| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Re: I Mourn | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Lingo Man" <dbarr@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:21:27 -0700 | 
 
 | 
To all who've responded to my grandmother's death with sympathy and prayers, 
I thank you 
publically. 
 
What with one thing and another, it's been a very long bad week, and your 
messages, on and off list, have made an enormous difference. 
 
Thank you all, very much. 
 
Doug 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] [Fwd: [CaliforniaNovaRoma] Edictum:  Mandatory Subscription to the  Provincia Mailing List] | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Lucius Cornelius Sulla <alexious@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:34:16 -0700 | 
 
 | 
Ave Citizens of Nova Roma. 
 
I have published an Edictum as Proconsul of California to the 
CaliforniaNovaRoma email list.  I have felt it would be wise to get comments 
from the remainder of this great Micronation.  Please feel free to debate on 
this topic, I would be very interested to hear comments.  Espically from 
other governors. :) 
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 
Proconsul 
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote: 
 
> The purpose of this edict is to increase communication between the 
> citizens of the province, so that all may voice their opinions regarding 
> the administration of the province, also it will make organizing 
> provincial gatherings much easier, and it will give citizens the 
> opportunity to meet others who live in the province. 
> 
> With the adoption of this Edictum, it is a requirement that all Nova 
> Roman Citizens who reside in the Province of California be members of 
> the CaliforniaNovaRoma email list located at www.egroups.com. 
> 
> Citizens can utilize the webmail format, however, it is recommended that 
> we use at least the digest format.  I am hoping to organize several 
> meetings in the province soon, so please subscribe to the list as soon 
> as possible.  When I, as governor, sign people up to the list, I will 
> add them as Digest format.  That mode can be changed as long as each 
> citizen remains on the list. 
> 
> Also, with the passage of this edict, the governor of the province of 
> California and Nevada will automatically be established as the moderator 
> for 
> the CaliforniaNovaRoma onelist upon their appointment. 
> 
> This Edicta will now be up for dicussion amongst us for 7 days. 
> Beginning Aug 2nd.  Without any changes, it will become formalized on 
> Aug. 9th.  I would personally like to thank my Legate Drusus Cornelius 
> Claudius for his assistance in helping me draft this Edictum. 
> 
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 
> Proconsul 
> 
>  
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 
> CaliforniaNovaRoma-unsubscribe@-------- 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] [Fwd: [CaliforniaNovaRoma] Legate Edictum] | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Lucius Cornelius Sulla <alexious@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:45:48 -0700 | 
 
 | 
Ave Citizens of Nova Roma 
 
I have published an Edictum as Proconsul of California to the 
CaliforniaNovaRoma email list.  I have felt it would be wise to get comments 
from the remainder of this great Micronation.  Please feel free to debate on 
this topic, I would be very interested to hear comments.  Espically from 
other governors. :) 
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 
Proconsul 
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote: 
 
> Legate Edict: 
> 
> The purpose of this edict is to set guidlines for the appointment of 
> Legates 
> in the Nova Roman province of California and Nevada.  This edict will 
> also 
> set requirements limits on the appointment of Legates to prevent the 
> practice 
> of nepotism. 
> 
> Section 1: Privileges and responsibilities of Legates in California 
> 
> --  A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is given the 
> authority 
> to create, distribute, and enact means for the advertisement and 
> recruitment 
> of new citizens for Nova Roma (such as flyers) after gaining approval of 
> the 
> provincial governor under which he/she serves. 
> 
> --  A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is given the 
> authority 
> to speak for the governor should the governor loose access to his/her 
> normal 
> means of communication with Nova Roma. 
> 
> --  A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is given the 
> authority 
> to organize meetings and gatherings of citizens of the province. 
> 
> --  A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is responsible for 
> 
> whatever duties assigned to him/her by the governor within boundary of 
> Nova 
> Roman law. 
> 
> --  All Legates must maintain communication with the Governor.  In the 
> beginning an email every two (2) weeks giving the Proconsul an update 
> should be sufficient. 
> 
> Section 2: Limits on the appointment of Legates in California 
> 
> --  The provincial governor of the province of California and Nevada may 
> 
> appoint as many as five Legates to serve the various purposes in which 
> he/she 
> needs assistance. 
> 
> --  The province of California and Nevada must have at least four (4) 
> Legates 
> for the following reasons: 
>     1. A Legate must be appointed for the upkeep of the provincial 
> website 
>     2. A Legate must be appointed from Northern California 
>     3. A Legate must be appointed from Southern California 
>     4. A Legate must be appointed from Nevada 
> 
> --  No more than two (2) of the Legates appointed by the governor may be 
> 
> members of that governor's gens. 
> 
> --  The governor must, upon appointing a Legate, define publicly the 
> duties 
> which that Legate is responsible for.  The governor may declare the 
> purpose 
> of the Legate simply as: "To assist me in the various duties of 
> governance." 
> 
> This Edicta will now be up for dicussion amongst us for 7 days. 
> Beginning Aug 2nd.  Without any changes, it will become formalized on 
> Aug. 9th.  I would personally like to thank my Legate Drusus Cornelius 
> Claudius for his assistance in helping me draft this Edictum. 
> 
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 
> Proconsul 
> 
>  
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 
> CaliforniaNovaRoma-unsubscribe@-------- 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] California egroups. | 
 
