| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Denuntiatio Adoptionis | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:58:07 +0100 | 
 
 | 
Quiritibus salutem 
 
Aletheia Moravia and I are delighted to announce that the applicant citizen formerly known as Gnaeus Hernicius Piscinus has honoured the gens Moravia by requesting adoptio, and that gens Moravia has fairly fallen over itself in haste to accept him before he thought better of it. Whoever it was said that parents are educated by their children never, in this case, spoke a truer word. 
 
Let it be known therefore that the aforementioned Cn. Moravius Piscinus is our sole son and heir within the laws of the Respublica of Nova Roma. 
 
We thank the gods heartily for this most welcome addition to our little family, who in Humanitas augments us in a ratio far greater than the mathematical increase his adoptio represents. 
 
Bene valete 
 
Nicolaus Moravius Vado 
Aletheia Moravia. 
 
 
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	 Re: [novaroma] For those that are intrested.... | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:27:56 +0100 | 
 
 | 
Salve mea Draconia 
 
A few of us have inflicted poetry on this list in the past, and for the most 
part been politely ignored. 
I think a poetry list would be nice, tho' I should imagine it would be 
fairly small and quiet. About a year ago (I think it was) a few cives 
started a Latin literature list, but since they intended to begin with De 
Bello Gallico I gave it a miss to start with, but never followed up 
afterward. I don't know if it's still in existence. If it is, perhaps 
classical poetry will have a home there, ready-made. Me, I'm all for 
anything to increase Humanitas, and I am very fond of the Greek and Latin 
poetry I know. I would enjoy reading some more without having to go to the 
bibliotheca and stretch my borrowing limit impossibly. But I confess I'm not 
so fond of the modern derivative, neo-classical stuff, though I find Graves, 
Powell, Logue, Walcott and Vado outstanding exceptions...:-) 
 
BTW, have you seen the new translation of Sulpicia's verses? 
 
Bene vale, 
 
Vado. 
 
 
> For a while now I've been having this idea, and never really got 
> around to doing it. I was wondering for any that intrested, if anyone 
> would like to join a classical poetry list. I myself would be the 
> lists moderator. But before I did anything, I wanted to make sure I 
> had people to join. It just wouldn't be classical poetry, any kind 
> actually. I believe roman creativity should not be ignored ( and I 
> also don't mind if it's in latin). Well I guess that's all I had to 
> say for now. I'm done rambling for the moment, thak you for listening. 
> 
> 
> 
> Valete, 
> Aeternia Draconia 
> 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Denuntiatio Adoptionis | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Razenna <razenna@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:39:34 -0700 | 
 
 | 
Congratulations. Moraviae.  You have a good new family member there. 
Welcome, Cn. Moravius Piscinus.  Bona Fortuna. 
 
C. Aelius Ericius. 
Paterfamilias gens Aelia.  Augur. Pontifex. Senator of Nova Roma. 
 
 
 
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	 [novaroma] Re: For those that are intrested.... | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Jennifer harris" <fionaerin@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 01:07:37 -0000 | 
 
 | 
-Salve Dear Vado, 
 
I haven't had the chance to read the new translations of Sulpicia's  
verses. But I must do that in the future hopefully. So there is a  
Latin literature list around here somewhere? Could it be possible if  
"yours truly" took over the moderator spot of it? I'm sure I could  
get it running again (or at least I think I can.)Also a big thank you  
for responding to my post, I didn't think anyone would. Wow!! Thanks. 
 
 
Vale 
Aeternia Draconia 
 
 
 
