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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Plebian Gens Promotion - Gens Annaea
From:	<gmvick32@-------->
Date:	Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:16:21 -0600

Salvete Omnes

L. Cornelia Aurelia passes around the best Falernian wine for all......three
cheers for the Gens Annaea!!!

Livia

Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote:

> Ave Omnes
>
> It is my pleasure to announce that we have a new Patrician Gens amongst
> our ranks. The Gens Annaea will be promoted from its current status as
> a Plebian Gen to a Patrician on. The reason C. Marius Merullus and I
> decided were: The Pater has been a member of Nova Roma since July
> 1998. Also, a member of that Gens ran for officie during the last
> election. Finally, numerous times, members in that Gens have contacted
> us regarding promoting them from a Plebian status to a Patrician
> status. After consultation between my colleague and myself, we decided
> that this should be corrected. Please welcome them to ranks of
> Patrician Nova Romans.
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> Censor
>
>

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Plebian Gens Promotion - Gens Annaea
From:	LucillaCornelia@--------
Date:	Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:35:41 -0400

Ave Qirites,

Best wishes and bona fortuna sempre for Gens Anneaa on this most auspicious occasion. And, um, thanks for the vino, Livia! :)

Floreat domus!

Valete bene,

Lucilla Cornelia Aurelia Antonina

novaroma@-------- wrote:
>
> Salvete Omnes
>
> L. Cornelia Aurelia passes around the best Falernian wine for all......three
> cheers for the Gens Annaea!!!
>
> Livia
>
>
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote:
>
> > Ave Omnes
> >
> > It is my pleasure to announce that we have a new Patrician Gens amongst
> > our ranks. The Gens Annaea will be promoted from its current status as
> > a Plebian Gen to a Patrician on. The reason C. Marius Merullus and I
> > decided were: The Pater has been a member of Nova Roma since July
> > 1998. Also, a member of that Gens ran for officie during the last
> > election. Finally, numerous times, members in that Gens have contacted
> > us regarding promoting them from a Plebian status to a Patrician
> > status. After consultation between my colleague and myself, we decided
> > that this should be corrected. Please welcome them to ranks of
> > Patrician Nova Romans.
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> > Censor
> >
> >
>
>

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Plebian Gens Promotion - Gens Annaea
From:	Caius Flavius Diocletianus <3s@-------->
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:53:34 +0200

Caius Flavius Diocletianus Quiritibus S.P.D.

Also, Salve, honoured Gens Annaea.

It´s also a pleasure for me, as a member of the patrician gens Flavia, to
welcome you, members of the Gens Annaea, to ranks of Patrician Nova Romans.
May the gods smile upon you all. Best wishes for the future.

Caius Flavius Diocletianus
Legatus Germaniae

Lucius Cornelius Sulla schrieb:

> Ave Omnes
>
> It is my pleasure to announce that we have a new Patrician Gens amongst
> our ranks. The Gens Annaea will be promoted from its current status as
> a Plebian Gen to a Patrician on. The reason C. Marius Merullus and I
> decided were: The Pater has been a member of Nova Roma since July
> 1998. Also, a member of that Gens ran for officie during the last
> election. Finally, numerous times, members in that Gens have contacted
> us regarding promoting them from a Plebian status to a Patrician
> status. After consultation between my colleague and myself, we decided
> that this should be corrected. Please welcome them to ranks of
> Patrician Nova Romans.
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> Censor
>
>

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Subject:	[novaroma] Suggestion from Lucius Aetius Dalmaticus
From:	JSmithCSA@--------
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 03:42:43 -0400

Hi NovaRoma,

Lucius Aetius Dalmaticus stopped by Discovering Archaeology
and suggested that you visit the following URL:

http://www.discoveringarchaeology.com/articles/072600-rome.shtml

Here is their message....
Salvete! I found this story interesting. I hope you will, too.

Discovering Archaeology

http://discoveringarchaeology.com/

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Subject:	[novaroma] Emperor's Private Battleground
From:	Jeff Smith <JSmithCSA@-------->
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:55:21 -0700 (PDT)

Article from "Archeology Today", forwarded by L. A.
Dalmaticus.