	| From: | 
	 DrususCornelius@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Aug 2000 03:48:24 EDT | 
 
 | 
Salvete! 
 
    This message is regarding the California Provincial mailing list at  
Egroups.  The ProConsul of California L. Cornelius Sulla asks that all  
citizens of the province please join the list immediately.  Also, with the  
publishing of the edict making membership on the list mandatory for all  
citizens of the province, the ProConsul asks that the current moderator of  
the list give him co-moderator status on the list so that he will be able to  
add citizens onto the list. 
 
For the Senate and the Roman People, Valete! 
Drusus Cornelius Claudius 
Legate California Province 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Edictum:  Mandatory Subscription to the Provincia Mailing List | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:09:14 -0500 (CDT) | 
 
 | 
 
Salve Luci Corneli Proconsul, 
 
> > With the adoption of this Edictum, it is a requirement that all Nova 
> > Roman Citizens who reside in the Province of California be members of 
> > the CaliforniaNovaRoma email list located at www.egroups.com. 
 
It's certainly a good idea to promote communication within the province, 
and to encourage subscription to the provincial mailing list.  But how 
will this be enforced?  What would happen to someone who declines to  
subscribe to the mailing list, or who unsubscribes after being manually 
added by the moderators? 
 
On a somewhat related topic, GreatLakesNovaRoma@-------- currently 
has four members.  There haven't been any posts there for a week.  Our 
province has no propraetor, and there have been no recent efforts to 
organize any local events or gatherings.  Citizens of Lacus Magni,  
please join the list. 
 
Vale, Octavius. 
 
-- 
M. Octavius Germanicus 
Curule Aedile, Nova Roma		 
Microsoft delenda est! 
http://www.graveyards.com/ 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Re: I Mourn | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "pjane@-------- " <pjane@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:26:47 -0000 | 
 
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I am sorry for your loss, and offer my prayers for her swift passage  
to a place of peace and rest. I pray also for peace and healing in  
the hearts of those who mourn. 
 
Patricia Cassia 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Speaking of provincial e-mail lists... | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "pjane@-------- " <pjane@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:34:24 -0000 | 
 
 | 
The Nova Britannia Provincia also has an e-mail list for its  
Citizens, recently created to help us plan events and share  
information.  
 
It is purely voluntary, and also welcomes members from nearby  
Provinciae (Media Atlantica? Canada Occidentalis?) who might be able  
to participate in our activities. 
 
To join, send a blank e-mail to novabritannia@-------- (that's one  
T, two Ns in Britannia). 
 
Patricia Cassia 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Roman Days West, Oct 6-9 | 
 
	| From: | 
	 " Sheridan" <legioix@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:46:54 -0000 | 
 
 | 
Avete! 
 
I've set up a discussion forum for Roman Days West.  
 
To sign up  or join go to: 
 
http://www.egroups.com 
 
Our egroups address is: 
 
http://www.egroups.com/group/RomanDaysWest 
 
I have found it best to take advantage of the feature that allows you  
to go to egroups to read email instead of having it sent to your  
computer.   
 
Salvete, 
 
Sean "Sheridan" Richards 
 
Gaius Valerius Tacitus Hibernicus 
centurio 
Legio IX Hispana 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Absence Over the Weekend | 
 
	| From: | 
	 jmath669642reng@-------- | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:01:01 -0400 (EDT) | 
 
 | 
Salvete, Honored Fathers and Citizens who may be interested; 
 
I will be away from Friday Morning until Monday Morning on reenactment 
activities.  Sutton Mass. will host a large CW field event, which has 
been extensively mapped and reported by my engineering staff. 
 