-- In novaroma@--------, "Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@d...> wrote: 
> Salve mea Draconia 
>  
> A few of us have inflicted poetry on this list in the past, and for  
the most 
> part been politely ignored. 
> I think a poetry list would be nice, tho' I should imagine it would  
be 
> fairly small and quiet. About a year ago (I think it was) a few  
cives 
> started a Latin literature list, but since they intended to begin  
with De 
> Bello Gallico I gave it a miss to start with, but never followed up 
> afterward. I don't know if it's still in existence. If it is,  
perhaps 
> classical poetry will have a home there, ready-made. Me, I'm all for 
> anything to increase Humanitas, and I am very fond of the Greek and  
Latin 
> poetry I know. I would enjoy reading some more without having to go  
to the 
> bibliotheca and stretch my borrowing limit impossibly. But I  
confess I'm not 
> so fond of the modern derivative, neo-classical stuff, though I  
find Graves, 
> Powell, Logue, Walcott and Vado outstanding exceptions...:-) 
>  
> BTW, have you seen the new translation of Sulpicia's verses? 
>  
> Bene vale, 
>  
> Vado. 
>  
>  
> > For a while now I've been having this idea, and never really got 
> > around to doing it. I was wondering for any that intrested, if  
anyone 
> > would like to join a classical poetry list. I myself would be the 
> > lists moderator. But before I did anything, I wanted to make sure  
I 
> > had people to join. It just wouldn't be classical poetry, any kind 
> > actually. I believe roman creativity should not be ignored ( and I 
> > also don't mind if it's in latin). Well I guess that's all I had  
to 
> > say for now. I'm done rambling for the moment, thak you for  
listening. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Valete, 
> > Aeternia Draconia 
> > 
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	 Re: [novaroma] For those that are intrested.... | 
 
	| From: | 
	 StarWreck@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 11 Jun 2000 21:09:57 EDT | 
 
 | 
Salvete Vado et Aeternia Draconia, 
 
I actually hadn't planned on mentioning this... this not having anything to  
do with Nova Roma or Ancient Rome.   A number of poems which I have written  
are being published by the International Library of Poetry in a book called  
"Time after Time" its Library of Congress ID is ISBN-1-5-58235-142-2 ...its a  
very big book of poetry.  I doubt that anyone plans to buy it, but if anyone  
does drop me a line. 
 
Vale 
 
Iulius Titinius 
 
<< A few of us have inflicted poetry on this list in the past, and for the  
most 
 part been politely ignored. 
 I think a poetry list would be nice, tho' I should imagine it would be 
 fairly small and quiet. About a year ago (I think it was) a few cives 
 started a Latin literature list, but since they intended to begin with De 
 Bello Gallico I gave it a miss to start with, but never followed up 
 afterward. I don't know if it's still in existence. If it is, perhaps 
 classical poetry will have a home there, ready-made. Me, I'm all for 
 anything to increase Humanitas, and I am very fond of the Greek and Latin 
 poetry I know. I would enjoy reading some more without having to go to the 
 bibliotheca and stretch my borrowing limit impossibly. But I confess I'm not 
 so fond of the modern derivative, neo-classical stuff, though I find Graves, 
 Powell, Logue, Walcott and Vado outstanding exceptions...:-) 
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	 Re: [novaroma] For those that are intrested.... | 
 
	| From: | 
	 StarWreck@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Sun, 11 Jun 2000 21:18:07 EDT | 
 
 | 
In a message dated 6/11/00 9:12:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
StarWreck@-------- writes: 
 
<< Library of Congress ID is ISBN-1-5-58235-142-2 >> 
Excuse me, its ISBN-1-58235-142-3... darn typos 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Additional notes from the Senate floor | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Antonio Grilo" <amg@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:50:55 +0100 | 
 
 | 
Salvete 
 
>The 1st Ammendment in the Bill of Rights to the Constitution of the United 
>States of America (simmilar to what most nations have) was created with the 
>intent to give citizens the right to critize their government (despite the 
>fact that some rednecks use it to justify being racist weirdo's).  If they 
>actually start acting on this, most likely the United States, NATO, and 
even 
>the United Nations will most likely consider it a violation of Human Rights 
>and move in, and do something about it.  I hope your situation clears up 
soon. 
Do I have to repeat what many have said before? 
 
We are not the USA, we have our proper Constitution, and the 1st Ammendment 
in the Bill of Rights does not make part of it. We do not belong to NATO. We 
do not belong to the United Nations. 
 
