Subject: [novaroma] Re: I Mourn
From: "Lingo Man" <dbarr@-------->
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:21:27 -0700
To all who've responded to my grandmother's death with sympathy and prayers,
I thank you
publically.

What with one thing and another, it's been a very long bad week, and your
messages, on and off list, have made an enormous difference.

Thank you all, very much.

Doug



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Subject: [novaroma] [Fwd: [CaliforniaNovaRoma] Edictum: Mandatory Subscription to the Provincia Mailing List]
From: Lucius Cornelius Sulla <alexious@-------->
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:34:16 -0700
Ave Citizens of Nova Roma.

I have published an Edictum as Proconsul of California to the
CaliforniaNovaRoma email list. I have felt it would be wise to get comments
from the remainder of this great Micronation. Please feel free to debate on
this topic, I would be very interested to hear comments. Espically from
other governors. :)

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Proconsul

Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote:

> The purpose of this edict is to increase communication between the
> citizens of the province, so that all may voice their opinions regarding
> the administration of the province, also it will make organizing
> provincial gatherings much easier, and it will give citizens the
> opportunity to meet others who live in the province.
>
> With the adoption of this Edictum, it is a requirement that all Nova
> Roman Citizens who reside in the Province of California be members of
> the CaliforniaNovaRoma email list located at www.egroups.com.
>
> Citizens can utilize the webmail format, however, it is recommended that
> we use at least the digest format. I am hoping to organize several
> meetings in the province soon, so please subscribe to the list as soon
> as possible. When I, as governor, sign people up to the list, I will
> add them as Digest format. That mode can be changed as long as each
> citizen remains on the list.
>
> Also, with the passage of this edict, the governor of the province of
> California and Nevada will automatically be established as the moderator
> for
> the CaliforniaNovaRoma onelist upon their appointment.
>
> This Edicta will now be up for dicussion amongst us for 7 days.
> Beginning Aug 2nd. Without any changes, it will become formalized on
> Aug. 9th. I would personally like to thank my Legate Drusus Cornelius
> Claudius for his assistance in helping me draft this Edictum.
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> Proconsul
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> CaliforniaNovaRoma-unsubscribe@--------


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Subject: [novaroma] [Fwd: [CaliforniaNovaRoma] Legate Edictum]
From: Lucius Cornelius Sulla <alexious@-------->
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:45:48 -0700
Ave Citizens of Nova Roma

I have published an Edictum as Proconsul of California to the
CaliforniaNovaRoma email list. I have felt it would be wise to get comments
from the remainder of this great Micronation. Please feel free to debate on
this topic, I would be very interested to hear comments. Espically from
other governors. :)

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Proconsul

Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote:

> Legate Edict:
>
> The purpose of this edict is to set guidlines for the appointment of
> Legates
> in the Nova Roman province of California and Nevada. This edict will
> also
> set requirements limits on the appointment of Legates to prevent the
> practice
> of nepotism.
>
> Section 1: Privileges and responsibilities of Legates in California
>
> -- A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is given the
> authority
> to create, distribute, and enact means for the advertisement and
> recruitment
> of new citizens for Nova Roma (such as flyers) after gaining approval of
> the
> provincial governor under which he/she serves.
>
> -- A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is given the
> authority
> to speak for the governor should the governor loose access to his/her
> normal
> means of communication with Nova Roma.
>
> -- A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is given the
> authority
> to organize meetings and gatherings of citizens of the province.
>
> -- A Legate in the province of California and Nevada is responsible for
>
> whatever duties assigned to him/her by the governor within boundary of
> Nova
> Roman law.
>
> -- All Legates must maintain communication with the Governor. In the
> beginning an email every two (2) weeks giving the Proconsul an update
> should be sufficient.
>
> Section 2: Limits on the appointment of Legates in California
>
> -- The provincial governor of the province of California and Nevada may
>
> appoint as many as five Legates to serve the various purposes in which
> he/she
> needs assistance.
>
> -- The province of California and Nevada must have at least four (4)
> Legates
> for the following reasons:
> 1. A Legate must be appointed for the upkeep of the provincial
> website
> 2. A Legate must be appointed from Northern California
> 3. A Legate must be appointed from Southern California
> 4. A Legate must be appointed from Nevada
>
> -- No more than two (2) of the Legates appointed by the governor may be
>
> members of that governor's gens.
>
> -- The governor must, upon appointing a Legate, define publicly the
> duties
> which that Legate is responsible for. The governor may declare the
> purpose
> of the Legate simply as: "To assist me in the various duties of
> governance."
>
> This Edicta will now be up for dicussion amongst us for 7 days.
> Beginning Aug 2nd. Without any changes, it will become formalized on
> Aug. 9th. I would personally like to thank my Legate Drusus Cornelius
> Claudius for his assistance in helping me draft this Edictum.
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> Proconsul
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> CaliforniaNovaRoma-unsubscribe@--------


