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[novaroma] NR Practical Latin 3: Plurals |
| From: |
"M. Apollonius Formosanus" <bvm3@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 09 Jul 2000 03:00:25 +0200 |
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M. Apollonius Formosanus Civibus Omnibus Novae Romae S.P.D.
In our first lesson we learned how to use informal
greetings:
Salve (sing.) or Salvete (pl.) + ADDRESSEE (Vocative)
And we learned that the Vocative is just like the basic
Nominative except for names ending in -US, and that the
rules for changing those were:
-US > -E
-IUS > -I
-AUS > -AË (two syllables)
In our second lesson we learned how to make the traditional
salutation in letters:
SENDER (Nominative) + RECIPIENT (Dative) + S.P.D.
We learned how to make the Dative from the Nominative by
these rules:
-A > -AE
-US > -O
-IS > -I
-OR > -ORI
____________________________
Now, in Lesson 3 we are going to learn how to make Latin
plurals. These will all be Nominative, so the form that you
would use them in an English sentence or the subject of a
Latin sentence or in isolation.
There is usually nothing wrong with using an English plural
for Latin words in English. We can say one praetor, two
praetors. But if we feel like using the Latin plural, we can
also say one praetor, two praetores.
With other Latin words finding a really good purely English
plural is difficult. What is the English plural of "civis"
or "sacerdos"?
So, how do we form the plurals? To do this systematically,
we should learn what the Declensions of Latin are. A
Declension is just a group of words (nouns, pronouns and
adjectives) that take the same kinds of endings. If we put
them all in the same group, it is easy to remember the
endings. We then don't have to remember the endings
individually for each word.
Latin has five Declensions for nouns, but some of them have
more than one subclass. We shall apply some of these in a
practical way to some common terms used in Nova Roma. But
first a note on the approximate pronunciation given after
each example:
eh as in "let"
ay as in "say"
oo as in "book"
ue as in "Sue"
oose as in "goose"
ih as in "sit"
oh as in "oh"
eye as in "eye"
ace as in "ace" = ase as in "case"
Other sounds should be pronounced in a manner natural in
English.
This pronunciation is only approximate for now, but it will
help you to get the accented syllable right in the singular
and plural, and help you to avoid any big mistakes.
Now let us examine some common words from several classes:
_____________________________________________
FIRST DECLENSION (pl. in -AE)
Romana > Romanae (Roman woman/women) [roh-MAH-na/eye]
Latinista > Latinistae (male Latinist/Latinists)
[la-tee-NIHST-a/eye]
Latinistria > Latinistriae (female Latinist/Latinists)
[la-tee-NIHS-tri-a/eye]
scriba > scribae (male scribe/scribes) [SKREE-ba/eye]
collega > collegae (male colleague/colleagues)
[kol-LAY-ga/eye]
pagana > paganae (female pagan/pagans) [pah-GAH-na/eye]
dea > deae (goddess/goddesses) [DEH-a/eye]
provincia > provinciae (province/provinces)
[proh-WIHN-ki-a/eye]
Musa > Musae (Muse/Muses) [MUE-sa/eye]
poeta > poetae (male poet/poets) [po-AY-ta/eye]
poetria > poetriae (poetess/poetesses) [po-AY-tri-a/eye]
filia > filiae (daughter/daughters) [FEE-li-a/eye]
curia > curiae (curia/curias, ward/wards) [KUE-ri-a/eye]
Kalendae (always plural: Kalends) [ka-LEHN-dye]
Nonae (always plural: Nones) [NOH-nye]