Ruins Reveal Emperor's Private Battleground

By Rossella Lorenzi,
Discovery.com News

July 25, 2000 — The Roman emperor Commodus might have
cultivated the gladiator skills showcased in Ridley
Scott's blockbuster film Gladiator by building a
personal miniature Colosseum in the back garden of his
villa.
Archaeologists believe that a large oval area bordered
by ruins in the Villa dei Quintili is in fact an arena
used by the emperor for private gladiator contests.

"There is a good chance it was Commodus' personal
arena. In fact, the building is connected with the
private part of his residence," Rita Paris, the state
archaeologist responsible for the excavation, told
Rome's newspaper Il Messaggero.

Commodus ruled Rome from 180 A.D., succeeding his
father Marcus Aurelius, until 192 A.D., when he was
strangled in his bath by a wrestler.

Immediately after he became emperor, he vaunted his
strength in gladiatorial combats at Rome's Colosseum.

The emperor confiscated the Villa dei Quintili in 182,
after he sent its owners, the Quintilius brothers, to
death for supposedly plotting against him. He then
began a renovation plan by adding rooms, baths, a
heating system, a thermal bath complex and the
sporting arena.

The villa, recently restored and opened to visitors,
is still under an extensive digging program.
Archaeologists think they will find the final evidence
for their claim as they get to the base of the
structure.

So far, the discovery in the adjacent area of basins
normally used by athletes for ablutions, as well as a
large, elongated area probably used as a gym, seems to
confirm the literary accounts of Commodus' arena
performances "in private."

According to his contemporary Dio Cassius, Commodus
killed men in his private gladiatorial bouts, and was
known for "slicing off a nose, an ear or various other
parts of the body."

An accomplished left-handed fighter, determined to
cast himself as "Hercules reborn," Commodus was also a
highly skilled beast-hunter who showed his ability in
the Colosseum by killing bears, tigers,
hippopotamuses, elephants, but also domestic animals.

He delighted the public by shooting crescent-headed
arrows at ostriches, who continued to dash around even
after they had been decapitated.

"The discovery at the Villa Quintili raises the
question whether Commodus perfected his skills in his
own private arena," said Jonathan Edmondson, an expert
on Roman spectacle and associate professor of history
and classical studies at York University, Toronto.

"This is a very exciting finding indeed. It is quite
possible for Commodus to have built a private
amphitheater at the villa. After all, a number of
other villas in the countryside around Rome had their
private circuses."

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Subject:	[novaroma] Latin Phrasebook & Congratulations
From:	"M. Apollonius Formosanus" <bvm3@-------->
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:10:47 +0200

M. Apollonius Formsanus N. Moravio Vadonti et alii SPD

You express an interest in a conversational phrasebook
for classical-style Latin. I am not certain exactly what you
want to say if useful things like "My postilion has been
struck by lightning" leave you cold. :-) However, there are
numerous things like this produced by the University of
Saarland. A good little one is "Latein Aktiv" by Father
Caelestis Eichenseer published by Langenscheidt. ISBN
3-468-42520-1. It provides expressions like: "I want a
receipt," "Please develop this film," "In which cinema is
the film about the eruption of Vesuvius showing?" "When will
the football game begin?" "Have you got a local telephone
book?" There are others available directly from the Societas
Latina at the University, which come with cassettes to
improve listening comprehension. Classical grammar and
phraseology with neologisms as necessary is the principle.
The language of translations is German, of course. The forms
in these books have acquired a considerable acceptation as
norms in modern Latin in Europe due to the outstanding
scholarship of Father Eichenseer, Sigrides Albert, and
Christian Helfer.

We may eventually produce one or a series for ourselves
too, depending on demand.

Finally let me congratulate the new patricians - Gens
Annaea!

Valete!

____________________________________
Vado scripsit (on a phrasebook):

Now this I would like to see, if its subjects are secular.
After all, as E.
M.Forster said, "The past is a foreign country", to which
all of us as
visitors could use a good phrase book. Beard's 'Lingua
Latina ad Multas
Occasionibus' just doesn't have the phrases I need, for one.
It's more of
the "my postilion has been struck by lightning" variety. I
assume there's a
parallel English text, Veni?

Failing that - Formosane, how about writing one for us? Te
precor
dulcissime supplex?

Vado.