Any emergency for which I may be needed can be noted URGENT / EMERG. and 
my wife will get the message to me. 
 
I hope that you will all enjoy your weekend as much as I will enjoy 
mine!!!!! 
 
Valete, Very Respectfully; 
Marcus Audens 
 
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!! 
 
 
http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] ATTN: EDICTUM CURATORIS ARANEAE: Designatio Marci Octavi Germanici ad Scribam | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Antonio Grilo" <amg@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:07:45 +0100 | 
 
 | 
-EDICTUM CURATORIS ARANEAE: 
>Designatio Marci Octavi Germanici ad Scribam 
 
I hereby officially appoint  Marcus Octavius Germanicus as my Scriba to help 
facilitate the work on the website of Nova Roma. Among his achievements 
Marcus Octavius Germanicus has already given an enormous contribution to 
Nova Roma by hosting the Web site in his own server. 
 
Antonius Gryllus Graecus 
Curator Araneae 
 
 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Edictum:  Mandatory Subscription to the Provincia Mailing  List | 
 
	| From: | 
	 Lucius Cornelius Sulla <alexious@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:13:33 -0700 | 
 
 | 
 
 
Marcus Octavius Germanicus wrote: 
 
> Salve Luci Corneli Proconsul, 
> 
> > > With the adoption of this Edictum, it is a requirement that all Nova 
> > > Roman Citizens who reside in the Province of California be members of 
> > > the CaliforniaNovaRoma email list located at www.egroups.com. 
> 
> It's certainly a good idea to promote communication within the province, 
> and to encourage subscription to the provincial mailing list.  But how 
> will this be enforced?  What would happen to someone who declines to 
> subscribe to the mailing list, or who unsubscribes after being manually 
> added by the moderators? 
> 
 
Well, the means of enforcement, I would use, would be to check the members 
subscribed to the list and if they arent there, add them...and place them in 
digest.  Basically it would be busy work.  If someone sends me an email, 
saying they do NOT want to be on the list, it would be up to the discretion 
of the Goveror, but I am sure we could add them to the list as NO 
MAIL/WEBMAIL and that would be sufficient. :) 
 
> 
> On a somewhat related topic, GreatLakesNovaRoma@-------- currently 
> has four members.  There haven't been any posts there for a week.  Our 
> province has no propraetor, and there have been no recent efforts to 
> organize any local events or gatherings.  Citizens of Lacus Magni, 
> please join the list. 
> 
 
Excellent suggestion. :) 
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 
Proconsul 
 
> 
> Vale, Octavius. 
> 
> -- 
> M. Octavius Germanicus 
> Curule Aedile, Nova Roma 
> Microsoft delenda est! 
> http://www.graveyards.com/ 
> 
>  
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Lararium | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Lauriat" <blauriat@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Aug 2000 18:36:28 -0400 | 
 
 | 
I was wondering if anyone could offer advice and/or suggestions on making 
and using a lararium in the modern world.  I am very curious as to what 
people do these days. Maybe someone could put out a little set of 
instructions, "The Nova Roman Guide to Modern-Day Lararia." 
 
-Lauria Maria 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] [Fwd: [CaliforniaNovaRoma] Edictum:  Mandatory Subscription to the  Provincia Mailing List] | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Aug 2000 23:29:42 +0100 | 
 
 | 
EX DOMO PROPRAETORIS BRITANNIAE PROVINCIAE 
 
Quiritibus plurimam salutem 
 
In response to Lucius Cornelius'  invitation for comment, I  think the idea 
of a provincial mailing list an excellent one :-). I have one little 
reservation about the proposed California list subscription being mandatory 
on resident cives, though. I think it  is preferable to try and make a 
mailing list 
welcoming and interesting, so people won't have to be forced to subscribe 
(even when it's for their own good). Besides, can one ever be sure that 
subscribers actually read 
the mails on a list? I suppose you could test everyone, once a month, to 
check... 
 