We are not a democracy, for democracy (though with all its limitation) was 
the Government of Greek cities such as Athens, not Rome. But we do base our 
system on the free choice of the people and an wide freedom of speech, 
limited only by the due respect to the Gods and to our institutions. We do 
respect human rights and do not follow ancient practices that violate human 
right. 
 
So, please, stop reminding our magistrates about the 1st Ammendment in the 
Bill of Rights to the Constitution of the United States of America. As a 
metter of fact, I have never reminded you about the Constitution of 
Portugal, my country, whose Constitution - derived from the left-wing 
movements of 1970s - I find to be one of the most Democratic Constitutions 
in the World. 
 
Valete 
Antonius Gryllus Graecus 
 
 
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	 Re: [novaroma] Additional notes from the Senate floor | 
 
	| From: | 
	 StarWreck@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:37:18 EDT | 
 
 | 
You mis-understand me Gryllus, I was not talking about Nova Roma in any way.   
I was referring to the Real World Events that are currently taking place in  
Austria.   
 
In a message dated 6/12/00 5:51:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
amg@-------- writes: 
 
<< We are not a democracy, for democracy (though with all its limitation) was 
 the Government of Greek cities such as Athens, not Rome. But we do base our 
 system on the free choice of the people and an wide freedom of speech, 
 limited only by the due respect to the Gods and to our institutions. We do 
 respect human rights and do not follow ancient practices that violate human 
 right. 
  
 So, please, stop reminding our magistrates about the 1st Ammendment in the 
 Bill of Rights to the Constitution of the United States of America. As a 
 metter of fact, I have never reminded you about the Constitution of 
 Portugal, my country, whose Constitution - derived from the left-wing 
 movements of 1970s - I find to be one of the most Democratic Constitutions 
 in the World. 
  >> 
 
 
 
 
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	 Re: [novaroma] Additional notes from the Senate floor | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Antonio Grilo" <amg@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:48:18 +0100 | 
 
 | 
Salve 
 
Sorry =) 
 
Antonius Gryllus Graecus 
 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: StarWreck@-------- <StarWreck@--------> 
To: novaroma@-------- <novaroma@--------> 
Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 2:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [novaroma] Additional notes from the Senate floor 
 
 
>You mis-understand me Gryllus, I was not talking about Nova Roma in any 
way. 
>I was referring to the Real World Events that are currently taking place in 
>Austria. 
> 
>In a message dated 6/12/00 5:51:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
>amg@-------- writes: 
> 
><< We are not a democracy, for democracy (though with all its limitation) 
was 
> the Government of Greek cities such as Athens, not Rome. But we do base 
our 
> system on the free choice of the people and an wide freedom of speech, 
> limited only by the due respect to the Gods and to our institutions. We do 
> respect human rights and do not follow ancient practices that violate 
human 
> right. 
> 
> So, please, stop reminding our magistrates about the 1st Ammendment in the 
> Bill of Rights to the Constitution of the United States of America. As a 
> metter of fact, I have never reminded you about the Constitution of 
> Portugal, my country, whose Constitution - derived from the left-wing 
> movements of 1970s - I find to be one of the most Democratic Constitutions 
> in the World. 
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	 [novaroma] Roman Days | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Lucius" <vergil@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:32:28 -0400 | 
 
 | 
Avete, 
 
     I returned home last night from Roman Days and I would not expect those that had traveled to be home before this evening. It was in many ways the best yet, but in some ways disappointing. This year we had many more displays and activities. Everyone set up on the 'hill' under the trees this year, and while it was hot, the shade and intermittent breezes helped somewhat (though a proper Roman bath would have been the real ticket!). 
 
Novae Romanae present at various times 
Merlinia Ambrosia  
Marcus Cassius 
Patricia Cassia 
Pompeia Cornelia  
Lucius Equitius  
Quintus Equitius  
Secunda Iunia (uxor Quinti Equiti)  
Marcus Equitius 
Lolitia Peraltia (uxor Marci Equiti)  
Gallio Vellius  
 
    Each day the Legions preformed demonstrations in the morning for opening then just after lunch and in the afternoon before 'closing'.  
The legions  
Legio XX http://www.larp.com/legioxx/index.html  
Legio III Gallica HTTP://members.aol.com/legiiigal/  
Legio XXIV http://www.legionXXIV.org  
After we drilled Quintus took 'volunteers' to the shade of a large tree and taught the kids some tactics and drill. Also, near the educational displays the kids could throw bean bags at a large cut out of a "Celt" and get a 'diploma' for "Bean the Barbarian"! 
 