litterae (always plural with singular meaning: letter,
epistle; literature)
[LIHT-teh-rye]
________________________________________________
SECOND DECLENSION (pl. in -I for masc. and -A for neuter)
tribunus > tribuni (tribune/tribunes) [trih-BUE-noose/ee]
populus > populi (people/peoples) [PO-poo-loos/ee]
stoicus > stoici (stoic/stoics) [STOH-i-koos/ee]
Romanus > Romani (male Roman/Romans) [roh-MAH-noose/ee]
paganus > pagani (male pagan/pagans) [pah-GAH-noose/ee]
legatus > legati (legate/legates) [lay-GAH-toose/ee]
filius > filii (son/sons) [FEE-li-oos / FEE-li-ee]
ludus > ludi (game/games) [LUE-dooss/ee]
deus > dei OR IRREGULAR dii OR di (god/gods)
[DEH-oos/DEH-ee/DIH-ee/DEE]
magister > magistri (master/masters, male teacher/teachers)
[ma-GIHS-ter/ma-GIHS-tree]
triumvir > tresviri IRREGULAR (triumvir/triumvirs)
[trih-OOM-wir/TRAYSS-wih-ree]
edictum > edicta (edict/edicts) [ay-DIHK-toom/a]
senatusconsultum > senatusconsulta (senatorial
resolution/resolutions)
[se-NAH-toose-con-SOOL-toom/a]
collegium > collegia (college/colleges) [kol-LEG-i-oom/a]
plebiscitum > plebisciti (popular decree/decrees)
[play-bee-SKEE-toom/ee]
comitia (always plural: a popular assembly) [co-MIH-ti-a]
Saturnalia (always plural: Saturnalia) [sah-toor-NAH-li-a]
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THIRD DECLENSION (pl. in -ES for masc. & fem., neut. in -IA)
praetor > praetores (praetor/praetors)
[PRY-tohr/pry-TOH-race]
censor > censores (censor/censors)
[KEHN-sor/kehn-SOH-race]
rogator > rogatores (rogator/rogators, poll clerk/clerks)
[ro-GAH-tor/ro-gah-TOH-race]
curator > curatores (curator/curators)
[kue-RAH-tor/kue-rah-TOH-race]
senator > senatores (senator/senators)
[seh-NAH-tor/se-nah-TOH-race]
lictor > lictores (lictor/lictors)
[LIHK-tor/lihk-TOH-race]
gubernator > gubernatores (governor/governors)
[goo-ber-NAH-tor/goo-ber-nah-TOH-race]
imperator > imperatores (general/generals,
emperor/emperors)
[ihm-peh-RAH-tor/ihm-peh-rah-TOH-race]
moderator > moderatores (male director/directors)
[maw-deh-RAH-tor/maw-deh-rah-TOH-race]
civis > cives (citizen/citizens) [KEE-wihs/KEE-wace]
aedilis > aediles (aedile/aediles) [eye-DEE-lihs/ace]
gentilis > gentiles (gens member/gens members)
[gehn-TEE-lihs/ace]
sodalis > sodales (club member/members) [saw-DAH-lihs/ace]
Lar > Lares (Lar/Lares, household tutelary deity/deities)
[LAHR/LA-race]
Penates (always plural: Penates, household gods)
[peh-NAH-tace]
sodalitas > sodalitates (sodality/sodalities)
[saw-DAH-lih-tahss/saw-dah-lih-TAH-tace]
lex > leges (law/laws) [LAKES/LAY-gihs]
sacerdos > sacerdotes (priest/priests)
[sa-KER-dohss/sa-ker-DOH-tace]
flamen > flamines (flamen/flamens)
[FLAH-mehn/FLAH-mih-nace]
pontifex > pontifices (pontifex/pontifexes)
[PON-tih-fehks/pon-TIH-fih-case]
augur > augures (augur/augurs) [OW-goor/OW-goo-race]
consul > consules (consul/consuls)
[KON-sool/KON-soo-lace]
legio > legionis (legion/legions)
[LEH-gi-oh/le-gi-OH-nihs]
centurio > centurionis (centurian/centurians)
[kehn-TOO-ri-oh/kehn-too-ri-OH-nihss]
provocatio > provocationes (appeal/appeals to the People)
[proh-wo-KAH-ti-oh/proh-wo-ka-ti-OH-nace]
intercessio > intercessiones (veto/vetoes)
[ihn-ter-KEHS-si-oh/ihn-ter-keh-si-OH-nace]
Quirís > Quirites (Quirite/Quirites)
[KWIH-rees/kwih-REE-tace]
gens > gentes (gens/gentes) [GAYNSS/GEHN-tihss]
paterfamilias > patresfamilias (paterfamilias/?)
[PA-ter-fa-MIH-lih-ahss/PA-trace-fa-MIH-li-ahss]
materfamilias > matresfamilias (materfamilias/?)