--
Marcus Apollonius Formosanus
Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae
Triumvir Condens Sodalitatis Latinitatis
Scriba Censorius
Civis Novae Romae in Silesia, Polonia
ICQ# 61698049 Gens Apollonia:
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The Gens Apollonia is open to new members.
AVE RESPVBLICA LIBERA NOSTRA - NOVA ROMA!
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Subject:	[novaroma] Latin herbal
From:	wicachu@--------
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:23:49 EDT

Salve Lucilla Cornelia Aurelia Antonina, and my thanks for your kind words :)
I do have a question for the assembled citizenry this day. My religion
involves me heavily in herbs, both the cultivating and usage of. I am
teaching my Daughter, Titiana Sententiosa Britaega
( 'Ana) the craft as well, and she has begun studying the herbal I sent
her. What I would like to find is a herbal, in Latin. Preferably one of
historic nature. I am hoping that seeing Latin used on a subject she enjoys
will spur some interest on her part to learn some. It does come in very
handy to those of our kind :) Anyone know of any in print, or a good source
for finding obscure texts?
My thanks and may all be well this day.
May what you truly seek , find you.

Iona Sententiosa Britaega

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Subject:	[novaroma] Links
From:	"Lauriat" <blauriat@-------->
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:48:17 -0400

Salvete!

I receive regular emails of classics links from the Boston University Undergraduate Classics Association and I thought I'd pass along some of the more interesting/educational/funnier ones.
Enjoy!

-Lauria Maria

History Reveals a Truly Nasty Emperor
By Julian Catalano, Special To The LA Times
http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/lat_gladiator000510.ht

Allen & Greenough and lots of other neat secondary sources are now online, at
the bottom of this page:
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/perscoll?collection=Greco-Roman&type=text&lang=en

Today's Women Don't Like It When You Come to Them As a Bull or Swan
by Zeus, king of the gods
http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/todays_women.html

A quiz on knowledge of Roman-themed popular films.
http://www.filmunlimited.co.uk/quiz/questions/0,5952,220231,00.html

A strange tale of "Living Latin."
http://www.freakylinks.com/freakopedia/freaky_flora_and_fauna/fishwriting.html

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Subject:	[novaroma] - RESTORING THE MAP OF ANCIENT ROME
From:	"Vireo" <deisis19@-------->
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:00:40 -0400

Greetings m htp:
With hopes this is appropriate, i pass along the following--

This is from a mailing i get from Discovering Archaeology online. They have
their own articles, such as this, and links to others as well.

- RESTORING THE MAP OF ANCIENT ROME
Scientists and Computers are Reassembling a Huge Depiction
of the Old City
http://www.DISCOVERINGARCHAEOLOGY.COM/articles/072600-rome.shtml

ankh, seneb,
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Subject:	[novaroma] Gladiator plot
From:	Iulia66198@--------
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:26:17 EDT

Salvete omnes -

A friend forwarded this to me, so I thought I would share. While I prefer the finished product, this second draft makes interesting reading.

Valete,
Iulia Cassia - new citizen! :)

GLADIATOR by David Franzoni
Revised by John Logan

SECOND DRAFT
October 22, 1998

http://www.iddi.on.ca/crowe/Gladiator.htm

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Gladiator plot
From:	LucillaCornelia@--------
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:45:03 -0400

Ave, Iul!!!

Forgot to ask -- which IM do you use? I have AIM, ICQ and MSN. And, no, I'm not a megalomaniac. I just do whatever the voicesin my head tell me to do . . .

Vale,
Luci

novaroma@-------- wrote:
>
> Salvete omnes -
>
> A friend forwarded this to me, so I thought I would share. While I prefer the finished product, this second draft makes interesting reading.
>
> Valete,
> Iulia Cassia - new citizen! :)
>
> GLADIATOR by David Franzoni
> Revised by John Logan
>
> SECOND DRAFT
> October 22, 1998
>
> http://www.iddi.on.ca/crowe/Gladiator.htm
>
>
>

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Links
From:	Iulia66198@--------
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:50:58 EDT

Salvete!

In a message dated Thu, 27 Jul 2000 9:57:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Lauriat" <blauriat@--------> writes:

<<Today's Women Don't Like It When You Come to Them As a Bull or Swan
by Zeus, king of the gods
http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/todays_women.html>>

ROTFLOL! I am laughing so hard that I'm crying!