 At ~ 2:00 there was a fashion show done as a 'timeline' of Roman dress from early republican to imperial. Patricia Cassia displayed her wedding dress and I was in Senatorial tunic and Toga.  
 
   For breakfast, lunch and dinner, Merlinia Ambrosia Artori merlinia@-------- provided a variety of cooked and uncooked Roman food. Saturday night we fashioned a triclinium and had a wonderful feast with a variety of wines! Merlinia found a "Falerno del Massico" [Villa Matilde] and I brought "Siniscalco" [gioia del colle primitivo] both of which are as close to "falarian" as we could find. The men reclined at the traditional three tables and the ladies sat at a table in chairs. During the meal we were entertained at various interludes by singing by Merlinia herself, Patricia Cassia, Quintus Darius sang the "Roman Legionar' " and Taratalla the 'slave' of  Hortensia Tertia (uxor Qiunti Dari), who sang an 'ode' from Horace. All the songs were done very well, but the ode was especially moving. The food was outstanding and everyone retired well satisfied. 
 
   Pompeia Cornelia Strabo flew down from Canada and kept herself busy helping Merlinia, taking pictures until she ran out of film :-) and visiting with everyone! (Great to finally meet a Corneli in person!) Maybe we can get some of these pictures posted on the website? 
 
   Secunda Iunia displayed a variety of 'Rune' stones from different cultures. 
 
   Hortensia Tertia displayed her herbs as Roman herbalist. 
 
   Marcus Cassius kept himself busy selling his antiquities from Imperium Ancient Arts ; Flags ; Tshirts and Roman costume available at: www.imperiumarts.com/costume.html of which my Gens filius Quintus Equitius bought a Tunic and Toga, I got a flag, some bumperstickers and a set of laminated cards with the public and personal Roman Virtues . 
 
The disappointment was the small public turnout due, I think, to the fact that the Washington Post neglected to 'post' the event in it's "weekend" section and the hot weather (it had been in the 70/80's and very pleasant until Sat and Sunday which was in the 90's and humid [usual summer weather here]). 
 
One unusual event occurred Saturday afternoon after the event closed for the day and before we had our 'feast'. All us Romani were waiting for the food and putting things away for the night when we all heard a 'THUMP". 
Some of us thought that a branch had fallen out of a tree but when we went over to look it had been two large 'black' snakes. We all watched them as they both immediately returned to the tree (awesome to watch snakes climb straight UP a large oak tree)! They began again but fell out of the tree again; however, this time they finished their business and went back to the woods. The next day one of the snakes came back and traveled  through Legio XX's leather tent on it's way to the other side of the park! Marcus Cassius and I feel this was a propitious omen, snakes symbolizing fecundity. 
 
Valete, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus 
Senator, Pontifex, Augur 
 
 
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	 RE: [novaroma] Roman Days | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Mary Beth Clemons <mclemons@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:46:27 -0400 | 
 
 | 
Salvete, Omnes! 
  
Well, due to circumstances beyond my control, I could not take my vacation 
to Norway.  Hand I known that a couple of days in advance, I would have come 
up to Roman Days.  I had a great time last year.  I am was upset about 
canceled vacation, but I am *really* upset now that I realized I missed out 
on Roman Days!  Now I have to wait for next year!  :o(  I am glad to hear 
that everyone had a good time.  (Probably because I wasn't there, right 
Cassii?)  As if I wasn't bummed enough.... 
  
Oh, well...VITA EST! 
  
