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[novaroma] Senate news |
| From: |
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| Date: |
Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:30:24 EDT |
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Salvete Omnes
The Senate is considering an offer from Marcus Octavius Germanicus to
move the Nova Roma Website to a different server and provide new tools
for maintaining the citizen databases. Opinions seem to be pretty
universally favorable.
The Senate is discussing, and seems inclined to ignore, a request from a
group in Baharain to fund a dance group to come to North America and
perform the Epic of Gilgamesh.
Some people are still arguing about issues connected with the "gender
edict," which is now back in the hands of the Censores and appears to be
headed for the dumper, to be replaced by something about "dual
nationality" and the same identity as you have in your nation of
residence.
Vale,
Lucius Sergius Australicus
Tribunus Plebis
sentio aliquos togatos contra me conspirare.
(I think some people in togas are plotting against me.)
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Dies fasti et nefasti |
| From: |
Marcus Papirius Justus <papirius@--------> |
| Date: |
Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:40:10 -0600 |
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Salvete,
As far as I'm aware, in regards to dies nefasti, these were days when the
praetor was specifically forbidden to utter three words: do, dico, and
addico all of which have to do with deciding legal cases. I know of nothing
which would suggest that a praetor could not pronounce the word 'veto' nor
do I think it was forbidden e.g., for the senate to meet and make
decisions. Public assemblies, however, were another matter ...
mpj
At 02:47 PM 6/7/00 -0400, you wrote:
>As regards the historical effects of dies fasti I can only point to my
>superficial knowledge that "fasti" was short for "dies, quibus fas est, lege
>agere". Therefore it seems to me that the fasti had effects mainly for court
>proceedings (=lege agere).
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] ATTN (Religio Romana): ante diem VI Idus Iunii (June 8th) |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" <amg@--------> |
| Date: |
Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:58:58 +0100 |
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Salvete omnes
This is one of the dies nefasti (N), a day on which no legal action or
public business can take place.
Today is the aniversary of the 'dedicatio' of the temple of Mens
(Intelligence) on the Collis Capitolinus. This temple was dedicated in 217
BCE, during the Punic War against Carthage.
I also remind that Iunius is the month of Iuno, month of the young
(iuuenes).
Pax Deorum vobiscum
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Pontifex
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Citizen from Italy |
| From: |
"Marcus Attilius Regulus " <m.morgantini@--------> |
| Date: |
Thu, 08 Jun 2000 10:38:30 -0000 |
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Salve Domitius Costantinus,
benvenuto fra noi ; beato te che non dimostri problemi con la lingua
inlese! Come potrai leggere sul Foro Romano board , ho dato un
meeting di massima per i cittadini di lingua italiana sulla chat line
verso le ore 14.00 dei giorni feriali. Spero di trovarti.
Marcus Attilius salutem dicit.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Dies fasti et nefasti |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:27:03 -0400 (EDT) |
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Salve, M.P. Justus;
Your comments are very illuminating. May we have your references for
these comments, since they seem to be in direct opposition of the
periodic announcements of the Pontiff Graecus. Not being of the
Religio, perhaps I do not understand the exact meaning of your comments,
but if properly referenced, it seems to me that they may lend some
relief to the bindings that the government is under in reference to our
abilty to call the Senate for decisions.
I thank you in advance for your kind attention to this request.
Marcus Audens
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: SPQR |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:45:00 -0400 (EDT) |
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Salve, Valerius Tacitus;
SPQR means:
senatus populusque Romanus (The Senate and the People of Rome).
Ref. Handbook To Life In Ancient Rome, Adkins and Adkins
In requesting information about ancient Rome or Nova Roma, while it is a
privaledge and pleasure to act as a reference guide to such, the rich
information and data base of the Nova Roma Onelist will probably provide
you much quicker replies and a much more detailed set of responses than
the Consuls are able to provide.
Vale, Respectfully;
Marcus Audens
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Dies fasti et nefasti |
| From: |
"M G" <fresco@--------> |
| Date: |
Thu, 8 Jun 2000 02:47:16 +0300 |
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----- Original Message -----
From: <RexMarcius@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Wednesday, 07 June, 2000 9:47 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Dies fasti et nefasti
> Salvete omnes!