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Subject: [novaroma] California egroups.
From: DrususCornelius@--------
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 03:48:24 EDT
Salvete!

This message is regarding the California Provincial mailing list at
Egroups. The ProConsul of California L. Cornelius Sulla asks that all
citizens of the province please join the list immediately. Also, with the
publishing of the edict making membership on the list mandatory for all
citizens of the province, the ProConsul asks that the current moderator of
the list give him co-moderator status on the list so that he will be able to
add citizens onto the list.

For the Senate and the Roman People, Valete!
Drusus Cornelius Claudius
Legate California Province

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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Edictum: Mandatory Subscription to the Provincia Mailing List
From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@-------->
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:09:14 -0500 (CDT)

Salve Luci Corneli Proconsul,

> > With the adoption of this Edictum, it is a requirement that all Nova
> > Roman Citizens who reside in the Province of California be members of
> > the CaliforniaNovaRoma email list located at www.egroups.com.

It's certainly a good idea to promote communication within the province,
and to encourage subscription to the provincial mailing list. But how
will this be enforced? What would happen to someone who declines to
subscribe to the mailing list, or who unsubscribes after being manually
added by the moderators?

On a somewhat related topic, GreatLakesNovaRoma@-------- currently
has four members. There haven't been any posts there for a week. Our
province has no propraetor, and there have been no recent efforts to
organize any local events or gatherings. Citizens of Lacus Magni,
please join the list.

Vale, Octavius.

--
M. Octavius Germanicus
Curule Aedile, Nova Roma
Microsoft delenda est!
http://www.graveyards.com/


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Subject: [novaroma] Re: I Mourn
From: "pjane@-------- " <pjane@-------->
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:26:47 -0000
I am sorry for your loss, and offer my prayers for her swift passage
to a place of peace and rest. I pray also for peace and healing in
the hearts of those who mourn.

Patricia Cassia


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Subject: [novaroma] Speaking of provincial e-mail lists...
From: "pjane@-------- " <pjane@-------->
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:34:24 -0000
The Nova Britannia Provincia also has an e-mail list for its
Citizens, recently created to help us plan events and share
information.

It is purely voluntary, and also welcomes members from nearby
Provinciae (Media Atlantica? Canada Occidentalis?) who might be able
to participate in our activities.

To join, send a blank e-mail to novabritannia@-------- (that's one
T, two Ns in Britannia).

Patricia Cassia


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Subject: [novaroma] Roman Days West, Oct 6-9
From: " Sheridan" <legioix@-------->
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:46:54 -0000
Avete!

I've set up a discussion forum for Roman Days West.

To sign up or join go to:

http://www.egroups.com

Our egroups address is:

http://www.egroups.com/group/RomanDaysWest

I have found it best to take advantage of the feature that allows you
to go to egroups to read email instead of having it sent to your
computer.