Valete, 
  
Minervina Iucundia Flavia 
Propraetor SE USA Provincia 
Senator 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Lucius [mailto:vergil@--------] 
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 11:32 AM 
To: Nova Roma 
Subject: [novaroma] Roman Days 
 
 
Avete, 
 
     I returned home last night from Roman Days and I would not expect those 
that had traveled to be home before this evening. It was in many ways the 
best yet, but in some ways disappointing. This year we had many more 
displays and activities. Everyone set up on the 'hill' under the trees this 
year, and while it was hot, the shade and intermittent breezes helped 
somewhat (though a proper Roman bath would have been the real ticket!). 
 
Novae Romanae present at various times 
Merlinia Ambrosia  
Marcus Cassius 
Patricia Cassia 
Pompeia Cornelia  
Lucius Equitius  
Quintus Equitius  
Secunda Iunia (uxor Quinti Equiti)  
Marcus Equitius 
Lolitia Peraltia (uxor Marci Equiti)  
Gallio Vellius  
 
    Each day the Legions preformed demonstrations in the morning for opening 
then just after lunch and in the afternoon before 'closing'.  
The legions  
Legio XX http://www.larp.com/legioxx/index.html 
<http://www.larp.com/legioxx/index.html>   
Legio III Gallica HTTP://members.aol.com/legiiigal/ 
<HTTP://members.aol.com/legiiigal/>   
Legio XXIV http://www.legionXXIV.org <http://www.legionXXIV.org>   
After we drilled Quintus took 'volunteers' to the shade of a large tree and 
taught the kids some tactics and drill. Also, near the educational displays 
the kids could throw bean bags at a large cut out of a "Celt" and get a 
'diploma' for "Bean the Barbarian"! 
 
At ~ 2:00 there was a fashion show done as a 'timeline' of Roman dress from 
early republican to imperial. Patricia Cassia displayed her wedding dress 
and I was in Senatorial tunic and Toga.  
 
   For breakfast, lunch and dinner, Merlinia Ambrosia Artori 
merlinia@-------- provided a variety of cooked and uncooked Roman food. 
Saturday night we fashioned a triclinium and had a wonderful feast with a 
variety of wines! Merlinia found a "Falerno del Massico" [Villa Matilde] and 
I brought "Siniscalco" [gioia del colle primitivo] both of which are as 
close to "falarian" as we could find. The men reclined at the traditional 
three tables and the ladies sat at a table in chairs. During the meal we 
were entertained at various interludes by singing by Merlinia herself, 
Patricia Cassia, Quintus Darius sang the "Roman Legionar' " and Taratalla 
the 'slave' of  Hortensia Tertia (uxor Qiunti Dari), who sang an 'ode' from 
Horace. All the songs were done very well, but the ode was especially 
moving. The food was outstanding and everyone retired well satisfied. 
 
   Pompeia Cornelia Strabo flew down from Canada and kept herself busy 
helping Merlinia, taking pictures until she ran out of film :-) and visiting 
with everyone! (Great to finally meet a Corneli in person!) Maybe we can get 
some of these pictures posted on the website? 
 
   Secunda Iunia displayed a variety of 'Rune' stones from different 
cultures. 
 
   Hortensia Tertia displayed her herbs as Roman herbalist. 
 
   Marcus Cassius kept himself busy selling his antiquities from Imperium 
Ancient Arts ; Flags ; Tshirts and Roman costume available at: 
www.imperiumarts.com/costume.html of which my Gens filius Quintus Equitius 
bought a Tunic and Toga, I got a flag, some bumperstickers and a set of 
laminated cards with the public and personal Roman Virtues . 
 
The disappointment was the small public turnout due, I think, to the fact 
that the Washington Post neglected to 'post' the event in it's "weekend" 
section and the hot weather (it had been in the 70/80's and very pleasant 
until Sat and Sunday which was in the 90's and humid [usual summer weather 
here]). 
 
One unusual event occurred Saturday afternoon after the event closed for the 
day and before we had our 'feast'. All us Romani were waiting for the food 
and putting things away for the night when we all heard a 'THUMP". 
Some of us thought that a branch had fallen out of a tree but when we went 
over to look it had been two large 'black' snakes. We all watched them as 
they both immediately returned to the tree (awesome to watch snakes climb 
straight UP a large oak tree)! They began again but fell out of the tree 
again; however, this time they finished their business and went back to the 
woods. The next day one of the snakes came back and traveled  through Legio 
XX's leather tent on it's way to the other side of the park! Marcus Cassius 
and I feel this was a propitious omen, snakes symbolizing fecundity. 
 