Well, the one thing you certainly say for ol' Zeus was that he *tried*. None of this 'fear of rejection,' thing. ;-)

Iulia Cassia

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Gladiator plot
From:	Iulia66198@--------
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:53:08 EDT

In a message dated Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:44:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LucillaCornelia@-------- writes:

<<Forgot to ask -- which IM do you use?>>

Look for Iulia66198 and that will be me! :)

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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: Question about offices
From:	jmath669642reng@--------
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:27:31 -0400 (EDT)

Salve, Gaius S.B. Sura;

There is currently one Tribunus Militarium Laticlavius in Nova Roma.
There are two Tribunus Civicum because that is what the Constitution
calls for at the present time, and that seems sufficient.

Since it is apparent that you have many questions, I respectfully
suggest that you carefully go through the NR Website which will answer
most of your questions, and look into joining a Sodalitas of which there
are now several, which will be able to answer your further questions
without having to wait for the Consuls to respond.

Most of the Senators and Magistrates are very knowledgable, and the
Consuls and Censors are particularly busy at this time in our schedule.

Vale, Respectfully;
Marcus Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

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Subject:	[novaroma] floorplans, pictures, etc. of Roman Houses
From:	"Aurelius Tiberius" <kminer_rsg@-------->
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:38:56 EDT

Salve,

If anyone out there has some good sites, photos,etc. of roman house plans
etc. please post them or let me know. Legio VI is in the process of
undertaking a project here in the North East to reconstruct a 2nd Century
Fortress with an ajoining "locals" Village. we have the property now and We
are hoping this will become one of the premiere sites at which Roman era
recreationists can come and play. We are also going to construct a portion
of Hadrian's Wall to give the place some more flavor.

So send any info you might have and if you are independently wealthy please
feel free to contact me to make a donation to our little project.

Vale

Aurelius Tiberius Ronanus
Praefectus Legionis & Tribuni Militum,
Legio VI of the Northern Army
& Cornicularius,Sodalitas Militarium et Nova Roma

"Nos Sumus Romae milites, parati stamus ad potestatem et gloriam eius. Roma
est Lux."
"we are soldiers of Rome, for her might and glory we stand ready... She is
the Light"

www.geocities.com/legio_vi

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Subject:	[novaroma] Citizens in the Provincia of Thule
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?titus=20curius?= <t_curius_d@-------->
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:51:19 +0200 (CEST)

Salvete fellow citizens of Nova Roma

I am a newly approved citizen in Nova Roma ("1
month old").
Now I would like to get in contact with other
citizens in the Provincia of Thule, in order to
establish some connections.
I myself live in the modern state of Denmark.
It would be nice if we, in the Provincia of Thule,
could help each other in making events or publicity
which will improve the knowledge about Nova Roma and
the old Rome.
I have been in contact with Magnus Hadrianus
Ingmarius Cognitatus Thuleus.
If you live in the Provincia please drop me a line.

Valete

Titus Curius Dannicus

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Subject:	[novaroma] looking for info on huts, houses, etc.
From:	"Aurelius Tiberius" <kminer_rsg@-------->
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:54:09 EDT

Salve everyone,

I forgot to add on my last post, if you have any info on the huts, houses,
etc. that the celts lived in during the 2nd century as well we would be
greatful for any suggestions,etc..

Thanks

Aurelius Tiberius

P.S. If anyone is interested in coming out this spring and swinging a
hammer, etc. drop me a line. we can use all the help we can get.

And as always we are taking new recruits!!!

Vale
ATR
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Subject:	[novaroma] Plays in Latin
From:	Iulia66198@--------
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:54:10 EDT

I was just checking out the gift store at AncientSites today and came across
a video of ancient plays put on some years ago at the University of North
Carolina, Chappel Hill - in Latin! The tape isn't cheap ($30), but it would
be very interesting to finally be able to see and hear a play being performed
in the mother tongue. ;-)

If anyone is interested, here (I hope) is the correct link:

http://www.ancientsites.com/xi/interface/market/gifts/index.rage?incl=latinLau
ghs

Does anyone know of any similar videos out there?

Valete,
Iulia Cassia

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Subject:	[novaroma] salve
From:	"lincoln oviedo" <lincoln13@-------->
Date:	Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:06:11 -0000

thank you for acepting me to you group.
lincoln ulysses oviedo

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