Salvete,

Sean "Sheridan" Richards

Gaius Valerius Tacitus Hibernicus
centurio
Legio IX Hispana



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Subject: [novaroma] Absence Over the Weekend
From: jmath669642reng@--------
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:01:01 -0400 (EDT)
Salvete, Honored Fathers and Citizens who may be interested;

I will be away from Friday Morning until Monday Morning on reenactment
activities. Sutton Mass. will host a large CW field event, which has
been extensively mapped and reported by my engineering staff.

Any emergency for which I may be needed can be noted URGENT / EMERG. and
my wife will get the message to me.

I hope that you will all enjoy your weekend as much as I will enjoy
mine!!!!!

Valete, Very Respectfully;
Marcus Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary


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Subject: [novaroma] ATTN: EDICTUM CURATORIS ARANEAE: Designatio Marci Octavi Germanici ad Scribam
From: "Antonio Grilo" <amg@-------->
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:07:45 +0100
-EDICTUM CURATORIS ARANEAE:
>Designatio Marci Octavi Germanici ad Scribam

I hereby officially appoint Marcus Octavius Germanicus as my Scriba to help
facilitate the work on the website of Nova Roma. Among his achievements
Marcus Octavius Germanicus has already given an enormous contribution to
Nova Roma by hosting the Web site in his own server.

Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Curator Araneae





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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Edictum: Mandatory Subscription to the Provincia Mailing List
From: Lucius Cornelius Sulla <alexious@-------->
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:13:33 -0700


Marcus Octavius Germanicus wrote:

> Salve Luci Corneli Proconsul,
>
> > > With the adoption of this Edictum, it is a requirement that all Nova
> > > Roman Citizens who reside in the Province of California be members of
> > > the CaliforniaNovaRoma email list located at www.egroups.com.
>
> It's certainly a good idea to promote communication within the province,
> and to encourage subscription to the provincial mailing list. But how
> will this be enforced? What would happen to someone who declines to
> subscribe to the mailing list, or who unsubscribes after being manually
> added by the moderators?
>

Well, the means of enforcement, I would use, would be to check the members
subscribed to the list and if they arent there, add them...and place them in
digest. Basically it would be busy work. If someone sends me an email,
saying they do NOT want to be on the list, it would be up to the discretion
of the Goveror, but I am sure we could add them to the list as NO
MAIL/WEBMAIL and that would be sufficient. :)

>
> On a somewhat related topic, GreatLakesNovaRoma@-------- currently
> has four members. There haven't been any posts there for a week. Our
> province has no propraetor, and there have been no recent efforts to
> organize any local events or gatherings. Citizens of Lacus Magni,
> please join the list.
>

Excellent suggestion. :)

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Proconsul

>
> Vale, Octavius.
>
> --
> M. Octavius Germanicus
> Curule Aedile, Nova Roma
> Microsoft delenda est!
> http://www.graveyards.com/
>
>


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Subject: [novaroma] Lararium
From: "Lauriat" <blauriat@-------->
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 18:36:28 -0400
I was wondering if anyone could offer advice and/or suggestions on making
and using a lararium in the modern world. I am very curious as to what
people do these days. Maybe someone could put out a little set of
instructions, "The Nova Roman Guide to Modern-Day Lararia."

-Lauria Maria


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Subject: Re: [novaroma] [Fwd: [CaliforniaNovaRoma] Edictum: Mandatory Subscription to the Provincia Mailing List]
From: "Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@-------->
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 23:29:42 +0100
EX DOMO PROPRAETORIS BRITANNIAE PROVINCIAE

Quiritibus plurimam salutem

In response to Lucius Cornelius' invitation for comment, I think the idea
of a provincial mailing list an excellent one :-). I have one little
reservation about the proposed California list subscription being mandatory
on resident cives, though. I think it is preferable to try and make a
mailing list
welcoming and interesting, so people won't have to be forced to subscribe
(even when it's for their own good). Besides, can one ever be sure that
subscribers actually read
the mails on a list? I suppose you could test everyone, once a month, to
check...