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Senator, Pontifex, Augur 
 
 
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	 Re: [novaroma] Roman Days | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Radar <correus@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:44:14 -0700 (PDT) | 
 
 | 
Salve! 
 
Sounds like everyone had a great time! 
 
>    For breakfast, lunch and dinner, Merlinia 
> Ambrosia Artori merlinia@-------- provided a 
> variety of cooked and uncooked Roman food.>> 
 
I would love to hear from Merlinia Ambrosia 
Artori and discuss the art of Roman Cuisine. 
 
>    Hortensia Tertia displayed her herbs as 
> Roman herbalist.>> 
 
Hortensia Tertia! Please contact me - I need to 
speak to a good Roman herbalist. 
 
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	 Re: [novaroma] Roman Days | 
 
	| From: | 
	 jmath669642reng@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:58:16 -0400 (EDT) | 
 
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Salve, Senator Cincinnatus; 
 
Thank you for the description of Roman Days this year.  The weather 
treated our local reenactment event somewhat similarly this year in New 
England as well.  Very warm (100 degrees F) on Saturday and Sunday with 
a thunderstorm and drenching downpour Sunday P.M. and evening. 
 
I was very sorry that I could not join you, but my "travel agent" 
pronounced "intercessio" on the idea very firmly.  We are however, 
planning for next year!!!!  
 
I am very gratified to hear about the wines that you found.  I shall 
order them immedately from our local vintner.  I hope to share the event 
through P. Cornelia Strabo's photographs and her detailed descriptions 
which I am counting on.  Glad to hear that you enjoyed the gathering, 
and were able to engage in some face-to-face!!!! 
 
All the Best from: 
 
Marcus Audens 
 
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!! 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Additional notes from the Senate floor | 
 
	| From: | 
	 jmath669642reng@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:56:57 -0400 (EDT) | 
 
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Salve. Praetor Marcus Marcius Rex; 
 
Sir, there are no existing or comtemplated "sanctions" against the 
Tribune Plebis L. Sergio Australicus.  There has been a disagreement 
within the Senate, between a Senator and the above Tribune.  The Senator 
has applied for a Senatus Consultum to be placed on the Senate Agenda at 
the next Senate Call to decide whether the Tribune's words shall be 
determined as demeaning to the Senator's position. 
 
That Consultum application is before the Consul's for review.  The 
Tribune is currently carrying out his duties in accordance with his Oath 
of Office and nothing is being denied him. 
 
I can well understand the concern that the Citizen's may have for the 
status and position o the Tribune Plebis.  However, I do not think that 
all NR Citizens understand the concern that the Consuls have for that 
same Magistrate's status and position.  There are some on the list who 
from lack of precise information, past disappointment, or simply the 
desire to have something to say, have implied that your elected 
Magistates are somehow planning against you if every item is not 
transmitted immediately to your ears.  This is, simply not the way 
things work.  Let me enlighten those of you whose ideas about how the 
Senate operates is somewhat cloudy: 
 
---Topic Item is introduced in Senate; 
 
---Discussion ensues; 
 
---Disagreement follows (perhaps on occasion); 
 
---Calming influences put forth (as required); 
 
---Results Determined; 
 
---Decisions made as necessary; 
 
--Applications made for Senate Consulta (as necessary); 
 
---Senate is informed as a whole; 
 
---Tribunes inform the NR Citizenship (when a breakdown in the Tribune 
activity occurs another Magistrate (usually) the Consuls fill in until 
the Tribunes are back in service). 
 
Now, between any of the above steps one day to 2 weeks can elapse.  In 
my humble estimation, it would be uneccessary and burdensome to inform 
the NR citizenship of the everyday activities of the Senate, and the 
hour to hour discussions.  I have always thought that was what the 
Magistrates were there to do as representatives of the people of NR!!! 
 