[MA-ter-fa-MIH-lih-ahss/Ma-trace-fa-MIH-li-ahss]
curatrix > curatrices (female curator/curators)
[kue-RAH-treeks/kue-rah-TREE-case]
senatrix > senatrices (female senator/senators)
[seh-NAH-treeks/seh-nah-TREE-case]
moderatrix > moderatrices (directress/directresses)
[mo-deh-RAH-treeks/mo-deh-rah-TREE-case]
nomen > nomina (name/names) [NOH-mehn/NOH-mih-na]
__________________________________________________
FOURTH DECLENSION (pl. in -ÚS for masc., -UA for neuter)
senatus > senatús (senate/senates)
[seh-NAH-tooss/seh-NAH-toose]
tribus > tribús (tribe/tribes) [TRIH-booss/TRIH-boose]
Idús (always plural: Ides) [EE-doose]
Note that some masculine nouns ending in -US belong to the
Second Declension and the plural ends in -I, and some to the
Fourth, whose plural ends in -ÚS. The difference in
pronunciation of singular -US and plural -ÚS is that between
"puss" and "loose".
_________________________________________________
FIFTH DECLENSION (pl. in -ES)
dies > dies (day/days) [DIH-ace/DIH-ace]
res > res (thing/things) [RACE/RACE]
(We do not have any common Nova Roman terms in the Fifth
Declension.)
This may seem complicated, but consider the different ways
to make plurals we have inherited in English:
man > men, child > children, ox > oxen, mouse > mice,
crisis > crises, kibbutz > kibbutzim, phenomenon >
phenomena, datum > data, sheep > sheep, alumnus > alumni,
alumna > alumnae, château > châteaux...
Latin is just doing the same thing.
The following simplified rules apply in most cases:
CHANGE:
-A > -AE
-US > -I (but sometimes -ÚS or other)
-UM > -A
-ER > -RI (but sometimes -ERI)
-IS > -ES
-ES > -ES
-EN > -INES (masc.), -INA (neuter)
-E > -IA
-TAS > -TATES
ADD -ES:
-OR > -ORES
-IO > -IONES
-UL > -ULES
ADD -(I)A (neuters only):
-AL > -ALIA
-AR > -ARIA
-U > -UA
So, what are the plurals of these words?
finis (end, goal)
via (way, road)
lupus (wolf)
lupa (female wolf)
animal (animal)
cornu (horn)
certamen (neuter - struggle)
nubes (cloud)
mare (sea)
sacrificium (sacrifice)
lectio (lesson, reading)
exemplar (model, specimen)
forum (forum)
flumen (neuter - river)
arbor (tree)
religio (religion)
computatrum (computer)
gladiator (gladiator)
nuntium (message, announcement)
nuntius (messenger)
uxor (wife)
cognomen (neuter - cognomen)
genius (genius - spirit)
The above list is exercise. It would be good to write down
your answers. We shall provide the correct answers a little
later. It is not necessary to memorise the words, but if you
want to, they are mostly high frequency, and worth learning.
Note that we have not dealt with some of the rarer plurals
in this lesson.
If you have any problems, please contact me!
Valete!
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Nova Roman Faction |
| From: |
"Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 9 Jul 2000 02:13:35 +0100 |
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Nicolaus Moravius Vado floated on his back in the bath-house tepidarium, listening absently to his secretary Hyacinthus reading dispatches of the day's events from all over the empire of Nova Roma from the glowing screen of a cork-bound, floating laptop, while young Ariston massaged into his scalp the rosemary and henna oil which the physician in Venta had assured him would keep his hair from greying.
Neither Hyacinthus nor Ariston were Greeks, of course, despite the solemn oath of the trader in Portus Adurni he'd picked them up from, at a bargain price, the year before in an attempt to add dignitas to his new-found Propraetorial rank. Both had turned out to be dark-skinned Silures, completely illiterate, and previously owned by a Greek oil importer from Masilia, from whom they had learned about as much of the tongue of Homer and Demosthenes as would get you a good drunken punch-up in a lupanaria anywhere in the civilized world. Unwilling to admit he had been put one over on, Vado had taught them Greek and Latin letters himself. Once Hyacinthus knew enough to read the Windows 123 online help tutorials, the rest had been plain sailing. That was the great thing about this wonderful empire, thought Vado: anyone could, with a little time and effort, become somebody else. He relaxed and let Hyacinthus' words float away with the steam over his head.
But talk about keeping a dog and barking yourself, he mused. That had been the story of his life...
Velox, the mute Sarmatian wolfhound he had been sold as a guard dog ("Thirty denarii to you, Legate - he's specially trained to only bark at intruders..."), got up from the massage-slab where he had been dozing and ambled over to the bath-house door, wagging his tail.