Valete bene

N. Moravius Vado
Propraetor Britanniae.

> Ave Citizens of Nova Roma.
>
> I have published an Edictum as Proconsul of California to the
> CaliforniaNovaRoma email list. I have felt it would be wise to get
comments
> from the remainder of this great Micronation. Please feel free to debate
on
> this topic, I would be very interested to hear comments. Espically from
> other governors. :)
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> Proconsul
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote:
>
> > The purpose of this edict is to increase communication between the
> > citizens of the province, so that all may voice their opinions regarding
> > the administration of the province, also it will make organizing
> > provincial gatherings much easier, and it will give citizens the
> > opportunity to meet others who live in the province.
> >
> > With the adoption of this Edictum, it is a requirement that all Nova
> > Roman Citizens who reside in the Province of California be members of
> > the CaliforniaNovaRoma email list located at www.egroups.com.
> >
> > Citizens can utilize the webmail format, however, it is recommended that
> > we use at least the digest format. I am hoping to organize several
> > meetings in the province soon, so please subscribe to the list as soon
> > as possible. When I, as governor, sign people up to the list, I will
> > add them as Digest format. That mode can be changed as long as each
> > citizen remains on the list.
> >
> > Also, with the passage of this edict, the governor of the province of
> > California and Nevada will automatically be established as the moderator

> > for
> > the CaliforniaNovaRoma onelist upon their appointment.
> >
> > This Edicta will now be up for dicussion amongst us for 7 days.
> > Beginning Aug 2nd. Without any changes, it will become formalized on
> > Aug. 9th. I would personally like to thank my Legate Drusus Cornelius
> > Claudius for his assistance in helping me draft this Edictum.
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> > Proconsul
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > CaliforniaNovaRoma-unsubscribe@--------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Subject: Re: [novaroma] [Fwd: [CaliforniaNovaRoma] Edictum: Mandatory Subscription to the Provincia Mailing List]
From: "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@-------->
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:15:48 -0700

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] [Fwd: [CaliforniaNovaRoma] Edictum: Mandatory
Subscription to the Provincia Mailing List]


> EX DOMO PROPRAETORIS BRITANNIAE PROVINCIAE
>
> Quiritibus plurimam salutem
>
> In response to Lucius Cornelius' invitation for comment, I think the
idea
> of a provincial mailing list an excellent one :-). I have one little
> reservation about the proposed California list subscription being
mandatory
> on resident cives, though. I think it is preferable to try and make a
> mailing list
> welcoming and interesting, so people won't have to be forced to subscribe
> (even when it's for their own good). Besides, can one ever be sure that
> subscribers actually read
> the mails on a list? I suppose you could test everyone, once a month, to
> check...

Ave,

I understand your concern. However, one of the jobs we as Governors is to
try to promote interaction and organize meetings between our resident (and
visiting) citizens. How do you propose a way of involving them. I am
trying to be flexible by not clogging up their mail boxes by allowing all
types of methods of applicability to the list. (Individual Email, Digest
and WEBMail [No email]). This way if you dont want to receive any, at your
convinence you can go to egroups and view the email from Egroups. Our jobs
as Governors is to promote communication. To that end, this is what I am
trying to do, what do people do with the email they receive is their
business. If they read it or just delete it...that is their
preference....even if they decide they dont want to get it and switch to
webmail, at least they have the opportunity to voice their concerns at the
local level, as well as be apart of any events or get togethers that might
be planned throughout the provincia.