Valete bene 
 
N. Moravius Vado 
Propraetor Britanniae. 
 
> Ave Citizens of Nova Roma. 
> 
> I have published an Edictum as Proconsul of California to the 
> CaliforniaNovaRoma email list.  I have felt it would be wise to get 
comments 
> from the remainder of this great Micronation.  Please feel free to debate 
on 
> this topic, I would be very interested to hear comments.  Espically from 
> other governors. :) 
> 
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 
> Proconsul 
> 
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote: 
> 
> > The purpose of this edict is to increase communication between the 
> > citizens of the province, so that all may voice their opinions regarding 
> > the administration of the province, also it will make organizing 
> > provincial gatherings much easier, and it will give citizens the 
> > opportunity to meet others who live in the province. 
> > 
> > With the adoption of this Edictum, it is a requirement that all Nova 
> > Roman Citizens who reside in the Province of California be members of 
> > the CaliforniaNovaRoma email list located at www.egroups.com. 
> > 
> > Citizens can utilize the webmail format, however, it is recommended that 
> > we use at least the digest format.  I am hoping to organize several 
> > meetings in the province soon, so please subscribe to the list as soon 
> > as possible.  When I, as governor, sign people up to the list, I will 
> > add them as Digest format.  That mode can be changed as long as each 
> > citizen remains on the list. 
> > 
> > Also, with the passage of this edict, the governor of the province of 
> > California and Nevada will automatically be established as the moderator 
 
> > for 
> > the CaliforniaNovaRoma onelist upon their appointment. 
> > 
> > This Edicta will now be up for dicussion amongst us for 7 days. 
> > Beginning Aug 2nd.  Without any changes, it will become formalized on 
> > Aug. 9th.  I would personally like to thank my Legate Drusus Cornelius 
> > Claudius for his assistance in helping me draft this Edictum. 
> > 
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 
> > Proconsul 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 
> > CaliforniaNovaRoma-unsubscribe@-------- 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] [Fwd: [CaliforniaNovaRoma] Edictum:  Mandatory Subscription to the  Provincia Mailing List] | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:15:48 -0700 | 
 
 | 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@--------> 
To: <novaroma@--------> 
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 3:29 PM 
Subject: Re: [novaroma] [Fwd: [CaliforniaNovaRoma] Edictum: Mandatory 
Subscription to the Provincia Mailing List] 
 
 
> EX DOMO PROPRAETORIS BRITANNIAE PROVINCIAE 
> 
> Quiritibus plurimam salutem 
> 
> In response to Lucius Cornelius'  invitation for comment, I  think the 
idea 
> of a provincial mailing list an excellent one :-). I have one little 
> reservation about the proposed California list subscription being 
mandatory 
> on resident cives, though. I think it  is preferable to try and make a 
> mailing list 
> welcoming and interesting, so people won't have to be forced to subscribe 
> (even when it's for their own good). Besides, can one ever be sure that 
> subscribers actually read 
> the mails on a list? I suppose you could test everyone, once a month, to 
> check... 
 
Ave, 
 
I understand your concern.  However, one of the jobs we as Governors is to 
try to promote interaction and organize meetings between our resident (and 
visiting) citizens.  How do you propose a way of involving them.  I am 
trying to be flexible by not clogging up their mail boxes by allowing all 
types of methods of applicability to the list.  (Individual Email, Digest 
and WEBMail [No email]).  This way if you dont want to receive any, at your 
convinence you can go to egroups and view the email from Egroups.  Our jobs 
as Governors is to promote communication.  To that end, this is what I am 
trying to do, what do people do with the email they receive is their 
business.  If they read it or just delete it...that is their 
preference....even if they decide they dont want to get it and switch to 
webmail, at least they have the opportunity to voice their concerns at the 
local level, as well as be apart of any events or get togethers that might 
be planned throughout the provincia. 
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 
Proconsul 
 