If anyone needs further information, I see no problem in asking fot it, 
however, I do not believe it is absolutely necessary to allude to the 
possibility of the Magistrates being in secret meetings trying to 
undermine the micronation through a financial take-over, through 
injurious neglect or other such mischief.  Such allusions, sarcasm, 
insults and just plain inability to be reaonably polite, on this network 
is neither required nor is it terribly productive.  
 
Mistakes, Commitment Problems, Family, Illness, Work Concerns all play a 
part in the above pattern of things, and any of those of the NR 
citizenship who are free from those above listed afflictions should 
immediately and without further delay apply to run for Polical Office or 
becaome deeply involved in the Religio as a worker bee!!!!!!!!!!!! 
 
Vale, Respectfully; 
Marcus Audens 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Ad Quiritis | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Piscinus@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:10:17 -0000 | 
 
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Gnaius Moravius Piscinus salutem: Hodie quae mihi lubet confiteri  
Quirites: provero antea miles gregarius duxit, sed haec est nunc vita  
mea: exsuscito et dii invoco, deinde propinquus piscina mea aut  
scribo aut lego, post haec ob solis occasus guadeo. Hodie aio gens  
Moravium veniam pius filius laetus libens. Nobiscum populam Nova  
Romanorum aio: hodie civis sim! 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Re: Roman Days - Herbs and Cooking | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Lucius Equitius" <vergil@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:54:57 -0000 | 
 
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--- In novaroma@--------, Radar <correus@y...> wrote: 
> Salve! 
>  
> Sounds like everyone had a great time! 
>  
> >    For breakfast, lunch and dinner, Merlinia 
> > Ambrosia Artori merlinia@-------- provided a 
> > variety of cooked and uncooked Roman food.>> 
>  
> I would love to hear from Merlinia Ambrosia 
> Artori and discuss the art of Roman Cuisine. 
>  
> >    Hortensia Tertia displayed her herbs as 
> > Roman herbalist.>> 
>  
> Hortensia Tertia! Please contact me - I need to 
> speak to a good Roman herbalist. 
>  
> Correus Appius Iulianus 
 
Salvete omnes et Ave Correus Appius 
 
     Hortensia Tertia is not a citizen nor a subscriber to this list.  
She is knowledgeable and can be helpful. Try this address first:  
mamt@--------  
which will get you in touch with Quintus Darius, her husband. 
 
Merlinia Ambrosia will not get to her mail until she returns. You may  
have to put out a "call" to her in a day or two. In the meantime Nova  
Roma does have a  Sodalitas Pro Coqueror et Coquus;  
http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/cooking.html 
 
Bonam Fortunam 
Valete, Lucius Equitius 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Roman Days | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Radar <correus@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:41:54 -0700 (PDT) | 
 
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Salve! 
 
 
> Merlinia found a "Falerno del Massico" [Villa 
> Matilde] and I brought "Siniscalco" [gioia del 
> colle primitivo] both of which are as close to 
> "falarian" as we could find. >> 
 
When I approach my wine merchant to order these, 
and he looks at me as though I am from the moon, 
what should I tell him?  Are these the names they 
would be known by at the wine merchants? 
 
Vale! 
 
Correus Appius Julianus 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Re: Roman Days - Herbs and Cooking | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Radar <correus@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:44:50 -0700 (PDT) | 
 
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Lucius Equitius - Salve! 
 
Thank you for the information.  I shall try to 
contact them through other means! 
 
Correus Appius Iulianus 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Additional notes from the Senate floor | 
 
	| From: | 
	 RexMarcius@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:50:37 EDT | 
 
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Salve Consul! 
 
If it is as you say - and I have now no reason to believe otherwise as your  
dignitas in Nova Roma is certainly one of the highest I can think of - my  
concerns are no longer valid.  
 
They had been voiced, as I had stated, in the absence of any clear  
information about the whole matter. The Tribune himself has so far not  
answered my private mail. 
 
