornelius Felix Pontifex:

>RE: the letter you sent quoted below
>what is her name?, the Collgium lost it egroups list to a hacker, so
>we are set back in work for a bit.
>we have had 3 people app for the Priesthood of Isis.

Her name is Rosa Lusoria Gemina Mala. She posted her availability to
the NovaRoma List last Thursday; I'll forward her letter to Graecus and
Felix separately.

Just call me Archive...!
***********************************************************
Lucius Marius Fimbria / Legio VI Victrix |>[SPQR]<|

Post scriptum: Are you certain it was a hacker, Felix? --The ONElist
archives in general were down for parts of this weekend; was it that
you couldn't access the CollPont. List archives, or that the List
itself had disappeared?


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: Priestess of Isis?
From:	"Antonio Grilo" <a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=243232178003185091033082" >amg@--------</a>
Date:	Mon, 8 May 2000 19:12:41 +0100

Salve Mari Fimbria

I have her letter. Thanks!

Vale
Antonius Gryllus Graecus

-----Original Message-----
From: Mariu--------mbria <a href="/po--------ovaroma?protectID=034056178009193116148218000036129208" >legion6@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 7:19 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: Priestess of Isis?

>Salvete, Pontifices:
>
>Querit Festinius Lupus:
>
>>I'm curious....what is the status of the lady who applied to be
>>Priestess of Isis?
>
>...et respondet Cornelius Felix Pontifex:
>
>>RE: the letter you sent quoted below
>>what is her name?, the Collgium lost it egroups list to a hacker, so
>>we are set back in work for a bit.
>>we have had 3 people app for the Priesthood of Isis.
>
>Her name is Rosa Lusoria Gemina Mala. She posted her availability to
>the NovaRoma List last Thursday; I'll forward her letter to Graecus and
>Felix separately.
>
>Just call me Archive...!
>***********************************************************
>Lucius Marius Fimbria / Legio VI Victrix |>[SPQR]<|
>
>
>Post scriptum: Are you certain it was a hacker, Felix? --The ONElist
>archives in general were down for parts of this weekend; was it that
>you couldn't access the CollPont. List archives, or that the List
>itself had disappeared?
>
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Subject:	Fwd: Legio
From:	<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a>
Date:	Mon, 8 May 2000 14:21:36 -0400 (EDT)

Salvete, Citizens;

Is there anyone out in NR Land who can give this gentleman any further
information. I thank you for your assistance in advance, and would like
to be included on any replies made.

Valete, Respectfully;
Marcus Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

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Subject:	Re: Fwd: Legio... where's message??
From:	"Sheridan/ Hibernicus" <a href="/--------/novaroma?--------ectID=034056178009193132062218055036129208" >legioix@--------</a>
Date:	Mon, 08 May 2000 20:57:20 -0000

--- In <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>, jmath669642reng@w... wrote:
> Salvete, Citizens;
>
> Is there anyone out in NR Land who can give this gentleman any
further
> information. I thank you for your assistance in advance, and would
like
> to be included on any replies made.
>
> Valete, Respectfully;
> Marcus Audens
>
> Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Fwd: Legio
From:
Date:	Mon, 08 May 2000 16:22:14 -0700

what information needs to be provided??

Sulla Felix

<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> --------e:

> Salvete, Citizens;
>
> Is there anyone out in NR Land who can give this gentleman any further
> information. I thank you for your assistance in advance, and would like
> to be included on any replies made.
>
> Valete, Respectfully;
> Marcus Audens
>
> Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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