"Grrrrrrr...rrRRRRRrrrVov! VOV! VOV!! GRRRRrrrrrr!!! Down, Velox! Quiet! Down, boy!" Vado barked and shouted in what he hoped was a convincing duet with himself. Hyacinthus had a sudden fit of coughing behind his hand. Ariston ducked under the water and blew bubbles.
The door opened. It was Prasudubnus the cook, another Brit, who wasn't Greek either and could actually cook before Vado employed him, but was allergic to garlic and fish-sauce. Velox greeted him like a long-lost brother.
"Excuse me, Domine -" Prasudubnus began.
"Oh, come on in, Prasudubnus, and bring the bloody ianitor and the vilicus with you, and have a bath while you're about it. And why don't you bring the people who are laying the mosaic in the atrium as well?" sighed Vado. "Do I have to go to the sella familiarica to get any peace?"
"Er, no, Domine, it's blocked again... Cassitagus and Caramandus are working on it. You wouldn't believe - "
"All right, all right. I don't want to know what's stuck down the necessarium. What do you want?"
Vado felt a sudden, irrational urge to roll a dried exotic herb up in a tube of paper, set fire to one end and suck the soothing smoke through the other. It came upon him in moments of acute frustration. He couldn't work it out.
"Er, well, Domine, the Games are on in town this afternoon - "
"They've been on for a bloody week," said Vado. "Cock and dogfights, for the most part. I had to sit through all of Day One, in celebration of the new Decemvirs' election. The high point was horseback boar-sticking. Gods, it was dull. I was stuck there in a front seat of honour. Couldn't get away..."
"Er, yes, Domine, I know, but - there's this new show on today. There's this big Batavian called Brutto - he's a boxer - and he's going to fight with a Caledonian bear..." Hyacinthus and Ariston looked up hopefully.
"You know, Domine," Prasudubnus went on, "it's so seldom we get any sophisticated cultural entertainment here in the Provinces - "
"You've never been further than Londinium," Vado corrected him.
"Well, yes, Magister, true - but that's a big city. Twenty thousand people. Surely Rome can't be much bigger, can it?"
Vado thought for a moment. Rome. City of one and a half million inhabitants. Population the size of the whole of Britannia. With probably fewer souls in it than Londinium. Ibi omnia venalia.
"No, I shouldn't think so," he agreed. "So you all want to go and see the bear and the boxer?" They beamed, and nodded.
Vado sighed. "OK. Bugger off and leave me alone, then. And put ten sesterces on the bear for me, Hyacinthus. Share out half if he wins." He'd seen this scam in Calleva the month before, and in Noviomagus the month before that. The 'boxer' was always a condemned local criminal, given a 'sporting' chance of survival after paying his debt to society. The bear always won.
The little statuette of Fortuna above the perfume-flasks and strigils in a niche in the corner, caught his eye. "On second thoughts, put it on the boxer."
Vado barely managed to snatch the laptop from a watery grave as a tidal wave surged in the wake of Hyacinthus' and Ariston's rapid exit, closely followed by Prasudubnus and Velox. Shouts of: "Oi! Mind the wet - SHIT!" came from the mosaic-layers in the courtyard.
Once the water level stabilized, Vado took a look at the laptop screen, and opened the next message in the inbox. It was something from C. Lupinius Festus, one of those too-clever Epicurians, who ought to have fetched up boxing with a bear himself after the way he had blasphemed the gods publicly in the Forum. What was the fellow up to now?
The dispatch was long. Very long. It concerned details of Flavius Vedius Germanicus' military command somewhere out East, something that he'd heard nothing about before. It was followed by intimate details of the Cassii family enjoying themselves in Athens. He knew they weren't there. And there was a discussion of Nero's merits as Caesar, as if the fat little gobshite hadn't been dead and frying in his own lard in Hades for over fifty years now. Lies, all lies. What on earth could it mean?
Vado's brow furrowed. He really wished he had one of those little paper herb-tubes to suck. Hmm. But to light it in the bath he'd also need a little oil-lamp you could ignite by flicking a tiny attached steel wheel with your thumb against a fixed piece of flint, which in turn would light the wick. Perhaps the Egyptians had such things...
With an effort he cleared his mind and read Festus' dispatch to the end. Not one word of it was true. Clearly the fellow was posting disinformation, but why?
No! Of course! It had to be a code, a cipher of some sort. A really elegant one in which whole sentences were transposed instead of merely individual letters. Cunning. How better to hide something secret than to paint it vermilion and stick it in the middle of the Circus Maximus?