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Proconsul


> Valete bene
>
> N. Moravius Vado
> Propraetor Britanniae.
>
> > Ave Citizens of Nova Roma.
> >
> > I have published an Edictum as Proconsul of California to the
> > CaliforniaNovaRoma email list. I have felt it would be wise to get
> comments
> > from the remainder of this great Micronation. Please feel free to
debate
> on
> > this topic, I would be very interested to hear comments. Espically from
> > other governors. :)
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> > Proconsul
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla wrote:
> >
> > > The purpose of this edict is to increase communication between the
> > > citizens of the province, so that all may voice their opinions
regarding
> > > the administration of the province, also it will make organizing
> > > provincial gatherings much easier, and it will give citizens the
> > > opportunity to meet others who live in the province.
> > >
> > > With the adoption of this Edictum, it is a requirement that all Nova
> > > Roman Citizens who reside in the Province of California be members of
> > > the CaliforniaNovaRoma email list located at www.egroups.com.
> > >
> > > Citizens can utilize the webmail format, however, it is recommended
that
> > > we use at least the digest format. I am hoping to organize several
> > > meetings in the province soon, so please subscribe to the list as soon
> > > as possible. When I, as governor, sign people up to the list, I will
> > > add them as Digest format. That mode can be changed as long as each
> > > citizen remains on the list.
> > >
> > > Also, with the passage of this edict, the governor of the province of
> > > California and Nevada will automatically be established as the
moderator
>
> > > for
> > > the CaliforniaNovaRoma onelist upon their appointment.
> > >
> > > This Edicta will now be up for dicussion amongst us for 7 days.
> > > Beginning Aug 2nd. Without any changes, it will become formalized on
> > > Aug. 9th. I would personally like to thank my Legate Drusus Cornelius
> > > Claudius for his assistance in helping me draft this Edictum.
> > >
> > > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> > > Proconsul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > CaliforniaNovaRoma-unsubscribe@--------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Subject: [novaroma] Provincial e-mail lists
From: "pjane@-------- " <pjane@-------->
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 23:49:26 -0000
Like others, I am a bit perplexed by the idea of making a provincial
e-
mail list mandatory.

While many members of California Provincia may consider this a
valuable
way of keeping in touch, there may be some who prefer to participate
in
Nova Roma on a national level, or who are interested in remaining
Citizens but do not have e-mail access, or who are unable to
participate in provincial affairs for a time for some personal reason
(illness, pregnancy, Army service, doctoral dissertation, general
irritation after some flare-up of spleen on the list).

In general, I favor laws which offer the maximum amount of personal
freedom to Citizens. Plus, people are ornery: If you tell them they
have to do something, they will usually respond with the moral
equivalent of "Says who?" or "I don't want to." If I were a
Californian
receiving this edict, I might be tempted to find some way around it
just to show I could.

In Sulla's situation I would "strongly encourage" Citizens to join,
but
leave it at that.

Patricia Cassia



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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Provincial e-mail lists
From: "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@-------->
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:55:44 -0700

----- Original Message -----
From: <pjane@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 4:49 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Provincial e-mail lists


> Like others, I am a bit perplexed by the idea of making a provincial
> e-
> mail list mandatory.
>
> While many members of California Provincia may consider this a
> valuable
> way of keeping in touch, there may be some who prefer to participate
> in
> Nova Roma on a national level, or who are interested in remaining
> Citizens but do not have e-mail access, or who are unable to
> participate in provincial affairs for a time for some personal reason
> (illness, pregnancy, Army service, doctoral dissertation, general
> irritation after some flare-up of spleen on the list).

Sulla: If citizens dont have email, then they obviously cannot be signed up
on the list. :) Also, there is webmail (NO MAIL) if someone is going to be
a way for a short or prolonged period of time. :)

> In general, I favor laws which offer the maximum amount of personal
> freedom to Citizens. Plus, people are ornery: If you tell them they
> have to do something, they will usually respond with the moral
> equivalent of "Says who?" or "I don't want to." If I were a
> Californian
> receiving this edict, I might be tempted to find some way around it
> just to show I could.

Sulla: I too, am a proponet of personal freedom, but as a magistrate I have
goals to achieve too. There is a balance, and I believe I have reached a
suitable balance between our citizens and the government that is trying to
promote more interaction. By giving our citizens a means to choose the
method to receive their emails.

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Proconsul


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