> As regards the historical effects of dies fasti I can only point to my
> superficial knowledge that "fasti" was short for "dies, quibus fas est,
lege
> agere". Therefore it seems to me that the fasti had effects mainly for
court
> proceedings (=lege agere).
I agree and I tend to suggest that in the dies nefasti all MEETINGS of
legal ORGANS
like COMITIAE, SENATUS etc etc. do not convene.
BUT this might NOT be extended to mean the forbidding of all activity of
single magistrates.
Our esteemed magistrates must work, not stay idle.
Otherwise Brenno and other barbarians could invade again :-)
Valete
Marcus Prometheus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Remember the POLL |
| From: |
"Razenna " <razenna@--------> |
| Date: |
Thu, 08 Jun 2000 21:18:20 -0000 |
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Go to the Egroups page and vote in the Poll.
Whatever your opinion. The "I don't really care" votes are lagging
sadly behind! =({[;-)
Ericius.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Dies fasti et nefasti |
| From: |
Marcus Papirius Justus <papirius@--------> |
| Date: |
Thu, 08 Jun 2000 17:22:15 -0600 |
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Salve,
The quickie reference (since I don't have quick access to the law libraries
that I used to) would be to Berger's Encyclopedic Dictionary of Roman Law
s.v. dies fasti. Cf. s.v. dies nefasti and s. vv. do dico addico (where
there is also a reference to Noaille's *Du droit sacre au droit civile*
which is worth the read (I'm sure I've got a xerox of this somewhere) ...
More accessible, however, is the intro to Scullard's *Festivals and
Ceremonies* p. 44 where one can read directly the connection between dies
fasti and nefasti and the functioning of the praetor's court and comitia
(and nothing else).
mpj
At 11:27 AM 6/8/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Salve, M.P. Justus;
>
>Your comments are very illuminating. May we have your references for
>these comments, since they seem to be in direct opposition of the
>periodic announcements of the Pontiff Graecus. Not being of the
>Religio, perhaps I do not understand the exact meaning of your comments,
>but if properly referenced, it seems to me that they may lend some
>relief to the bindings that the government is under in reference to our
>abilty to call the Senate for decisions.
>
>I thank you in advance for your kind attention to this request.
>
>Marcus Audens
>
>Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
>
>
>http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
>
>
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Re: Dies fasti et nefasti |
| From: |
"Razenna " <razenna@--------> |
| Date: |
Thu, 08 Jun 2000 21:27:53 -0000 |
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Just an attempt at listing the possibilities that have been
mentioned.
with nor pretense at being complete.
The breakdown is...[?]
1. No gov't business may be conducted.
2. No legal business may be conducted.
3. No business by gov'tal bodies may be conducted.
4. The Senate, various comitiae, Collegium Pontificum and whatever
other bodies it might apply to may Not be Convened (called into
session) or vote, but they may continue to discuss business already
before them if they are already activated. [if they are already in
session, may an new item or the amendment of a current item, be
presented and discussed?]
5. ... and however many other numbers that might be added on here for
other permutations.
Anybody who can think of others aspects and interpretations is
requested to add them. And they have my thanks.
Valete.
C. Aelius Ericius
Pontifex. Augur. Senator.
--- In novaroma@--------, "M G" <fresco@f...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <RexM--------us@-------->
> To: <novaroma@-------->
> Sent: Wednesday, 07 June, 2000 9:47 PM
> Subject: [novaroma] Dies fasti et nefasti
>
>
> > Salvete omnes!
>
>
>
> > As regards the historical effects of dies fasti I can only point
to my
> > superficial knowledge that "fasti" was short for "dies, quibus
fas
est,
> lege
> > agere". Therefore it seems to me that the fasti had effects
mainly
for
> court
> > proceedings (=lege agere).
>
>
>
>
> I agree and I tend to suggest that in the dies nefasti all
MEETINGS of
> legal ORGANS
> like COMITIAE, SENATUS etc etc. do not convene.
> BUT this might NOT be extended to mean the forbidding of all
activity of
> single magistrates.