The door opened and a long shadow fell across Vado, the laptop and the cooling bathwater. It was Aletheia Moravia, back from the Macellum.
"What the Hades are you doing, still in the bath and still glued to that tabella electronica?" She asked him, icily."Do you know what time it is? The sella familiarica is blocked, there are piles of tesserae and wet cement with footprints in the atrium, the place is deserted, and the Caecilii are coming for dinner this evening. Don't say you've forgotten I invited them over tonight? And where," she yelled, lapsing into her native Ordovican profanity, "in the name of Taranis Toutates IS everybody?" .
Vado wondered whether one's chances against a bear in the arena were better than going one round with Aletheia.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Nova Roman Faction |
| From: |
"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@--------> |
| Date: |
Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:14:36 -0700 |
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Ave,
Interesting post....but my question is what faction is posting this? ;)
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 6:13 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Nova Roman Faction
> Nicolaus Moravius Vado floated on his back in the bath-house tepidarium,
listening absently to his secretary Hyacinthus reading dispatches of the
day's events from all over the empire of Nova Roma from the glowing screen
of a cork-bound, floating laptop, while young Ariston massaged into his
scalp the rosemary and henna oil which the physician in Venta had assured
him would keep his hair from greying.
>
> Neither Hyacinthus nor Ariston were Greeks, of course, despite the solemn
oath of the trader in Portus Adurni he'd picked them up from, at a bargain
price, the year before in an attempt to add dignitas to his new-found
Propraetorial rank. Both had turned out to be dark-skinned Silures,
completely illiterate, and previously owned by a Greek oil importer from
Masilia, from whom they had learned about as much of the tongue of Homer and
Demosthenes as would get you a good drunken punch-up in a lupanaria anywhere
in the civilized world. Unwilling to admit he had been put one over on, Vado
had taught them Greek and Latin letters himself. Once Hyacinthus knew enough
to read the Windows 123 online help tutorials, the rest had been plain
sailing. That was the great thing about this wonderful empire, thought Vado:
anyone could, with a little time and effort, become somebody else. He
relaxed and let Hyacinthus' words float away with the steam over his head.
>
> But talk about keeping a dog and barking yourself, he mused. That had been
the story of his life...
>
> Velox, the mute Sarmatian wolfhound he had been sold as a guard dog
("Thirty denarii to you, Legate - he's specially trained to only bark at
intruders..."), got up from the massage-slab where he had been dozing and
ambled over to the bath-house door, wagging his tail.
>
> "Grrrrrrr...rrRRRRRrrrVov! VOV! VOV!! GRRRRrrrrrr!!! Down, Velox! Quiet!
Down, boy!" Vado barked and shouted in what he hoped was a convincing duet
with himself. Hyacinthus had a sudden fit of coughing behind his hand.
Ariston ducked under the water and blew bubbles.
>
> The door opened. It was Prasudubnus the cook, another Brit, who wasn't
Greek either and could actually cook before Vado employed him, but was
allergic to garlic and fish-sauce. Velox greeted him like a long-lost
brother.
>
> "Excuse me, Domine -" Prasudubnus began.
>
> "Oh, come on in, Prasudubnus, and bring the bloody ianitor and the vilicus
with you, and have a bath while you're about it. And why don't you bring the
people who are laying the mosaic in the atrium as well?" sighed Vado. "Do I
have to go to the sella familiarica to get any peace?"
>
> "Er, no, Domine, it's blocked again... Cassitagus and Caramandus are
working on it. You wouldn't believe - "
>
> "All right, all right. I don't want to know what's stuck down the
necessarium. What do you want?"
>
> Vado felt a sudden, irrational urge to roll a dried exotic herb up in a
tube of paper, set fire to one end and suck the soothing smoke through the
other. It came upon him in moments of acute frustration. He couldn't work it
out.
>
> "Er, well, Domine, the Games are on in town this afternoon - "
>
> "They've been on for a bloody week," said Vado. "Cock and dogfights, for
the most part. I had to sit through all of Day One, in celebration of the
new Decemvirs' election. The high point was horseback boar-sticking. Gods,
it was dull. I was stuck there in a front seat of honour. Couldn't get
away..."
>
> "Er, yes, Domine, I know, but - there's this new show on today. There's
this big Batavian called Brutto - he's a boxer - and he's going to fight
with a Caledonian bear..." Hyacinthus and Ariston looked up hopefully.