 
> Valete bene 
> 
> N. Moravius Vado 
> Propraetor Britanniae. 
> 
> > Ave Citizens of Nova Roma. 
> > 
> > I have published an Edictum as Proconsul of California to the 
> > CaliforniaNovaRoma email list.  I have felt it would be wise to get 
> comments 
> > from the remainder of this great Micronation.  Please feel free to 
debate 
> on 
> > this topic, I would be very interested to hear comments.  Espically from 
> > other governors. :) 
> > 
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 
> > Proconsul 
> > 
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote: 
> > 
> > > The purpose of this edict is to increase communication between the 
> > > citizens of the province, so that all may voice their opinions 
regarding 
> > > the administration of the province, also it will make organizing 
> > > provincial gatherings much easier, and it will give citizens the 
> > > opportunity to meet others who live in the province. 
> > > 
> > > With the adoption of this Edictum, it is a requirement that all Nova 
> > > Roman Citizens who reside in the Province of California be members of 
> > > the CaliforniaNovaRoma email list located at www.egroups.com. 
> > > 
> > > Citizens can utilize the webmail format, however, it is recommended 
that 
> > > we use at least the digest format.  I am hoping to organize several 
> > > meetings in the province soon, so please subscribe to the list as soon 
> > > as possible.  When I, as governor, sign people up to the list, I will 
> > > add them as Digest format.  That mode can be changed as long as each 
> > > citizen remains on the list. 
> > > 
> > > Also, with the passage of this edict, the governor of the province of 
> > > California and Nevada will automatically be established as the 
moderator 
> 
> > > for 
> > > the CaliforniaNovaRoma onelist upon their appointment. 
> > > 
> > > This Edicta will now be up for dicussion amongst us for 7 days. 
> > > Beginning Aug 2nd.  Without any changes, it will become formalized on 
> > > Aug. 9th.  I would personally like to thank my Legate Drusus Cornelius 
> > > Claudius for his assistance in helping me draft this Edictum. 
> > > 
> > > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 
> > > Proconsul 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 
> > > CaliforniaNovaRoma-unsubscribe@-------- 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 [novaroma] Provincial e-mail lists | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "pjane@-------- " <pjane@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 03 Aug 2000 23:49:26 -0000 | 
 
 | 
Like others, I am a bit perplexed by the idea of making a provincial 
e- 
mail list mandatory.  
 
While many members of California Provincia may consider this a 
valuable  
way of keeping in touch, there may be some who prefer to participate 
in  
Nova Roma on a national level, or who are interested in remaining  
Citizens but do not have e-mail access, or who are unable to  
participate in provincial affairs for a time for some personal reason  
(illness, pregnancy, Army service, doctoral dissertation, general  
irritation after some flare-up of spleen on the list).  
 
In general, I favor laws which offer the maximum amount of personal  
freedom to Citizens. Plus, people are ornery: If you tell them they  
have to do something, they will usually respond with the moral  
equivalent of "Says who?" or "I don't want to." If I were a 
Californian  
receiving this edict, I might be tempted to find some way around it  
just to show I could. 
 
In Sulla's situation I would "strongly encourage" Citizens to join, 
but  
leave it at that. 
 
Patricia Cassia 
 
 
 
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	| Subject: | 
	 Re: [novaroma] Provincial e-mail lists | 
 
	| From: | 
	 "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@--------> | 
 
	| Date: | 
	 Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:55:44 -0700 | 
 
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <pjane@--------> 
To: <novaroma@--------> 
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 4:49 PM 
Subject: [novaroma] Provincial e-mail lists 
 
 
> Like others, I am a bit perplexed by the idea of making a provincial 
> e- 
> mail list mandatory. 
> 
> While many members of California Provincia may consider this a 
> valuable 
> way of keeping in touch, there may be some who prefer to participate 
> in 
> Nova Roma on a national level, or who are interested in remaining 
> Citizens but do not have e-mail access, or who are unable to 
> participate in provincial affairs for a time for some personal reason 
> (illness, pregnancy, Army service, doctoral dissertation, general 
> irritation after some flare-up of spleen on the list). 
 
Sulla:  If citizens dont have email, then they obviously cannot be signed up 
on the list. :)  Also, there is webmail (NO MAIL) if someone is going to be 
a way for a short or prolonged period of time.   :) 
 
> In general, I favor laws which offer the maximum amount of personal 
> freedom to Citizens. Plus, people are ornery: If you tell them they 
> have to do something, they will usually respond with the moral 
> equivalent of "Says who?" or "I don't want to." If I were a 
> Californian 
> receiving this edict, I might be tempted to find some way around it 
> just to show I could. 
 
Sulla:  I too, am a proponet of personal freedom, but as a magistrate I have 
goals to achieve too.  There is a balance, and I believe I have reached a 
suitable balance between our citizens and the government that is trying to 
promote more interaction.  By giving our citizens a means to choose the 
method to receive their emails. 
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 
Proconsul 
 
 
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