> Our esteemed magistrates must work, not stay idle.
> Otherwise Brenno and other barbarians could invade again :-)
> Valete
> Marcus Prometheus
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Fw: Isis Goddess Temple and Statues Found 1 |
| From: |
Jennifer E Hunt <riturtle@--------> |
| Date: |
Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:44:51 -0400 |
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To: ADF-DISCUSS@--------
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:20:49 -0400
Subject: Isis Goddess Temple and Statues Found 1
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The recent underwater finds of three legendary cities and the
temple of Isis and Isis statuary, near Alexandria, Eghypt, was
covered by many news sources.
Excerpts from several of the articles are included.
The entire articles should be read for accuracy and completeness.
Thank you to Cecylyna for assistance and research.
Goddess Isis:
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Loch Sloy!
Tuan Today
"Tuan MacCarrill/MacParthalon, forever the Celtic story."
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Halifax Herald
Alexandria, Egypt - Two cities where ancient religions collided
with Christianity and that were lost to the sea 1,200 years ago
re-emerged over the weekend after their discovery was
announced by Franck Goddio, a French underwater explorer.
Until now they had been known only through Greek mythology,
local legends and a handful of early histories.
The discovery of what are believed to be the cities of
Herakleion and Canopus and its suburb Menouthis, off the
Egyptian coast close to Alexandria, was hailed by
archaeologists as among the most important finds of the past
two decades in the relatively new field of sub-aqua
exploration of ancient sites.
Christians determined to stamp out Pagan beliefs in the area
during the sixth century AD smashed the naos and scattered its
pieces.
One part, a pyramid block discovered by Sonnini de
Manoncourt in 1777 on land at Abukir, is in the Louvre in Paris.
Mr. Goddio's find adds to earlier discoveries of fragments of
the naos, giving an almost complete picture of the complex
hieroglyphics which sorted and arranged the 36 "decades,"
10-day periods defined by the appearance and disappearance of
stars called the "decans," which in turn were used to count the
night hours.
Inscriptions on the black slabs define the influence that each
decade has on animal behaviour and human communities; they are
still used by astrologers.
"They are the most ancient known documents bearing witness
to the origins of classical astrology," Mr. Yoyotte said.
On Saturday, Mr. Goddio brought a fourth-century BC headless
statue of the goddess Isis to the surface.
The work, described by professor Manfred Clauss, an expert on
the period, as a masterpiece, was so finely worked and sensual that
it drew spontaneous applause from those who saw it.
Copyright © 2000 The Halifax Herald Limited
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ABC
This is the first time that historians have found physical
evidence of the existence of the lost cities, which were
famous not only for their riches and arts, but also for numerous
temples dedicated to the gods Isis, Serapis and Osiris, making
the region an important pilgrimage destination for various cults.
Copyright ©2000 ABC News Internet Ventures.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/cities000603.html
BBC
At a news conference in Alexandria, the French marine
archaeologist, Franck Goddio, revealed the first evidence of
what is believed to be the ancient city of Herakleion.
His divers have located a lost world of temples, houses and
colossal statues.
Here, people worshipped the Pharaonic cult of Isis well into
the first millennium.
Copyright © 2000 BBC
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ARABIC NEWS
"The mission also discovered Herculum, the ancient Greek
town where the Greek god Hercules was adored," said Godeo.
The mission bumped into huge buildings and statues depicting
kings in their regal Pharaonic attires.
Some of these statues are about 4 meters-high.
They found part of the room dedicated to preserve the gods'
statues in Isis Temple in a good condition, thus completing the
whole room of which parts were previously uncovered.
Archaeologists also bumped into hundreds of granite columns,
gods' heads and sphinxes.
The mission completed the discovery previously made by Prince
Omar Tosson in 1934 when he revealed the ancient city of Mintos
that together with Herculum constitutes Abu Qir now.
The mission removed a one meter-thick layer of sands to reach
remains of the ancient city.
The most important excavations were two stones inscribed with
Hieroglyphic writings dating back to the Pharaonic 26th and 30th
dynasties.
They are part of the statues' rooms of Isis Temple.
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