>
> "You know, Domine," Prasudubnus went on, "it's so seldom we get any
sophisticated cultural entertainment here in the Provinces - "
>
> "You've never been further than Londinium," Vado corrected him.
>
> "Well, yes, Magister, true - but that's a big city. Twenty thousand
people. Surely Rome can't be much bigger, can it?"
>
> Vado thought for a moment. Rome. City of one and a half million
inhabitants. Population the size of the whole of Britannia. With probably
fewer souls in it than Londinium. Ibi omnia venalia.
>
> "No, I shouldn't think so," he agreed. "So you all want to go and see the
bear and the boxer?" They beamed, and nodded.
>
> Vado sighed. "OK. Bugger off and leave me alone, then. And put ten
sesterces on the bear for me, Hyacinthus. Share out half if he wins." He'd
seen this scam in Calleva the month before, and in Noviomagus the month
before that. The 'boxer' was always a condemned local criminal, given a
'sporting' chance of survival after paying his debt to society. The bear
always won.
>
> The little statuette of Fortuna above the perfume-flasks and strigils in a
niche in the corner, caught his eye. "On second thoughts, put it on the
boxer."
>
> Vado barely managed to snatch the laptop from a watery grave as a tidal
wave surged in the wake of Hyacinthus' and Ariston's rapid exit, closely
followed by Prasudubnus and Velox. Shouts of: "Oi! Mind the wet - SHIT!"
came from the mosaic-layers in the courtyard.
>
> Once the water level stabilized, Vado took a look at the laptop screen,
and opened the next message in the inbox. It was something from C. Lupinius
Festus, one of those too-clever Epicurians, who ought to have fetched up
boxing with a bear himself after the way he had blasphemed the gods publicly
in the Forum. What was the fellow up to now?
>
> The dispatch was long. Very long. It concerned details of Flavius Vedius
Germanicus' military command somewhere out East, something that he'd heard
nothing about before. It was followed by intimate details of the Cassii
family enjoying themselves in Athens. He knew they weren't there. And there
was a discussion of Nero's merits as Caesar, as if the fat little gobshite
hadn't been dead and frying in his own lard in Hades for over fifty years
now. Lies, all lies. What on earth could it mean?
>
> Vado's brow furrowed. He really wished he had one of those little paper
herb-tubes to suck. Hmm. But to light it in the bath he'd also need a little
oil-lamp you could ignite by flicking a tiny attached steel wheel with your
thumb against a fixed piece of flint, which in turn would light the wick.
Perhaps the Egyptians had such things...
>
> With an effort he cleared his mind and read Festus' dispatch to the end.
Not one word of it was true. Clearly the fellow was posting disinformation,
but why?
>
> No! Of course! It had to be a code, a cipher of some sort. A really
elegant one in which whole sentences were transposed instead of merely
individual letters. Cunning. How better to hide something secret than to
paint it vermilion and stick it in the middle of the Circus Maximus?
>
> The door opened and a long shadow fell across Vado, the laptop and the
cooling bathwater. It was Aletheia Moravia, back from the Macellum.
>
> "What the Hades are you doing, still in the bath and still glued to that
tabella electronica?" She asked him, icily."Do you know what time it is? The
sella familiarica is blocked, there are piles of tesserae and wet cement
with footprints in the atrium, the place is deserted, and the Caecilii are
coming for dinner this evening. Don't say you've forgotten I invited them
over tonight? And where," she yelled, lapsing into her native Ordovican
profanity, "in the name of Taranis Toutates IS everybody?" .
>
> Vado wondered whether one's chances against a bear in the arena were
better than going one round with Aletheia.
>
> - NOT TO BE CONTINUED -
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] New Citizen |
| From: |
"Redd" <jsimmons@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:08:49 -0700 |
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Welcome!
Porcia
----- Original Message -----
From: Elizabeth Nealon-Gilroy <lucilla.aurelia@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 9:43 AM
Subject: [novaroma] New Citizen
> Salve, Qirites!
>
> Yip! Yip! Yip! I've been accepted as a citizen! Hoo-ya!!!
>
> Just thought I'd say "Hi y'all!" and introduce myself. I'm looking
> forward to meeting fellow citizens and to devoting my energy and
> talents to the realization of Nova Roma's destiny. Quod bonum,
> felix, faustumque sit!