Gratias ago 
 
Marcus Marcius Rex 
 
Civis et Propraetor 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Additional notes from the Senate floor | 
 
	| From: | 
	 jmath669642reng@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:27:43 -0400 (EDT) | 
 
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Salve, Marcus Marcius Rex; 
 
I thank you for your very kind words.  I have a great appreciation for 
them.  The situation of which we spoke, has again changed in the short 
time since I last messaged you, for the better I hope, and I suppose it 
will continue to change as we move through the various stages of a 
personal argument.  The argument, however, is not the focus of my 
attention, but rather as you brought forward, the Tribunus Plebis is a 
very important part of our government.  That Magistrate must be trusted 
closely to be a excellent reporter, to maintain that which must be 
maintained in confideniality, and that which must be shared with the 
citizenship. 
 
He must be careful in his reporting techniques not to involve too deeply 
his personal biases in these reports, but after-all must be allowed some 
small degree of latitude as he  / she is as human as the rest of us. 
The Tribune must be perceptive, honest, forthrite, and interested in the 
task of the Tribune, which is to provide enlightenment to the citizens 
of NR in an informative and unbiased way.  The Tribune must maintain a 
certain set of standards, and hew to those standards regardless of what 
political winds may blow. 
 
Lastly the Tribune must be firm in the face of adversity, and be able to 
separate his / her personal feelings from the duties which he has 
accepted.  No-one will ever completely agree with the tribune on the 
boundaries that he is forced to place upon his task, and therefore the 
Tribune can expect to be at odds with at least someone with every report 
made. 
 
Considering all of the above, any Magistate of NR would be seriously 
remiss not to be concerned with the duties of the Tribune Plebis, awake 
to his needs, strengths and weaknesses, and be alert to assist him as 
possible in case of an emergency. 
 
My friend, Marcus Rex, these last few paragraphs above were not 
necessarily directed at the personal you, but rather the collectve you 
of the NR citizens.  Your message provided me with the opportunity to 
publish a message in my turn, which in my opinion was necessary and 
overdue.  I thank you sincerely for that opportunity and for your 
patience. 
 
Vale, Sincerely; 
Marcus Audens 
 
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!! 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Index Poetica | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Bradius V. Maurus III" <bvm3@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:58:37 +0200 | 
 
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Salvete Aeternia Draconia et Omnes! 
 
A Poetry list is a splendid idea! And if you "don't mind 
Latin", maybe you could somehow do it in collaboration with 
the Sodalitas Latinitatis, which hopefully will be approved 
by the Senatus in the very near future. It too has an 
interest in Latin poetry, both appreciating and creating. 
(Write me in that regard.) 
 
I might also mention that my two new minor filii in the Gens 
Apollonia, Quintus Apollonius Flaccus (guess which Roman 
poet inspires him?!) and  Sextus Apollonius Draco are avid 
students of Latin and Greek poetry and copious creators in 
their own right. My filia Turia Apollonia Sulpicia Minucia 
also engages in literary activities. We are, as you see, 
very devoted to Apollo and his Muses in our gens! (Modesty 
almost prohibits me from mentioning  [but not quite ;-) ] 
that even I myself had a collection of my Latin haiku 
published by a literary review here in Silesia last month.) 
 
In other words, I think we would be very grateful for your 
establishement of a Classical and Latin Poetry list 
("Classical" so as not to exclude all Greek, "Latin" so as 
not to exclude all post-classical Latin materials). 
Hopefully at eGroups, where we all already have accounts, 
and which gives such good service... 
 
Speaking (with such evident pride) of my gens, I would like 
to congratulate Vado and his gens on their new filius. That 
is not only a joy for them but for all Nova Roma, in my 
opinion. And indeed we will all learn something from him! 
 
Anyway, we're waiting Aeternia! (And if in any way you need 
help, please feel free to consult me.) 
 
      Vivat Ars Poetica! Vivant Musae! Vivat Nova Roma! 
 
Bene valete! 
 
Marcus Apollonius Formosanus, 
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae, 
Triumvir Condens Sodalitatis Latinitatis Futurae 
Civis Novae Romae in Silesia, Polonia 
ICQ# 61698049 
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[Se vi deziras subigi chion al vi, subigu vin al Racio.] 
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