>
>
> Bona fortuna perpetua et bene valete,
>
> Lucilla Aurelia Decima Antonina
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Another new citizen |
| From: |
"Redd" <jsimmons@--------> |
| Date: |
Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:10:30 -0700 |
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Welcome!
Porcia
----- Original Message -----
From: Lauriat <blauriat@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 1:47 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Another new citizen
> Salvete!
>
> As there has been this rash of new citizens introducing themselves I
thought to jump on the bandwagon...
> I find the entire concept of Nova Roma exciting and fascinating and almost
a dream come true, as everyone who knows me also knows that deep down inside
I wish I was an old Roman.
> If anyone wants to discuss Early Official Roman Attitudes to the
Importations of Foreign Religions I am doing my senior thesis on that
particular subject. (I am covering Apollo, Juno of Veii, Venus Erycina,
Aesculapius, Magna Mater and possible others though not Mithras, because my
advisor has some strange notion that Mithraic worship doesn't apply to my
thesis-go figure). I'm pretty much willing to discuss anything remotely
Roman though...
> I am located in the province of Nova Brittania. I look forward to getting
to know as many of you fellow Romaphiles as I possibly can.
>
> -Lauria Maria Crispa
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Interesting Roman site startup... |
| From: |
exitil@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 9 Jul 2000 02:55:54 EDT |
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In a message dated 7/8/00 5:06:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
cassius622@-------- writes:
> From the graphics on the site it looks like a professional firm has
> been hired to do the website itself.
Unfortunately the movie itself, by the pictures from the site, looks
unbelievably cheesy.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Nova Roman Faction |
| From: |
"Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 9 Jul 2000 18:11:39 +0100 |
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> Ave,
Tu quoque Luci Corneli.
> Interesting post....but my question is what faction is posting this? ;)
Posting what?
Anyway, you know what they say: "Ruth is stranger than faction." (:-D
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| Subject: |
[novaroma] Military Step |
| From: |
"Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 9 Jul 2000 18:44:16 +0100 |
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N. Moravius Quiritibus salutem dat
I have come across a fragment of Vegetius' 'Military Science' (Book I, ix) (in English, alas, hence the following ambiguity I am unable to resolve):
"... twenty miles with the military step should be done in five hours, in the summer only; with the full step, which is quicker, twenty-four miles should be completed in the same number of hours..."
If I understand this correctly, Vegetius means that the infantry used a kind of foreshortened step (I would guess, of a regulation length of iii. pedes), as distinct from a person's natural step, which of course would vary.
I can see the advantages in a regulation short step, as it would tend to produce less lateral momentum with all the kit a legionary marched with, while its uniformity would make close-order marching feasible.
I should think, though, that it would also be more tiring, at least to a new recruit.
Can anyone enlighten me on this?
Bene valete,
Vado.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Nova Roman Faction |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla <alexious@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 09 Jul 2000 10:22:38 -0700 |
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Nick Ford wrote:
> > Ave,
>
> Tu quoque Luci Corneli.
>
> > Interesting post....but my question is what faction is posting this? ;)
>
> Posting what?
>
Your story....thats why I included it in my response. :) What faction is
represented in your post. :)
SF
>
> Anyway, you know what they say: "Ruth is stranger than faction." (:-D
>
> Vado.
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Nova Roman Faction |
| From: |
"Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@--------> |
| Date: |
Sun, 9 Jul 2000 20:42:28 +0100 |
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Sullae salutem:
> > > Interesting post....but my question is what faction is posting this?
;)
> >
> > Posting what?
> >
>
> Your story....thats why I included it in my response. :) What faction is
> represented in your post. :)
It's all faction. Every portmanteau word of it. As they say: "The tooth is
stronger than friction." (:-D
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| Subject: |
Re: [novaroma] Military Step |
| From: |
sfp55@-------- |
| Date: |
Sun, 9 Jul 2000 15:53:53 EDT |
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In a message dated 7/9/2000 11:50:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
gens_moravia@-------- writes:
<< "... twenty miles with the military step should be done in five hours, in
the summer only; with the full step, which is quicker, twenty-four miles
should be completed in the same number of hours..."
>>
We military historians have always assumed, (presuming that the Latin was
copied correctly), that by the 4th cen. field armies were always on the go,
moving from hot spot to hot spot within the empire. In an emergency the
field force added an extra 5 miles a day to their journey. The summer had a
longer day, so the field force could march further. (We call this a forced
march, today) Of course with mechanization we don't use it. Great story by
the way. Well, will the tilers complete the job?
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